Talk of Mareexaan Might is greatly exaggerated

[MJ-Pride]

Horta Nimanyahow Reer Sade ah Iga Raali ahaada inaan Aqalkiina Gardaro La soo galo, Laakin waxaan rabaa inaan ogaada, Why are you guys making Sade like they are the greatest thing since sliced bread? I'll give you that they are extremely warriors and that they are probably one of the fieriest fighters among Somali clans. Laakin, whats up with the exaggeration? I want to know that, if Sade was indeed as strong as advertised, Why it took mere 300 Ogaden and Ceyr to capture Kismaayo? I remeber you guys going on about that you guys had enough weapons to fight Ethiopia for Thirty Days, Yet you guys run for you lifes when Indhacade attacked Kismaayo. I need an answer to this Question, and I dont' want the ' It was Somalis vs Sade bullshit... Haye Lets hear it guys

[Luq_Ganane]

Bulogudud should be liberated by the time I wake up tomorrow. FREE BULOGUDUD!

[DawladSade]

The Maxaakiim had as much Mareexaans as our side. Religion is the one thing that makes us lose because it is the one thing that makes us divide greatly. Are you forgetting GEDO was the home of Al Itixaad and we had the longest war between our selves as wadaado or supporters of the clan?

Mareexaan has NEVER lost a clan war.

[MJ-Pride]

Dowladsade,
Relgion is one thing that makes you guys lose? Thats funny Wallahi. I am surprised at the ease that ICU took Kismaayo, no resistant. The so called 'SADE militia ' disappeared and run back to GEDO. If SADE was soo powerfull, surely you would have brushed off ICU challenge? Its not like the ICU came with guns blazing!. Come on!

[Warsame101]

[quote="MJ-Pride"]Dowladsade,
Relgion is one thing that makes you guys lose? Thats funny Wallahi. I am surprised at the ease that ICU took Kismaayo, no resistant. The so called 'SADE militia ' disappeared and run back to GEDO. If SADE was soo powerfull, surely you would have brushed off ICU challenge? Its not like the ICU came with guns blazing!. Come on![/quote]

Stop being an idiot, only a fool would have stayed. Barre Hiiraale is an educated militarist, who has evaluated the circumstances.

The circumstances were as follow:

Firstly, Mareexaan were divided on the issue of ICU. The ICU militia who were approaching Kismaayo at that particular time consisted of majority Mareexaan, others and the foreigners. The ICU never attacked a certain city or village without using mis-guided natives as soldiers.

Secondly, the Mareexaan elders requested Barre Hiiraale to abandon the city peacefully so as to not shed any Mareexaan blood.


Besides, you guys should be the last ones talking about might, considering that it took Ethiopians battalions coupled with Qeybdiid's militia and Puntland militia to combat the ICU in Bandiiradley.

[MJ-Pride]

Are you telling me that the ICU tricked you guys like the OGADENS? Ok, Now, we getting somewere. Do you have a prove that the majority of soilders that took Kismaayo were Mareexaan? If they were Mareexaan, Why Hiiraale run away from his own people? You should use common sense. Lets face it, the majority of soilders that took Kismaayo were Ceyr and Ogaden. Also you should not open your mouth about Bandiiredly, cuz the ICU couldnt dare to attack Mudug, because we stated that any attack from ICU would be met with stiff resistence. You should also consider that a lot of Puntlanders were Pro ICU, but the CADE adminstration sent all Puntland army to Bandiiredly to confront the advancing ICU membersHow it feels to be the only Clan that did not resist the ICU. EVen the Moqdisho wrlords put a fight and they lost, but you guys did not even fire a single bullet. What a shame!

[Warsame101]

[quote="MJ-Pride"]Are you telling me that the ICU tricked you guys like the OGADENS? [/quote]

The majority of Daarood in the ICU were Ogaadeen and Mareexaan and due their love for the Diin, they followed the ICU.

