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[Nomand]

OD,

if you are so anti MJ and puntland.

Then why are you so obsessed with telling mx to accept the Kenyan dog madoobe?

Atleast mj and puntland did not use another country to bomb your towns but yet you want mx to accept madoobe? Who is happy everytime a bomb drops in gedo.

[Khalid Ali]

OD,

if you are so anti MJ and puntland.

Then why are you so obsessed with telling mx to accept the Kenyan dog madoobe?

Atleast mj and puntland did not use another country to bomb your towns but yet you want mx to accept madoobe? Who is happy everytime a bomb drops in gedo.

These two things are unrelated he isn't anti mj or puntland he just wishes that puntland becomes a nice neighbour of the dhulbahante country. With out interference in Sool with out claiming Sool for financial and political seats only The dhulbahante country had nothing to do with majeerteenia even during the 19 20th century. Wanting to be on your own and do ur own thing doesn't necessarily mean. He can't support a jubbaland state. What Od is against is spoilers against a viable jubbaland state in kismayo. And there is nothing wrong with that. What u want is a jubbaland stater from scratch and possibly run by your clan. And what he says is let's not go back and move forward as it is.

[original dervish]

Khalid....these people are stuck in the past.
The future will be built on cooperation and Democratic values.

My biggest complaint about pl is that they continue to claim us, despite having no real presence in our regions.
That alone is destabilising because it encourages conflict between brotherly clans.

I say to any Dhulbahante.......there is no viable alternative to sl.....there just isn't, and if anybody is against this you must examine there motives.

Nomad.....Madobe is the best option right now.
HSM tried to bring back Barre Hiraale and the JVA.
I'm all for an inclusive Democratic JL.

[Phinks]

Khalid....these people are stuck in the past.
The future will be built on cooperation and Democratic values.

My biggest complaint about pl is that they continue to claim us, despite having no real presence in our regions.
That alone is destabilising because it encourages conflict between brotherly clans.

I say to any Dhulbahante.......there is no viable alternative to sl.....there just isn't, and if anybody is against this you must examine there motives.

Nomad.....Madobe is the best option right now.
HSM tried to bring back Barre Hiraale and the JVA.
I'm all for an inclusive Democratic JL.

Finally, the dumbass comes out and outright says it, at least we know his motive.

1. Majority business class of Dhulbahante are in PL/JL or Galbeed. Sool, Sanaag and Cayn aren't exactly known for economic activity, even Isaaq know these areas are tax sinkholes.

2. Dhulbahante are too entrenched in either PL or Somalia proper to consider SL, refer to above. Abdullahi Yusuf (AUN) went as far as cleaning out his own family accounts to appease Dhulbahante elders, If anyone is the parasite, it would be your clan.

3. D-block is maybe 30% pro SL, and I'm really pushing the numbers here. The rest are either with PL, FGS centralist leaning or vying for Khatuma independent state.

For some Dhulbahante are always being brought out, forget who it is, MJ, Isaaq or MX, he's always between someone and lacks the political will and acumen to organise and compete, your cuqdad and inferioty complex of MJ is amusing to say the least. We don't need you waraa, Dhulbanhante is free to leave anytime, nobody is forcing them to live in Puntland, participate in government or attend our parliament meetings, just accept that most don't want a part in an Idoor dominated state, let it go.

[BigBreak]

The lowly MJ dhabayaco it seems can't accept the reality that many Dhulos/Warsans don't want to either be second class citizens under Dhabayaco (Mahamud Saleban) tyranny or share a country with JVA/USC hence decided to be important stakeholders of a separate, sovereign country called Somaliland. How can anyone want SL to reunite with Somalia when the latter itself is a broken failed state that resembles a confederation

[original dervish]

Look how much nonsense this guy writes.....is he competing with Voltage?

Eventually these pl folk will get the message.....we're not interested in pl.

They only claim us to boost their numbers so can beg even more from the ngos. They played that racquet for years and years.

For a decade they use collect ngo money for all Dhulbahante children and then spend it on M/Salebaan kids.

Today our kids and youth attend colleges and universities, this was unheard of when pl were governing Las Anod.

To be part of sl is in our interests......this is a very simple calculation. We will not trade a few puppet positions in Garowe for the development of our vast regions.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

OD,

if you are so anti MJ and puntland.

