The History of Treason
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The History of Treason
1899 - 1920 - MJ served as spies against the Sayiid Abdulle Hasan & offered information to help break his Army.
1955 - Majeerten lobbied for Italian-Somaliland independence to be delayed to 1970.
1969 - Majeerten hatched the plot to assasinate the President of Somalia, Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke
1982 - SSDF with the Mengistu Ethiopian Army capture Galdogob and the Ethiopian flag is raised on Somali territory.
2006 - Majeerten President Abdullahi Yusuf brings in the Ethiopians to capture Somali capital.
1955 - Majeerten lobbied for Italian-Somaliland independence to be delayed to 1970.
1969 - Majeerten hatched the plot to assasinate the President of Somalia, Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke
1982 - SSDF with the Mengistu Ethiopian Army capture Galdogob and the Ethiopian flag is raised on Somali territory.
2006 - Majeerten President Abdullahi Yusuf brings in the Ethiopians to capture Somali capital.
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Sxb the movement woulda spread from north to south. He was supported from the depths of somali galbeed because after he captured ceel buur and he went north to Hobyo he was prevented by back bridged habar gidr and italians. We might have been indepent in the 20's from italy but it was habr gidr who were the reasons for 40 years of occupation 
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AW
Ok lets go back and review what HG did and contributed to somali history in the mean time shall we....equal oppurtunity right??
Why don you do that...cos you will say I am biased if I did..eventhough I am not claiming to be an MJ..
1899 - 1920 - Hg was where???
1955 - Hg was wher again??
And 1969- 2006 - HG was doing what???
PS. Its Ironic that Lug is finally cheering for you..
Ok lets go back and review what HG did and contributed to somali history in the mean time shall we....equal oppurtunity right??
Why don you do that...cos you will say I am biased if I did..eventhough I am not claiming to be an MJ..
1899 - 1920 - Hg was where???
1955 - Hg was wher again??
And 1969- 2006 - HG was doing what???
PS. Its Ironic that Lug is finally cheering for you..
AW
THIS IS HAWIYE TREACHORY. Cuqdad was the reason we were occupied.
The Hiraab (Hawiye) grew to become a powerless institution, as the confederated clans bickered amongst themselves. In the Majeerteen clan the looser in a Civil War, the rebelling Yusuf Ali Kenadid, had been exiled to Arabia by sultan Boqor Isman Mahamud after a failed coup d'etat. He came back from Arabia, but now avoided further conflict with his fellow Majeerteen and invaded the region of Hobyo, which was under the reign of the Hawiye, with an army of mercenaries from Hadramut in 1878. After defeating the Hawiye Imamate, he established himself as the Sultan of Hobyo.
Yuusuf Ali Keenadid was very ambitious, and had not lost his desire to be Sultan of Majeerteen. He sought to gain Italian support in order to defeat his old rival, Boqor Ismaan Mahamuud, and to expand his Sultanate of Hobyo north of the Warshekh region at the expense of the Sultanate of Zanzibar, and so in December of the year 1888, he agreed to Hobyo becoming a protectorate of Italy. Soon afterwards however, Boqor Isman Mahamud also signed a protectorate agreement, and the Sultan of Zanzibar his own with the British, so Yusuf Ali's expansionist plans were stifled. Hobyo's borders were agreed upon by bilateral Italian-British negotiations to constitute the territory from El-Dhere through to Dusa-Mareb in the south-west, from Galladi to Galkayo in the west, from Jerriban to Garad in the north-east, and the Indian Ocean in the east.
As the protectorate agreement was not working quite as he had wished, it comes as no surprise that Yusuf Ali Kenadid refused the Italians' request in April of 1903 that he allow a contingent of British troops to disembark in Hobyo to facilitate their conflict with the the forces of the Sayyid Mohammed Abdullah Hassan, or "Mad Mullah". This controversy would be a big contributor to the Italian decision to annex the sultanate directly in 1925.
With the rise of Fascism in Italy, the Italian government decided to end the independence of their Somali protectorates. The Italians placed Governor Cesare Maria De Vecchi in charge of Italian Somaliland on 15 December 1923 as the first phase in their "La Grande Somalia" plan for the region. On 10 July 1925 Benito Mussolini gave the order for Governor De Vecchi to annex Hobyo.
De Vecchi first hoped that he could disarm the sultanates, and so he created a colonial force, the Corpo Zaptié, to do just that. Hobyo and Majerteen reacted with alarm to the Italian disarmament plan, and put aside their now-generation-old enmity, and vowed to support each other in preserving their independence.
