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Re: Sudan on alert over Egypt's military strike on Ethiopia

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Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 5:33 pm
MarsinQorahay wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 3:11 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 2:04 pm ONLF did no damage bro. The potential was there, for them to be strong, but then clan-divisions reared its ugly head and weakened the Somali struggle. The TPLF just found a willing puppet named abdi iley and made the liyyu and boom...now they can spread their soldiers to other regions and let somalis kill somalis....
the government, during the protests, were actually pushed out of a lot of oromia. you should study this more before discussing it, no offense bro. but many govt structures were destroyed and the local tplf cadres were chased out. this is why the declared the emergency, it was literally the biggest challenge to their power.
and our goal is almost done. as we speak, the gold and mineral resources are in oromo hands. the opdo is standing up to tplf, goal #2. slowly but surely, you'll see more and more of this.
The Ogaden region has had several presidents, why haven't they fought against the ONLF like Abdi Iley did? surely they had the governments backing and ofcourse police or army force to fight against them.
I guess you have no idea on what and how the Ogaden region was before Abdi Iley, do a little research then come back and give your opinions regarding my region.

ONLF did more damage to the Ethiopian regime than OLF, and it still effects them today as we speak, unlike your regions my lands are not given away for free to chinese and indians, They and the government of ethiopia are too scared to come further down than jigjiga.

Your goal is not done until TPLF is toppled out of the seat.
The state is in emergency meaning the government can do whatever they want across the country, They are killing amhara and oromo who made the unrest during the demonstrations.

Again, your 50 million of the ethiopian population and still haven't received your goal, Eritrea managed to get their independence with only 4-5 million in population, how come you haven't received yours?

You're people are divided through politics, ideology and religion... that's the oromos to blame for.


^^ there you go, crack-head nigga, u talking about the different presidents who didn't fight ONLF, of course they wouldn't because THEY WERE ONLF THEMSELVES--and why were they removed, agaiN? because they pushed for secession.
You said they were active, and I simply asked if so: what land do they hold and administer? If they don't control or administer any, it's pointless to say they're active bro. Roaming around a desert doesn't indicate activity or strength.
We didn't accept Somali Abo title, we didn't accept siad barre wanting 45% of Oromia, that's why we disagreed and fell out. if the oromo were in the position siad barre was in, somalis wouldn't accept us wanting 45% of somalia either. it's simple logic.
the majority of your people are harmless nomads too, hence the reason there's like 10 different national armies in somalia doing whatever they want.
i don't care why it isn't digged up yet, until its dug up and used, it's pointless to brag about it.
You sound so stupid when your talking about something you completely have no idea about, There were only 1 who was sacked because he had ties with the ONLF but did the rest get sacked because of that? the answer is no, why isn't Abdi Mohamud Sacked? he is the only president who have held the position longer than anyone else who has been.
ONLF stategi is hit and run, the time will come when there is unrest in Ethiopia, that's the right time to hold anything.
When did Siad Barre want 45% of oromia? what sources can you back your claim to that? your simply talking out of paranoia.
Siad Barre didn't want anything else than to topple mengistu out of the office with the help of the ethiopian rebels, Siad Barre reached 80 km outside the capital, he wanted the oromos to take over.

You can't compare the braveness of somalis to oromos because we somalis took over your lands centuries ago, your people used to live far south in NFD, southern somalia and even some parts of ogaden and northern somalia.
You are the people of ''galla'' harmless farmers who are in population of 50 million, divided and conquered.. ruled by a minority group of 4-6 million tigre.
Don't f-king show up in our forums bragging about how your people are brave and how they are fighting TPLF, your like a jealous little hoodrat hoe who is telling us how your getting your boyfriend back, complete bullshit bro.

Somali nomads are not harmless you stupid cow, they are the ones who makes the unrest in somalia.. all other somalis are scared of them.

