shirkii (SSC) xogwaran ee london iyo Garaad jaamac

[udun]

Wait, does the entire Dhulbahante clan settle in Sanaag or only a sub-subclan of the Dhulbahante (For example Nalaaye Ahmed ALONE) ?

As for the Habr Yonis, is it only one subclan of the Habr Yonis or couple of subclans that live in Sanaag?


When was the latest BATTLE between Habr Yonis subclans VS Dhulbahante Subclans of Sanaag and who won?

Sections of Naalaye Axmed (Dhulbahante) settle in Sanaag. The last battle in Sanaag has taken place in Soolka Damala Xagare in 1991. Damalare is 45KM away from Erigavo. The HY was crushed that they could not offer a fight back. They lost 200 men that the wounded used to be found in the forest for weeks to come.
All of the leaders that this kid brags about was chased one by one and entire subclan of HY was decimated.

I'm assuming that Soolka Damala Xagare belongs to the Dhulbahante clan, but what fascinates me the most is, how you're saying that Dhulbahante, especially the Nalaye Ahmed are strong and defeated the Habr Yonis subclans, YET..here we have the Habr Yonis subclans attacking the heartland of the Dhulbahante in Sanaag.

Am I wrong?

You can be attacked any where and battles can take place any where. What matters is what you do in such battles? Remember, reer miyi do move around so battles can take places different places.

If you have not heard what happened in the battle of Damala Xagare, then you have a long way to go about your research. It was decisive boy. Btw, Damala Xagare is only 45KMs away from Ceerigaabo.

If you are asking about peace conferences, ask yourself why western HY suldaans came to Awrboogays, Fiqifuliye, and Sarmanyo? This is how the peace conferences started. To giv

[Knight of Wisdom]

You can be attacked any where and battles can take place any where. What matters is what you do in such battles? Remember, reer miyi do move around so battles can take places different places.

If you have not heard what happened in the battle of Damala Xagare, then you have a long way to go about your research. It was decisive boy. Btw, Damala Xagare is only 45KMs away from Ceerigaabo.

If you are asking about peace conferences, ask yourself why western HY suldaans came to Awrboogays, Fiqifuliye, and Sarmanyo? This is how the peace conferences started. To giv

So, why was a peace deal reached, when each clan lost a territory to the other?

And, who were the subclans that signed the peace deal and what were the agreements?

[udun]

You can be attacked any where and battles can take place any where. What matters is what you do in such battles? Remember, reer miyi do move around so battles can take places different places.

If you have not heard what happened in the battle of Damala Xagare, then you have a long way to go about your research. It was decisive boy. Btw, Damala Xagare is only 45KMs away from Ceerigaabo.

If you are asking about peace conferences, ask yourself why western HY suldaans came to Awrboogays, Fiqifuliye, and Sarmanyo? This is how the peace conferences started. To giv

So, why was a peace deal reached, when each clan lost a territory to the other?

And, who were the subclans that signed the peace deal and what were the agreements?

The peace conferences took place in several towns and the intention was to end the conflict. Actually, it was HY who wanted due to the Habar - Habar war. The Eastern HY did not want to be squeezed between HJ and Dhulbahante/Warsangeli so it is they who were hurrying to have that peace established but it was beneficial to all to settle it once for all.

Btw, how can you have communities in the same region who have killed each other to live in peace and heal the wounds if you don't start peace and stop hostilities? It was settled in Erigavo and all of the communities settled their differences and a joint governship of Erigavo was established at that time. Its initial head was a HJ guy at that time. After that peace was concluded, all communities lived side by side peacefully and it did hold and it is still holding.

Remember Erigavo is a shared city so if you don't settle its conflicts, how can you have peace?

[Siciid85]

Knight of Wisdom, the dhulbahantes had more grievenes to be met such as being expelled from the capital, and jidaali being occupied so they wanted peace more than the othersides, and today the guys who were spearheading those operations are still alive they were there every moment, three men spearheaded most of the operations and they were the following.



Muj.Libaahe AUN, i currently don't have a picture of him but he was a legend in spearheading the attacks in Xudun in eid day.




