Arabs were the last to abolish slavery ?

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Re: Arabs were the last to abolish slavery ?

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Blacks were not and are not the only slaves.

Slavery isn't also the obvious "chained-up" image we all have.

Slavery comes in all forms.

There are millions of Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladeshis who are partially enslaved by construction companies, hotels and homeowners in the UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. A lot are not also paid. The most obviously are but their wages are peanuts. I met a Napalese man in San Marco Hotel in Deira that told me he was paid $50 a month, his passport ripped up and then goes begging a Russian man staying at the hotel to help him flee when he realized I couldn't help him. He also claimed he wasn't paid for the previous two months before the current month.

Slavery is very alive in the Arab world; its not abolished and its only just begun
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Re: Arabs were the last to abolish slavery ?

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Nomand wrote:why is slavery automatically associated with negros? romans use to enslave the babarians tribes such as the guls from france, germans the romans also enslaved arabs and brits.

the british send over 30 thousand white irish as slaves to america

here is the link

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/ses ... te-slaves/
Slavery existed through out all the time and slaves was not only Black africans. but the reason slaves and black africans are associated is the African continent and Black people are the only race who suffared most of slavery . millions of black people was inslaved bye europeans and arabs and was shipped across the atlantic ocean and great african diserts and million of black african were killed during the slavery.
in ancient times in many islamic scholars they believed black people or what they call cursed race of children of Ham and they was created only for been slaves for the race of the children of sham(arabs and romans/greeks) and jabbat(turks). so blacks people suffared most of slavery.
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Re: Arabs were the last to abolish slavery ?

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Colonel wrote:
Nomand wrote:why is slavery automatically associated with negros? romans use to enslave the babarians tribes such as the guls from france, germans the romans also enslaved arabs and brits.

the british send over 30 thousand white irish as slaves to america

here is the link

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/ses ... te-slaves/
But CNN didn't tell me this?
even negros automatically associated slavery with negros on the plantation. i remember a while back at uni they had a black society and all they talked about was slavery.
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Slavery never really ended it was just transformed. Slavery still exist ciise. I mean There are some places where people do the most difficult jobs under the most unbearable conditions for less than a buck a day. Isn't that a form of slavery? Cheap labor, child labor selling under age girls for sex and etc.. ain't that shyt slavery?
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this thread is hate speech against Arabs
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Arabs Still legally Aquire Slaves. lol
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Lets hear it from a descendant of slaves why black people make good slaves :lol:

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Adali wrote:1962: Saudi Arabia abolishes slavery
1962: Yemen abolishes slavery
1963: United Arab Emirates abolishes slavery
1970: Oman abolishes slavery
1981: Mauritania abolishes slavery

Mauritania and Oman literately allowed slavery as a legal business during the time of the Kacaan, you could just go to a slave market and buy yourself a human being. :shock: :shock:
Ironically, slavery is perfectly legal in Islam (maybe not in the form of recent black people slavery business). I wonder why Saudi Arabia did it since it is governed by strict Sharia law.
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waryaa wrote:
Adali wrote:1962: Saudi Arabia abolishes slavery
1962: Yemen abolishes slavery
1963: United Arab Emirates abolishes slavery
1970: Oman abolishes slavery
1981: Mauritania abolishes slavery

Mauritania and Oman literately allowed slavery as a legal business during the time of the Kacaan, you could just go to a slave market and buy yourself a human being. :shock: :shock:
Ironically, slavery is perfectly legal in Islam (maybe not in the form of recent black people slavery business). I wonder why Saudi Arabia did it since it is governed by strict Sharia law.
lol Too many Islamic Scholars Not enough Talibans on SNET... Slavery was abolished By the prophet Pbuh.
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Re: Arabs were the last to abolish slavery ?

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MidriGeez wrote:Slavery was abolished By the prophet Pbuh.
Any source? Ayah or sahih hadith? tnx in advance.
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waryaa wrote:
MidriGeez wrote:Slavery was abolished By the prophet Pbuh.
Any source? Ayah or sahih hadith? tnx in advance.
Prophet Muhammed PBUH Said:

"There are three categories of people against whom I shall myself be a plaintiff on the Day of Judgement. Of these three, one is he who enslaves a free man, then sells him and eats this money" (al-Bukhari and Ibn Majjah).