De Vecchi ordered his Corpo Zaptié to invade Hobyo on 1 October 1925, and had overrun the sultanate by November. The sultan, Ali Yusuf Kenadid (son of Yusuf Ali Kenadid) surrendered, and Hobyo became an administrative division of Mussolini's Italy.
Omar Samatar's Rebellion (November 1925 to January 1926)
Though victorious against the sultan's forces, the populace had yet to accept Italian rule without a fight. Commissioner Trivulzio, assigned with administering Hobyo, reported movement of armed men towards the borders of the sultanate before the annexation and afterwards. As preparations were underway to continue the Corpo Zaptié's advance into Majeerteen, a new threat emerged.
One of Sultan Ali Yusuf's commanders, Omar Samatar, attacked and captured El-Bur on the 9th of November. The local populace sided with Omar, and soon enough the Italians had a full scale revolution on their hands after Omar followed up his previous success with the capture of El-Dhere. The Corpo Zaptié tried and failed to recapture El-Bur from Omar. By the 15th of November the Italians had fled to Bud Bud, ambushed by partisans the whole way and rather diminished in forces and resolve.
A third attempt was planned, but before it could be executed the commander of the operation, Lieutenant-Colonel Splendorelli, was ambushed and killed between Bud Bud and Bula Barde. Italian morale hit rock bottom, and Hobyo seemed a lost cause as Omar stood poised to reconquer Hobyo itself. In an attempt to salvage the situation, governor De Vecchi requested two battalions from Eritrea and assumed personal command. The rebellion soon spilled over the borders into the Benadir and Western Somaliland, and Omar grew increasingly powerful.
The disaster in Hobyo shocked Italian policymakers in Rome. It was the Adwa fiasco of the Abyssinian War all over again, and Italy's plans for East Africa were unraveling before their very eyes. Blame soon fell on Governor De Vecchi, who's perceived incompetence was blamed for Omar's rise. Rome instructed De Vecchi that he was to receive the reinforcement from Eritrea, but that the commander of the Eritrean battalions was to assume the military command and De Vecchi was confined to Mogadishu and limited to an administrative role. The commander was to report directly to Rome, bypassing De Vecchi entirely.
As the situation was extremely confused, De Vecchi took former Sultan Ali Yusuf with him to Mogadishu. Mussolini vowed to reconquer all of Hobyo and move on to Majertin by any means necessary. Even reinstating Ali Yusuf was considered. However, the clans had already sided with Omar Samatar, so this was not as viable an option as it would appear.
Before the reinforcements arrived, De Vecchi chose the age old tactic of divide and rule, and offered great rewards, money and prestige to any clans who chose to support the Italians. Considering the eons-old clan rivalries which have been the bane of Somali states from time immemorial, it is a wonder this strategy hadn't been attempted sooner, and turned out to be far more successful than the Eritrean regiments in reversing the rebellion.
With the steam taken out of the rebellion, and the military forces heavily reinforced with the battalions from Eritrea, the Italians retook El-Buur on December 26 1925, and compelled Omar Samatar to retreat into Western Somaliland.
THIS IS HAWIYE TREACHORY. Cuqdad was the reason we were occupied.
The Hiraab (Hawiye) grew to become a powerless institution, as the confederated clans bickered amongst themselves. In the Majeerteen clan the looser in a Civil War, the rebelling Yusuf Ali Kenadid, had been exiled to Arabia by sultan Boqor Isman Mahamud after a failed coup d'etat. He came back from Arabia, but now avoided further conflict with his fellow Majeerteen and invaded the region of Hobyo, which was under the reign of the Hawiye, with an army of mercenaries from Hadramut in 1878. After defeating the Hawiye Imamate, he established himself as the Sultan of Hobyo.
Yuusuf Ali Keenadid was very ambitious, and had not lost his desire to be Sultan of Majeerteen. He sought to gain Italian support in order to defeat his old rival, Boqor Ismaan Mahamuud, and to expand his Sultanate of Hobyo north of the Warshekh region at the expense of the Sultanate of Zanzibar, and so in December of the year 1888, he agreed to Hobyo becoming a protectorate of Italy. Soon afterwards however, Boqor Isman Mahamud also signed a protectorate agreement, and the Sultan of Zanzibar his own with the British, so Yusuf Ali's expansionist plans were stifled. Hobyo's borders were agreed upon by bilateral Italian-British negotiations to constitute the territory from El-Dhere through to Dusa-Mareb in the south-west, from Galladi to Galkayo in the west, from Jerriban to Garad in the north-east, and the Indian Ocean in the east.
