is this jareer weyne city of nairobi or its new york

[DR-YALAXOOW]

http://www.kenyanview.com/IMG_0865_Nairobi_skyline.jpg
check it out the picture. maxay ku dhacdey dadka soomalida u heeystaan inay ka caqli baddan yihiin JAREER people inay dhistaan magaaladaas quruxda baddan.


dhinaca kale CHICKEN LEGS laangaaab animals who call themselfs SOOMALIS. hal magaalo taas oo kale maxay u lahaan waayeen waxuushta .

marka yaa caqli xun

skinnies and jareer weyne:

offcourse LAANGAABS SOMALIS dadka dunida ugu liita

[Voltage]

Caku aqli hawiye, ma Kenyaati baa dhista sarahaas mise niman British ah

[DR-YALAXOOW]

fiiri xaasidka qaxootiga ah. war sarahaas 95% waxaa la dhisey after KENYA xuriyada qaadatey.
1960 nairobi waxaa ka weeynaa KISMAAYO.


LACAGTA iyo dhididka umadda jareer weyne ee KEENYA ayaa dhisatey.british in your skinny asss. keenyaati ayaa dhistey magaaladaas quruxda baddan.

halka adiga GAALKACYO aad buush yaroo LAMAYEEERI KU HEERAARSAN AAD KU HOYITID .banaankana aad ku xaartid

[Alchemist]

[quote="DR-YALAXOOW"]fiiri xaasidka qaxootiga ah. war sarahaas 95% waxaa la dhisey after KENYA xuriyada qaadatey.
1960 nairobi waxaa ka weeynaa KISMAAYO.


LACAGTA iyo dhididka umadda jareer weyne ee KEENYA ayaa dhisatey.

halka adiga GAALKACYO aad buush yaroo LAMAYEEERI KU HEERAARSAN AAD KU HOYITID .banaankana aad ku xaartid[/quote]

looooooooooooooooooool...

Voltage stop hating you faggot, those people did good for themselves..

[DR-YALAXOOW]

http://www.kenyanview.com/IMG_0865_Nairobi_skyline.jpg

[xaseey]

runtii nairobi waa meel aad u quruxbadan specially west of nairobi ,,i've ben there last year,,dadka reer kenyana way naga ilbaxsanyihiin hadii runta laysugu sheego,,xaasidnimadana ma fiicno qof meesha uu kaaga horeyo waa in aad u qirtaa

[Voltage]

[quote="DR-YALAXOOW"]fiiri xaasidka qaxootiga ah. war sarahaas 95% waxaa la dhisey after KENYA xuriyada qaadatey.
1960 nairobi waxaa ka weeynaa KISMAAYO.


LACAGTA iyo dhididka umadda jareer weyne ee KEENYA ayaa dhisatey.british in your skinny asss. keenyaati ayaa dhistey magaaladaas quruxda baddan.

halka adiga GAALKACYO aad buush yaroo LAMAYEEERI KU HEERAARSAN AAD KU HOYITID .banaankana aad ku xaartid[/quote]


Dr Yalaxoow wakhitga waa 2007, qaxooti reerka lagu caayo waanu naqaan lakin anagu waan ka xishoonayna madama hada ay dhibaato haysato


As for dadka dhistay Kenya...miyaadan kala aqoon "Colonialism" iyo "neo-Colonialism"...inuu Kenya gumaysi cad ku jiro maaha ee COLONISLAMIS, waa Kenya iyo dalalka British gumaystey ee Southern Africa waligood waxay ku jireen "NEO-COLONIALISM". Taas macnaheedu waxaa weeye investmentka Britiain buu ka imaada, businessyada waxaa kor ka leh multi nationals from U.K, etc.

Neo-colonialism so baar markaas baa ogaan Kenyaatiga halkaas inayan waxba dhisan


alchemist, I have no time for nacnac.

[Somaliweyn]

Somalia was also under neo-colonialism. Our economy was dependent on lifestock export to Arabian countries, and Banana export. Two economies that were established during the colonial era: lifestock from Somalia (Northern Somalia through Berbera) to Arabian peninsula under the British, and Banana and other agricultural products from Italian Somaliland into Italy.

Our economy didn't change, the buildings the Italians built were still 60% of the centre of Mogadishu and we even had to accept the SAPs enforced upon us by IMF and World Bank after 1980s.


Now tell me again, why Kenya is under neo-colonialism and Somalia not?

Yes I agree with you that those buildings are the properties of Western entreprises, but they contribute to the economy of Kenya, which makes them the largest economy in East Africa.

