HSM violations of the power-sharing formula is why he is the WEAKEST "president" since Abdiqasim & Arta.

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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:28 pm Gubbet is acting like Laangaab nacala. Wallahi I was never interested seeing Abgaal as a PM for Farmaajo.

Mudulood did not mind seeing Murusade as PM. Why the hell are you offending PM Hamza Barre. Is he not a Somali, Daarod, Absame?

Omar Jees kulaha.

I see PM Hamza and HSM finish their tenure together Inshallah.
Abkoow why are you being disingenuous? This isn't about the marxuum, we wish him the best. Hsm has ruined the power-sharing agreement by giving police chief to another asbame. You know power sharing doesn't stop at hawiye/darood but trickles down to subclans.

What Gubbet said is valid if he doesn't respect the law of the land holding Somalia together he won't have any influence outside xamar. His influence is already non-existent in PL and sws while in HS his attempt to give the presidency to xawaadle failed.
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Sbashi wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:47 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:28 pm Gubbet is acting like Laangaab nacala. Wallahi I was never interested seeing Abgaal as a PM for Farmaajo.

Mudulood did not mind seeing Murusade as PM. Why the hell are you offending PM Hamza Barre. Is he not a Somali, Daarod, Absame?

Omar Jees kulaha.

I see PM Hamza and HSM finish their tenure together Inshallah.
Abkoow why are you being disingenuous? This isn't about the marxuum, we wish him the best. Hsm has ruined the power-sharing agreement by giving police chief to another asbame. You know power sharing doesn't stop at hawiye/darood but trickles down to subclans.

What Gubbet said is valid if he doesn't respect the law of the land holding Somalia together he won't have any influence outside xamar. His influence is already non-existent in PL and sws while in HS his attempt to give the presidency to xawaadle failed.
I don't understand why this point is so hard to understand?

I don't care if HSM names these people as his butt washer---

---that's why he is focking FADHIID ("lameduck") at less than 1 year into his term.

Congratulations, Farmaajo was the most powerful president since Siad Barre and you are the weakest since Abdiqasim.

Hip hip horeey!

And then Abkoow will be the first one to try to claim other's achievements in the future with an actual powerful presidency constantly whining about "don't forget me, I started..."

No, we would have forgetten because you would have been WEAK and INEFFECTIVE with 0 real leadership when you were claiming to have "claimed" authority.

This is why you are forgetten and not remembered.

It is a failure in leadership. Period.
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Gubbet wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:57 pm
Sbashi wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:47 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:28 pm Gubbet is acting like Laangaab nacala. Wallahi I was never interested seeing Abgaal as a PM for Farmaajo.

Mudulood did not mind seeing Murusade as PM. Why the hell are you offending PM Hamza Barre. Is he not a Somali, Daarod, Absame?

Omar Jees kulaha.

I see PM Hamza and HSM finish their tenure together Inshallah.
Abkoow why are you being disingenuous? This isn't about the marxuum, we wish him the best. Hsm has ruined the power-sharing agreement by giving police chief to another asbame. You know power sharing doesn't stop at hawiye/darood but trickles down to subclans.

What Gubbet said is valid if he doesn't respect the law of the land holding Somalia together he won't have any influence outside xamar. His influence is already non-existent in PL and sws while in HS his attempt to give the presidency to xawaadle failed.
I don't understand why this point is so hard to understand?

I don't care if HSM names these people as his butt washer---

---that's why he is focking FADHIID ("lameduck") at less than 1 year into his term.

Congratulations, Farmaajo was the most powerful president since Siad Barre and you are the weakest since Abdiqasim.

Hip hip horeey!

And then Abkoow will be the first one to try to claim other's achievements in the future with an actual powerful presidency constantly whining about "don't forget me, I started..."

No, we would have forgetten because you would have been WEAK and INEFFECTIVE with 0 real leadership when you were claiming to have "claimed" authority.

This is why you are forgetten and not remembered.

It is a failure in leadership. Period.
"don't forget me, I started..." :pac: I do remember abkoow here boasting about how this or that was started by hsm during farmaajos term.

Today we can't even say this or that was started by farmaajo cause hsm can't even take advantage of the processes farmaajo started. The debt relief process is nowhere to be found, the soldiers aren't getting paid and the Eritrean troops that recently came back rumors are going around they have mutinied and escaped during a shootout.

Even these recent liberations are on the back of gorgor and danab which have been built during farmaajos tenure. But there is o post liberation plan.
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Gubbet wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:57 pm
Sbashi wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:47 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:28 pm Gubbet is acting like Laangaab nacala. Wallahi I was never interested seeing Abgaal as a PM for Farmaajo.

