Let us debate like Men,UNITY DEBATE.

[GeoDesic]

geodesic.

I would have never know that other Somalis held a negative attitude towards isaaqs, I guess some people are really good at lying cause I have been fooled.
btw if everyone likes you or is smiling for you that means someone is lying.

sahan

waa ramadan ka yar qallee.

In another words, just because majority of Somalis have contempt for your separation dreams, you are doing something right? What a warped Logic man. I am one of those cool somalis who don't give a rat's ass about Clan. With that being true and said, I have no respect for any group of Somalis who put their clan first as a tenet of their religion like your Ilk Does. It could have been Majeerteen or another clan, Or Hawiye, I would still express the same contempt for them. I am above Clan mate. Somalia comes first.

[Salah Al-Din]

Geodesic,

Great just as you are determined, Somaliland is determined to remain Sovereign. I guess we'll just have to wait for the big show down. One thing though, with that kind of attitude, I'm not even sure you can unite South Galkacyo & North Galkacyo. Keep up the good work. With people like you around, Somaliland doesn't have to worry about a threat from Somalia, as Somalia is doing a great job at self destruction.

[GeoDesic]

Country and people VS single Clan ---> Country and people win simple.

what country and people? shabab, PL, Galmud, ahlu sun, TF-Amisom, Azania or ximan iyo xeeb and other supposedly unionist (laughing stock) groups

You said it yourself --> "Groups", when the dust setles, Somalis and Somalia will remain. Besides, your clan is just part of these groups, no difference.

[Samatr]

Geodesic

I am above Clan mate. Somalia comes first.

Well, the rest of somalis do not take clanism to the extreme level your ilk does. To you and your ilk

Your words say other wise.

[GeoDesic]

Geodesic,

Great just as you are determined, Somaliland is determined to remain Sovereign. I guess we'll just have to wait for the big show down. One thing though, with that kind of attitude, I'm not even sure you can unite South Galkacyo & North Galkacyo. Keep up the good work. With people like you around, Somaliland doesn't have to worry about a threat from Somalia, as Somalia is doing a great job at self destruction.

Well saxib, that is a promise. Your clan is also part of Somalia's ruin, hence, you share the ugly history in the past 20 years no less. Opportunists driven by clan bigotry and hatred for anyone other than them, you called it quits when Somalis were at their weakest, a fact that doesn't paint you with a good light regardless of your towns being more secure. You share the larger blame and are part of the failures. You exemplify the ugly culture of clanism.

There is nothing to be proud of if you were truly a somali. No true somali would feel happy with the status quo of a country devided by vassals on one side and warlords in the other. You are just a failure, and remind me Somali failures every time I log into Somalinet.


I will never understand why you folks are here among other somalis when you obviously feel you are not part of them. I will recognize you when I don't run into Isaqs anywhere Somalis are found. LOL.

[Samatr]

^
Somali = People
Somalia= Country

Learn the difference.

[The_Emperior5]

Well saxib, that is a promise. Your clan is alos part of Somalia's ruin, hence, you share the ugly history in the past 20 years no less. Opportunists driven by clan bigotry and hatered for anyone other than them, you called it quits when Somalis were at their weakest, a fact that doesn't paint you a good light regardless of your towns being more secure, you share the larger blame and are part of the failures. You exemplify the ugly culture of clanism.

Thats not true Somaliland delcared independnece when Siyaad bare was removed from Somalia so how are we Opportunist How were Somalis on their weakest everything was intact the city the institutions the government buildings everything was intact when we declared independence.

[hargaysaay]

Somaliland should be treated as an independent nation period at least that is the fact on the ground if you my koonfurian bros can get that reality in your head somalis can work some thing out towards beter future

[GeoDesic]

Somaliland should be treated as an independent nation period at least that is the fact on the ground if you my koonfurian bros can get that reality in your head somalis can work some thing out towards beter future

Sure, but that has to happen with All somalis in attendance. It didn't happen that way and the decision was mostly Unilateral. It is for your clan to convince others in good faith when the time is right that they want to call it quits. You can not decide Somalia's future as a single clan period.

You didn't talk to Somali representatives, therefore, no somali recognizes Somaliland as a country or an entity separate from Somalia. This attitude of mine reflects the feelings of all sons of Somalia, and will never change. You can entertain what you want before a resolution comes.


In the meantime, Why not LEAVE US ALONE? We can surely do without you. Can you stand alone as a clan without associating with Somalis or their Name?

[anonymousfaarax]

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You said it yourself --> "Groups", when the dust setles, Somalis and Somalia will remain. Besides, your clan is just part of these groups, no difference.

who will be willing to kick up more 'dust' after, by some miracle, a 21+ year long 'duststorm' settles. Lets be frank, Somalia is just a name, it never was.

[GeoDesic]

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You said it yourself --> "Groups", when the dust setles, Somalis and Somalia will remain. Besides, your clan is just part of these groups, no difference.

who will be willing to kick up more 'dust' after, by some miracle, a 21+ year long 'duststorm' settles. Lets be frank, Somalia is just a name, it never was.

Somalia's political system may be nothing to speak of, but Somalia as a country and Somalis as people are still alive and well. Somalia didn't die with the creation of fiefdoms like Somaliland and Puntland, these entities serve a purpose that is transitional in nature. Both don't represent Somalia as a whole but parts of it. The world recognizes these fiefdoms as such, safe-havens created by clans.

[GeoDesic]

Anyways, you folks know where my stance is, that will never change, Afur Wanaagsan. You all take care. My time is up.

[Samatr]

Somaliland should be treated as an independent nation period at least that is the fact on the ground if you my koonfurian bros can get that reality in your head somalis can work some thing out towards beter future

Sure, but that has to happen with All somalis in attendance. It didn't happen that way and the decision was mostly Unitarian. It is for your clan to convince others in good faith when the time is right that they want to call it quits. You can not decide Somalia's future as a single clan period.

You didn't talk to Somali representatives, therefore, no somali recognizes Somaliland as a country or an entity separate from Somalia. This attitude of mine reflects the feelings of all sons of Somalia, and will never change. You can entertain what you want before a resolution comes.


In the meantime, Why not LEAVE US ALONE? We can surely do without you. Can you stand alone as a clan without associating with Somalis or their Name?

again learn to differentiate between the two: Somalia (country), Somali (people).
with that said, no one has a monopoly on Somalinimo or being Somali.
what Somali representives? you mean the same ones that had no problem bombing it's own citizens women and children alike, you must be living in a fantasy world if you think anyone would ask them to be part of any process
or are you part of the crowd that denies anything happened and that Somalilanders just woke up one day and decided to split from the rest of Somalia.

[gurey25]

its the trauma of somalias situation that makes them act like children..

he thinks somalia the country equals the somali people...

[The_Emperior5]

its the trauma of somalias situation that makes them act like children..

he thinks somalia the country equals the somali people...

or when they call Somalia Somaliweyn