I don't want children.

[LightAtNight]

Since I was a kid, I've always imagined myself as becoming a father one day and having a lots of kids, but as time went by I changed my mind, am not sure I want to have kids anymore

[openmindopenheart]

Since I was a kid, I've always imagined myself as becoming a father one day and having a lots of kids, but as time went by I changed my mind, am not sure I want to have kids anymore

What do you think changed your mind?

[HayWire]

Let me make a Ducaa for all of you who don't want to have children. May Allah bless you with 5 accidental kids each

By the way those of you who are against having Kids, can you support my new APP HSWS "Halal Shagging Without Shenanigans"
I know there is a demand for it. It is absolutely legal/Halal.

Sheikh Hyper can confirm, here is the ruling.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8&t=380228

Potential clients so far. Hyper, Tushi, Twist, Sophy, Lightatnight and openmindopenhert

[Sophisticate]

How dare you! Hey, I may have bidaar but I ain't no short-ass creature. lol

Well, freezing the goodies works for all concerned if money is not a concern, innit? If that bad teacher is not an issue then the main point of this debate could have taken care of itself... at least for the majority in this discussion (I am referring to you, team "kids-will-take-care-of-me-when-I-am-old").

Hmm! Why was Bella and I +ed together? We may both be from Down Under, but we aren't even from neighboring states. Stop it, you witch!

I'm on the fence. I'm keeping the door open walaal. If it happens cool, if not such is life. Read my first reply dammit!

I have 2 possible trajectories.

1. Be the hella fine female that stays single, takes care of herself and baths in money daily. Hence, no need to fall back on children in old age. I would find fulfillment in being a generous human being. I'd drop stacks for zakat and sadaqat. And find solace in spirituality/faith. With some kind of passion project that had a legacy that outlives me. I would groom one of my closest relatives to take over my life's work.

2. Go the conventional route. I'm a little be narcissistic so I wouldn't mind figuring out what a biological cocktail of me + someone else would make. Merely out of curiosity. If I had children I'd probably build them up to be mavericks inculcated with copious amounts of self-esteem. Possibilities and potential would be limitless. Get this, they would also be compassionate human beings concerned about the human family- with a special spot in their heart for the Somali cause (they have it hard right now).

Either way, it's a win-win scenario.

I just added a + instead of an and. It seems that perhaps, that idea was already in your head, to begin with. Bella get in here, it appears Twist has been feeling you 'long time'. His subconscious is acting up.

[gurey25]

Children are a joy,
just being around them energizes me, makes my probelems go away.
who needs zoloft or xanax?
for you overmedicated Americans, next time you are feeling down, take your nieces or nephews or even your neighbors kids to the park.

I'm not sure such dependancy on children for one's own happiness is that healthy - especially since said children grow and become individuals of their own.

its not dependency its, just something i find calming and enjoyable.
I have a 4 year old boy, ive been through the sleepless nights, the crying etc.
and im used to having lost of kids running around the house causing mayhem,
this is natural and im sure its good for your well being.

Living alone in an apartment is unnatural,
we are social creatures and need to be with people.

I say this as an introvert that is emotional self sufficient, i can entertain myself , and can go much longer without human contact than most people. I dont need to be around other people, or children, i choose to.

[Sophisticate]

Let me make a Ducaa for all of you who don't want to have children. May Allah bless you with 5 accidental kids each

By the way those of you who are against having Kids, can you support my new APP HSWS "Halal Shagging Without Shenanigans"
I know there is a demand for it. It is absolutely legal/Halal.

Sheikh Hyper can confirm, here is the ruling.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8&t=380228

Potential clients so far. Hyper, Tushi, Twist, Sophy, Lightatnight and openmindopenhert

Boy, I'm a full course meal. Not some junk food to occasionally snack on when cravings kick in. I thought I made myself abundantly clear! I would rather remain a virgin queen sitting side saddle 'solo' than go for your shady App. It's either I get married and hold a farax hostage for life, or I stay single and celibate indefinitely. Shenanigans are not welcome. The brideprice over her is too high to compromise for a no-strings-attached halaal tryst. I'm a forever-love, you know that once in a lifetime 'spiritual' kind. So I'm exceedingly choosy. Not that carnal lust soulless kind, which you're propagating. If that's your prerogative do you brother.

[gurey25]

Let me make a Ducaa for all of you who don't want to have children. May Allah bless you with 5 accidental kids each

By the way those of you who are against having Kids, can you support my new APP HSWS "Halal Shagging Without Shenanigans"
I know there is a demand for it. It is absolutely legal/Halal.

