Hirshabelle proves that all FMS need Gentleman's Agreement for clans and provinces!

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

WadannigaBarakaysan,

Your statement ‘You believe Farmaamo’w demise is intertwined with Abgal’s defeat in HiirShabelle powersharing’.

This is what I detected years ago from Sahal, but ofcourse he won’t admit it. Funny thing is by saying that he is basically admitting his inferior position in HiirShabeele and that he needs unrelated external events to happen in order to achieve his much sought after ‘Gentlemens agreement’. If you really believe Xawaadle are the dominant power there, you shouldn’t give a damn which clan is president. Btw can we please stop using that phrase? It’s actually a good phrase that Sahal ruined to describe bullshyt that doesn’t exist. Is there a really was a ‘gentlemen’s agreement’ between Abgal:Xawawaadle there would have been condemnation of Guudlaawe from the Mudulood Imam, Odayaal dhaqameed, Shariif, Culusow but nobody said a peep. There is No friggin ‘gentlemen agreement’ stop

You're right. There is no such thing as "Gentleman's Agreement." Abgaal are all onboard with dominating Hirshabelle for the next 1,000 years. It's like the Abgaal Reich. Xawaadle have been check-mated a few years back.

Jowhar (Abgaal city) is Hirshabelle's capital: check
Hirshabelle's presidency belongs to Abgaal: check
Hirshabelle's heavyweight ministers all going to Abgaal: check
Sizable Abgaal population expanding into Beledwayn: check
Abgaal never allowing Xawaadle to be elected as President or Prime Minister in the Federal Government: check

[sahal80]

Murax wuxuu nagu xasdayaa xoriyadan aysan mx heesan.

Guudlaawe oo rabay inuu magaalada isaga cararo intay SEIT oo dabageed la safan ku dhawaaqin kuraasta taas oo keeni karta isku dhac ayuu Dabageed u diiday inuu baxo asagoo leh ila joog intaan ku dhawaaqayo ciidamo itoobiyaan ah baa banaanka taagan oo galbin lahaa. wax isku dhaw ma nihin.

Car SEIT JL isticmaala dabageed wuxuu heestaa madax SEIT oo hiiraan ka soo jeeda oo waare magacaabey. isla systemkii waare ayaa shaqeynaya ha ahaadaan gudoomiye, wasiiro iyo SEIT markaasuu leeyahay nama xukumi kartid hadaaba ku hoos jirtaa

i cant wait until Baladweyne becomes Caasimada ar jowhar noo celiya aa soo socota "mooye habeen iyo marti Xawaadle xili xun bay dhawaaqaan"








https://fb.watch/bEeKxRnTOi/


itoobiyaan wadada airporka u xirey Guudlaawe oo banaanka magaalada ah

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mid Gaaljecel ah oo kabaha u qaada guudlaawe asagoo shaqo rasmi heyn. sidee ku dhacdey in safarka guudlaawe baaqdo ayadoo itoobiyaankii galbin lahaa wadada u taagan yihiin?


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"Horan u dhahnay Xawadle Nin Xawadle ah mamuli waye lafahada haku haligin"
"Sax waye Wana no Xernana Ila Amar Dabe"

[Murax]

Sahal,

Separate matters. Why the hell do you think I’d root for one over the other in a HirShabeele that has nothing to do with me? You really think I’m going to wear pompoms cheering for Mudulood because I disagreed with you on the Internet?!


Speaking as Muslim/Soomali I hope Somali dhan midow.

[sahal80]

huuhaa miskiin Golfyare oo ka soo xiganayo maxamed shiine canug aan shaqo ka heyn hirshabelle oon hadaayoow soo geliyay saas miyaa ceebta guudlaawe ku asturee. safarka guudlaawe shaley baa la shaaciyay waxaa kaloo u daliil ah itoobiyaanka wadada dhooban


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"Guudlaawe waa la xiray waliba dabageed feer ayuu madaxa kala dhacay oo waa dhaawac sheekadii groupyada tolka maa noola imaatay anagii maa nooga waramee gurigeenii aryaa "


