Southerners perspective on Somaliland

[Futurist]

How do reer Somalia see this stalemate between SL and Somalia ending?

Fiiri SL is not coming back by force. So how would reer Somalia like to resolve it. Gorrmaa sii deeyni Somaliland oo joojini xasadnimoda?

Soo daaya sheekada

[Sharmarke91]

How do reer Somalia see this stalemate between SL and Somalia ending?

Fiiri SL is not coming back by force. So how would reer Somalia like to resolve it. Gorrmaa sii deeyni Somaliland oo joojini xasadnimoda?

Soo daaya sheekada

The Somali government should allow for the deal between Somaliland and DP World to go ahead.

This is such a vital investment for Somaliland and for the Somali peninsula, hindering it would not only thwart this opportunity but it would also create animosity and hatred between the people.

We can't reconcile our difference this way.

However, the military base is an entirely different matter.

Its a clear infringement on Somalia's territorial sovereignty by the UAE and a declaration of war! since this would be an act of war. Hence, failing all diplomatic efforts, the Somali government should take the matter to the International Court of Justice and the United Nations.

[Advo]

Let’s negotiate and It will happen under these circumstances:

1) agree to take the 5 billion dollar debt with u
2) all areas settled by non Issaqs comes under Somalia, absolutely no debate on that. Awdal becomes somalias Alaska.
3) advo is mentioned in SL history books as a great hero who made the deal possible (all negative comments prior to the deal is erased and never mentioned).


Deal or no deal?

[Talo alle udaa]

Let’s negotiate and It will happen under these circumstances:

1) agree to take the 5 billion dollar debt with u
2) all areas settled by non Issaqs comes under Somalia, absolutely no debate on that. Awdal becomes somalias Alaska.
3) advo is mentioned in SL history books as a great hero who made the deal possible (all negative comments prior to the deal is erased and never mentioned).


Deal or no deal?

Your assumptions are non-Isaaq want to be part of Somalia which may not necessarily be the case. A reasonable way to settle this would be a referendum and let every group choose it's future.

[Advo]

Let’s negotiate and It will happen under these circumstances:

1) agree to take the 5 billion dollar debt with u
2) all areas settled by non Issaqs comes under Somalia, absolutely no debate on that. Awdal becomes somalias Alaska.
3) advo is mentioned in SL history books as a great hero who made the deal possible (all negative comments prior to the deal is erased and never mentioned).


Deal or no deal?

Your assumptions are non-Isaaq want to be part of Somalia which may not necessarily be the case. A reasonable way to settle this would be a referendum and let every group choose it's future.

So how would the referendum work again? And who will and will not be allowed to take part? Sorry man but Somalia ain’t gonna be split in to 30 different qabiil countries. That’s just nonsense.

[Khalid Ali]

Simple you stay inSomalia and with your Uganda.
We keep our Somaliland we build a big wall between our borders like the Israeli Palestinian border.

Lakumdinakum waliyaadiin

[Futurist]

Let’s negotiate and It will happen under these circumstances:

1) agree to take the 5 billion dollar debt with u
2) all areas settled by non Issaqs comes under Somalia, absolutely no debate on that. Awdal becomes somalias Alaska.
3) advo is mentioned in SL history books as a great hero who made the deal possible (all negative comments prior to the deal is erased and never mentioned).

Deal or no deal?

No deal. Whats your 2nd offer?

[Tycoon5647]

How do reer Somalia see this stalemate between SL and Somalia ending?

Fiiri SL is not coming back by force. So how would reer Somalia like to resolve it. Gorrmaa sii deeyni Somaliland oo joojini xasadnimoda?

Soo daaya sheekada

We in Somaliland would have the upper hand in negotiations. It would go like this:

1). No more Federal Somalia back to The Somali republic.
2). The Somali republic in the first 16 years will only consist of Isaaq and Dir Presidents and vice presidents. (The reason because the other clans are too dysfunctional and they would put the Republic at risk)
3). Somaliland will still exist as it's own country like Scotland, England etc,
4). No more jubbaland or puntland etc, only Somaliland and southern Somali territories as (Somali republic)
5). Somaliland will forever and always be 50% of Members of the Cabinet seats.
6). At the beginning of the New Somali republic the capital will be moved somewhere in the north because of the dysfunction of the south and thus peace will start in the north and move down city by city to south end of the country.

[Tycoon5647]

Let’s negotiate and It will happen under these circumstances:

1) agree to take the 5 billion dollar debt with u
2) all areas settled by non Issaqs comes under Somalia, absolutely no debate on that. Awdal becomes somalias Alaska.
3) advo is mentioned in SL history books as a great hero who made the deal possible (all negative comments prior to the deal is erased and never mentioned).


Deal or no deal?