Sheikh Hyper can confirm, here is the ruling.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8&t=380228

Potential clients so far. Hyper, Tushi, Twist, Sophy, Lightatnight and openmindopenhert

hey man, thats copyright infringement.
I beat you to it, after the fatwa from shiekh hyper, i am looking investors.
Think of it as Halal Tinder, with your witnesses and a wadaad available live.

[openmindopenheart]

Children are a joy,
just being around them energizes me, makes my probelems go away.
who needs zoloft or xanax?
for you overmedicated Americans, next time you are feeling down, take your nieces or nephews or even your neighbors kids to the park.

I'm not sure such dependancy on children for one's own happiness is that healthy - especially since said children grow and become individuals of their own.

its not dependency its, just something i find calming and enjoyable.
I have a 4 year old boy, ive been through the sleepless nights, the crying etc.
and im used to having lost of kids running around the house causing mayhem,
this is natural and im sure its good for your well being.

Living alone in an apartment is unnatural,
we are social creatures and need to be with people.

I say this as an introvert that is emotional self sufficient, i can entertain myself , and can go much longer without human contact than most people. I dont need to be around other people, or children, i choose to.

I'm also an introvert, and find my joy in other ways. Not everyone's experience of "calm" and "joy" will look like yours. And just like you choose to be around children, others don't. I hope you can see the alternatives to the lifestyle you've outlined, and I'm happy you are enjoying your choices.

[Twist]

How dare you! Hey, I may have bidaar but I ain't no short-ass creature. lol

Well, freezing the goodies works for all concerned if money is not a concern, innit? If that bad teacher is not an issue then the main point of this debate could have taken care of itself... at least for the majority in this discussion (I am referring to you, team "kids-will-take-care-of-me-when-I-am-old").

Hmm! Why was Bella and I +ed together? We may both be from Down Under, but we aren't even from neighboring states. Stop it, you witch!

I'm on the fence. I'm keeping the door open walaal. If it happens cool, if not such is life. Read my first reply dammit!

I have 2 possible trajectories.

1. Be the hella fine female that stays single, takes care of herself and baths in money daily. Hence, no need to fall back on children in old age. I would find fulfillment in being a generous human being. I'd drop stacks for zakat and sadaqat. And find solace in spirituality/faith. With some kind of passion project that had a legacy that outlives me. I would groom one of my closest relatives to take over my life's work.

2. Go the conventional route. I'm a little be narcissistic so I wouldn't mind figuring out what a biological cocktail of me + someone else would make. Merely out of curiosity. If I had children I'd probably build them up to be mavericks inculcated with copious amounts of self-esteem. Possibilities and potential would be limitless. Get this, they would also be compassionate human beings concerned about the human family- with a special spot in their heart for the Somali cause (they have it hard right now).

Either way, it's a win-win scenario.

I just added a + instead of an and. It seems that perhaps, that idea was already in your head, to begin with. Bella get in here, it appears Twist has been feeling you 'long time'. His subconscious is acting up.

Sophi, you don't know nothing, girl. Bella and I are in honeymoon in the Bahamas right now. Having the best time of our lives! I am your dumaashi now (or was it seedi?).

[zulaika]

Being a mother is not a likely path for all women; society expect this but Allah chooses who to bless(or burden, depending on your views) children with.

Women should not hang social expectations over their heads when it comes to matters of Al-qaib. A healthy outlook for any young woman would be to have plans, hopes, desires to prepare and set out to achieve the life she would prefer to live...and pray that it is agreeable to the prevailing plan Allah has for her.

To the poster and likeminded young women in here who wish to never have kids, live your life as you wish; it's tough decision(I would imagine) to reach that conclusion....and to still seek childless marriages, within the Somali community...this is a challenge.

As for the option of abortion; I don't understand the need for hindsight preventive measures for someone so decidedly firm on NEVER to have children from the get go....why don't they get their tubes tied, explore permanent procedures...sterilization?? I mean if they're serious about this, there are options...abortion should never be part of this.

Anyways, good luck!

[openmindopenheart]

Being a mother is not a likely path for all women; society expect this but Allah chooses who to bless(or burden, depending on your views) children with.

Women should not hang social expectations over their heads when it comes to matters of Al-qaib. A healthy outlook for any young woman would be to have plans, hopes, desires to prepare and set out to achieve the life she would prefer to live...and pray that it is agreeable to the prevailing plan Allah has for her.