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"Sarkaalkaas mohamed shiine haduusan aheyn ilaa Cali guudlaawe hadlo ma aamineyno ee Xabsiga ha iskaaga jiryo"






Dabageed sources saying safarkii waa baaqdey kadib markii aan isfahan gaarnay golfyarana wuxuu lee yahay safar maba jirin
Madaxa SEIT oo Dabageed la safan uu badali rabay kadib markuu Jowhar tago



btw im not with Dabageed im against his boob and want our mucaarad to be elected wich will happen inshallah guudlaawe or without Guudlaawe. my whole point is mukulaal minankeeda Joogta mici libaax bay leedahay

hadii aysan qabiilada iyo gobolada saan wax u qeybsan there will not be checks and balances.


Goobjoog oo warkii ka saartey markii taageerayaasha guudlaawe ee ku cidka ah unlike badan saareen

[Amin5457]

dockayeerkaan Amiin la dhahaayo fiiri war ani Abgaal ma heesto waxaan ka hadlayaa hirshabelle powersharing. waxaa leedahay hawadle ima xukumi karo ironically Hawadle appointed all the current governor of middle shabelle and the mayors of jowhar and balcad when Guudlaawe cant appoint a goveronr for Hiiraan due to his situation the admin recognized him but he cant change Jeyte. his cabinet is the same appointed by waare nothing has changed so cagodhigo maandhow

Xataa dabageed kuma dhoco Cali Jeyte. madaxweyne ciise wax qeybsi ayaga waa kala madax banaanyihiin ayagoo hal maamul ah oo isku karsan. Sanbaloolshe iyo Dabageed waa hassan muuse saas uu ugu dhagan yahay maadama isku idayaal yihiin laakiin Cali Jeyte iyo Goodax kuma dhaco waa odayal kale hawadlana odayaal baa maamula. meelna ku qoro Goodax waa soo baxayaa asagoo cid walbe ka soo horjeeda including guudlaawe he called him reer baadiye iyo fahad iyo farmaajo.

lastly intee igala qabsatey Abgaal ma heesto adiga dartaana uma xumeynayo waxaan ka hadlaa hirshabelle wax qeybsi si furan as long heshiis lagu socdo im not against Guudlaawe being president. intaas aan uga baxay.

Jowhar Abgaal iyo hawadle isku mar ay imaadeen shaqo ay u soo doonteen warshadihii talyaaniga xildhibaanadii ay qaateen xiligii talyaaniga wax deegaan waxaa ku ahaa gaaljecel iyo jareer Sh hasaan barsane Jihad in Jowhar is well known

talyaaniga markey wadada dhiseen Xawaadle ayaa ku soo fidey kadibna wuxuu u baxay galbeedka Jowhar ee fog sida dhurweyle. gaaljecel waxaa u soi harey bas koonfurta Jowhar ilaa qalimoow oo moobileen osman ka bilaabanayo 30km from balacad

Aw Geedi Jowhar governor for over a decade oo xawaadle bas shaqaaleen jiray is another factor waana dhaxleen xiligii USC and in the administration till 2000 when mahamed dheere arrived. Hawadle strategy has changhed after their clash with HG as they became allied with Abgaal there they left Jowhar admin for them they have the best hotels in Jowhar and have autonomy in their side all the security is from them unlike of Gaaljecel where the security is Abgaal. dugoomiye ku xigeenka amnigana us hawadle

Abgaal waxey degaan bariga wabiga bal adiga fiiri ma u dhawyihin laamiga? mahadaay laamiga kuma taala waxaa aad jid cad ka baxa. mahadaay iyo jowhar waxaa u dhaxeeya deegaano badan oo xawaadle ooy ugu weyntahay buurane. airportka jowhar maxaa loogu safraa hal saac asagoo 17 km u jira Jowhar? laamigaga maaha wuxuu u dhaxeeyaa tuulo jareer ah iyo tuulo xawaadle ah dhanka galbeedka wabiga. abgaal uma dhawa waa bariga wabiga airportkana waa galbeedka. intaas cashar hakuu noqoto hadaadan rumeysana ii sheeg tigid baan kuu jari geeley Xawaadle ah ayaa saacadaha kaa furan hadaad marti laamiga jowhar ka baxa



