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AbdiWahab252 wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:01 pm Xplaya is right. I told the idiots in Xamar to revert to the original name of the country: The Somali Republic not some bullshit Federal Republic of Somalia which implies Konfur.

the official names were always "Somali" until the collapse of the regime: 1960-69 Somali Republic, 1969-91 Somali Democratic Republic
Do you think they don't remember the old unitarian republic's official name? They know exactly what they are doing and that is to utterly erase Somaliland history from memory by monopolizing all power, having a Daarood and hawiye share all the power and reducing isaaq to a sub clan of Dir and yet cry for unity.

Your Hawiye are particularly responsible for the successes of Daarood politics in the south. Literally they implemented everything they wanted even the 4.5 formula and 2.5 federal requirement ( its a majeerteen formula half of mudug plus nugaal and waqooyi bari) .

The Hawiye brain is a strange useless muscle.
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sahal80 wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:03 pm
X.Playa wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:03 am
sahal80 wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:05 am kk as far i know you dont share border with issa there is gadabursi between you how could you form the majority in djibouti or your taking the french account of deporting "foreign somalis" could be isaaqs among them im not denying that but the main target was the ciise somalis. ciise had arrived in diredawe as a result of deportation.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=NZa ... is&f=false



https://d1zfca9r0ctlm4.cloudfront.net/1 ... UYWFSF3MFA


Khatumo and SLs agreeent is about a new shared political entity they dont agree the name so they will introduce a new name. here is faysal waraabe confirming it

"Faysal Cali Waraabe oo ku dhawaaqay In Magaca Somaliland la balayo
YouTube - 17‏/06‏/2017"
Faysal Cali Waraabe can throw in his crazy outburst but he neither SL president nor a king of isaaq. The name SL will never change.
Alii khalif fully trusts SL i dont know if all this will be implemented bc we have seen some changes this is why dr ali isse stopped supporting him after the addis and djibouti meetings. addis agreement in himilo link mentions the SL troops in the eastern areas to pave the way for decentralization but now he asks them to stay for fear of PL invasion!

no one knows if these talks with khatumo will be succesful bc you got now farmaajo who sounds like he is part of the problem bc his mother is dhulbahante. the only card he can deploy it is to incite the elders against ali khalif and reaching out some patrties

unlike of Garguurte and Sharif this guy does not recognize SL as a govt and talks to "youth and elders" also misquotes from Egal and dictates a unity!

for this reason you may have some chance to accelerate some sort of solution like keeping SL together away from the federal process

So the US who has now an ambassador is aware of these contacts between SL and khatumo and they dont like the SFG to disturb it so as a condition for a better settlement for SL it must sort out with khatumo. they used to threaten with cutting the USAID when SL attacked ali khalif in saaxdheer now the head of this agency was with the ambassador to hargeysa.

US see there is a little gap between the two sides so he should focus more on the south while they r paying close attention to your process. wixii macquul ah aad markaas miiska la timaadaan including khatumo and awdal aa la idin ogolaanaa.

http://himilomedia.com/akhri-qodobada-h ... -khaatumo/
dude have you not seen him say "Somaliland"? When he was new all he said was "ours brothers and sisters in the north" But now he reconizes Somaliland since he calls it Somaliland.
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X.Playa wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:13 pm There is a huge gap. In fact SL and Daarood will never agree on anything at all. The Daarood are motivated by a Machiavellian politics where their behind the scene schemers religiously believe they can outsmart both hawiye and isaaq and have 4 president. One in Xamar masquerading as a federal president and the other three one in puntland and jubland and one within SL.

These so called talks are a Trojan horse, where northern Daarood under the pretext of peace and reconciliation are trying to do the following:

since they gave up on destroying SL through military means and political means ( using a fake unity cry to sway non Daarood opinion ). Now they are implementing plane B, where they are negotiating to covertly great a state within a state by having SL recognize their kastuumo state, flag, parliament and their autonomuse albeit practically independent state by SL. In addition they want to dislodge SL military by the means of negotiations claiming since now they are part of SL there is no need for an occupying SL force. Also they want to have their share in SL central government while been completely independent of it just like the southern Daarood sharing Moqdisho power while having all Daarood enclaves independent.

I don't think the isaaq population will accept that outright obvious destruction of SL. Changing the name flag and constitution of SL is also in their plan to basically neutralize isaaq/Gedabursi majority through agreement under a fake peace negotiations.

The isaaq politicians might belly dance for them as usual but the core of the thinking isaaq know well their ultimate main objective which is to destroy Somaliland using soft power( negotiation) . Faysal a talking head dimwit can yelp all he wants, reality is we know where this game is going.

These talks are useless and it will never be accepted. If SL accept it might as well burn SL to the ground and commit mass suicides.
kkk waala is gaadooyaa miyaa? thanks for explaining but the point is about barnaamij cusub oo lagadaayo. "isaaqland" dhulkey soo taabatey. there is samatar who sees 18 may an SNM day and now ali khalif so thats their conditions. once you reach such agreement you will be able to sell the project in a new garment. the north will be seen as one now there is disputed areas, PL, 4.5

western circles r backing this option for SL they r waiting for "one SL"



i dont think they want to be like the southren regions but they want "proper representation" Plus decentralization and a new constitution,, more like changing somalilands political structure

for example warabe and khalif want to form an eastern bloc. warabe and cirro bases r reer miyi and "the elections happen deliberatly after they move to ethiopia" so having khatumo bases they r hoping to win.
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I don't think you took any of my points. You just read your talking points.

Samatar or Galaydh demands will never be accepted because as I have explained to you what they want is a state within a state and SL will have non of it.
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X.Playa wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:05 pm I don't think you took any of my points. You just read your talking points.

Samatar or Galaydh demands will never be accepted because as I have explained to you what they want is a state within a state and SL will have non of it.
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