the real reason why iran sopports the syrian regime
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the real reason why iran sopports the syrian regime
tribalism exists in syria in the less rural developed provinces of north east along side the borders with iraq and in the southren part of the country along side the borders with iraq and jordan known as badiyat ash sham
the arabic tribalism is different than the somali tribalism
their tribalism is only a way of life wich is reflected in their national drama in ramadam or fridays
for example they only marry their cousins and dont know eachother outside side of their families
even a guy cant talk to his female cousin!
our tribalism is political bc we r tribally open to eachother and its hard to find a person who is not mixed tribally but we care about it only in politics 24/7
the singer, the politician, the footballer, the minister all have to belong to this clan or that clan while most of the carab artists are christians!
a very educated person in arabia cant be tribal while the somali professors lead their clans!
nevertheless, the political tribalism only appears in syria at the time there r crises as a form of political solidarity
but the qabila in their concept equals as somali or even beyond that
its some thing thats only for tracing ones origins so in this way the same qabila can be found in iraq, yemen, egypt etc. thats why it doesnt matter
what we somalis call qabila they call it cashira a people who live in the same region
now for a political mobilization, the biggest syrian tribe have found out that they r divided religiousely as some of their villages in rif of halab, homs and deir elzour converted to shiism in the last decades!
apparently iran missionary have been operating in their villages and got increased under al bashar bc hes fully under its control unlike of his father
thanks god these shia number 2 percent among the sunni muslims
the regime doesnt care of his alawite sect since they r not muslims and r looking for a religious legitimacy even shiism they let iran to operate within the alawite communuty too!
iran is a poision
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... ERQnllBVIw
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... sc6DXx0W_A
the arabic tribalism is different than the somali tribalism
their tribalism is only a way of life wich is reflected in their national drama in ramadam or fridays
for example they only marry their cousins and dont know eachother outside side of their families
even a guy cant talk to his female cousin!
our tribalism is political bc we r tribally open to eachother and its hard to find a person who is not mixed tribally but we care about it only in politics 24/7
the singer, the politician, the footballer, the minister all have to belong to this clan or that clan while most of the carab artists are christians!
a very educated person in arabia cant be tribal while the somali professors lead their clans!
nevertheless, the political tribalism only appears in syria at the time there r crises as a form of political solidarity
but the qabila in their concept equals as somali or even beyond that
its some thing thats only for tracing ones origins so in this way the same qabila can be found in iraq, yemen, egypt etc. thats why it doesnt matter
what we somalis call qabila they call it cashira a people who live in the same region
now for a political mobilization, the biggest syrian tribe have found out that they r divided religiousely as some of their villages in rif of halab, homs and deir elzour converted to shiism in the last decades!
apparently iran missionary have been operating in their villages and got increased under al bashar bc hes fully under its control unlike of his father
thanks god these shia number 2 percent among the sunni muslims
the regime doesnt care of his alawite sect since they r not muslims and r looking for a religious legitimacy even shiism they let iran to operate within the alawite communuty too!
iran is a poision
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... ERQnllBVIw
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... sc6DXx0W_A
Re: the real reason why iran sopports the syrian regime
If the sources I read were not wrong, the current Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad has called the religious leaders of the Alawite community to come out of their secretive rituals and embrace mainstream Sunni Islam. His wife is a Sunni, and he prays with Sunni Muslims in Sunni mosques. According to a former leading member of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Bashar Al-Assad gave Sunnis and all religious groups in Syria more freedom than his father.
Iran is poison
Saudi Arabia is a poison
Turkey is a poison
The powers that be are also poison in this conflict
Iran is poison
Saudi Arabia is a poison
Turkey is a poison
The powers that be are also poison in this conflict
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you see thats the assi river wich follows from lebanon to turkey and goes through homs and idlib provinces and ends at the mediterranean port of antakia in turkey
its called nahr al casi(the rebel) because it follows the opposite direction than the other rivers of syria, iraq and turkey
the northwest of syria is called the fertile plain ( sahl al ghab)
the syrians of this region and the coastal areas like the alawites have green eyes and they r arabs lol
alepo close to the other side of the borders with turkey has also white syrians who may have armenian origins
sahl al ghab is the greenest party of the country since its closer to europe
rest of syria r green hills except the south at the borders with jordan
very rich land indeed
this is hajiz buthayna one of the two areas in rif idlib that was liberated yesterday
next is the town ariha the last town of idlib province wich leads to the highway to latakia in the coastal alawite region
on the other hand, isis have been cleaned out yesterday from the villages near qalamoun of the qunaytira province and the the opposition has announced in there the army of conquest
rif idlib
http://www.aljazeera.net/news/arabic/20 ... 9%84%d8%a8
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http://www.aljazeera.net/news/reportsan ... 8%AD%D9%84
tartous is an alawite tourist town, the second after the countrys main port of latakia in this province
largest syrian town is aleppo followed by damascus
here is where the regime plans to move the capital to





