This Pharoah looks straight up somali

[MaliPrince]

Afrocentrics and eurocentrics put me to sleep, but now we have somalicentrics. The ancient egyptians were egyptian, you know... the kind of people found in egypt today. Stop claiming other people's heritage you sad bastards.

I'm guessing you think the ancient americans are the same kind of people found in America today?

even the Arabs know they have nothing to do with Ancient egpyt.

[GalliumerianSlayer]

Stop claiming other people you sad bastards 'We're Arabs' 'We're Egyptians' no-one cares, to them you're just simply an abeed.
Where's Dootoore? Expecting to see his images of fellow Sub-Saharan Africans

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Afrocentrics and eurocentrics put me to sleep, but now we have somalicentrics. The ancient egyptians were egyptian, you know... the kind of people found in egypt today. Stop claiming other people's heritage you sad bastards.

I'm guessing you think the ancient americans are the same kind of people found in America today?

even the Arabs know they have nothing to do with Ancient egpyt.

Who said anything about arabs? The genetic impact of arabs on the egyptian population is quite small. Majority of egyptians today are the same people who built the pyramids. Why are we even debating this anyway, neither of us is egyptian?

[Hodan94]

^^exactly, Somalis were useless from day 1.
now don't act like afro American and claim something that you're not unless u provide evidence.....and no cave drawings is not evidence.

[MaliPrince]

^^^lol he's not somali

why is he here then?

[MaliPrince]

Afrocentrics and eurocentrics put me to sleep, but now we have somalicentrics. The ancient egyptians were egyptian, you know... the kind of people found in egypt today. Stop claiming other people's heritage you sad bastards.

I'm guessing you think the ancient americans are the same kind of people found in America today?

even the Arabs know they have nothing to do with Ancient egpyt.

Who said anything about arabs? The genetic impact of arabs on the egyptian population is quite small. Majority of egyptians today are the same people who built the pyramids. Why are we even debating this anyway, neither of us is egyptian?

the people pictured in the pyramids look nothing like modern egyptians. and by modern egyptians I'm talking poeple like this.

they look like us and other east africans. just tell me the last time you saw modern egyptians with afros and braids.

[Bilis]

what are u talkin about? the afro is a natural hairstyle?

It's quite simply, really.

The man above is Rahanweyn/Garre. He is wearing a traditional hairstyle that they are known for called guud weyne or bar dheere, which they spend a long time dressing up. This style is made using ghee (clarified butter, not chemicals), and often charcoal as well.

The man probably has naturally jareer hair, so it wouldn't take much to get his hair to grow like that. Jileec Somalis, on the other hand, couldn't naturally grow their hair like that if they tried. That's the point.

if most Somalis don't cut their hair, it becomes a big bushy afro like that.

Actually, Somalis differ widely in both hair texture and features. So do Egyptians (many don't look like Morsi; especially in the south).

The two men below, for example, are both Hawiye yet they don't particularly share a close resemblance.

and I have pictures of my mother and father as kids (both Dhulbahante from the north) and they all had big bushy fros like this.

You didn't need to tell me you had jareer hair sxb. I already figured that out from your posts. Specifically, from what you consider an average phenotype.

You can't relate to what the OP is saying because you personally don't share the Pharaoh's phenotype nor apparently does anyone else in your family. There's nothing in itself wrong with this. However, try and understand that many Somalis do share the Pharaoh's phenotype, and thus they will feel a much closer kinship with him and other Ancient Egyptians than with the folks you posted.

That's basically why you are experiencing resistance to your attempt to connect Somalis with Oromos. If you had instead posted Oromos like the ones below, many of the same folks who had initially rejected that association would've responded more favorably to your suggestion because these other Oromos possess phenotypes that they can more readily relate to on a personal, familial level:

[Bilis]

The ancient egyptians were egyptian, you know... the kind of people found in egypt today.

Yes. The modern Egyptians are obviously the direct descendants of the ancient Egyptians. It's surreal to even have to assert this.

Bear in mind, though, that the ancient Egyptians were an Afro-Asiatic/Hamito-Semitic people. They thus had ties with other ancient Afro-Asiatic/Hamito-Semitic populations. That includes ancestral Somalis, Afar, Amhara, Oromo, Tigray, Tigre, Beja, Berbers, Khaleeji, etc.:

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

what are u talkin about? the afro is a natural hairstyle?

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that woman

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

I THINK WE NEED YALAXOOW TO SHOW US HOW SOMALIS LOOK LIKE IN REAL LIFE KKKKKKKK

DITTOORE, EDUCATE THESE IGNORANT SOMALIS

[jalaaludin5]

A typical hwiye look!


A typical harti look!


A typical isaq look!

[Cherine]

Good grief, this thread is full of people riddled with inferiority complexes. We have become exactly like the confused African Americans.

Some of the them hurdada ay ka so baraarugan only when such topics are discussed = Bilis

Some of them (MaliPrince) are claiming that the drawings of the dark skinned people found in the temples is that of Somalis....was he living in a cave all his life and never heard of the existence of Nubians who live in Southern Egypt & Northern Sudan. I'm not joking, they are real breathing people..that you can touch. No need to go all the way to Somalia to connect the dots, they are there to this day in their ancestral land!

