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New fact I just learned; Axmed Gurey further understood.

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As I have mentioned, due to the lack of clear clarity in the futah al-habasha as to the origins of Axmed-Gurey we must also use our own genealogical facts to connect the remaining dots. Numerous points were presented using the genealogy of the Marexaan for Axmed-Gurey and the information presented on the book futah al-xabasha. Some of them being:

The books mentioning Axmed-Gurey's father being Garad-Ibrahim
This is the genealogy of the Marexaan for Axmed-Gurey and Amir Nuur

Axmed-Garad Ibrahim- Mataan-Ciis (individuals trace their genealogy like this who belong to this sub-clan "reer-garaad")
Nuur-Yusef-Mataan Ciis

This has already been presented before, but I wanted a bit of background before I mention this other genealogical connection with information in the book.
His wife Bati del Wambara managed to escape the battlefield with a remnant of the Turkish soldiers, and they made their way back to Harar, where she rallied his followers. Intent on avenging her husband's death, she married his nephew Nur ibn Mujahid on condition that Nur would avenge Imam Ahmad's defeat.
I was communicating with a Reer-Garaad individual and he informed that in Gedo the Ina-Nuur (Son of "Amiir" Nuur) sub-clan and the Reer Nasir (Nasir-Axmed-Garad Ibrahim) (other subc-clans of Axmed-Garaad do not live in Gedo but in Harari and so forth) share the qaaran and mag (blood-money and collecting the wealth for clan use)
BEAUSE WAA ISKU HOOYO.
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Re: New fact I just learned; Axmed Gurey further understood.

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sadeboi wrote:
I was communicating with a Reer-Garaad individual and he informed that in Gedo the Ina-Nuur (Son of "Amiir" Nuur) sub-clan and the Reer Nasir (Nasir-Axmed-Garad Ibrahim) (other subc-clans of Axmed-Garaad do not live in Gedo but in Harari and so forth) share the qaaran and mag (blood-money and collecting the wealth for clan use)
BEAUSE WAA ISKU HOOYO.
are you crazy miseey waa laguu so wataa.
or maybe the biography of afweynee was not glamorous enough you are hijacking the abrayn guy from he gadabursi and claim to be someone from gedo.

look where gedo is horta.
then markaanaa islaa yaab.

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and look where awdal is, the ground where ahmed gurey is from?/

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Sade Markaa you are saying Ahmed Gurey & Amir Nur are the brother & cousin of Reer-Garaad?

I will ask my mom's friend she is one..

Dj u can't use that cause they only got to Gedo 150 yrs ago, we are talking about 500 yrs ago..
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gedo got border with this

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and awdal do not have any link to that culture too bad
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Re: New fact I just learned; Axmed Gurey further understood.

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some say he was bartire,some say wa shiqaal some say waa carab..i say allahu aclam,janadi fadowso alle ha ka waraabiyo.
there are mujahdiin in front of you today hala tageero or 100 years from now iyagaa la isku qabsan besheey ka soo jedeen.
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Re: New fact I just learned; Axmed Gurey further understood.

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war meesha awdal la yidhahdoo reer konfureed, wala bartire, nusstire, wala reer siyaad bare maa deganay.

Ahmed gurey grand kids are called the Abrayn of zeila.

at least come back with stories like gungis khan was reer siyaad and something similar.
that would be more entertaining!!
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LOOOOOOOL @ GUNGIS Khan. :lol: :lol:
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balayadaa indhayartee khan la yidhahdoo sidas bu uu magac xunyahay.

at least something like that
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Gengis Khan.. :lol:
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merci beaucoup
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Re: New fact I just learned; Axmed Gurey further understood.

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Will you guys stop claiming this Somali hero, he was fighting for Islam and greater Somalia, not tribalism and clan feud. he never claim a tribe, he wasn't a tribalist or by now we would have known his tribe.

Some say he was Bartire, or Ajuran, Karanle, Sheeqaal, marexan,
Arab, Gudabirse, Hareeri etc!

but stop it ppl, it's not relevant, and it won't bring you tribe glory, or you.

God bless his soul for defeating the enemies of Islam and somalia in East Africa.
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war ninka samarone bay iskuu dayayaan inay xadaa malintaa cad
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Re: New fact I just learned; Axmed Gurey further understood.

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:lol: :lol:

this Gadabursi ciyaal djibSomali makes me laugh

he thinks all Marehan live in Gedo dumbass

I'm from Galgadud. Marehan live in Wardhere, Shilabo, Liban. Marehan live in Harar.

Kuwa hada Gedo degan, 150 years, they were Rer Waqoyi.

idinka U dont understand what makes djibSomali upset. Gadabursi taariikh weyn ku ma leh Somalia. if U take what they claim Ahmed Gurey from them, dad taariikh la'aan bey noqonayaan.

Sidaas u fahma hadalkiisa
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Re: New fact I just learned; Axmed Gurey further understood.

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Babygirl- wrote:Sade Markaa you are saying Ahmed Gurey & Amir Nur are the brother & cousin of Reer-Garaad?

I will ask my mom's friend she is one..

Dj u can't use that cause they only got to Gedo 150 yrs ago, we are talking about 500 yrs ago..
Ahmed-gurey was reer-garaad..the garaad is a surname...reer-garaad waxey ka farcameen Ibrahim Mataan Ciis oo Garaad aha and so they took that name. Axmed gurey was the son of Ibrahim Mataan Ciis just like how the book says.


New-yrk. Anyone can claim them, but I have yet to see any qabiil and person who claims to be his offspring that can fit him in their genealogy.

The Book says Axmed-Gureys father was a Garaad Ibrahim.

The Reer-Garaad decedents of Axmed-Gurey abtiriskooda waa Axmed Garaad-Ibraam Mataan.

The book informs us of the kinship between Axmed-gurey and Amir Nuur.

Amir Nuur's offsprings trace their lineage as Nuur-Yusef-Mataan.

The Emir of Somalis at the time was Hiiraabe as the book mentions.

Hiiraabe waa Hiiraabe Mataan Ciis.

All these men are mentioned in the book and lived the same time. Marexaan say's they are Marexaan and they fit perfectly into the genealogy of Marexaan.

The book states that Amir-Nuur married the widow of Axmed-Gurey.

Today the offspring of Amir Nuur and offspring of Axmed-Gurey share the mag and qaaraan because waa isku bah.


Coolposion the guy is a bit slow, and due to lack of understanding of Somali history is killing him. What does present day Adal and the present location of some of the Marexaan have to do with each other?
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