Brave stance of Guriceel

[Somaliweyn]

Ciidamadii Itoobiyaanka ahaa ee beryahan ku sugnaa Degmada Guriceel oo halkaas isaga soo dhaqaaqay

http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2008/July/w ... 1-4005.htm





Ethiopians went out after they were fought fiercly by brave men indeed

Every town or city should take example from Guri-ceel.

[Alchemist]

[eyes-only]

Is it really the brave stance of the residents of Guriceel or the Ethiopian tactics?

This has happened a couple of times before. They go there, kill a few people, destroy homes and businesses, do whatever they feel like and then come back out before they can be publicly condemned for what they've done. They know they can't occupy that place like other towns because they have 0 supporters there and will be faced with a strong resistance. Plus they did announce publicly at one point that they were at war with the clan that lives there so they can't really go in there and engage in a lengthy and bloody war because that would be it for Zenawi.

As much as I'd love to call this a win for the brave residents of Guriceel, it appears as though it was just a tactical manoeuvre of the Ethiopians to detract attention from the fact that they've lost Hiiraan. Claim that they're going after the root cause of the strengthening insurgency in that region. I say give it a few months and they'll be back in there doing the same. Unless something drastic happens before then of course.

[AbdiWahab252]

Somaliweyn,

How will you get the war beyond Hawiyedom ?

[guhad122]

Eyes-only;
There are many places the Amxaaro destroyed yet they still occupy some of those places. Guri-Ceel should be remembered for their bravery stand against the Amxaaro.

AW,
Why are you stuck with the clan ideology that destroyed us? An elderly Sacad dude who now leaves in LA and is a good friend of my uncle in San Diego used to say that Sacad waa labo:
1. Kuwo Majeertoomay oo dhabayaco noqday oo sida dhabayacada u dhaqma oo dhaqankoodii ka tagay. Technically the Sacads in Mudug are Dhabayoco.
2. Iyo kuwo wali sharaf badani ku hartay laakiin laga tiro badan yahay.

In reading some of your comments, I gotta recall that gent's comments and wonder if you have been Dhabayacized..
Stop this Hawiye hoopla and crap Saaxiib....

[AbdiWahab252]

Guhad,

Saxiib, I see the reality. This is a war being fought primarily by the Hawiye. All other tribes are not involved with the notable exception of some Ogaden and Raxanwein wadaads.

Am I lying ?

As for the bloody UIC, where are the nonHawiye courts today ? The UIC label has been flatly pinned on Hawiye and more specifically HG. Every other clan shunned their UIC wing and denied their involvement in the movement.

As for the Odeey, I disagree with him. Sacad have invested heavily in attempting to stop the misery that grips us today. Unfortunately, our hawiye did not see the dangers of the UIC.

[ciiseguure]

Indhacade changed the ppl of Guriceel.
Last year Ethiopian troops were in Guriceel and the residents of that Tuulo were playing soccer with them.
Today they are fighting back.
Through the BBC i heard a guy from Galkacyo represinting Abdulahi Cise Human rights saying that Ethiopians should stay where they were during the meeting in Djibouti, and should leave Guriceel as soon as possible.

All he means was go back to Belet Wein, Hiiraan, What a looser (Qabiiliste).
It bothers him that the Ethiopians are occupying this Tuulo but he doesn't care if they stay
in Great Hiiraan and keep killing our folks.
And this other elder who always says that he represents Hawiye elders in Somalia Ahmed Diriye was so mad towards Ethiopians when they took over Guriceel, but we never heard him saying a Word towards the Ethiopians when they were killing, occupying all over Hiiraan.
We need to fight all those killers in Somalia such as: TFG, Ethiopians and Alshabaab.

[Somaliweyn]

Ciiseguure,

Welcome back.


Guriceel made a good decision to fight back and endure the hardship then to live under occupation.


Beledweyne is liberated but the enemy is again intent to occupy Hiiraan. People should fight them on their way to the cities. They should not be given time to rest and regroup.

But things are going great in Hiiraan, the only place so far where classic rural guerilla war is waged against the enemy whereby the city is left to them while they are harassed in the rural area's:

http://www.hiiraan.com/news2/2008/Jun/s ... _city.aspx

[AbdiWahab252]

Ciise Gure,

Axmed Dirie is not from Guriceel but from Cadaado. He has condemned both the TFG & Shabab on many occasions.

But you are right about confronting the TFG/Ethiopians & Shabab.

[guhad122]

AW;
At the beginning of the battle; there were two main fronts; the Hawiye front of Buur-Hakaba and Daarod(Ogaadeen+
Mareexaan) front of Diinsoor. The Raxanweeys were split in both fronts. We lost and fled to Jubooyinka; both fronts. There are nasty battles in the jungles of Jubba and the Ethiopians played safe and didn't stay in Juba too long. They didn't care whose land they occupied. When thing that Courts brought us is that Somalis can unite and forget this clan crap that become our destruction.

During the five day war of Muqdisho, I know some Ogaadeen families who lost people there and guess what some of these people weren't even Wadaads. This is a Somali thing and it should left like that....Forget about few Sacads controlling all the resources in Muqdisho because that is how it was prior to the ICU...That will not happen again...All the resources of Somalia belong to Somalia and ICU proved that we can all coexist and our resources are enough...You are still crying for Adeer Cabdi Qaydiid to collect fake taxes for few greedy Sacads...See the bigger picture Saaxiib....

[AbdiWahab252]

Guhad,

But there is no fighting in Kismayo, the Jubba valley, Bay etc. It is concentrated in Hawiyedom. Why ?

Why do the Darood and Raxanweyn ICU melt away & the Hawiye ones didn't ?

Sacad didn't control all the resources. I blame the ICU for helping open up a path for the Ethiopians and Abdullahi Yusuf.

[guhad122]

AW;
The Ethiopian can't afford to be stretched that far into Jubba Valley. One place that I believe should have done better in this struggle to liberate Somalia is Gedo in terms of harressing the Amxaaro that travel through the region. And I blame the policies of few greedy Af-Weyne remnants of Reer Diini for the inactions of Gedo including that of Huuraale.
Remember that what liberated Xamar from the likes of Bashiir Raage and Muuse Suudi were the fighters from Jubaland. Every single week, hundreds of well-trained and ready-to-die fighters arrive from Jubaland to join the struggle. You may call Benaadir and its environs a Hawiye land, but to me it is a Somali land and the fighting is done by all Somalis of all clans. And if I were there today, I would have picked up the gun and would have fulfilled my duty to fight the filthy Amxaaro. The Hawiye hoopla will take nowhere Saaxiib. When your uncle was the most powerful man in Somalia; all he did was to unleash cruel Karbaash on all Hawiye subclans such Mudulood, Xawaadle, Murursada and so on. See the bigger picture.

[Murax]

Guhad,

But there is no fighting in Kismayo, the Jubba valley, Bay etc..

Hmm....Probably because theres no Eithiopians there, the Eithiopians are in Hawiyedom

[The_Patriot]

Cayr
I think people from Guriceel were given the motivation by their neighbours in Shilabo.
When ONLF karbashed Xabashi in Shilaabo.
Then the people of Guriceel understood that this sissies are cowards.

[guhad122]

Patriot;
Many of the fockers here don't even know their geography. They don't know that Guriceel and Shilaabo are less than 60 KM apart. One of the biggest bases of ONLF is near the border of Guri-Ceel and Shilaabo.