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Murax wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:43 pm
MrSinister wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:37 pm Gubbet,

You and I must have a different definition of pride. Is there any pride in forcing an extension, attacking the opposition, causing the fragmentation of SNA along clan lines, having to go back on an extension after being militarily defeated in the capital and then having PM takeover the election process and being treated as no different than any other candidate. No amount of ‘diagrams’ riddled with spelling errors is going to change that reality.

This agreement has recognized Madoobe and his government as the legitimate authority in Jubbaland. That is a fact.

Listen to your Adeer from 1:01

The Guddi for Gedo is Gedo driven, with Farmaajo driving it, and no matter what they’ll vote for Farmaajo. Madoobe begged and said you name, I will just formally name. Again I’m quoting your Adeer not me.


Are we cruel? I think I was underestimating when I said;

"It is like we MONOPOLIZED all the pride to such an extent you guys are like a battered, abused domestic violence victim or something."
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Gubbet,

People don’t understand MX dhaqan. We have no secrets, every MX MP, Elder, etc in Gedo will support Farmaajo regardless even the biggest enemies a la Deni acknowledge it, but not these cyber forumers I guess. I’m not even celebrating this I wish Somalis voted only in the issues but it’s simple reality. :lol:
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You want to know what my Sacad/rer Hiloowle told me?

He said you guys are the only clan we fear. But all the clans that fear us, don't---even the ones that neighbor you. But they kniw never to stand in your way.

Wallahi that is what he said and he explained "He said that is why you are the least understood and the most constantly surprising clan. Because you are more complex than any other Somali clan

He said " your vengeance is legendary, but you are not a bully. You are tolerant, but your fury is 2X all thr other Somalis combined"

Farmaajo sort of describes Marehan. He is a four eyed, likeable, decent seeming guy who is not hateful or cold, but heaven can't bend that man's spine when he feels angry or vengeful or feels slighted.

Within the blink of an eyelid, they went from haaah, jees jees to cold, sweating fear and absolute horror on Feb 8th and 19th. I literally think a psychological on dread can be written on the change that occured INFRONT of our eyes between February 7 and after.

That's Marehan
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Murax wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:26 pm MrSinister,

That’s your perspective. Another perspective is from the day they took office to the signing ceremony 3 regional Presidents, and the Prime Minister gracefully referred to the sitting President. So let’s define what you mean by ‘Federalism won’ which in your mind means Deni, Madoobe. Their objective no matter how much you put your head in the sand was a abrupt resignation of Farmaajo that precludes him from even running a la AY in 2009. That definition of ‘Federalism’ of yours failed. That said I agree until there is a completed election it’s too early for anybody inclusive N&N fans to take a victory lap.
The difference is Abdullahi Yusuf saw the writing on the wall and for the sake of peace resigned. Farmaajo forced an extension, then went on national tv and said there is no going back and was then defeated in the capital. Imagine Ceasar after crossing the rubicon, lost the first battle and was like ‘I was just kidding’.

Farmaajo was removed from the election process. This is something he vehemently opposed in the past. Everything he wanted was rejected. The opposition were part of the elections negotiations. Madoobe will have control Jubbaland and the donors deal with him directly.

Your sides fate depends on Rooble being allied with you which is not guaranteed as he has shown himself to be neutral.

Only time will tell, but his political career is over through his own misguided and dangerous action.
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Murax wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:54 pm Gubbet,

People don’t understand MX dhaqan. We have no secrets, every MX MP, Elder, etc in Gedo will support Farmaajo regardless even the biggest enemies a la Deni acknowledge it, but not these cyber forumers I guess. I’m not even celebrating this I wish Somalis voted only in the issues but it’s simple reality. :lol:
If this was true, you guys wouldn’t be complaining about Fartaag etc. Money talks and Madoobe can easily appoint MX that favour him.
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The difference is Abdullahi Yusuf was an old, tired, soldier who might as well be reet baadiye to the intrigue played against him.

Farmaajo is a young, savvy, American experienced in 1st world political chess games in the middle of a 4th world, backward, pre-checkers game system.
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Gubbet wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:01 pm You want to know what my Sacad/rer Hiloowle told me?

He said you guys are the only clan we fear. But all the clans that fear us, don't---even the ones that neighbor you. But they kniw never to stand in your way.

Wallahi that is what he said and he explained "He said that is why you are the least understood and the most constantly surprising clan. Because you are more complex than any other Somali clan

He said " your vengeance is legendary, but you are not a bully. You are tolerant, but your fury is 2X all thr other Somalis combined"

Farmaajo sort of describes Marehan. He is a four eyed, likeable, decent seeming guy who is not hateful or cold, but heaven can't bend that man's spine when he feels angry or vengeful or feels slighted.