Then why are you so obsessed with telling mx to accept the Kenyan dog madoobe?

Atleast mj and puntland did not use another country to bomb your towns but yet you want mx to accept madoobe? Who is happy everytime a bomb drops in gedo.

These two things are unrelated he isn't anti mj or puntland he just wishes that puntland becomes a nice neighbour of the dhulbahante country. With out interference in Sool with out claiming Sool for financial and political seats only The dhulbahante country had nothing to do with majeerteenia even during the 19 20th century. Wanting to be on your own and do ur own thing doesn't necessarily mean. He can't support a jubbaland state. What Od is against is spoilers against a viable jubbaland state in kismayo. And there is nothing wrong with that. What u want is a jubbaland stater from scratch and possibly run by your clan. And what he says is let's not go back and move forward as it is.

There’s no viable Jubaland state without us. We don’t care what that laangaab says.

[Phinks]

Your 'vast' regions are shitholes, there is no development taking place, you don't even have a port while having your own coast, a testament to the lack of will and foresight in your clansmen. The fact that you're boasting about some NGO's and a university makes me feel sorry for you.

D-block is maybe 30% pro SL, and I'm really pushing the numbers here. The rest are either with PL, FGS centralist leaning or vying for Khatuma independent state.

I never claimed or put forward the notion that majority of D-block are pro PL, but anyone who says majority are pro S-land is being disengionous or mentally ill. You even have Dhulbahante sub-clans killing each other for PL/SL, MJ on the other hand are constructing an additional port to link DDSI corridor with PL, there's levels between you and I, don't take your anger out on us because of your clans shameful display.

[TarTar]

Your 'vast' regions are shitholes, there is no development taking place, you don't even have a port while having your own coast, a testament to the lack of will and foresight in your clansmen. The fact that you're boasting about some NGO's and a university makes me feel sorry for you.

D-block is maybe 30% pro SL, and I'm really pushing the numbers here. The rest are either with PL, FGS centralist leaning or vying for Khatuma independent state.

I never claimed or put forward the notion that majority of D-block are pro PL, but anyone who says majority are pro S-land is being disengionous or mentally ill. You even have Dhulbahante sub-clans killing each other for PL/SL, MJ on the other hand are constructing an additional port to link DDSI corridor with PL, there's levels between you and I, don't take your anger out on us because of your clans shameful display.

dude stop begging Doblohanta

the overwhelming majority of them reject ur Bud'adland scam

don't matter if only 30% r truly pro S-land. Almost 100% r truely anti P-land

[Phinks]

If they want to leave Puntland by the masses why would I stop them? If they were 100% anti Puntland, there would be no conflict. This war is between themselves, no MJ or Isaaq is putting their people's lives on the line for something like this, if they want to fight then let them be.

[original dervish]

Just get on brah.......we done left your scamming asses a long time ago.

Keep our name outta your mouth and stop claiming us.

[Phinks]

We don't need you waraa, Dhulbanhante is free to leave anytime, nobody is forcing them to live in Puntland, participate in government or attend our parliament meetings, just accept that most don't want a part in an Idoor dominated state, let it go.

You're free to leave anytime, nobody is claiming you.

[original dervish]

So why have you spent the entire thread getting in your feelings?

Making absurd claims that if we choose to engage with sl it must be because we hate Mj.

As I've said from the beginning....we wish pl and its citizens all the best for the future.......its just that our interests have now diverged.

[Phinks]

If D-block really wanted to leave Puntland they would renounce their 4 ministers, VP and 15+ parliament positions, and yet they remain. My problem is you insinuating that majority of Dhulbanhante are pro SL when that's not the case. This is a fight between Barharsame and Ugaaryahan, Jama Siyyad are caught in the middle.

The truth is Dhulbanhante sub clans view the other as enemy number 1 and are killing each other, there's no MJ or Isaaq getting involved in this dispute other than offering some words of advice, to claim that you guys are fighting over some NGOs is being dishonest.

D-block is afflicted with qabiilyaad, it's every man for himself. First unite as one clan, then if you want PL, SL or Khatuma state, it's all up to you.
But other than that, you're right, D-block are free to leave Puntland anytime they want.

[TarTar]

y dis nigga still begging

100% Dolbahanta consent to pro S-land Dolbahanta kicking P-land outta Sool. don't matter wut u say about 30% being truly pro S-land