It is time we Somalis look at things objectively instead of feeling arrogant and mitigating every development done by other African countries.


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Having said that, I do believe in that we can do much better then those Kenyans, Somalis are entrepeneurial active, exploring and always striving for the best. When those things are combined we can do economically much better then any East African country. Insha allah, we will built our economy patiently from scratch again.

[Voltage]

Somaliweyn I can see a whole redundant argument ensuing in which the end result will be you running hightail and I thinking of how much time I have lost so I will sum it this way:


Somalia broke ALL relations with Britain in 1965, so that destroys any argument you have for neo-colonialism.

Also your understanding of neo-colonialism is not even rudimentary at best. It is not an aspect of neo-colonialism that our economy has always been dependent on Livestok export, no that just means Somalia was a developing country. It would have been neo-colonialism if the British STILL controlled the Livestock trade, if their middle man were there, if they had shares in the industry, or had some say in it's runnings. But as we all know, the livestck trade has always been, particularly under Siad Barre, a state run enterprise.

That in it itself shows what non-existent understanding you have of neo-colonialism, whether Somalia was ever under it, and I will not not respond to anything else you have to say on this subject since you have already proven to us all you want is an argument on a topic you have absolutely no understanding of.

Dismissed.

[Ican]

Hateful bipolar kid is at it again. Nairobi is an A class city.

[HAUDflower]

British built Nairobi but Italians built Xamar, Kismayo, Baidoa, Beletweyn, etc. -- what is Voltage's point?

Anyway, even though colonialists built African cities, Somalis out of all groups, decided to destroy their prize after victory.

[Gedo_Boy]

Both of you camps have valid points.

[Somaliweyn]

[quote="Voltage"]Somaliweyn I can see a whole redundant argument ensuing in which the end result will be you running hightail and I thinking of how much time I have lost so I will sum it this way:


Somalia broke ALL relations with Britain in 1965, so that destroys any argument you have for neo-colonialism.

Also your understanding of neo-colonialism is not even rudimentary at best. It is not an aspect of neo-colonialism that our economy has always been dependent on Livestok export, no that just means Somalia was a developing country. It would have been neo-colonialism if the British STILL controlled the Livestock trade, if their middle man were there, if they had shares in the industry, or had some say in it's runnings. But as we all know, the livestck trade has always been, particularly under Siad Barre, a state run enterprise.

That in it itself shows what non-existent understanding you have of neo-colonialism, whether Somalia was ever under it, and I will not not respond to anything else you have to say on this subject since you have already proven to us all you want is an argument on a topic you have absolutely no understanding of.

Dismissed.[/quote]

LOL, I was easy on you since development economics is my field. Neo-colonialism is the strenghtening of ties between the European countries and their African domains after the period of independence, and this happened mainly because of economic ties and structures between the core (European countries) and peripery (African countries). Cultural and political neo-colonialism existed too, but was mainly the consequence of the economical aspect of neo-colonialism, since becoming dependent economically ment leverage for the countries you depend on.

So has you can see, we are not interested whether the trade was controlled or run but in how the economical structure of a country resembles what the previous colonial governments envisioned it to be. For example, Britain envisioned Northern Somalia's economy to be based on export of lifestock to Aden and the Arabian peninsula (Their militairy bases there). After 1960, Berbera had only exported lifestock as a meaningfull activity. In Italian Somaliland, the Italians envisioned the economy to be based on agriculture and mainly to export sugar, banana and other tropical products to mainly Italian mainland since these products were heavily dependent on Italian subsidies and thus not competitive on the world market. After 1960, Mogadishu had exported these tropical products with Banana export been the lion share to, guess where? Italy. And what was the reason? Because these tropical products were still dependent on foreign cash, not Italian subsidies this time, but Foreign aid from mainly Western countries in the beginning with Italy and Britain leading, and a short period of socialist aid before Somalia was handed over again to IMF and World Bank, two Western economic institutions. In which the Italians again entered the economy of Somalia.

After 1980s Somalia like many other African countries had to accept Structural Adjustment Programs of IMF/World Bank, which ment losing what ever economic freedom they had left to lead their own development process. A neo-colonialism at its best.

I would be careful next time before jumping to assumptions and conclusions about people. So far, that has been a main characteristic of you...which I have adressed on numerous accounts.

We should learn from history, and this requires been objective and serious.

Insha allah, we will built our economy patiently from scratch again. This time based on what we envision it to be, not whats in the interest of others.

[TheBigBosS]

It will be part of greater somalia 1 day inschallah

[muslim-man]

maashaAllah