Is there hope for Somalia?

[thegoodshepherd]

@yusuf
Your people will never be able to compete with us. If you could compete politically you would have while you still had a chance in the decade after independence.
The highest you ever got was PM under an MJ president
A united Somalia is to my advantage, and so is a divided Somalia.
In a united Somalia you will always be a second-tier clan, same as D&M
You can talk to me as an equal when each idoor subclan has its own gobol,
otherwise sit your ass down

[zumaale]

GSheperd

The States you boast of will count for nothing in a one man one vote presidential election. The Darood in the two Somalilands and the Isaq are close in numbers. All one has to drive through Puntland to realise that outside the major cities, dhulka waa cidlo. Without the Absames in Zone 5, you guys are behind Hawiye and Dir/Isaaq in terms of numbers. Hence, why Gas is so eager for federal representation in Parliament.

[thegoodshepherd]

GSheperd

The States you boast of will count for nothing in a one man one vote presidential election. The Darood in the two Somalilands and the Isaq are close in numbers. All one has to drive through Puntland to realise that outside the major cities, dhulka waa cidlo. Without the Absames in Zone 5, you guys are behind Hawiye and Dir/Isaaq in terms of numbers. Hence, why Gas is so eager for federal representation in Parliament.

The funny thing is, I'm technically not even from Somalia. Most of my subclan live in Ethiopia, look at my location
If you think my 400,000 relatives in Wardheer Woreda will not vote in Galkacyo you are sorely mistaken.
We will organize bus routes in order to get as many of them to polling stations as possible.
Same thing for Cabudwaaq bringing in people from Shilabo iyo Qorahey Woreda.
Same thing in Ceelbarde, Yeed in Bakool, bringing in people from Afdheer Woreda.
and so on, and so forth all over Jubaland. That is the reason my friend a popular one man one vote will not happen. \
Darood would win in a landslide, majorities over 50%

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

nope. ha is daalina folks.


I'm glad my parents managed to leave that hellhole.

[zumaale]

GSheperd

The States you boast of will count for nothing in a one man one vote presidential election. The Darood in the two Somalilands and the Isaq are close in numbers. All one has to drive through Puntland to realise that outside the major cities, dhulka waa cidlo. Without the Absames in Zone 5, you guys are behind Hawiye and Dir/Isaaq in terms of numbers. Hence, why Gas is so eager for federal representation in Parliament.

The funny thing is, I'm technically not even from Somalia. Most of my subclan live in Ethiopia, look at my location
If you think my 400,000 relatives in Wardheer Woreda will not vote in Galkacyo you are sorely mistaken.
We will organize bus routes in order to get as many of them to polling stations as possible.
Same thing for Cabudwaaq bringing in people from Shilabo iyo Qorahey Woreda.
Same thing in Ceelbarde, Yeed in Bakool, bringing in people from Afdheer Woreda.
and so on, and so forth all over Jubaland. That is the reason my friend a popular one man one vote will not happen. \
Darood would win in a landslide, majorities over 50%

Good,

I applaud your political maneuvering but have you given it thought that it is possible to secure the borders or instigate a voter registration scheme that utilises fingerprints. Moreover, Wardheer Woreda has a population of 306,000 according to the inflated statistics of the most recent Ethiopian census so stop the faan. Horn countries are known for inaccurate statistics due to the nomadic state of large parts of their populations.

Why am I even arguing with you? Why can't we Somalis not put our differences apart and focus our tribal energies on reclaiming our occupied territories in Kilil 5 and NFD.

[Hodan94]

^^ the only ppl can reclaim the occupied territories are those that live in the land, my granddads bro's all died for some useless war never again.
if they are serious weapons can be provided for them. but if you watch ESTV. You should know that these ppl would rather live under Ethiopia than separate.
many people have died in vain.

[thegoodshepherd]

Good,

I applaud your political maneuvering but have you given it thought that it is possible to secure the borders or instigate a voter registration scheme that utilises fingerprints. Moreover, Wardheer Woreda has a population of 306,000 according to the inflated statistics of the most recent Ethiopian census so stop the faan. Horn countries are known for inaccurate statistics due to the nomadic state of large parts of their populations.
Why am I even arguing with you? Why can't we Somalis not put our differences apart and focus our tribal energies on reclaiming our occupied territories in Kilil 5 and NFD.