We in Somaliland would have the upper hand in negotiations. It would go like this:

1). No more Federal Somalia back to The Somali republic.
2). The Somali republic in the first 16 years will only consist of Isaaq and Dir Presidents and vice presidents. (The reason because the other clans are too dysfunctional and they would put the Republic at risk)
3). Somaliland will still exist as it's own country like Scotland, England etc,
4). No more jubbaland or puntland etc, only Somaliland and southern Somali territories as (Somali republic)
5). Somaliland will forever and always be 50% of Members of the Cabinet seats.
6). At the beginning of the New Somali republic the capital will be moved somewhere in the north because of the dysfunction of the south and thus peace will start in the north and move down city by city to south end of the country.

[theyuusuf143]

Let’s negotiate and It will happen under these circumstances:

1) agree to take the 5 billion dollar debt with u
2) all areas settled by non Issaqs comes under Somalia, absolutely no debate on that. Awdal becomes somalias Alaska.
3) advo is mentioned in SL history books as a great hero who made the deal possible (all negative comments prior to the deal is erased and never mentioned).


Deal or no deal?

Your assumptions are non-Isaaq want to be part of Somalia which may not necessarily be the case. A reasonable way to settle this would be a referendum and let every group choose it's future.

Non isaaqs may some times challenge isaaqs but I don't believe they will fall for Somalia if they have to decide their fate . No body likes Somalia . Referendum is good but their is certain types of referendum that we will never accept. For example we won't accept a referendum that's exclusively designed for special regions/clans within our country . Somaliland is a very centralized society we live and prosper together or we die together. Our government will make sure to destroy or greatly damage Somalia's self entitled Rights over Somaliland. We will do everything to show the world that Somalia is died and can't do a shit.

[Nomand]

referendum based on each province in somaliland a clear majority will be needed to separate. so 60% have to vote to leave for that province to join somaliland.

somaliland will also take half of all of Somalia's national debt. and all somaliland business that are in somalia must be closed down starting with dahabshiil.

4.5 will need to changed to 3.5 in the meanwhile. all properties owned by somalilanders in somalia must be sold within 5 years for a fair price.

if a somalilander seen after 9pm in somalia can be lawfully enslaved and named changed to tooby or kunta kinta henceforth

ok last one was a joke

[Khalid Ali]

Koonfurians opinion is not important they can focus on their amiom Ugandan bunker administration . Jawaari vs kheyrlaawe. Ilmagoita theodrus vs kab iyo xaar. Failmaajio and the fake murursade alliance lets how see long that is gonna last you have lost ilma jabarti iidoor won

Somaliland has won the war it's over guys no more Somalia Somaliland talks.

Mamlakatil afriqyal hashimiya wal jacfariya
Mamlakatil sacuudiyal carabiya
Mamlakatil ardul xabashi itoobiya

Darood amisom Burundi gaalki keith Uganda kikiuyu Bantu zunjuj saabaxili are all defeated.


Sadaat nations sons of bitches.

Rasklaaaatt indhandhi asss. Mana rude mana

[zidane88]

I have said it many times before, and will say it again the Somali unity is impossible and untenable. Let every Group/clans/neighbours decide their fate as they agreed between themselves, going in circles for 28 years without any progress is fruitless. Unifying Somalia right now is like bringing together wild tigers, lions, wolves,, and domestic cows, sheep, and cows in one stable. Impossible.

[X.Playa]

referendum based on each province in somaliland a clear majority will be needed to separate. so 60% have to vote to leave for that province to join somaliland.

somaliland will also take half of all of Somalia's national debt. and all somaliland business that are in somalia must be closed down starting with dahabshiil.

4.5 will need to changed to 3.5 in the meanwhile. all properties owned by somalilanders in somalia must be sold within 5 years for a fair price.

if a somalilander seen after 9pm in somalia can be lawfully enslaved and named changed to tooby or kunta kinta henceforth

ok last one was a joke

If you believe your Afweyne faqash loyalist are the majority why cherry pick a referendum?

A clan based referendum is unacceptable and no territo6of SL will be relinquished because some faqash wants it. If they want Somalia we will transport them to Somalia but the land stays in SL.

The rest of your Daarood vomit is unworthy to address.

[Nomand]

referendum based on each province in somaliland a clear majority will be needed to separate. so 60% have to vote to leave for that province to join somaliland.

somaliland will also take half of all of Somalia's national debt. and all somaliland business that are in somalia must be closed down starting with dahabshiil.

4.5 will need to changed to 3.5 in the meanwhile. all properties owned by somalilanders in somalia must be sold within 5 years for a fair price.

if a somalilander seen after 9pm in somalia can be lawfully enslaved and named changed to tooby or kunta kinta henceforth

ok last one was a joke

If you believe your Afweyne faqash loyalist are the majority why cherry pick a referendum?

A clan based referendum is unacceptable and no territo6of SL will be relinquished because some faqash wants it. If they want Somalia we will transport them to Somalia but the land stays in SL.

The rest of your Daarood vomit is unworthy to address.

30 years and no recognition,

Recognition comes from villa Somalia and if you want recognition then the terms will be very close to that one i said. or wait another 30 years but by that time Somalia will be great again and you guys will come running to us.

either way the decision is not yours to make but it is villa Somalia.