Within the blink of an eyelid, they went from haaah, jees jees to cold, sweating fear and absolute horror on Feb 8th and 19th. I literally think a psychological on dread can be written on the change that occured INFRONT of our eyes between February 7 and after.

That's Marehan
:usure:


Bruh is deji yaah. Only my abgaal clan brought in atleast 100 technicals just like that. Tell me any qabiil that can do that. Absolute horror kulaha waa is cajabisay.

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Gubbet wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:41 pm The difference is Abdullahi Yusuf was an old, tired, soldier who might as well be reet baadiye to the intrigue played against him.

Farmaajo is a young, savvy, American experienced in 1st world political chess games in the middle of a 4th world, backward, pre-checkers game system.
Have you heard the phrase the simplest explanation is the best.

Simple explanation: Farmaajo had no interest in an election where the FMS controlled the process and he forced an extension as a power grab. He was defeated and was forced to come back to the negotiating table.

Convoluted explanation: farmaajo didn’t want an extension to begin with. He would go on national tv an proclaim the people’s house have made a decision. He created a devious plan with Sadaq John as a double agent to defect. He would attack the opposition candidates. He also wanted the SNA allied with his opposition to take over the capital and his forces to be defeated. Once he was defeated, he would first claim he doesn’t want foreign intervention then go to the African Union and ask for a mediator. He would then reject the appointed mediator. He would finally allow the pm to take over the election process and negotiate with the opposition. He would be treated like any other candidate and he would apologize. This is the outcome he wanted to begin with? Crazy
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MrSinister wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:09 pm Farmaajo had no interest in an election
You are walking fake news, Nomand.

January 10, 2021
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That is all there is to it.

I hate to be rude, but just shut up, please. Just shut up. We have heard all the fake news we can hear from you.

Abkoow,

It is beyond time you realize Abgaal as a clan was irrelevant to all of this.

It was just some bad political actors being used as political pawns by two spoilers and the spoil to prevent elections is over.
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Gubbet wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:41 pm The difference is Abdullahi Yusuf was an old, tired, soldier who might as well be reer baadiye to the intrigue played against him.

Farmaajo is a young, savvy, American experienced in 1st world political chess games in the middle of a 4th world, backward, pre-checkers game system.

Bingo :wow:
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Perhaps the failed extension was a ploy to invent a crisis that would enable FGS to finally get Madoobe and co on board so they could stop obstructing elections. None of their demands have been met remember how they said That Fahad Yasiin, Biixi and Odawaa must resign? Remember how they said Farmaajo must sign into law delimitation of power? Remember how they demanded Gedo have SNA completely removed?

All of these demands went out the window. Perhaps Farmaajo grand plan is working
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grandpakhalif wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 1:29 am Perhaps the failed extension was a ploy to invent a crisis that would enable FGS to finally get Madoobe and co on board so they could stop obstructing elections. None of their demands have been met remember how they said That Fahad Yasiin, Biixi and Odawaa must resign? Remember how they said Farmaajo must sign into law delimitation of power? Remember how they demanded Gedo have SNA completely removed?

All of these demands went out the window. Perhaps Farmaajo grand plan is working
Grandpa where have you been? Saddam, can you pls get this guy and fill him in even if you got to bump some old topics uo because I literally don't even want to anymore, I might have more of them angry at me :lol:
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What the heck. Here is my topic on the day the extension was voted in Parliament, Grandpa

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=402755
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Gubbet wrote: What the heck. Here is my topic on the day the extension was voted in Parliament, Grandpa

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=402755
Gubbet wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 2:56 am
grandpakhalif wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 1:29 am Perhaps the failed extension was a ploy to invent a crisis that would enable FGS to finally get Madoobe and co on board so they could stop obstructing elections. None of their demands have been met remember how they said That Fahad Yasiin, Biixi and Odawaa must resign? Remember how they said Farmaajo must sign into law delimitation of power? Remember how they demanded Gedo have SNA completely removed?

All of these demands went out the window. Perhaps Farmaajo grand plan is working
Grandpa where have you been? Saddam, can you pls get this guy and fill him in even if you got to bump some old topics uo because I literally don't even want to anymore, I might have more of them angry at me :lol:
War ninki waaya aragsana while we all reacted emotionally you knew this was a game of switch and bait. Gacan ban kuu tagay sxb you knew the end result was to get to elections. Farmaajo is playing chess while these we were playing checkers. Your sources must be very good or you are a wizard :shock:
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Between Saddam and I, I think we probably have broken more stories about Somali national Politics informing what is about to happen more than I think any other source on the world wide web
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