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Has Pan-Somalism or Somaliweyn lost its appeal? Will we ever attain a Great Somalia? In case you dont think that will happen what type of unity you think or wish to see within federal Somali states in the Somali peninsula? I personally think we should first begin by creating a regional Somali union comparable to the GCC(Gulf Co-operation council) then we could move to a single monetary union such as the Euro. By creating the necessary economic developments , trade within the regional states would be more interconnected. But here comes the difficult part, political union. How will that be reachable?
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Pan-Somalism hasn't died but the original Somaliweyn is not anything but a pipe dream.

I would like to however see Ogaden becomes its own independent state, as well as the NE province of Kenya. They both have a larger populations than Djbouti and it would be nice to see if they can get separated from their imperial states. After that has been established, we could foresee a Somali peninsula states council where each nation would be independent of the others but united at the same time for a cause of stability and economic prosperity within the region, I would even welcome a separate state for Somaliland if that were to be the case.
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Somaliweyn can be a reality some day :som:
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No it is attainable. Through Federal framework. Read the TFG constitution. The days of irrensponsible Central Rule is over. But that does not welcome irresponsible federalism. Agan my advice is for you to read the TFG federal constitution and this answer will be reasonably answered.
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greenday wrote:Somaliweyn can be a reality some day :som:
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Somaliweyn nac nac nac walahi u peeps neva fn change damn homies when yawl gonna get over dis childhood story shiz. Itz jus a nac nac story dat will neva come true homie fo' get it homie real talk
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Bulletz wrote:Somaliweyn nac nac nac walahi u peeps neva fn change damn homies when yawl gonna get over dis childhood story shiz. Itz jus a nac nac story dat will neva come true homie fo' get it homie real talk
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This sick Bulletz person only comes on somalinet to insult somaliweyn or bantus :?
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^Aint u dat mad chick that only disses hawiye wat u on? You da biggest qabilist chick here
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In regards to Somali galbeed and Somaliland, we really dont have a cause do we? A future Somali government has to bring an end to the Sool - Sanaag dispute and that means bring Somaliland to the Somalia bandwagon, whether how much concessions is needed to achieve this or if their will be much political success is another thing.

As for Somali galbeed, the region as a whole is a 'disastor zone' and people there are actually being directly oppressed by government policies and actions, for more than 100 years now and it doesnt look like its coming to an end.

Conclusion? Somali-weyne is not some hawkish tyrannical dream but something that will actually bring peace and harmony to the Somali people.

A coward, apologist or a peace-nick cant run away from this one, it's not just a neccessity but a must.
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AhmedBoqor wrote:Pan-Somalism hasn't died but the original Somaliweyn is not anything but a pipe dream.

I would like to however see Ogaden becomes its own independent state, as well as the NE province of Kenya. They both have a larger populations than Djbouti and it would be nice to see if they can get separated from their imperial states. After that has been established, we could foresee a Somali peninsula states council where each nation would be independent of the others but united at the same time for a cause of stability and economic prosperity within the region, I would even welcome a separate state for Somaliland if that were to be the case.
I dont like this federalism, all it is one big barrier and obstacle to Somali unity. I mean whats the point of federalism exactly? do we not have the same culture? ethnicity? language? could you tell the difference between a Somali from Hargeisa to one from Kismaayo to one from Bosaaso excluding the accent; accents are hardly a big deal most countries have got regional accents.
We could have a decentralised rule and local authorities/councils with bigger power, and a formula should be devised which dis-allows some cities or regions to monopolise the budget.
All im saying is some changes in some areas could be fixed and we'd be better off, federalism only exacerbates clanism and divides this bloody country more. Next thing you know, youll have federal states breaking off or fight with one another, or fight for clan superiority because of clan grievances. Same gibberance that has been plaguing the country for decades.
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If ogaden becomes free, then she will join her somali brotherns. But for that to occur, we need the south to quit it's stubborn act and the north to stop its childish acts of aiming for separate nation. then surely one day, we'll attain greater somalia once again. I believe that is what Ethiopia and kenya fear for, hence why Ethiopia supports the breakaway for Somaliland. Don't let us be used against one another if we want success. Hope for it always, and add along a prayer.
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Ugly brother if ethiopia supported the break away republic they would have recognized it long time ago the thing is they fear a strong recognized somaliland more then they will ever fear somalia. Because somalia today for the next 50 years will not form a threat to ethiopia . Somaliland can acountry that was building its self the past two decades but lacks diplomatic recognioton ethiopia will continue to block that


As for somaliweyn it can only exist in the form of the EU as the topic opener suggested. I am also against federalism that it will undermine the central authority of the nation

Ogaden should be independent and should be an independent country as for Nfd only if they want independence
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Somaliland is fishing in the wrong side of the ocean if they think Ethiopia can offer them what they need. Ethiopia doesn't want a unified Somali because it fears, and it won't give Somaliland complete support and recognition because like you said it doesn't want to see Somaliland recognized. So they play us both, you by enticing you and luring you to believe they will recognize and us by using you and others like you against us. Ogaden and NFD will join Somalia period!
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Post by The_Emperior5 »

We dont really care what ethiopia wants we care what we want. Not what somalia want this is africa every country cares for what they want.

As for ogadeniyas independence well i think all the tribes in that region would want an independent country now if one clan decides they want to join another country that would mean that shinile. Ciise. Lands would want to be part of djbouti. Gaashaamo daroor harta sheikha north jijiga zone danot awbare and teferi ber and dembel would join somaliland . And then the ogaden lands can join somalia or kenya
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