Muj. Axmed Miire



Muj. Yusuf Talabo





"SNM militia based in Kulmiye in Sanaag, attacked Dhulbahante civilians in
Dararweyne, Hudun and Sanirgood. Dhulbahante civilians were captured and some were killed in custody,
which caused long-standing grievances among the Dhulbahante (Nur, 2007; Talaabo, 2007)."

[Knight of Wisdom]

Who settles in Dararwayne, Sanirgood and Hudun, today?

[Siciid85]

Knight of Wisdom, Xudun, Sanirgood is dhulbahante i believe, Dararweyn is H.Y territory but there use to be some dhullo families who use to live with them but were expelled in the civil war and at times killed .

[The_Emperior5]

Knight of Wisdom, Xudun, Sanirgood is dhulbahante i believe, Dararweyn is H.Y territory but there use to be some dhullo families who use to live with them but were expelled in the civil war and at times killed .

There is a difference between xudun as a town and xudun as a district xudun district sacadyoonis wa so gaadhan

[Knight of Wisdom]

Knight of Wisdom, Xudun, Sanirgood is dhulbahante i believe, Dararweyn is H.Y territory but there use to be some dhullo families who use to live with them but were expelled in the civil war and at times killed .

So, what's this Peace Deal?

Hey, Udun, I don't know who to trust? I mean, here you are saying that Dhulbahante defeated Habr Yonis, YET Dararweyn belongs to Habr Yonis today, within 20 years ago, it was Dhulbahante.


So, who's telling the truth? YOU or Siciid85?

[udun]

Knight of Wisdom, the dhulbahantes had more grievenes to be met such as being expelled from the capital, and jidaali being occupied so they wanted peace more than the othersides, and today the guys who were spearheading those operations are still alive they were there every moment, three men spearheaded most of the operations and they were the following.



Muj. Axmed Miire



Muj. Yusuf Talabo



Muj.Libaahe AUN .




"SNM militia based in Kulmiye in Sanaag, attacked Dhulbahante civilians in
Dararweyne, Hudun and Sanirgood. Dhulbahante civilians were captured and some were killed in custody,
which caused long-standing grievances among the Dhulbahante (Nur, 2007; Talaabo, 2007)."

The men who left 200 of their cousins, brothers, and uncles killed in battle of Soolka Damala Xagare.
The men who left countless wounded in the forest and did not even pick them up.

Talaabo? The man who were chased 6 times from Jiidali.

The men who witnessed the massacre of 86 Sacad Yoonis by Dhulbahante in Bohol.

The man who witnessed few subclans of Naalaye Axmed and Warsangeli delivering countless defeats to their SNM fighters in Sool and Sanaag.

The men who could not continue the fight on their own when HJ signed peace deal with Dhulbahante.

[Knight of Wisdom]

Knight of Wisdom, Xudun, Sanirgood is dhulbahante i believe, Dararweyn is H.Y territory but there use to be some dhullo families who use to live with them but were expelled in the civil war and at times killed .

There is a difference between xudun as a town and xudun as a district xudun district sacadyoonis wa so gaadhan

Interesting..
Where is Udun? What do you say of this?

[udun]

Knight of Wisdom, Xudun, Sanirgood is dhulbahante i believe, Dararweyn is H.Y territory but there use to be some dhullo families who use to live with them but were expelled in the civil war and at times killed .

Dhulbahante living in Darar weyne? When? In 1988, Dhulbahante forces attacked in Dararweyne and countless Isaaqs were killed. Actually, HJ - Biciide - Boho put up a better fight than HY that is getting repeated in SNET. Nin wax ogi hakuu waramo.

[Siciid85]

Knight of Wisdom, Xudun, Sanirgood is dhulbahante i believe, Dararweyn is H.Y territory but there use to be some dhullo families who use to live with them but were expelled in the civil war and at times killed .

So, what's this Peace Deal?

Hey, Udun, I don't know who to trust? I mean, here you are saying that Dhulbahante defeated Habr Yonis, YET Dararweyn belongs to Habr Yonis today, within 20 years ago, it was Dhulbahante.


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What are you talking about? there was a SNM militia based in Dararweyn so they couldn't dare go there the peace deals were about how to return the lands the sides took from each other like example the H.Y occupied Jidaali, and address issues the dhulbahante and the otherside had with each other.


