Would reer HY accept the election results if ...

[theyuusuf143]

Hy have been locked out of power for almost 20 years now. If they lose it will be due to the permanent coalition formed by Gadabursi, Ha and Hj. Even if Cidagalle and Hy consolidated under Garxajis and tried to get some Gadabursi clans, they would still lose.

HA and HJ have decided to lock them out back in the 90s. They would trade the president position, and have Gadabursi be vp. It is an agreement that is already baked into Somaliland.

Hy are the largest clan in Somaliland No one is more closer to the throne than habaryonis. if you have the support of HY+Ciidagale and samaron is a guaranteed Winning ticket. The only reason HJ and SM coalition looks stronger is not because of numbers its because of loyalty. Both harti and Samaron are unreliable. the first is disadvantaged and the second has always too many vice prez candidates competing each an other.

[Timiro1999]

Hy have been locked out of power for almost 20 years now. If they lose it will be due to the permanent coalition formed by Gadabursi, Ha and Hj. Even if Cidagalle and Hy consolidated under Garxajis and tried to get some Gadabursi clans, they would still lose.

HA and HJ have decided to lock them out back in the 90s. They would trade the president position, and have Gadabursi be vp. It is an agreement that is already baked into Somaliland.

Faqash dhafoor-qiiq baa isoo uraya, uf uf faqashku ur qadhmuuna.

[Timiro1999]

nigga im garhajis but not hy

I agree with you about hj they are untrustworthy just like hy are

silanyo has disappointed me and cirro is no better

either biixi or jamal for me

Markaad faqashta tirinaysid ha ilaabin ina Buubaa, Xuseen Carab Ciise iyo Jamac yare.
Faisal Cali Waraabe ka waran gudoomiyaha xisbiga ucid hadana maaha musharaxa lol waar yaa qosol doonaya.
Odaygu tolow siduu u fikiraa.

[thegoodshepherd]

Hy have been locked out of power for almost 20 years now. If they lose it will be due to the permanent coalition formed by Gadabursi, Ha and Hj. Even if Cidagalle and Hy consolidated under Garxajis and tried to get some Gadabursi clans, they would still lose.

HA and HJ have decided to lock them out back in the 90s. They would trade the president position, and have Gadabursi be vp. It is an agreement that is already baked into Somaliland.

Hy are the largest clan in Somaliland No one is more closer to the throne than habaryonis. if you have the support of HY+Ciidagale and samaron is a guaranteed Winning ticket. The only reason HJ and SM coalition looks stronger is not because of numbers its because of loyalty. Both harti and Samaron are unreliable. the first is disadvantaged and the second has always too many vice prez candidates competing each an other.

Gadabursi vote more reliably than any other clan, the problem is that they don't vote as a block. SM and HJ vote as a block, and can strip away some votes from Awadal guranteeing them a victory each time. HY are more pastoral meaning that it is harder for them to vote than for the other clans.

The biggest effect of this election may be that Cisse Muse see Ucid as a failure and join the SM and HJ.

[BigBreak]

timiro

I know that those idagale men you mention are scum but they're not as known or relevant as the hy unionists - lets understand that hy are bigger than idagale so they have more clout

[MujahidAishah]

Which ever party takes Awdal takes the election.

last election kulmiye won by a landslide

[Rambie]

Hy have been locked out of power for almost 20 years now. If they lose it will be due to the permanent coalition formed by Gadabursi, Ha and Hj. Even if Cidagalle and Hy consolidated under Garxajis and tried to get some Gadabursi clans, they would still lose.

HA and HJ have decided to lock them out back in the 90s. They would trade the president position, and have Gadabursi be vp. It is an agreement that is already baked into Somaliland.

Hy are the largest clan in Somaliland No one is more closer to the throne than habaryonis. if you have the support of HY+Ciidagale and samaron is a guaranteed Winning ticket. The only reason HJ and SM coalition looks stronger is not because of numbers its because of loyalty. Both harti and Samaron are unreliable. the first is disadvantaged and the second has always too many vice prez candidates competing each an other.

Gadabursi vote more reliably than any other clan, the problem is that they don't vote as a block. SM and HJ vote as a block, and can strip away some votes from Awadal guranteeing them a victory each time. HY are more pastoral meaning that it is harder for them to vote than for the other clans.

The biggest effect of this election may be that Cisse Muse see Ucid as a failure and join the SM and HJ.

Am afraid to say you're both wrong. Check the report on 2003 elections.
There is no whole clan or sub clan supporting a particular party. It's a matter of splitting votes and creating alliances.

[HooBariiska]

Rambie i think Sheppard bot is right. How the fok do the gidirbirsi have the most votes ? This maybe cos they are farmers and not nomadic

[Rambie]

Rambie i think Sheppard bot is right. How the fok do the gidirbirsi have the most votes ? This maybe cos they are farmers and not nomadic

It's the numbers of adult votes sxb, not population. Read the 3rd description under the first screenshot.
There is no way Awdal got more votes than Toghdheer. That is why this elections caused a lot of noise when UDUB won with a margin of 80 votes.

[Togdeer]

The diagram above is fake or made up. Arab is not bigger than ciidagale, and gudabiirsi is not bigger than HJ. The previous votes were not accurate. People were voting several times. In 2017 we will find out who the real landheer of Somaliland are.

[HooBariiska]

U dont get my point ee iska ilow sxb

[HooBariiska]

The diagram above is fake or made up. Arab is not bigger than ciidagale, and gudabiirsi is not bigger than HJ. The previous votes were not accurate. People were voting several times. In 2017 we will find out who the real landheer of Somaliland are.

How did u come to the conclusion that 2017 will be more fairer ? How do u knw?

[Rambie]

The diagram above is fake or made up. Arab is not bigger than ciidagale, and gudabiirsi is not bigger than HJ. The previous votes were not accurate. People were voting several times. In 2017 we will find out who the real landheer of Somaliland are.

Again, the report does not determine the size of clans but the vote of adults sxb.


Gudabursi got high numbers because of the vote rigging. There was also allegations of ballot stuffing in Sool-Saraar.
Check it here.

https://www.google.ae/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 24&cad=rja

[Rambie]

How did u come to the conclusion that 2017 will be more fairer ? How do u knw?

Because 2010 elections were almost transparent.

https://www.google.ae/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 4104,d.d24

[X.Playa]

Would the sub clan of Wadani chief cirro HY accept the presidential election result if either UCID 's candidate or more particularly Mr biixi of kulmiye wins the presidency

or if they cry foul would they selfishly sabotage the peace unity and statehood of somaliland which the enemies of JSL salivate for

no doubt cirro will not win I say for many reasons which I'm happy to state

HY are the faqash of reer Sh isaaq and provide the most pan somali unionists from isaaq - fosia kallun abdalla boss etc

Do you understand the meaning of one man one vote. In the end Somaliland always win , it does not matter cirro,musebixi,or faisal . They all belong to the same nation amba ku farax amaba ka xanaaq.

Exactly

no they don't and never will. I just don't understand what Cirro wining or Biixi wining will add anything to HY or HA individual . Waxay rabaan intay futada xaarka leh makhaayada ku kala qabtaan ay ku faanaan sidii Faqashtii "adeerkay baa madaxaweyne ah".