Y IS WHITE---X IS BLACK

[afisoone]

This is a very Ethical Issue raised by well by some judge named Michele Antonio. Her argument is very convincing.. Here is her arguments

Criminal X and Y had Identical criminal records and had commited identical crimes, but Y was not a school dropout, Y had job which he could return if he did not send to prison, and Y had a supportive family who would take him back if allowed to do so, while the unfortunate X was a school dropout, was unemployed, and lacked supportive family. Let's suppose that past studies reveal the criminals with X criminal record and with his environmental circumstances have 1-10 chances of involving in a crime with personal violence. I suggest X should go to prison based on the predictions. Y should be sent home because he pays taxes and is a good employee.

What do you think in this Ethical thinking? Is this true in America? Show me some evidence?

[Insomniac]

No.

[afisoone]

No.

The answer is yes. Here is the evidence.

The a recent criminal study reports, 32% of young black men age group 20-29 was under criminal supervision on any given day- means they are either prison, jail, probation or parole. That is a fact.

Let's talk about the ethical problem here.. Please bring a good argument... I will my argument later tonight.

[Insomniac]

I meant no as in, no I won't bring you any evidence.

[afisoone]

I meant no as in, no I won't bring you any evidence.

I meant those who make their case in this little arguments. You shouldn't be responding if you don't participate this thread.

[Insomniac]

But mate, nobody will participate in this thread. Horta did you stop hating on that writer? The one who stole your work or something.

[Spec2014]

A person who commits a crime & doesn't have an extensive criminal record & is/was productive in society should be given a 2nd chance regardless of race! A person with an extensive criminal record & isn't productive & without support doesn't only deserve to be locked up but also castrated irrespective of race! We all know which group overwhelmingly fits the latter description but to call out the "Elephant" is to be racist in such a pc world!

[afisoone]

A person who commits a crime & doesn't have an extensive criminal record & is/was productive in society should be given a 2nd chance regardless of race! A person with an extensive criminal record & isn't productive & without support doesn't only deserve to be locked up but also castrated irrespective of race! We all know which group overwhelmingly fits the latter description but to call out the "Elephant" is to be racist in such a pc world!

My friend we are discussing two people with identical criminal record and had committed Identical crime.

We are not discussing repeated offender in this argument..

[Spec2014]

I am biased against the "Black" offender....I have my personal reasons...So it's best I withdraw from this thread!

[afisoone]

I am biased against the "Black" offender....I have my personal reasons...So it's best I withdraw from this thread!

You use the word "biased" That exactly what is all about in this argument.

Here is my response to this article..

Our society violence predictor are not racial neutral. They now have X has 1-10 to commit personal violence based on their statistics, but Y has no prediction or nothing but expect him everything that is good.

Let me make my case even stronger..

Even Black youth who moved to middle class has same violence rate as those of the white youths, but it is the black youth who is underclass, left behind. How can be american system racially neutral when 1 out of twenty black youth are in jail or prison.

[Spec2014]

My solution would be very radical,unorthodox & extremely harsh! Some people just inherently react to brutish tactics! There are many blue prints to deal with this crime pandemic that seems to have a certain pattern across the globe! The common denominator(s) needs to be isolated...White criminals are likely to be "objective criminals" while most Black criminals are "indiscriminate" & unnecessarily "violent"...this needs to be looked at in a very objective way...leaving "emotions" & "feelings" at the door!

[afisoone]

My solution would be very radical,unorthodox & extremely harsh! Some people just inherently react to brutish tactics! There are many blue prints to deal with this crime pandemic that seems to have a certain pattern across the globe! The common denominator(s) needs to be isolated...White criminals are likely to be "objective criminals" while most Black criminals are "indiscriminate" & unnecessarily "violent"...this needs to be looked at in a very objective way...leaving "emotions" & "feelings" at the door!

Ok How about like this..

That is another point if you think objective criminal are less punishable. What about two people one white and the other is black and they both commit objective criminal?

[Spec2014]

I don't buy into the whole "Blame whiety" mumbo jumbo...Its grossly exaggerated & totally discards personal responsibility! Another thing that's ignored is the mental caliber of the criminals! The "lower IQ" individual has a much higher chance of being caught while a more intelligent criminal can orchestrate a much smarter plan arousing in little to no suspicion & evidence....It's not a cut & dry situation there are multiple factors at play! But if anyone where to do research on this many would be un-pleased & cry foul with the results! So it continues unabated until who knows when? That's my 2cents.

[Spec2014]

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Ok How about like this..

That is another point if you think objective criminal are less punishable. What about two people one white and the other is black and they both commit objective criminal?

Crime trends are not as "Black" & "White" as you want to allude there buddy! The vast majority of Black criminals don't fall in the "Objective Criminal" category but the "Indiscriminate Criminal" category! It also doesn't help that "Black" males constitute less then 6% of the total U.S population but commit 53% of all crimes including murder! So mathematically speaking the "Black" criminal is more likely to continue his life of "indiscriminate" crime! White males out number the entire "Black" population so the criminal rates are much smaller by percentage but higher by raw numbers! Hence why the courts & society at large are biased to the "Black"... His statistics proceed him everywhere he goes! That's the cold hard truth here! People can pretend to be "fair" & "unbiased" but society looks at the "Black" male with an eye of suspicion including the greater "Black Community"!

[afisoone]

I don't buy into the whole "Blame whiety" mumbo jumbo...Its grossly exaggerated & totally discards personal responsibility! Another thing that's ignored is the mental caliber of the criminals! The "lower IQ" individual has a much higher chance of being caught while a more intelligent criminal can orchestrate a much smarter plan arousing in little to no suspicion & evidence....It's not a cut & dry situation there are multiple factors at play! But if anyone where to do research on this many would be un-pleased & crying foul with the results! So it continues unabated until who knows when? That's my 2cents.

No one blames the whites or green. Are we follow the law or not. One of the best people who complain about this injustice are white people. Here watch the town called Clinton, Alabama. A school principal refused to treat the blacks as different... He was white and I am proud of him for him following the common sense and the law of the land. here is the video. I admire some of the white people in America .

Those people were forced to follow the Law by a few white people. They deserve a great respect in the history of their town... Those few white people creates a new generation of white people who refused racism...