The reason for why the oil and gas isnt digged up yet is because of ONLF activity, there you go xooloyahow oromka ah.
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Re: Sudan on alert over Egypt's military strike on Ethiopia

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Fool! You were the one who mentioned the Somali regional presidents, and asked me: why didn't they fight ONLF? I said: BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLF, why would they fight THEMSELVES?
They pushed for secession, so the EPRDF moved in and shut them down, and appointed a NON-OGADENI president.

Abdi is president, for this long, because he accepted being a good puppet to his TPLF bosses, it's quite simple fool.


Hit and run is every guerrillas tactics, but once they claim to be successful, that means they control land and administer it, once again, like EPLF, TPLF, and others did.

In regards to siad barres land claims, 1st of all, my father was an OLF member and lived in Mogadishu from 1978-to around 1980-1981 when the OLF office in Mogadishu was closed, due to them not wanting to be somali abbo, because we are oromo, not somalis. if we changed the name, and didn't fight under oromo, our just struggle would look like somali expansionism and not a just struggle of an oppressed Ethiopian ethnic group.

''The territory claimed by the WSLF extended as far as the Awash River, within 100 miles of Addis Ababa.''

[ARR: Arab Report and Record, pafe 795]



Okay you guys were brave a million years ago, what about today? all that land and you still starve? NFD is Kenyan, you'll never rule it or see it, so go ahead and brag about the lands of others, it's a joke to me.
why are there over 10 different armies in your land, again?
why can't you stop them, with your bravery??

if those nomads were that tough, your land wouldn't be occupied with so many armies. work on that first before bragging bro.
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Re: Sudan on alert over Egypt's military strike on Ethiopia

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Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:12 pm Fool! You were the one who mentioned the Somali regional presidents, and asked me: why didn't they fight ONLF? I said: BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLF, why would they fight THEMSELVES?
They pushed for secession, so the EPRDF moved in and shut them down, and appointed a NON-OGADENI president.

Abdi is president, for this long, because he accepted being a good puppet to his TPLF bosses, it's quite simple fool.


Hit and run is every guerrillas tactics, but once they claim to be successful, that means they control land and administer it, once again, like EPLF, TPLF, and others did.

In regards to siad barres land claims, 1st of all, my father was an OLF member and lived in Mogadishu from 1978-to around 1980-1981 when the OLF office in Mogadishu was closed, due to them not wanting to be somali abbo, because we are oromo, not somalis. if we changed the name, and didn't fight under oromo, our just struggle would look like somali expansionism and not a just struggle of an oppressed Ethiopian ethnic group.

''The territory claimed by the WSLF extended as far as the Awash River, within 100 miles of Addis Ababa.''

[ARR: Arab Report and Record, pafe 795]



Okay you guys were brave a million years ago, what about today? all that land and you still starve? NFD is Kenyan, you'll never rule it or see it, so go ahead and brag about the lands of others, it's a joke to me.
why are there over 10 different armies in your land, again?
why can't you stop them, with your bravery??

if those nomads were that tough, your land wouldn't be occupied with so many armies. work on that first before bragging bro.
Once again you idiot you are making no sense.
Were all the presidents ONLF? were the one before abdi mohamud omar president? daud and lugbuur? ONLF started their armed struggle in 1994.
Daud, lugbuur were ESPDP leaders, Abdi is the leader of that group today.. the group you said were made by non ogadenis.

The situation in Somalia is brought by somalis themselves and no one else, thats why there are so many armies there because somalis cannot agree with each other present day.
Somalis has a country for themselves called Somalia and Djibouti, Somalia was one of the strongest nation in africa back in the days. Can we say the same about oromos? i guess not.
I don't hate or have any grudge against the oromo people, but the way you describe the somalis and the way you describe your people is beyond ridiculous.
NFD is Somali, somalis there call themselves kenyans and have a huge role in the government in Kenya unlike your people who also happend to live there also, without any power like the somalis have.