Wardheer has over 400,000 people by now, it had 360,000 in 2008.
Afdheer has a population of 700,000
Godey has a population of 600,000
Garissa has a population of 730,000


We would only need to set up one polling station on the border in Dhobley, one in Yeed, one in Goldogob and one in Cabudwaaq. All on the border, so that Darood geeljires can come and vote without even going too far from home.
According to the Somali constitution, everyone who speaks Somali is a Somali citizen by default.
This would be very easy to pull off, all that Darood would have to do is form the "Party for a Federal Somalia", and have all of those voters vote for it.This is why a popular vote will never happen in Somalia, Darood would win every single election. We may even outnumber D&M in Bakool in terms of votes cast

[theyuusuf143]

I admit my people are not hypocrite flip floppers. but my people are stronger we get what we want by force. in fact we are the world's top well organized de facto country/rebel movement/clan with one aim even the kurds ethnic are far more behind us.

[lali99]

Good,

I applaud your political maneuvering but have you given it thought that it is possible to secure the borders or instigate a voter registration scheme that utilises fingerprints. Moreover, Wardheer Woreda has a population of 306,000 according to the inflated statistics of the most recent Ethiopian census so stop the faan. Horn countries are known for inaccurate statistics due to the nomadic state of large parts of their populations.
Why am I even arguing with you? Why can't we Somalis not put our differences apart and focus our tribal energies on reclaiming our occupied territories in Kilil 5 and NFD.

Wardheer has over 400,000 people by now, it had 360,000 in 2008.
Afdheer has a population of 700,000
Godey has a population of 600,000
Garissa has a population of 730,000


We would only need to set up one polling station on the border in Dhobley, one in Yeed, one in Goldogob and one in Cabudwaaq. All on the border, so that Darood geeljires can come and vote without even going too far from home.
According to the Somali constitution, everyone who speaks Somali is a Somali citizen by default.
This would be very easy to pull off, all that Darood would have to do is form the "Party for a Federal Somalia", and have all of those voters vote for it.This is why a popular vote will never happen in Somalia, Darood would win every single election. We may even outnumber D&M in Bakool in terms of votes cast

Any realistic person will tell you that those number those not reflect the reality on the ground. For the last 20 years, somalis have been emigrating out of somalia and into those regions. Garissa numbers have been disputed by kenya authorities because of the refugees numbers and in the woreda, go and make calculations and you will be able to see that darood does not make 50% of the whole population in K5. As for inside the republic of somali (1960-1991), isaaq does outnumbered darood which is the main reason why the previous kacaan government did not published the census that they initially sponsored. Is all about DENSITY and not land-mass.

In a census estimates done by some southern-centric somalis in canada, it was "apparently" estimated that Darood makes up to 33%, isaaq and hawiyeh, 25% in all somali populated regions. Is all an estimate but they got those numbers with census from ethiopia, kenya, djibouti and density map of previous somali republic.

if one man one vote occur, i seriously believed that hargeisa will have the same number has all of puntland.


P.S. Isaaq never got to be president of former somali republic because the stacks were held against them by darood, hawiyeh and D&M, a typical south vs north thing.
1 clan vs 4, another example of injustice. out of that fight, they came out victorious today and more united then ever.

[SultanOrder]

nope. ha is daalina folks.


I'm glad my parents managed to leave that hellhole.

I thought your parents went back sxb?

[HalfSomali]

Somalia is a dead raped prostitute who's dead body keeps getting abused by necrophilia loving foreigners.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

nope. ha is daalina folks.


I'm glad my parents managed to leave that hellhole.

I thought your parents went back sxb?

lol they still there, what i meant was i'm glad they came to sweden in the late 80s so i could enjoy the comfortable life in the west. My bad should've expressed myself in a better way. good looking out.

[Dome]

I honestly lol when i hear an Issaq call Daroods langaab. Infact Issaqs are so langaab that they need Harti and their lands to be an independent country. Even the oil that they the agreed with the Norwegians to drill is Harti. I rest my case.

[Dome]

I honestly lol when i hear an Issaq call Daroods langaab. Infact Issaqs are so langaab that they need Harti and their lands to be an independent country. Even the oil that they the agreed with the Norwegians to drill is Harti. I rest my case.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

^^^^^^^Do you also laugh about your qaxootinimo? Dumbass.