mapkaan baro baxar jareeraa noo dhaxeeya bariga wabigaa xigtaa




waa kuwaan tuulooyinka min Jowhar ilaa hiiraan ee hawadle


highway going through hawadle. airport should be here 4km from Jowhar but mohamed dheere was a avoiding hawadle who had isbaaro in buurane and built it next to the jareer at where it reads shiidle next to abdallah salaads name. look A bgaal baxar jareer ah baa noo dhaxeeya oo dagaalyahano ah iskuma dhawin xataa they r allied with Hawadle against Abgaal. they r at war with Abgaal but at peace with Hawadle. laamiga koonfurta Jowhar Gaaljecel that why Guudlaawe cant go to Balcad by land



isbaarist Guudlaawe since beeshiisa laamiga Jowhar heesan wadadaan uu u dhisi la yahay ay ku safraan 17km from Jowhar takes more than 1 hour to reach Jowhar not sure but they say warsangali Abgaal ganacsato relatives of Guudlaawe took qandaraaska mana dhisin

Ya ahki waffle all you want. Truth is there are a small community of xl in one pocket circle northwest of jowhar that’s it. We still politically and number wise dominant you in middle shabelle. And mudulood as a whole dominates you in hirshabelle. You know XL lineage wise is on par with hiraab let alone mudulood. We have ciise mudulood living with you in hiraan as well.

[sahal80]

Niyahow fahankaaga maa yar? Middle shabelle iyo Jowhar kala saar middle shabelle have abgaal majirity Jowhar has jareer majority its gudoomiye is Jareer its mayor is moobileen.

i said Jowhar is like Ceerigaabo where all Gaaljecel Abgaal and Hawadle meet dhaxdana waxaa ugu jira jareer

Hawadle side is more important wuxuu ku xiranyahay hiiraan waxaa mara abgaalka u socda magadaay oo jid cad ku keexda waxaa ka ag dhaw airpirtka Jowhar oo ku yaal Reer ciyoow vicinity iyo beerahooda ay jareerta u dhaqaan


this is wadada Jowhar airport with a jareer works for Reer ciyoow hawadle the richest family in Jowhar who also own its biggest hotel the hotel Safa oo hirshabelle shirarka ku qabato. wadadaan ayagaa dhiseen xiligii maxamed dheere oo qandaraas ku siiyay



these are geela hawadle in Dhaifo near the airport


international reer ciyow

[Sbashi]

XL and dabageed have balls i will give them that. They arrested the whole president . Unbelievable ! Dabageed is going places, he is king in his house.

Big celebrations today by XL they have been patient and they got something out of it. Anyways guul dabageed noolow.

[sahal80]

Jowhar explained

Jowhar waxaa ka talin jiray Xawaadle waligeed ilaa xiligii talyaaniga ilaa before 2000 markuu maxamed dheere qabsadey. USC hawadle took over the adminstration after its Governor joined them. adminstarion is based in Horseed neighbourhood with the majority of Shiidoe ahd Arab population besides kulmis neighbourhood. Abgaal are majority in on neighbourhood in the east far from the center and laamiga these Abgaals are maxamed muuse wacbuudhan who were not against Hawadle adminstaration. After having Ceelmacaan port for 10 years due to Xamar port being closed, The warsangali harti abgaal Salafis like Abuukar xaaji cadaani, Bashiir Raage, Abdulkadir Osoble funded Mohamed Dheere war on Hawadle in Jowhar with the Saudi aid money and the money from the port. that is how Jowhar became Abgaal in 2000


Hawadle families in Jowhar became very rich and have alot of farms that jareer look after them like reer ciyow iyo reer camalow waligeed ilaa xiligii talyaaniga

This is "Jowhar Hawadle aabo" Before maxamed Dheere. imaging having ceyr daris replaced by Sacad? This what happened in Jowhar. warsangale abgaal are from between warshiikh and cadale they brought in Agoonyar from mahadaay to help them and Hawadle focused on Baladweyne



Reer Jowhar "aabo" before maxamed dheere who is related waare




his son



we had more Golo deegaan members in jowhar than abgaal under italy. Xawaadle and Abgaal came to Jowhar at the same time only Gaaljecel were there before Italy that why Sheikh Hassan Barsane fought them. we fought them in hiiraan but came jowhar for shaqo just like Abgaal.