In yom El qiyama it will be a blessing for any Muslim to Have the prophet pbuh be on His side Infront of Allah swt, and that is what we all wish for, But to have the prophet Against you?? :shock: I think you get the Picture. Slavery was like people watching TV among the arabs 1400 Years ago, islam came to abolish it, but the process had to be slowly, Not that the prophet couldn't have said " it is haram and slavery is abolished from Midnight" but In islam you are punished by your intention not your actions, so the slow abolishment was neccesary to Detox the society out of the habit of slavery and make people convinced and believe that slavery harms other Human Beings so if you wanted to continue slaving people after all that you saw then It is out of your intention Not your Ignorance.
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Re: Arabs were the last to abolish slavery ?

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Midrigeez gotta disagree with you there, it seems that you quoted a hadith and just made your own interpretation of it.

Of course randomly running into some1's house and saying "you're my slave" is not allowed but through warfare can the same thing be said? This issue is a lot more complex than this.
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Re: Arabs were the last to abolish slavery ?

Post by Grant »

Slavery in Africa today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_slavery


The current situation in Saudi Arabia is aggravated by a fatwa by a prominent Wahaabbi Shaykh to the effect that slavery is a necessary and eternal part of Islam:

"While slavery is illegal in Saudi Arabia despite Shaykh al-Fawzan's fatwa, the proclamation carries weight among many Salafi Muslims. According to reformist jurist and author Khaled Abou El Fadl, it "is particularly disturbing and dangerous because it effectively legitimates the trafficking in and sexual exploitation of so-called domestic workers in the Gulf region and especially Saudi Arabia."[132] Organized criminal gangs smuggle children into Saudi Arabia where they are enslaved, sometimes mutilated, and forced to work as beggars. When caught, the children are deported as illegal aliens.[133]

According to the U.S. State Department:

Saudi Arabia is a destination for men and women from South and East Asia and East Africa trafficked for the purpose of labor exploitation, and for children from Yemen, Afghanistan, and Africa trafficking for forced begging. Hundreds of thousands of low-skilled workers from India, Indonesia, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, and Kenya migrate voluntarily to Saudi Arabia; some fall into conditions of involuntary servitude, suffering from physical and sexual abuse, non-payment or delayed payment of wages, the withholding of travel documents, restrictions on their freedom of movement and non-consensual contract alterations. The Government of Saudi Arabia does not comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking and is not making significant efforts to do so.[134]"
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Re: Arabs were the last to abolish slavery ?

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I dont believe islam intended to abolish slavery: at the time slavery being the mode of production any ideology that proclaims its abolition will be short lived!

This being said affirming that Islam wanted to abolish slavery in gradual slow way is dishonest...
No muslim society came to abolish slavery by reading Qoran and the hadiths....its under the Western pressure that ALL muslims abolished slavery!
There had never been any islamic school of thought that rejected slavery; the notable exception being a Malian scholar who wrote a treaty against it.
His people being at the receiving end...i am tempted to say he was more inspired by wat befell on his people rather than Koran and Hadiths!
I never read any modern scholar who rejected totally and radically slavery :shock:

The question is are we supposed to lie and cover up for our religion? :?:

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Re: Arabs were the last to abolish slavery ?

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this topic really brought out all the anti-islamist didn't it :down:
first of all, Islam and Arab are not the same, and what an Arab does or does not do really has no relevance in Islamic Law, if an Arab rapes a woman does that mean Islam told him to do it or allowed him to do it ??? no. So why would you think Islam is behind slavery when Arabs practiced this shit long before Islam had reached them, and continued to do it despite Islam. If Arabs are your Gods then i truly feel sorry for your apes shit brains.

Islam is clearly against Slavery, there are many Quranic verses, Hadith that proves this, Islam suppressed slavery by encouraging the emancipation of slaves, promising rewards in the after life, even if someone was convicted of certain crime the emancipation of slaves were accepted as due justice. Islam also provides funding to already freed slaves, and removes the stigma the ex-slave carries by encouraging marriage with those who choose to be Muslim, giving equal rights to the slave was also something unique to Islam, the list goes on. African Americans according to Islam were not slaves because they were captured as free men who were attacked for the only purpose of enslaving them. Its embarrassing that even in a Somali forum we have to defend the religion in every topic and give Dacwa at every turn, can we not discuss topics without injecting religion.

This topic is not about Islam but about Arabs.
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