Mudulood did not mind seeing Murusade as PM. Why the hell are you offending PM Hamza Barre. Is he not a Somali, Daarod, Absame?

Omar Jees kulaha.

I see PM Hamza and HSM finish their tenure together Inshallah.
Abkoow why are you being disingenuous? This isn't about the marxuum, we wish him the best. Hsm has ruined the power-sharing agreement by giving police chief to another asbame. You know power sharing doesn't stop at hawiye/darood but trickles down to subclans.

What Gubbet said is valid if he doesn't respect the law of the land holding Somalia together he won't have any influence outside xamar. His influence is already non-existent in PL and sws while in HS his attempt to give the presidency to xawaadle failed.
I don't understand why this point is so hard to understand?

I don't care if HSM names these people as his butt washer---

---that's why he is focking FADHIID ("lameduck") at less than 1 year into his term.

Congratulations, Farmaajo was the most powerful president since Siad Barre and you are the weakest since Abdiqasim.

Hip hip horeey!

And then Abkoow will be the first one to try to claim other's achievements in the future with an actual powerful presidency constantly whining about "don't forget me, I started..."

No, we would have forgetten because you would have been WEAK and INEFFECTIVE with 0 real leadership when you were claiming to have "claimed" authority.

This is why you are forgetten and not remembered.

It is a failure in leadership. Period.

What achievements? Negro you almost caused a civil war. You MX are sick people isma qabataan dhulmi na waa isku taageertiin!

5 fuckin years meel aa shabab ka qabsateen sheeg? Fuck outta here man. I cannot engage with a mental patient. Claim our achievements kuye. :lol:
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Sbashi wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:40 pm
eliteSomali wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:26 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:20 pm

I have seen you mention that absame have gotten stronger multiple times. Maybe enlighten us on how they have become stronger since farmaajo left while mx got weaker.

Powerrsharing bu ka hadlaa. Are Absame hawiye micnaha? :lol:
:lol: to him, yes absame are as hawiye as you are, in fact I'd go as far as say he prefers hawiye over the absame.

His cuqdad is understandable. His adeer spent the better parts of 6 years trying to destroy the absame, unfortunately for him, he failed and not only did he fail, the guys he was trying to destroy are now 100 times stronger and they'll only get stronger as his constituency gets weaker. It's perfectly reasonable for gubbet to have some grievences, but to completely denounce all sanity is something else.
You know you mentioned absame got stronger many times. Please explain to us how's that the case. Add also how mx got weaker post farmaajo.
Of course they are way more stronger in somalia today than any time in history of mankind. They are in charge of villa somalia. :lol: it's not rocket science to understand that. Laakiin geel caruuri qaaday ma foga. Qaan mareexaana waa qaaxo kugu maqan. In the long term I bet marexan will retain their power , goobaha jubaland ugu strategy San oo dhan mareexaan baa dega including kismayo. That's a good indication that they will dominate that region for ages.
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Waar mareexanaw magaalada kismayo miyaan naago idinka joogin horta. Yara dhulmahanteeya oo meesha naago iyo wax Ku kiciya. Axmed madoobe Waa nin islaama oo marku xoogaa idinka laayo Nairobi buu u baxsane kkkkkkk
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There’s no such thing called “Darood power sharing” we are only Ogaden & Absame. PM Hamza needs to benefit his own constituency. It will be shameful to not name Absame the head of the police force. Culusow has Odawaa & now Hamza has Sulub.
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@sbashi This is the first time I mentioned that, don't make up stuff for the sake of it. Let's have grown man talk.

To answer your question, they want from being under attack, under a blockade, and under financial sanctions, to reversing all that, plus getting the prime minster plus getting the chief of police of Somalia. Unless you want to lie to yourself, those things I mentioned are facts.

Farmajo should not have gotten between the brotherly clans in Jubaland as he was the president for all, not the president for clan, specially if he was going to fail.
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You can't reason with Darood. People who are forever mucarad unless the president is darood.
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my nigga rebel makes sense here. don't talk about darod wit hamsa. this shi** is about cagder 1st. absame 2

voltage also rite. gurgurte prolly headed for lameduck. but i got a different reason. it's all about sourhwest state. me tink he gonna f**k that up

come 2027. SS n farmsjo could split hirshabele seats. hsm n farmajo split jubaland n gamludug seats. north mudug split too

wild cards. the ex italian colony's seats for somaliland. the idoor pretending to be die gonna vote for the highest bid. but magertenland appoints the ex italian colony's seats for ssc tribes of somaliland

lame duck can start next year. wait for new governor terms in southwest. wit zero tribal delagtes reporting :troll: i'm predicting another farmajo or hsm term
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:08 pm
Sbashi wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:40 pm
eliteSomali wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:26 pm

:lol: to him, yes absame are as hawiye as you are, in fact I'd go as far as say he prefers hawiye over the absame.