[sahal80]

Mohahed Dheere arming Gaaljecel against Hawadle to take over west Jowhar in 2000 after he took the east side from them. hawadle moved to their stronghold Buurane and installed isbaaro against mohamed dheere admin going to Mahadaay.
https://reliefweb.int/report/somalia/le ... n-fighting
buurane checkpoint that forced mohamed dheere to reach heshiis with Hawadle so he can go to mahaday
https://reliefweb.int/report/somalia/so ... 1-aug-1997

buurane between Jowhar and mahaday east of the river. west of the river is hawadle as far as dhurweyle. notice the highway goes through buurane but not mahadaay

https://ibb.co/pXvQVLg

[sahal80]

XL and dabageed have balls i will give them that. They arrested the whole president . Unbelievable ! Dabageed is going places, he is king in his house.

Big celebrations today by XL they have been patient and they got something out of it. Anyways guul dabageed noolow.

Dabageed said today next time caasimada ayaan ka saxiixi doonaa intuusan bixin. i saw it in the whatsapp group of his staff. they said doorashada kadib ayaan afduubeynaa inta mar kale la casumo

[sahal80]

Xog waxaan helay qatar ah oo ah in Sanbaloolshe iyo MM ay guudlaawe kula heshiiyeen inuu Jowhar aado oo joojiyo doorashada baladweyne maadama uu baladweyne goaan saan ah ku gaari karin sidaas ayuu dabageed ku xanibay

odayaasha ayaa soo dhexgaleen oo la hadleen dabageed si loo furo kuraasta hadii kale Guudlaawe ka faaideysan doono. rajo weyn ayaa jirta in la furo inta badan.


warka yarkaan waxbaa ka jira wallahi billahi dhageysta qorshaha guudlaawe iyo itoobiyaankii galbin lahaa oo xerada laga celiyay.

https://fb.watch/bEtlmm4pCG/

[Sbashi]

XL and dabageed have balls i will give them that. They arrested the whole president . Unbelievable ! Dabageed is going places, he is king in his house.

Big celebrations today by XL they have been patient and they got something out of it. Anyways guul dabageed noolow.

Dabageed said today next time caasimada ayaan ka saxiixi doonaa intuusan bixin. i saw it in the whatsapp group of his staff. they said doorashada kadib ayaan afduubeynaa inta mar kale la casumo

I don't think Guudlaawe will come back after this .

[sahal80]

Sababaha aan munaafaqnimada Guudlaawe ku diiday caqligaan uu ku shaqeeyaa hiiraan ii qabta hadii kale Rooble iyo MM aan ku biiri. waatii uu diiday wafdigii Rooble kadib markii uu fahad raacay wuxuu ku yiri baladweyne igeeya hadii kale rooble ayaan ku biiri. shaati aadan laheen dhaxan kaama celiyo ok doorashada Baladweyne kadib baad bixi kartaa hada maa fahad yaasiin card ii cayaaree adigoo rooble iyo FEIT kadiiday kun jeer hadeey ku dhihi guudlaawe mashallah

isbaaradii madoobuu rabaa inuu noo dhigto oodoorashada dib loo dhigo.

Xabsiga ku haaya

marka laga reebo kursiga Sanbaloolshe rabo Dabageed dad buu lacag ugu xiri rabaa maaha bc they are pro Farmaajo waa who can pay for it. goodax ma ogolo "baad"

waa been Farmaajuu kuraas u xirayaa. Sanbaloolshe iyo dabageed baa isku share ah ma ogolo in isla jufadooda xildhibaanka qaadato "waayo asagaa ku bixi bari inleen xildhibaankii ay heestaan" laakin ninka sanbaloolshe dhisay oo kursiga raba ayaa markii hore xisaabtaas dejiyay si uu xildhibaan usii ahaado waana pro F&F

marka aniga for the MM losers uma taageeraayo inay doorashada baladweyne isbaaro u dhigtaan.







we started it!