tartous is an alawite tourist town, the second after the countrys main port of latakia in this province
largest syrian town is aleppo followed by damascus
here is where the regime plans to move the capital to




Re: the real reason why iran sopports the syrian regime

latakia


Re: the real reason why iran sopports the syrian regime
Sahal80 because of Assad who has been in power for a long time and diverted funds to Alawite homelands.
They didn't do it on their own, but money stolen from the rest of Syria.
Iran and Hezbollah are what is destabilizing Syria, if you take those two out, Syria would be peaceful.
On one side you have:
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
Egypt
Turkey
Bahrain
Sudan
US
EU
...and the International Community
On the other hand you have:
Syrian dictator
Iran
Hezbollah
Russia
Ok who is wrong in this thing? The guy needs to step down and save his country.
They didn't do it on their own, but money stolen from the rest of Syria.
Iran and Hezbollah are what is destabilizing Syria, if you take those two out, Syria would be peaceful.
On one side you have:
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
Egypt
Turkey
Bahrain
Sudan
US
EU
...and the International Community
On the other hand you have:
Syrian dictator
Iran
Hezbollah
Russia
Ok who is wrong in this thing? The guy needs to step down and save his country.
Re: the real reason why iran sopports the syrian regime
games
the difference is that it wasnt allowed this in damascus and the non coastal area except the families of the powerful men such as the army and intelligence not the common people so the poor people didnt know how they live in their own region
I think thats smart of them they were also using tourism as an excuse
as we revealed before if you read the jazira article the west doesnt allow to liberate the alawite region!!
the opposition was told to stop at idlib
this may cause division among the army of conquest
according to this article the west wants together all the alawites in their region and then deploy peacekeeping forces to protect them
protect what? after they destroyed all the sunni towns and killed half million people!
its because they r secretly christian!
the alawite woman whos married to an army officer and moved to tartous by orders from the intelligence only talks about how shes worried about her husband in the fronts not what he does lol
worst than this they want to establish their own state after 50 years of having ruled the country directly and 15 years of indirect rule as the strong men of the party and army!!
the difference is that it wasnt allowed this in damascus and the non coastal area except the families of the powerful men such as the army and intelligence not the common people so the poor people didnt know how they live in their own region
I think thats smart of them they were also using tourism as an excuse
as we revealed before if you read the jazira article the west doesnt allow to liberate the alawite region!!
the opposition was told to stop at idlib
this may cause division among the army of conquest
according to this article the west wants together all the alawites in their region and then deploy peacekeeping forces to protect them
protect what? after they destroyed all the sunni towns and killed half million people!
its because they r secretly christian!
the alawite woman whos married to an army officer and moved to tartous by orders from the intelligence only talks about how shes worried about her husband in the fronts not what he does lol
worst than this they want to establish their own state after 50 years of having ruled the country directly and 15 years of indirect rule as the strong men of the party and army!!
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Re: the real reason why iran sopports the syrian regime
It has never been about Syria or Bashar al Assad but reshaping the Middle East so that it fits American interests.
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The Alawites can cal always retreat to Latakia province and have another lebanon there.
They have plenty of land and many of them are well educated and westernized. They can basically start another country, and many of the christian and other religious minorities would move there because they are a tolerant people. Assad is basically busy setting the Sunnis back to the stone age so that they can never be threat to Latakia. Once he has achieved this goal he will retreat to Latakia province with all the weaponry, and will have Russian support because they need the Mediterranean access of Tartus.
So short sighted