You are irrelevant in the politics of the horn, something which is very wrong for a population of 50 million but again you are harmless oromos as usual.
Now provide me any sources of OLF attacks in Ethiopia, let it be from 2000-2015.
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Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 5:33 pm
MarsinQorahay wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 3:11 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 2:04 pm ONLF did no damage bro. The potential was there, for them to be strong, but then clan-divisions reared its ugly head and weakened the Somali struggle. The TPLF just found a willing puppet named abdi iley and made the liyyu and boom...now they can spread their soldiers to other regions and let somalis kill somalis....
the government, during the protests, were actually pushed out of a lot of oromia. you should study this more before discussing it, no offense bro. but many govt structures were destroyed and the local tplf cadres were chased out. this is why the declared the emergency, it was literally the biggest challenge to their power.
and our goal is almost done. as we speak, the gold and mineral resources are in oromo hands. the opdo is standing up to tplf, goal #2. slowly but surely, you'll see more and more of this.
The Ogaden region has had several presidents, why haven't they fought against the ONLF like Abdi Iley did? surely they had the governments backing and ofcourse police or army force to fight against them.
I guess you have no idea on what and how the Ogaden region was before Abdi Iley, do a little research then come back and give your opinions regarding my region.

ONLF did more damage to the Ethiopian regime than OLF, and it still effects them today as we speak, unlike your regions my lands are not given away for free to chinese and indians, They and the government of ethiopia are too scared to come further down than jigjiga.

Your goal is not done until TPLF is toppled out of the seat.
The state is in emergency meaning the government can do whatever they want across the country, They are killing amhara and oromo who made the unrest during the demonstrations.

Again, your 50 million of the ethiopian population and still haven't received your goal, Eritrea managed to get their independence with only 4-5 million in population, how come you haven't received yours?

You're people are divided through politics, ideology and religion... that's the oromos to blame for.


^^ there you go, crack-head nigga, u talking about the different presidents who didn't fight ONLF, of course they wouldn't because THEY WERE ONLF THEMSELVES--and why were they removed, agaiN? because they pushed for secession.
You said they were active, and I simply asked if so: what land do they hold and administer? If they don't control or administer any, it's pointless to say they're active bro. Roaming around a desert doesn't indicate activity or strength.
We didn't accept Somali Abo title, we didn't accept siad barre wanting 45% of Oromia, that's why we disagreed and fell out. if the oromo were in the position siad barre was in, somalis wouldn't accept us wanting 45% of somalia either. it's simple logic.
the majority of your people are harmless nomads too, hence the reason there's like 10 different national armies in somalia doing whatever they want.
i don't care why it isn't digged up yet, until its dug up and used, it's pointless to brag about it.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... vinces.png

Siad barre only wanted Hararghe, Bale, Sidamo which were mixed Somali/Oromo but almost 100 % muslim. The word "Oromo" didn't even exist until 20~ years ago. Why care about culture when your land is being stolen from you and you cannot live the basics of life? He gave you guys a realistic and honest option, to assimilate into Somali culture like many of your people have done in the past, and be free from habesha rule. That way you would at least have your land under your clans, you would be free, and you would be able to practice your religion. Most oromos are assimiliated anyway, west oromo are bantu protestant christians, northern/central oromos are habesha orthodox christians, eastern/central oromos are cushites or hadiya/semitic, southern oromos like borona are real oromos waaqist.

The reason why there are 10 different armies in Somalia is because the West incorrectly called the moderate islamic group (islamic courts union) as extremists, which paved the way for extreme terrorists (al shabab) to take power. They destroyed the only government that somalis worldwide supported, and didn't provide any alternative but warlords. The same way they destroyed Libya, Iraq and are trying the same in Syria.
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Re: Sudan on alert over Egypt's military strike on Ethiopia

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Lion104 wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:36 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 5:33 pm
MarsinQorahay wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 3:11 pm
The Ogaden region has had several presidents, why haven't they fought against the ONLF like Abdi Iley did? surely they had the governments backing and ofcourse police or army force to fight against them.
I guess you have no idea on what and how the Ogaden region was before Abdi Iley, do a little research then come back and give your opinions regarding my region.