[Amin5457]

Jowhar explained

Jowhar waxaa ka talin jiray Xawaadle waligeed ilaa xiligii talyaaniga ilaa before 2000 markuu maxamed dheere qabsadey. USC hawadle took over the adminstration after its Governor joined them. adminstarion is based in Horseed neighbourhood with the majority of Shiidoe ahd Arab population besides kulmis neighbourhood. Abgaal are majority in on neighbourhood in the east far from the center and laamiga these Abgaals are maxamed muuse wacbuudhan who were not against Hawadle adminstaration. After having Ceelmacaan port for 10 years due to Xamar port being closed, The warsangali harti abgaal Salafis like Abuukar xaaji cadaani, Bashiir Raage, Abdulkadir Osoble funded Mohamed Dheere war on Hawadle in Jowhar with the Saudi aid money and the money from the port. that is how Jowhar became Abgaal in 2000


Hawadle families in Jowhar became very rich and have alot of farms that jareer look after them like reer ciyow iyo reer camalow waligeed ilaa xiligii talyaaniga

This is "Jowhar Hawadle aabo" Before maxamed Dheere. imaging having ceyr daris replaced by Sacad? This what happened in Jowhar. warsangale abgaal are from between warshiikh and cadale they brought in Agoonyar from mahadaay to help them and Hawadle focused on Baladweyne



Reer Jowhar "aabo" before maxamed dheere who is related waare




his son



we had more Golo deegaan members in jowhar than abgaal under italy. Xawaadle and Abgaal came to Jowhar at the same time only Gaaljecel were there before Italy that why Sheikh Hassan Barsane fought them. we fought them in hiiraan but came jowhar for shaqo just like Abgaal.

Saaxib, you really believe XL are more numerous than abgaal in jowhar. Answer this question. We both know who dominate the city overall

[sahal80]

Jowhar is the border between us so how can one side be bigger than the other? Because it is the capital of Middle Shabelle this gives more political and military importance to Abgaal who depends on Mogadishu just 90km away but to Hawadle it is a second province under another administration.

Hawadle are the biggest clan in Hirshabelle being majority in Baladweyne, Buulaburde and Jalalaqsi and their own separate towns and villages are bigger than any only Abgaal town in middle shaballe wich is hardly to find even warshiikh and cadale have Jaaji fishers and the Majority clan in Jowhar and mahadaay are Shiidle who also settle in Balcad but wacbuudhan Abgaal are its majority but it also has many hawiye families including hawadle. Abgaal are bigger than Hawadle as a clan but not in Hirshabelle where Hawadle have more mps(8) when they got 6 and even the 3 mudulood(two udeejeen and ine moobileen) is just nominal clans by abtirsi they have no their own lands maybe moobileen in qalimow wich has Miinlaawe hawadle too and the udeejeen live within agoon cabdalle Hawadle in jawiil.

with many respect i'ts funny to Compare Hawadle with Abgaal in Hirshabelle bc the Abgaal are farmers and fishers who move between Xamar and middle shabelle while Hiiraan is a real country for Hawadle also the east of middle shabelle is a desert and ghost villages that have no roads
https://ibb.co/pfqHLc4


also Hawadle is the biggest by territory. first my map Green hawadle(i havent done east and north baladweyne area wich is obvious hawadle im just concentrating shared borders) yellow Abgaal, red Gaaljecel, Black gugundhabe(baadicade and jijeele) im not including jareer om the river banks.
https://ibb.co/Qbdq89v

second Hiiraan adminstaration clan map for Hirshabelle
biggest Hawadle red second largest Abgaal blue third Gaaljecel yellow 4th gugundhabe green, Jareer coffee, HG bkack
https://ibb.co/pr8HYNf


this is nit faan iyo ku qabso ku qasi meysid i can post videos of our villages and nomads

Hawadle in middle shabelle is bigger than non Abgaal mudulood in Hirshabelle this is just one village. ha isku qaldina Abgaalka Xamar iyo Hirshabelle.