To the poster and likeminded young women in here who wish to never have kids, live your life as you wish; it's tough decision(I would imagine) to reach that conclusion....and to still seek childless marriages, within the Somali community...this is a challenge.

As for the option of abortion; I don't understand the need for hindsight preventive measures for someone so decidedly firm on NEVER to have children from the get go....why don't they get their tubes tied, explore permanent procedures...sterilization?? I mean if they're serious about this, there are options...abortion should never be part of this.

Anyways, good luck!

Being a mother is not a likely path for all women; society expect this but Allah chooses who to bless(or burden, depending on your views) children with.

Women should not hang social expectations over their heads when it comes to matters of Al-qaib. A healthy outlook for any young woman would be to have plans, hopes, desires to prepare and set out to achieve the life she would prefer to live...and pray that it is agreeable to the prevailing plan Allah has for her.

To the poster and likeminded young women in here who wish to never have kids, live your life as you wish; it's tough decision(I would imagine) to reach that conclusion....and to still seek childless marriages, within the Somali community...this is a challenge.

As for the option of abortion; I don't understand the need for hindsight preventive measures for someone so decidedly firm on NEVER to have children from the get go....why don't they get their tubes tied, explore permanent procedures...sterilization?? I mean if they're serious about this, there are options...abortion should never be part of this.

Anyways, good luck!

Beautiful comment. Thank you.

Actually, it is extremely difficult to get sterilized when you are young and/or have never had children. Finding a doctor who will do it is tough for women in my situation. Also, pregnancies still have occurred even with tubal ligations ... very slim chance, but not impossible. Abortion is not ideal...but it should never be framed as if it isn't an option in very specific circumstances.

[openmindopenheart]

Being a mother is not a likely path for all women; society expect this but Allah chooses who to bless(or burden, depending on your views) children with.

Women should not hang social expectations over their heads when it comes to matters of Al-qaib. A healthy outlook for any young woman would be to have plans, hopes, desires to prepare and set out to achieve the life she would prefer to live...and pray that it is agreeable to the prevailing plan Allah has for her.

To the poster and likeminded young women in here who wish to never have kids, live your life as you wish; it's tough decision(I would imagine) to reach that conclusion....and to still seek childless marriages, within the Somali community...this is a challenge.

As for the option of abortion; I don't understand the need for hindsight preventive measures for someone so decidedly firm on NEVER to have children from the get go....why don't they get their tubes tied, explore permanent procedures...sterilization?? I mean if they're serious about this, there are options...abortion should never be part of this.

Anyways, good luck!

Being a mother is not a likely path for all women; society expect this but Allah chooses who to bless(or burden, depending on your views) children with.

Women should not hang social expectations over their heads when it comes to matters of Al-qaib. A healthy outlook for any young woman would be to have plans, hopes, desires to prepare and set out to achieve the life she would prefer to live...and pray that it is agreeable to the prevailing plan Allah has for her.

To the poster and likeminded young women in here who wish to never have kids, live your life as you wish; it's tough decision(I would imagine) to reach that conclusion....and to still seek childless marriages, within the Somali community...this is a challenge.

As for the option of abortion; I don't understand the need for hindsight preventive measures for someone so decidedly firm on NEVER to have children from the get go....why don't they get their tubes tied, explore permanent procedures...sterilization?? I mean if they're serious about this, there are options...abortion should never be part of this.

Anyways, good luck!

Beautiful comment. Thank you.

Actually, it is extremely difficult to get sterilized when you are young and/or have never had children. Finding a doctor who will do it is tough for women in my situation. Also, pregnancies still have occurred even with tubal ligations ... very slim chance, but not impossible. Abortion is not ideal...but it should never be framed as if it isn't an option in very specific circumstances.

[Rabshoole]

It's your life, do with it as you please.

[Macarons]

The idea of having child(ren) grew on me myself, as like you I was more focused on my academic/material gains and the possibility of failure....but the more you imagine, it becomes easier to see oneself as a mentor,a protector and the chance to pass on your own genes. Why waste such genes? Also I see the chance of sharing the greatest bond of spiritual, unconditional love ever possible, the one between a mother and her child.

[Sophisticate]

Sophi, you don't know nothing, girl. Bella and I are in honeymoon in the Bahamas right now. Having the best time of our lives! I am your dumaashi now (or was it seedi?).

...

I need to hear her response to this. I'm waiting....