His cuqdad is understandable. His adeer spent the better parts of 6 years trying to destroy the absame, unfortunately for him, he failed and not only did he fail, the guys he was trying to destroy are now 100 times stronger and they'll only get stronger as his constituency gets weaker. It's perfectly reasonable for gubbet to have some grievences, but to completely denounce all sanity is something else.
You know you mentioned absame got stronger many times. Please explain to us how's that the case. Add also how mx got weaker post farmaajo.
Of course they are way more stronger in somalia today than any time in history of mankind. They are in charge of villa somalia. :lol: it's not rocket science to understand that. Laakiin geel caruuri qaaday ma foga. Qaan mareexaana waa qaaxo kugu maqan. In the long term I bet marexan will retain their power , goobaha jubaland ugu strategy San oo dhan mareexaan baa dega including kismayo. That's a good indication that they will dominate that region for ages.
The marxuun has no power. You won't even see him around lol.
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Somalia should be a unitary centralised state made up of 12 regions* and that both the presidency and capital city of Somalia remain in HAG hands

* Bari, Nugaal (including absorbed northern Mudug), Mudug (only southern Mudug part), Galguduud, Hiiraan, Middle Shabelle, Banadir, Lower Shabelle, Bay, Bakool, Gedo and Juba
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Cagdheer, arguably the most populous faqash subclan, has long been marginalized in the clan-based 4.5 power-sharing dispensation. Now that mooryaan-led dowlad, has, for the sake of expediency, thought it proper to disturb the traditional skinny political clan dynamics (particularly within the larger beelweynta daarood ) and deemed it advisable to favor longfoot, at the expense of other traditionally daarood powerhouses, namely, dhabayaco and picolo denti, the latter duo, are, now. all of a sudden, crying foul, and throwing tantrums aan caadi aheyn, such as waan qaadacney oo kalsoonidii kala noqoney gurguurte..

Waryaa majeerteen and mareexaan, tan waa iga talo: grow up and let your fellow clansmen enjoy their time in the spotlight. God knows, given the amount of years they stoically spent in the unforgiving/harsh skinny political wilderness, the Ogaadeens deserve a break.
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Power does not rest on charity---Power rests on legitimacy.

What is being indicted here is lack of legitimacy.
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Gubbet wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:18 am He is ridiculously even "less" powerful than his 1st term.


  • Less than a year in; he exerts 0 political influence or capital in;
    1. Puntland which has even announced autonomy something it never attempted during Farmajo Gov
    2. Southwest state which has even physically defeated the armed political opposition sent by Mogadishu
    3. His own Hirshabelle state where he has told even his closest supporter Sanbaloolshe he exerts no influence over Harti Abgaal to reign in Guudlaawe
    4. Gedo Region where after the most acute political pressure he could bear, he surrendered after inability to change any of its administration even at a "district level"
    5. Mogadishu even, most damningly, where his regionally appointed Governor is non-existent, where districts within Mogadishu like Kaxda have mutinied against his politically appointed mayor, and where crime and lawlessness has skyrocketed in shocking expressions of failed governance
He has less political power & influence than Abdullahi Yusuf as TFG president and Sheikh Sharif as the last transitional president.

The man has not even completed the 3rd quarter of his "1st" year and he is already a lameduck.

The proverbial "Mayor of Mogadishu" except even in Mogadishu, his authority has not even materialized substantively beyond the relevance of paper appointments.

Somalis have said "Lax walbo halkey is dhigtaa lagu qalaa" (the fat tailed sheep is, inevitably, slaughtered where she chooses to lie).

His non-existent claim to authority calling himself "Somali President" has been slaughtered where he chose to lie---in breach of the power-sharing formula that is consequentially and materially the very basis of the "legitimacy" of the title of Somali President.

This individual is no "President" of Somalia today. He is just a seat-warmer wasting important time in Somalia's state-building project.

A seat-warmer is just "air" in a "vacuum." It merely just takes up "space."

What a waste!
Lax walba halkeey is dhigtaa lagu qalaa---indeed.

Can you imagine Ruto saying this about Farmaajo whose rule was so effective the attack was the 'inverse'---that it was 'too strong.'

So while HSM enjoys 'shimbirayahoow heesa," we already see what History has already written: wasted years unfortunately.




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