ONLF did more damage to the Ethiopian regime than OLF, and it still effects them today as we speak, unlike your regions my lands are not given away for free to chinese and indians, They and the government of ethiopia are too scared to come further down than jigjiga.

Your goal is not done until TPLF is toppled out of the seat.
The state is in emergency meaning the government can do whatever they want across the country, They are killing amhara and oromo who made the unrest during the demonstrations.

Again, your 50 million of the ethiopian population and still haven't received your goal, Eritrea managed to get their independence with only 4-5 million in population, how come you haven't received yours?

You're people are divided through politics, ideology and religion... that's the oromos to blame for.


^^ there you go, crack-head nigga, u talking about the different presidents who didn't fight ONLF, of course they wouldn't because THEY WERE ONLF THEMSELVES--and why were they removed, agaiN? because they pushed for secession.
You said they were active, and I simply asked if so: what land do they hold and administer? If they don't control or administer any, it's pointless to say they're active bro. Roaming around a desert doesn't indicate activity or strength.
We didn't accept Somali Abo title, we didn't accept siad barre wanting 45% of Oromia, that's why we disagreed and fell out. if the oromo were in the position siad barre was in, somalis wouldn't accept us wanting 45% of somalia either. it's simple logic.
the majority of your people are harmless nomads too, hence the reason there's like 10 different national armies in somalia doing whatever they want.
i don't care why it isn't digged up yet, until its dug up and used, it's pointless to brag about it.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... vinces.png

Siad barre only wanted Hararghe, Bale, Sidamo. The word "Oromo" didn't even exist until 20~ years ago. Why care about culture when your land is being stolen from you and you cannot live the basics of life? He gave you guys a realistic and honest option, to assimilate into Somali culture like many of your people have done in the past, and be free from habesha rule. That way you would at least have your land under your clans, you would be free, and you would be able to practice your religion. Most oromos are assimiliated anyway, west oromo are bantu protestant, northern/central oromos are habesha christians, eastern/central oromos are cushites or hadiya/semitic, southern oromos like borona are real oromos.

The reason why there are 10 different armies in Somalia is because the West incorrectly called the moderate islamic group (islamic courts union) as extremists, which paved the way for extreme terrorists (al shabab) to take power. They destroyed the only government that somalis worldwide supported, and didn't provide any alternative but warlords.
My father who led his own OLF unit of 250 men lived in Mogadishu, met with siad barre, he saw the maps, i have no reason to lie. He wanted all lands up to the awash river. Why would the Oromo want to exchange one oppressor for another? Did you know the eastern OLF units had to fight both Ethiopian and Somali troops? You both, Ethiopia and Somalia had Russian aid, but we had no external aid-now that's bravery! Fighting with little to nothing against two huge powerful east African armies?!
Why would we fight under a name that doesn't apply to our people and struggle? We fight for Oromia and Oromos. Not Somalia or anyone else. Why would we assimilate to a people who hate each other, too?
If somalis hate each other, and mistreat each other. Imagine how they'd treat the Oromo?!
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MarsinQorahay wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:26 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:12 pm Fool! You were the one who mentioned the Somali regional presidents, and asked me: why didn't they fight ONLF? I said: BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLF, why would they fight THEMSELVES?
They pushed for secession, so the EPRDF moved in and shut them down, and appointed a NON-OGADENI president.

Abdi is president, for this long, because he accepted being a good puppet to his TPLF bosses, it's quite simple fool.


Hit and run is every guerrillas tactics, but once they claim to be successful, that means they control land and administer it, once again, like EPLF, TPLF, and others did.

In regards to siad barres land claims, 1st of all, my father was an OLF member and lived in Mogadishu from 1978-to around 1980-1981 when the OLF office in Mogadishu was closed, due to them not wanting to be somali abbo, because we are oromo, not somalis. if we changed the name, and didn't fight under oromo, our just struggle would look like somali expansionism and not a just struggle of an oppressed Ethiopian ethnic group.

''The territory claimed by the WSLF extended as far as the Awash River, within 100 miles of Addis Ababa.''