And then there's Xplaya who's alleging that ALL the phraohs were black. ...one look at his avatar reveals yet another person with deep seated issues.(it's even more sad considering he's well into his 50s). If he's willing to erase Siddharta Buddha's Indian features and replace them with African ones (presumably so he can be more palatable to him) why should i be surprised if he employs similar tactics when discussing the ancient kings of the north African country of Egypt.

[Bilis]

@ jalaaludin5

Your Hawiye link doesn't work. Your so-called "Harti" man also isn't Harti at all, but instead some dude you took off a blog post titled "Ugly Somalis".

Apparently, you were offended by the home truths above. That's the only logical explanation for why you felt the need to specifically look for "ugly Somalis", and then try and pass them off here as Harti.

Thing is, I wasn't even trying to offend anyone. Just explaining the reasoning behind the different reactions to the OP.

[jalaaludin5]

what the hell are you on about?

[Grant]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-Saharan_Africa

"Sub-Saharan Africa is, geographically, the area of the continent of Africa that lies south of the Sahara Desert. Politically, it consists of all African countries that are fully or partially located south of the Sahara (excluding Sudan).[2] It contrasts with North Africa, which is considered a part of the Arab world. Somalia, Djibouti, Comoros and Mauritania are geographically part of Sub-Saharan Africa, but also part of the Arab world.[3][4]"

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogrou ... ous_people

These folks are all E1b1b:

"The Harvey Y-DNA Genetic Project managed to retrace the ancestry and identify the Y-chromosomal haplogroup of William Harvey (1578 -1657), the first person to describe completely and in detail the systemic circulation and properties of blood being pumped to the body by the heart.

Gérard Lucotte et al. (2012) recovered the DNA of Napoleon Bonaparte from beard hair follicules and compared his Y-DNA to that of one of his present-day descendants, Charles Napoléon. They established that both men belonged to haplogroup E-M34, a subclade which is thought to have reached Mediterranean Europe from the Levant during the Neolithic period. Napoleon I had previously been identified by Lucotte's team as a member of mtDNA haplogroup H.

The Wright Brothers, the inventors of the world's first successful airplane, belonged to haplogroup E-V13. They were supposedly descended from Robert Wright of Brook Hall, Essex, England, which allowed the Wright Surname DNA Project to isolate their paternal lineage.

The acclaimed theoretical physicist Albert Einstein is presumed to have belonged to Y-haplogroup E-Z830 based on the results from a patrilineal descendant of Naphtali Hirsch Einstein, Albert Einstein's great-grand-father. Approximately 20% of Ashkenazi Jews belong to haplogroup E1b1b.

Ronny Decorte, a geneticist from the Catholic University of Leuven in Belgium, tested relatives of Adolf Hitler and determined that the Fürher belonged to haplogroup E1b1b. Ironically this haplogroup thought to be at the origin of Afro-Asiatic languages, which includes the Semitic languages and peoples that Hitler despised so much.

Lyndon B. Johnson (1908-1973), the 36th President of the United States, was identified as a member of haplogroup E1b1b1 through the Johnson/Johnston/Johnstone DNA Surname Project."

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showth ... 89509d5820

"The fact that East Africans are caucasoid and carry some European mt-dna lineages
It would explain why m-81 and m-78 are so close (coastal North Africa and the Balkans)
Why Berber mt-dna is basically European (of course they developed they're own subclades) and why they have a weird maternal connection to the Saamis of Northern Europe who are indigenous to Sweden, Norway and Finland
It would explain why the skin tone of white Berbers is on par with Southern to Northern Europeans
The fact that East Africans live right under a very hot equator could explain why they developed black skin so quickly.

Why m-81 is found every where in Europe in low frequencies, and m-78 as well but not as low as m-81 actually a common one in Europe and why the East African subclade is also present in Europe but in very small %.
It would explain why East Africans have recessive genes, if an Ethiopian had a baby with an Anglo Saxon British man the baby will more likely look 100% white which sort of supports the idea they evolved black skin quite quickly under the equator Scientists usually believe that it originated in East africa bacause e1b1b peaks amongst Somali populations (88%) , but that's simply not true, it peaks amongst Riffian Berbers at an average of 95%! And even if it did peak in Somalia it doesn't mean e1b1b originated there as it's a subclade of a different branch of e1b1b and evidence supports it's core origin to be Eurasian,"

The concept of "Sub-Saharan Africa" has been made to include Ethiopia and Somalia, which is really strange because the UN excludes Sudan from this designation, and E1b1b covers Morocco through the Horn, plus the Mediterranean basin, with an 85% peak concentration in Somalia, a 65% peak in Morocco and a 95% concentration among the Riffian Berbers. In my opinion the concept of "North Africa" should include the Horn. I note that the early cultural complexes in northern Somalia link to Ethiopia and the Arabian peninsula, and that the affinities of the Somali language are to the north and west and not to the the south. In this case the term "Sub-Saharan" is a red herring.