[quote]Ok, Now, we getting somewere. Do you have a prove that the majority of soilders that took Kismaayo were Mareexaan? If they were Mareexaan, [/quote]

It was a common tactic for the ICU to use the natives as soldiers so as to win the approval of the city's inhabitants. They do not use their own soldiers, or else Barre would not have called for a strategic retreat. This is why the Mareexaan elders requested that he should not shed the blood of the Mareexaans.

[quote]Why Hiiraale run away from his own people? You should use common sense. Lets face it, the majority of soilders that took Kismaayo were Ceyr and Ogaden. [/quote]
Use your logic, I have just answered it in the aforementioned paragraph. The majority were not Cayr, nor Ogaadeen or else it would like looked a clan-militia. This is why the elders SPECIFICALLY requested not to shed any Mareexaan blood. This is why the ICU also used Puntland natives as soldiers for the fight in Bandiradley.

In addition, hundreds of foreign fighters accompanied them.

[quote]Also you should not open your mouth about Bandiiredly, cuz the ICU couldnt dare to attack Mudug, because we stated that any attack from ICU would be met with stiff resistence. You should also consider that a lot of Puntlanders were Pro ICU, but the CADE adminstration sent all Puntland army to Bandiiredly to confront the advancing ICU membersHow it feels to be the only Clan that did not resist the ICU. [/quote]

Kiddo, do not embarass yourself. The minute Cadde Muuse heard that ICU was approaching Mudug, he speed dialed Zenawi and ordered batallions of Ethiopian troops.

Moreover, the fight in Bandiradley was Puntland soldiers, Qabydiid's militia and Ethiopian troops against the ICU. A coaliation of three groups against the ICU.

Do not believe me? This is from your own website:

"Saakay ayuu dagaal aad u culus oo u dhexeeya ciidammada Dowlad Goboleedka Puntland, Malleeshiyooyinka Cabdi Qaybiid iyo ciidammo Ethiopian iyo kuwa Maxkamadaha Midoobay ayaa saakay ka dillaacay deegaanka Bandiiradley, waxaana la sheegay inay si toos ah ula wareegeen."
http://www.puntlandpost.com/newspage.php?articleid=7062

[quote]EVen the Moqdisho wrlords put a fight and they lost, but you guys did not even fire a single bullet. What a shame![/quote]

Aren't you forgetting that Barre Hiiraale was the only who assembled a Mareexaan exclusive army and faced a Mareexaans, Ogaadeen and foreign fighters (Oromo, Carabs, Eritreans) group in Bu'aale.

[MJ-Pride]

I see that you have no Prove that the Soilders that took Kismaayo were Mareexaan. I am sure if you had proof, yo'd have slammed it on my face, but i see that you are left wanting. The ICU were ceyr and Al-Shabaab and if there were Mareexaan in them, they were few wadaads,so You should let this slide. And why are you implying that the ICU were only one Qabiil?. Like you said, they were a collation of all qabiils, foreign fighters and everybody. So its only Logic to use whatever necessary to break their advancement. Also Qaybdiid did not have a lot of soilders. Remember he was kicked from Moqdisho and he came to Galkayo with only about 100 soilders.

Warsame, You are in a mire, and I dont' know how you gona get out of it. I am still waiting why mareexaan didnt resist the ICU?

[Warsame101]

[quote="MJ-Pride"]I see that you have no Prove that the Soilders that took Kismaayo were Mareexaan. I am sure if you had proof, yo'd have slammed it on my face, but i see that you are left wanting. The ICU were ceyr and Al-Shabaab and if there were Mareexaan in them they were few wadaads,so You should let this slide. And why are you implying that the ICU were only one Qabiil?. Like you said, they were a collation of all qabiils, foreign fighters and everybody. So its only Logic to use whatever necessary to break their advancement. Also Qaybdiid did not have a lot of soilders. Remember he was kicked from Moqdisho and he came to Galkayo with only about 100 soilders.