[ARR: Arab Report and Record, pafe 795]



Okay you guys were brave a million years ago, what about today? all that land and you still starve? NFD is Kenyan, you'll never rule it or see it, so go ahead and brag about the lands of others, it's a joke to me.
why are there over 10 different armies in your land, again?
why can't you stop them, with your bravery??

if those nomads were that tough, your land wouldn't be occupied with so many armies. work on that first before bragging bro.
Once again you idiot you are making no sense.
Were all the presidents ONLF? were the one before abdi mohamud omar president? daud and lugbuur? ONLF started their armed struggle in 1994.
Daud, lugbuur were ESPDP leaders, Abdi is the leader of that group today.. the group you said were made by non ogadenis.

The situation in Somalia is brought by somalis themselves and no one else, thats why there are so many armies there because somalis cannot agree with each other present day.
Somalis has a country for themselves called Somalia and Djibouti, Somalia was one of the strongest nation in africa back in the days. Can we say the same about oromos? i guess not.
I don't hate or have any grudge against the oromo people, but the way you describe the somalis and the way you describe your people is beyond ridiculous.
NFD is Somali, somalis there call themselves kenyans and have a huge role in the government in Kenya unlike your people who also happend to live there also, without any power like the somalis have.

You are irrelevant in the politics of the horn, something which is very wrong for a population of 50 million but again you are harmless oromos as usual.
Now provide me any sources of OLF attacks in Ethiopia, let it be from 2000-2015.
The ONLF dominated the Somali regional government in that time, and pushed for secession, so EPRDF came and stopped that. What's difficult to understand about it? They then put non ogadenis in power for awhile.
You can have power in NFD sure, but it's still Kenyan regardless. It'll never be a part of Somalia. Plus Ethiopia and Kenya have a military agreement against Somali expansionism too. And while Somalia is still trying to recover, KENYA is expanding its army.

https://books.google.com/books?id=jj4J- ... 01&f=false

There's one example of OLF activity a long time ago i can definitely bring more
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Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:44 pm
Lion104 wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:36 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 5:33 pm



^^ there you go, crack-head nigga, u talking about the different presidents who didn't fight ONLF, of course they wouldn't because THEY WERE ONLF THEMSELVES--and why were they removed, agaiN? because they pushed for secession.
You said they were active, and I simply asked if so: what land do they hold and administer? If they don't control or administer any, it's pointless to say they're active bro. Roaming around a desert doesn't indicate activity or strength.
We didn't accept Somali Abo title, we didn't accept siad barre wanting 45% of Oromia, that's why we disagreed and fell out. if the oromo were in the position siad barre was in, somalis wouldn't accept us wanting 45% of somalia either. it's simple logic.
the majority of your people are harmless nomads too, hence the reason there's like 10 different national armies in somalia doing whatever they want.
i don't care why it isn't digged up yet, until its dug up and used, it's pointless to brag about it.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... vinces.png

Siad barre only wanted Hararghe, Bale, Sidamo. The word "Oromo" didn't even exist until 20~ years ago. Why care about culture when your land is being stolen from you and you cannot live the basics of life? He gave you guys a realistic and honest option, to assimilate into Somali culture like many of your people have done in the past, and be free from habesha rule. That way you would at least have your land under your clans, you would be free, and you would be able to practice your religion. Most oromos are assimiliated anyway, west oromo are bantu protestant, northern/central oromos are habesha christians, eastern/central oromos are cushites or hadiya/semitic, southern oromos like borona are real oromos.