They have plenty of land and many of them are well educated and westernized. They can basically start another country, and many of the christian and other religious minorities would move there because they are a tolerant people. Assad is basically busy setting the Sunnis back to the stone age so that they can never be threat to Latakia. Once he has achieved this goal he will retreat to Latakia province with all the weaponry, and will have Russian support because they need the Mediterranean access of Tartus.
Sometimes I wonder why Siyad Barre did not invest more in Kismayo, instead of building up a city where his people did not live.sahal80 wrote:french speakers alawites atleast dhulkooda waa dhisteen unlike of siyad barre!
So short sighted

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Re: the real reason why iran sopports the syrian regime
sahal80 wrote:french speakers alawites atleast dhulkooda waa dhisteen unlike of siyad barre!


Sahal are those pics from before the war or is it still like that and those areas had avoided the fighting?
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I really question the sanity of people who compare Somalia with Syria after 25 years that Somalia is stateless. In Syria, it is the business class that developed the high-rises and the tourist areas of the country, and overwhelming majority of the business class are Sunnis. Syria is also one of few places in the Muslim world where there were true renaissance. So, to compare them with Somalia is just a wishful thinking 

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If Syria (under Bashar Assad) was this Utopia and renaissance, than why was it politically isolated from the rest of the world? Even the Khaleej countries didn't want anything to do with it.gegiroor wrote:I really question the sanity of people who compare Somalia with Syria after 25 years that Somalia is stateless. In Syria, it is the business class that developed the high-rises and the tourist areas of the country, and overwhelming majority of the business class are Sunnis. Syria is also one of few places in the Muslim world where there were true renaissance. So, to compare them with Somalia is just a wishful thinking
Sxb, it basically comes down to dictatorship and one family ruling over a country for a very long time.
Udun let me ask you an honest question sxb, and if u don't want to answer it, u can tell me to Eff Off, I won't get mad.
Would you trade security for freedom? If you could rewind the clock 25yrs back and u knew what u know now...would you have let Siyaad Bare stay in power?
It's the same thing in Syria, sure the country was stable under the Assad family, but that's it. One Assad would take over from another, until Aakhiro Zaman.
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@Games,
If the clock can be turned back 25 years in Somalia, there wouldn't have been the 500,000 Somalis who have died the starvation in 1992/1993, the other 150,000 in 2011 who also died thru starvation, and over the million people who have died thru wars, high seas, and endless refugee camps all over the world. We wouldn't have our worst enemies interfering in our internal affairs and sabotaging every Somali government that is formed.
As for Syria, Syria was isolated because its central bank was not under the control of international bankers. It was the last Arab nationalist state, and it was undermined and civil war was imposed on that unfortunate country because of its support to Arab resistance groups. The so-called Khaleej are the biggest betrayers of Islam and Arabs, and they are not independent to chart their own policies toward Syria. They are indeed towing the line.
Before the imposed insurrection on Syria, the people of Syria had peace, had the highest standard of living in the area despite the limited economic means in Syria at the time, and every Syria who graduates from college had a guaranteed job and a guaranteed house. Every Syrian had access to free education from elementary to university, and had a free universal healthcare. Even Somalis who graduated from universities in Syria had been given employment within the Syrian government while the Khaleej Arab countries don't even allow Somalis to attend their universities.
The Syrian business class was dominated by Sunnis as well. This imposed insurrection on Syria has destroyed all of that. Just like Somalis, the people of Syria are destitute, they are dying in the oceans, the innocent hungry Syrian women have become prey to all sexual predators in the Middle East and in North Africa.