It was dhullos who first contacted the H.Y to have peace talks



"a group
of ten young Dhulbahante men, all of whom had lived in Erigavo in the past and owned property there, decided to
try and meet with Habar Yoonis representatives themselves. They first made radio contact, then, against
the advice of their own people, set out from Sool and travelled as far as Fiqifuliye42 on the route towards
Erigavo. Again, they made contact with Habar Yoonis elders, who agreed to meet them further along the
road. Seven Habar Yoonis elders led by Saeed Ali Dualeh, the representative of Suldaan Rashid, welcomed
them to Habar Yoonis territory, and the two groups reached an agreement that the Habar Yoonis and
Dhulbahante should meet officially in Dararweyne43."

[udun]

Knight of Wisdom, Xudun, Sanirgood is dhulbahante i believe, Dararweyn is H.Y territory but there use to be some dhullo families who use to live with them but were expelled in the civil war and at times killed .

There is a difference between xudun as a town and xudun as a district xudun district sacadyoonis wa so gaadhan

Interesting..
Where is Udun? What do you say of this?

Xudun baa SY soo gaadhaan? Well, people can say any thing in the NET. That is wishful thinking. It is like me claiming Ceel Afweyn, an stronghold of HJ. People can any thing in terms of grazing but SY settling Xudun? You gotta be making me laugh at it. Thanks for the laughter tough.

There is a town called Laf weyne in San Nirgood and it is settled by Ugaadhyahan ( Reer Jibriil, Reer Cilmi, Bah-Iadarays and gaboobe).

[Siciid85]

Knight of Wisdom, Xudun, Sanirgood is dhulbahante i believe, Dararweyn is H.Y territory but there use to be some dhullo families who use to live with them but were expelled in the civil war and at times killed .

There is a difference between xudun as a town and xudun as a district xudun district sacadyoonis wa so gaadhan

Wa ruunta but the attacks are refering to the attacks that happened in xudun town in eid day. not the district i know they live in the district like bohol, darsi, ceel la helay,siigodheere, those are S.Y territories in Xudun district.

[udun]

Knight of Wisdom, Xudun, Sanirgood is dhulbahante i believe, Dararweyn is H.Y territory but there use to be some dhullo families who use to live with them but were expelled in the civil war and at times killed .

So, what's this Peace Deal?

Hey, Udun, I don't know who to trust? I mean, here you are saying that Dhulbahante defeated Habr Yonis, YET Dararweyn belongs to Habr Yonis today, within 20 years ago, it was Dhulbahante.


:

What are you talking about? there was a SNM militia based in Dararweyn so they couldn't dare go there the peace deals were about how to return the lands the sides took from each other like example the H.Y occupied Jidaali, and address issues the dhulbahante and the otherside had with each other.


It was dhullos who first contacted the H.Y to have peace talks



"a group
of ten young Dhulbahante men, all of whom had lived in Erigavo and owned property there, decided to
try and meet with Habar Yoonis representatives themselves. They first made radio contact, then, against
the advice of their own people, set out from Sool and travelled as far as Fiqifuliye42 on the route towards
Erigavo. Again, they made contact with Habar Yoonis elders, who agreed to meet them further along the
road. Seven Habar Yoonis elders led by Saeed Ali Dualeh, the representative of Suldaan Rashid, welcomed
them to Habar Yoonis territory, and the two groups reached an agreement that the Habar Yoonis and
Dhulbahante should meet officially in Dararweyne43."

Daraweyne being Dhulbahante town 20 years ago? Who told you this? That is utter nonsense. In 1954 when the American petrelum firms were exploring the land for oil, they dug two wells in Awrboogays and Dararweyne. Naalaye Axmed settled in Awrboogeys and Habar Lamaan settled in Darar weyne. You people are crazy and saying any thing on the net.

Meeting in Dararweyne was organized by the Garaad of Ugaadhyahan and two Suldaan of HY including the Suldaan of Xirsi Cismaan. Go and check your facts.

I am talking people who have no idea of whay they are talking about. I did not expected that I will refute we settle Xudun with you and you have been in Darar Weyne 20 years ag. That is no brainer to refute it. Thanks for the laughter.