The reason why there are 10 different armies in Somalia is because the West incorrectly called the moderate islamic group (islamic courts union) as extremists, which paved the way for extreme terrorists (al shabab) to take power. They destroyed the only government that somalis worldwide supported, and didn't provide any alternative but warlords.
My father who led his own OLF unit of 250 men lived in Mogadishu, met with siad barre, he saw the maps, i have no reason to lie. He wanted all lands up to the awash river. Why would the Oromo want to exchange one oppressor for another? Did you know the eastern OLF units had to fight both Ethiopian and Somali troops? You both, Ethiopia and Somalia had Russian aid, but we had no external aid-now that's bravery! Fighting with little to nothing against two huge powerful east African armies?!
Why would we fight under a name that doesn't apply to our people and struggle? We fight for Oromia and Oromos. Not Somalia or anyone else. Why would we assimilate to a people who hate each other, too?
If somalis hate each other, and mistreat each other. Imagine how they'd treat the Oromo?!
He claimed bale, hararghe and sidamo which were three ETHIOPIAN provinces that all had large somali or majority somali populations. The name "OROMO" did not even exist back then, nor did you have your own written language. Moreover the bale, hararghe zone are 100 % muslim and were culturally mixed with somalis. And you fight for your life, your land, your family, before you fight for your ethnic group or culture. Secondly, the nilotic oromos in the western highlands asked the british to join South sudan. Why your people in jimma fight to join your nilotic brothers in sudan and not oromia?

The civil war happened because we lost the 77 war and our economy/society crippled which caused unrest. The government started executing officers who revolted and became authoritarian. I have no doubt that if we won the war, then today we would be getting massive chinese investments.

Anyway, this is all history. I myself don't hold the views that siad barre held. We don't want your people, or even the mixed somali-oromo people. they can all stay in Ethiopia if they want to. Their land is degraded and useless, so it's better for that anyway.
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Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:51 pm
MarsinQorahay wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:26 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:12 pm Fool! You were the one who mentioned the Somali regional presidents, and asked me: why didn't they fight ONLF? I said: BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLF, why would they fight THEMSELVES?
They pushed for secession, so the EPRDF moved in and shut them down, and appointed a NON-OGADENI president.

Abdi is president, for this long, because he accepted being a good puppet to his TPLF bosses, it's quite simple fool.


Hit and run is every guerrillas tactics, but once they claim to be successful, that means they control land and administer it, once again, like EPLF, TPLF, and others did.

In regards to siad barres land claims, 1st of all, my father was an OLF member and lived in Mogadishu from 1978-to around 1980-1981 when the OLF office in Mogadishu was closed, due to them not wanting to be somali abbo, because we are oromo, not somalis. if we changed the name, and didn't fight under oromo, our just struggle would look like somali expansionism and not a just struggle of an oppressed Ethiopian ethnic group.

''The territory claimed by the WSLF extended as far as the Awash River, within 100 miles of Addis Ababa.''

[ARR: Arab Report and Record, pafe 795]



Okay you guys were brave a million years ago, what about today? all that land and you still starve? NFD is Kenyan, you'll never rule it or see it, so go ahead and brag about the lands of others, it's a joke to me.
why are there over 10 different armies in your land, again?
why can't you stop them, with your bravery??

if those nomads were that tough, your land wouldn't be occupied with so many armies. work on that first before bragging bro.
Once again you idiot you are making no sense.
Were all the presidents ONLF? were the one before abdi mohamud omar president? daud and lugbuur? ONLF started their armed struggle in 1994.
Daud, lugbuur were ESPDP leaders, Abdi is the leader of that group today.. the group you said were made by non ogadenis.

The situation in Somalia is brought by somalis themselves and no one else, thats why there are so many armies there because somalis cannot agree with each other present day.
Somalis has a country for themselves called Somalia and Djibouti, Somalia was one of the strongest nation in africa back in the days. Can we say the same about oromos? i guess not.
I don't hate or have any grudge against the oromo people, but the way you describe the somalis and the way you describe your people is beyond ridiculous.
NFD is Somali, somalis there call themselves kenyans and have a huge role in the government in Kenya unlike your people who also happend to live there also, without any power like the somalis have.