Warsame, You are in a mire, and I dont' know how you gona get out of it. I am still waiting why did mareexaan resist the ICU?[/quote]

You can dodge the evidence and throw numbers and claims at me but it all comes down to logical thinking. You will not find a news report stating that the majority of the ICU's forces consisted of Mareexaan or Ogaadeen or Habar Gidir. Be sensibile.

I have just listed their strategical tactics and the advices of the Kismaayo elders as my source.

The ICU army that Qaybdiid's, Puntland's , and Ethiopia's soldiers were fighting against consisted of Puntland natives.

This is public knowledge, and that is that they use mainly natives in their armies so as to win the people's respect.

Anyways, you have not answered my previous points. Did he or did Cadde Muuse not use Ethiopians as support the minute the ICU arrived in Mudug?

Furthermore, do not throw me some random figure of "100 soldiers". IF you are going to make a claim, at least have the deceny to back it up.

The bottomline remains, Mareexaan fought against these coalition in Bu'aale whilst Puntland had to rely on Qaybdiid's and Ethiopian support.

[MJ-Pride]

If you had the chance to use foreign power,You'd have used anything to held off the ICU; even the Jewish. Now that rings a bell right ? Hiiraale said that, and We all know How Mareexaans love Hiiraale. So don't not come up with the 'Puntland used Ethiopia' BS. Yes, we used them, Just like the ICU used foreign fighters. They even had Ellay and Jareer ICUs FFS.The reality is that If you were in PUNTLANDS position, you would have used anything, but you were powerless to protect yourself by any means for whats is supposedly your city. I'll give this a break, seeing that you are loosing the battle. You can't verify anything to back your claim.

[Warsame101]

[quote="MJ-Pride"]If you had the chance to use foreign power,You'd have used anything to held off the ICU; even the Jewish. Now that rings a bell right ? Hiiraale said that, and We all know How Mareexaans love Hiiraale. So don't not come up with the 'Puntland used Ethiopia' BS. Yes, we used them, Just like the ICU used foreign fighters. They even had Ellay and Jareer ICUs FFS.The reality is that If you were in PUNTLANDS position, you would have used anything, but you were powerless to protect yourself by any means for whats is supposedly your city. I'll give this a break, seeing that you are loosing the battle. You can't verify anything to back your claim.[/quote]



Sxb, I am not one of these kids that you communicate on a daily basis. Do not come with bullsh*t.

You side-stepped the discussion and geared it towards a different issue.

The issue was that Mareexaan at least attacked with an exclusive Mareexaan army against these coaliation of ICU Army whilst Puntland speed-dialed Zenawi after catching a mere glimpse of the ICU army and had to use Qaybdiid's Habar Gidir muscle. There is a major difference.

[Gedo_Boy]

Warsame101,
ina adeer ha u bixin.........Harti will capture Kismayo when SADE catpures Bossasso.

MJ-Pride,

Bossasso hadee kuugu filnaanin, walee Kismayo inaad ku darsaneenin

[MJ-Pride]

That is what you call tactical nous.You see, Like I told you, the ICU consisted every Qabiil and even foreign fighters, so whats stopping Puntland from using anything it can get? Also LMAO at HG muscle. Don't you know that The ICU were habar gidir? It was only Qaybdiid and few of his militia Warsame. Even the weapons they had, had the PUNTLAND army logo on it. Having said that, the bottom line is, you failed by defend your city, while we defended our city bravely, regardless how we accomplished it. I see you are giving all credit to HG and Ethiopia, nice try kid

[Warsame101]

GB,

MPride, adeer, the fault lies with me for opening a discussion with you.

According to my book, you have long lost your credibility when you claimed that there are dozen Hartis left in Buulo-Gaduud whilst you claimed a few months back that several "thousands" Harti soldiers were stationed in Kismaayo.

[MJ-Pride]

Warsame,
In other words, I have Karbaashed UGAASKA beesha SADE in Somalinet, and forced him to resort into name calling Also, The fighting is happening as we speak, So I will get to you when this settles. You will be history if you lose this battle. Whats your excuse will be if you lose? I know you will say its SomaliWeyn vs Beesha SADE