Mujahid-Imam-Sheikh Samaroon Said (Radi Allahu 'Anhu)

[mahoka]

Who lives on former Adal Sultanate territory now?

- Dir (Gadabursi, Cisse, Gurage)
- Darood ( Jidwaq, Geri, Ogaden)
- Sheikhal
- Madhibaan


Adal history belongs to those 4 groups who's current lands were controlled by the Sultanates.

No need to claim other people's history if you have none

Desperate

[MayDay777]

Desperate are the ones claiming other people's civilizations and history like AA

[Alpharabius]

Mosul?

Yes its strange most tombs are located in Maydh but it can be turned into a spiritual capital.


Ok Timiro1999 no derailment please.

Thank you.

I think northern sanaag was a place of spiritual significance for Somalis in pre islamic times. It's the place where frankincense is found , a tree that is used in religious ceremonies of many Afro Asiatic religions both pagan and Abrahamic. It is also a good candidate for the place the Egyptians called punt , the land of their ancestors and gods.

So maybe we just siwtched from worshipping our ancestors and their spirits to giving them Arabic names , a false lineage and asking for their intercession(like many sufis do) .It's just a theory though.

[gegiroor]

Stupid Half brain qurjili ,do u think this is like ur false darawiish ( terrorist group) jihad , this is a documented Islamic history, no lies and calacal going to change what is written on the original manuscript boy.

To bust ur lie in a flash

Anyone who is interested in reading the original manuscript ,it can be found at Kind Saud university online archive .

http://makhtota.ksu.edu.sa/makhtota/554/18#.V4DbeKIn6HI


and btw, imposters cant mention anything about tribal chieftain when ur shegato dofarism is exposed in the book of futuh al xabash were it was mentioned the chieftain of the marexan was hirabo ben Guita ben Theodoros ben Adam......what kind of a Muslim Somali name is this?!.

Since when some little paper some guy hand-written in a failing Saudi institution amounted to evidence? Look at the paper that the information was written on, such paper was not available 600 years ago. I am pretty sure one of your guys hand wrote it and placed it in there. I wasn't expecting you guys would've gone that far to manufacture evidence.

On a serious matter, I have no problem if Habar Magaadle was part of that jihad, but if you want us to believe that Habar Maqdi that was mentioned was Habar Magaadle, bring a reliable evidence. Perhaps, you could go to the Ottoman archives and found evidence there. Saudi Arabia is not a place where you would find a reliable, historical documentation. With the exception of Harameyn, they are just nomads like us, and nomads don't keep historical texts in place for hundreds of years. Keep in mind, when Ahmed Gurey and Muslims that were with him were waging that Jihad, they were receiving some sort of support from Ottomans. So, to claim something in that conflict, one needs to find historical documents in Ottoman's archives. You see I am giving you ideas

As for Daarood contribution, it is well-documented, and Gerri Koombe, Mareexaan, Harti, and Absame are all included in those documentations. As a matter fact, I am going to conduct a research and talk to the Daarood subclans in that neighborhood, including Bartire, Baalcad Abasame, Geri Koombe, Ogaadeen, Xarla Koombe and Jiiraan Koombe and see what they know about Habar Maqdi. There are also Harti communities who live in Baabuli, Dirir Dhabe, and in other places who are remnants of that Jihad. I will do the digging on my part and find out who these Habar Maqdi are.

Lastly, don't get emotional if people take shots at your claim

@Emperor aka Khalid Ali, I hate no one, but I take shots at people for entertainment purposes, and if they're emotional, that is even much better

[ramzy2277]

No one is getting emotional but you,quoting me twice with utter nonsense comments filled with silly smilies...!!...try to be more academic and refute the original document I presented instead of taking cheap shots,one time its a Photoshop and then it came from Badwein Saudi institute and finally it is written by an isxaaqi..

I told u ,this is not like ur fake darawish oral history,no wonder u r so hopeless and trying to belittle and discredit the origin of the document.

You talk to whomever you want, this wont change what is written in this original manuscript until you present a another original arabic manuscript written by carab faqih the author of futuh al xabasha like I did until then u can jump upside down like a monkey in a cage,like I care.

PS: who are Xarla Kombe..!!?!...r they somalis..!!....i remember reading a tribe called xarla حرلى but without kombe, from the context I understood they were not a somali, there was an incident where they had a big dispute with the somali tribes during the final stages of the jihad and the imam separated the two parties by grouping all the Somali tribes under a Somali leader and putting a non Somali leader with the xarla and another non somali tribe i forgot its know under the imam's brother leadership....dude ur history is ambiguous ,its more like a confederation than a subclans with a single blood line .

[sahal80]

Xarla were a separate ethnic group who had borders with somalis and afars and disappeared after the oromo invasion and the arrival of the semites from massawa(adari aka hadarama)

As Randy said that had problems with somalis during the jihad by blaming eachother when they lose the war so the imam has seperated them

They were native to harar, very advanced cushitic speaking tribe, they were under belawi-beja- sultan when the imam was young....i believe that harar islamic civilazation was an extension of massaw civilazation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harla_people
http://gadling.com/2011/03/29/harla-eth ... ilization/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Qita%27a

[gurey25]

Xarla were a separate ethnic group who had borders with somalis and afars and disappeared after the oromo invasion and the arrival of the semites from massawa(adari aka hadarama)

As Randy said that had problems with somalis during the jihad by blaming eachother when they lose the war so the imam has seperated them

They were native to harar, very advanced cushitic speaking tribe, they were under belawi-beja- sultan when the imam was young....i believe that harar islamic civilazation was an extension of massaw civilazation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harla_people
http://gadling.com/2011/03/29/harla-eth ... ilization/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Qita%27a

I agree, it is very clear that there are shared traditions between people of massawa especially jabarti muslims, in dress and language and hararis.
It seems the xarla adopted harari semetic langauge, and assimilated into somali and canfar clans by the time of the Oromo expansions 1560's.


and as for this debate, i see it as a draw.
Rooble worked so hard and brought a very convincing theory, it would have been a straight victory if the arabic text did not say magadle.
The sources from gaal like pankurst etc, are not very usefull because of their very poor arabic language skills,
any native arabic speaker will see that the original text says magaadle not magdi.

So its an even draw between geneology, and location of the makadoor claim, and the original arabic text saying magaadle.

[geesihanad2]

Taariikhda meelnaba kagama jirto samaroon baa sheekh ahaa hhhhhh

[geesihanad2]

hhhhhhhhhhh Gadabiirsi taariikh raadis ah
Ma maantay keeneen in ay habar magaadi bedelaan
Hhhhhhh dadku yaanay idinla yaabin taariikhdu way qoran tahee ma sidaas baad bilaa taariikh utihiin