You are irrelevant in the politics of the horn, something which is very wrong for a population of 50 million but again you are harmless oromos as usual.
Now provide me any sources of OLF attacks in Ethiopia, let it be from 2000-2015.
The ONLF dominated the Somali regional government in that time, and pushed for secession, so EPRDF came and stopped that. What's difficult to understand about it? They then put non ogadenis in power for awhile.
You can have power in NFD sure, but it's still Kenyan regardless. It'll never be a part of Somalia. Plus Ethiopia and Kenya have a military agreement against Somali expansionism too. And while Somalia is still trying to recover, KENYA is expanding its army.

https://books.google.com/books?id=jj4J- ... 01&f=false

There's one example of OLF activity a long time ago i can definitely bring more
Who cares about NFD, it is useless desert with no economic value. It is a burden than benefit. create your greater oromia and annex wardey/orma regions of kenya.
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Lion104 wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:57 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:44 pm
Lion104 wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:36 pm https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... vinces.png

Siad barre only wanted Hararghe, Bale, Sidamo. The word "Oromo" didn't even exist until 20~ years ago. Why care about culture when your land is being stolen from you and you cannot live the basics of life? He gave you guys a realistic and honest option, to assimilate into Somali culture like many of your people have done in the past, and be free from habesha rule. That way you would at least have your land under your clans, you would be free, and you would be able to practice your religion. Most oromos are assimiliated anyway, west oromo are bantu protestant, northern/central oromos are habesha christians, eastern/central oromos are cushites or hadiya/semitic, southern oromos like borona are real oromos.

The reason why there are 10 different armies in Somalia is because the West incorrectly called the moderate islamic group (islamic courts union) as extremists, which paved the way for extreme terrorists (al shabab) to take power. They destroyed the only government that somalis worldwide supported, and didn't provide any alternative but warlords.
My father who led his own OLF unit of 250 men lived in Mogadishu, met with siad barre, he saw the maps, i have no reason to lie. He wanted all lands up to the awash river. Why would the Oromo want to exchange one oppressor for another? Did you know the eastern OLF units had to fight both Ethiopian and Somali troops? You both, Ethiopia and Somalia had Russian aid, but we had no external aid-now that's bravery! Fighting with little to nothing against two huge powerful east African armies?!
Why would we fight under a name that doesn't apply to our people and struggle? We fight for Oromia and Oromos. Not Somalia or anyone else. Why would we assimilate to a people who hate each other, too?
If somalis hate each other, and mistreat each other. Imagine how they'd treat the Oromo?!
He claimed bale, hararghe and sidamo which were three ETHIOPIAN provinces that all had large somali or majority somali populations. The name "OROMO" did not even exist back then, nor did you have your own written language. Moreover the bale, hararghe zone are 100 % muslim and were culturally mixed with somalis. And you fight for your life, your land, your family, before you fight for your ethnic group or culture. Secondly, the nilotic oromos in the western highlands asked the british to join South sudan. Why your people in jimma fight to join your nilotic brothers in sudan and not oromia?

The civil war happened because we lost the 77 war and our economy/society crippled which caused unrest. The government started executing officers who revolted and became authoritarian. I have no doubt that if we won the war, then today we would be getting massive chinese investments.

Anyway, this is all history. I myself don't hold the views that siad barre held. We don't want your people, or even the mixed somali-oromo people. they can all stay in Ethiopia if they want to. Their land is degraded and useless, so it's better for that anyway.
https://books.google.com/books?id=00UYA ... MQ6AEISTAJ

The term Oromo and Orma was known since at least 1829, sorry, your lie failed.
Secondly, my dad was alive, inside Ethiopia and Somalia and witnessed these things, before you were even born probably, so I'll take their word over yours. Up the awash river is way more than just Somali inhabited territory dude. It's includes Afars too who want nothing to do with Somalia. The Oromo struggle is about our basic human rights, has nothing to do with culture or tribalism. And just because eastern oromos are related to you, doesn't mean they want to be annexed, illegally, to Somalia.
Oromo land is much richer than ogaden land, sorry, and only the rich lands in southern Somalia can rival Oromo fertile land. So yes we don't need you nor do you need us. Your people need internal unity first anyways.

The western oromia confederation sought independence for western oromo land, had nothing to do with Sudan, put the crack pipe down bro.
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