My approach is what the Islamic faith teaches us about situations like this, and here is my understanding: It is forbidden from Muslims to start an insurrection if the outcome of that insurrection is much worse than the current state even living under a tyrant. It is forbidden for Muslims to cause the exodus of the most vulnerable of Muslim societies - the women and children. In Syria, the Mufti of Syria, himself a Sunni, had declared the insurrection a conspiracy against the Syria and its people. He was killed thru suicide mission.
I think you got my position now on this imposed insurrection!
If the clock can be turned back 25 years in Somalia, there wouldn't have been the 500,000 Somalis who have died the starvation in 1992/1993, the other 150,000 in 2011 who also died thru starvation, and over the million people who have died thru wars, high seas, and endless refugee camps all over the world. We wouldn't have our worst enemies interfering in our internal affairs and sabotaging every Somali government that is formed.
As for Syria, Syria was isolated because its central bank was not under the control of international bankers. It was the last Arab nationalist state, and it was undermined and civil war was imposed on that unfortunate country because of its support to Arab resistance groups. The so-called Khaleej are the biggest betrayers of Islam and Arabs, and they are not independent to chart their own policies toward Syria. They are indeed towing the line.
Before the imposed insurrection on Syria, the people of Syria had peace, had the highest standard of living in the area despite the limited economic means in Syria at the time, and every Syria who graduates from college had a guaranteed job and a guaranteed house. Every Syrian had access to free education from elementary to university, and had a free universal healthcare. Even Somalis who graduated from universities in Syria had been given employment within the Syrian government while the Khaleej Arab countries don't even allow Somalis to attend their universities.
The Syrian business class was dominated by Sunnis as well. This imposed insurrection on Syria has destroyed all of that. Just like Somalis, the people of Syria are destitute, they are dying in the oceans, the innocent hungry Syrian women have become prey to all sexual predators in the Middle East and in North Africa.
My approach is what the Islamic faith teaches us about situations like this, and here is my understanding: It is forbidden from Muslims to start an insurrection if the outcome of that insurrection is much worse than the current state even living under a tyrant. It is forbidden for Muslims to cause the exodus of the most vulnerable of Muslim societies - the women and children. In Syria, the Mufti of Syria, himself a Sunni, had declared the insurrection a conspiracy against the Syria and its people. He was killed thru suicide mission.

I think you got my position now on this imposed insurrection!
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So it was an 'imposed' insurrection. That's really funny.
So the millions and millions of Egyptians, Tunisians, Libyans and others who have taken to the streets to protest their dictators were wrong?
So you are saying, Islamically, those people were wrong to fight their oppressors and they should have just accepted it?
Udun I thought you were at least a bit smarter than this, while u enjoy freedom but want to deny the same to others.

So the millions and millions of Egyptians, Tunisians, Libyans and others who have taken to the streets to protest their dictators were wrong?
So you are saying, Islamically, those people were wrong to fight their oppressors and they should have just accepted it?
Udun I thought you were at least a bit smarter than this, while u enjoy freedom but want to deny the same to others.

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Re: the real reason why iran sopports the syrian regime
Sahal, I lived in Syria, Masakin Barza for 5 years.
When I heared that a rebellion was taking place in Syria, I knew it would be nothing like Tunisia or Libya. You would understand if you knew the fear people had of the government. In jail if they knew you were part of the opposition they would mix crushed glass in your food, and you would die. The Syria regime is brutal it is more like Soviet Russia or North Korea than other Arab countries.
It is true that they were very nice to Somalis, they treated us much better than khaleej countries.
When I heared that a rebellion was taking place in Syria, I knew it would be nothing like Tunisia or Libya. You would understand if you knew the fear people had of the government. In jail if they knew you were part of the opposition they would mix crushed glass in your food, and you would die. The Syria regime is brutal it is more like Soviet Russia or North Korea than other Arab countries.
It is true that they were very nice to Somalis, they treated us much better than khaleej countries.
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