As the protectorate agreement was not working quite as he had wished, it comes as no surprise that Yusuf Ali Kenadid refused the Italians' request in April of 1903 that he allow a contingent of British troops to disembark in Hobyo to facilitate their conflict with the the forces of the Sayyid Mohammed Abdullah Hassan, or "Mad Mullah". This controversy would be a big contributor to the Italian decision to annex the sultanate directly in 1925.
With the rise of Fascism in Italy, the Italian government decided to end the independence of their Somali protectorates. The Italians placed Governor Cesare Maria De Vecchi in charge of Italian Somaliland on 15 December 1923 as the first phase in their "La Grande Somalia" plan for the region. On 10 July 1925 Benito Mussolini gave the order for Governor De Vecchi to annex Hobyo.
De Vecchi first hoped that he could disarm the sultanates, and so he created a colonial force, the Corpo Zaptié, to do just that. Hobyo and Majerteen reacted with alarm to the Italian disarmament plan, and put aside their now-generation-old enmity, and vowed to support each other in preserving their independence.
De Vecchi ordered his Corpo Zaptié to invade Hobyo on 1 October 1925, and had overrun the sultanate by November. The sultan, Ali Yusuf Kenadid (son of Yusuf Ali Kenadid) surrendered, and Hobyo became an administrative division of Mussolini's Italy.
Omar Samatar's Rebellion (November 1925 to January 1926)
Though victorious against the sultan's forces, the populace had yet to accept Italian rule without a fight. Commissioner Trivulzio, assigned with administering Hobyo, reported movement of armed men towards the borders of the sultanate before the annexation and afterwards. As preparations were underway to continue the Corpo Zaptié's advance into Majeerteen, a new threat emerged.
One of Sultan Ali Yusuf's commanders, Omar Samatar, attacked and captured El-Bur on the 9th of November. The local populace sided with Omar, and soon enough the Italians had a full scale revolution on their hands after Omar followed up his previous success with the capture of El-Dhere. The Corpo Zaptié tried and failed to recapture El-Bur from Omar. By the 15th of November the Italians had fled to Bud Bud, ambushed by partisans the whole way and rather diminished in forces and resolve.
A third attempt was planned, but before it could be executed the commander of the operation, Lieutenant-Colonel Splendorelli, was ambushed and killed between Bud Bud and Bula Barde. Italian morale hit rock bottom, and Hobyo seemed a lost cause as Omar stood poised to reconquer Hobyo itself. In an attempt to salvage the situation, governor De Vecchi requested two battalions from Eritrea and assumed personal command. The rebellion soon spilled over the borders into the Benadir and Western Somaliland, and Omar grew increasingly powerful.
The disaster in Hobyo shocked Italian policymakers in Rome. It was the Adwa fiasco of the Abyssinian War all over again, and Italy's plans for East Africa were unraveling before their very eyes. Blame soon fell on Governor De Vecchi, who's perceived incompetence was blamed for Omar's rise. Rome instructed De Vecchi that he was to receive the reinforcement from Eritrea, but that the commander of the Eritrean battalions was to assume the military command and De Vecchi was confined to Mogadishu and limited to an administrative role. The commander was to report directly to Rome, bypassing De Vecchi entirely.
As the situation was extremely confused, De Vecchi took former Sultan Ali Yusuf with him to Mogadishu. Mussolini vowed to reconquer all of Hobyo and move on to Majertin by any means necessary. Even reinstating Ali Yusuf was considered. However, the clans had already sided with Omar Samatar, so this was not as viable an option as it would appear.
Before the reinforcements arrived, De Vecchi chose the age old tactic of divide and rule, and offered great rewards, money and prestige to any clans who chose to support the Italians. Considering the eons-old clan rivalries which have been the bane of Somali states from time immemorial, it is a wonder this strategy hadn't been attempted sooner, and turned out to be far more successful than the Eritrean regiments in reversing the rebellion.
With the steam taken out of the rebellion, and the military forces heavily reinforced with the battalions from Eritrea, the Italians retook El-Buur on December 26 1925, and compelled Omar Samatar to retreat into Western Somaliland.
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[quote="Sir-Luggoyo"][quote="Cawar"]AW
eventhough I am not claiming to be an MJ..
:[/quote]
Kaalay adiga maxaa fuleynimada kuugu wacan? Whether you disclaim MJ or not, you are definetely doing your part of the services, and mind you, we ain't kids, your action speaks louder than your words[/quote]
You is calling me FULAy in that department??

eventhough I am not claiming to be an MJ..
:[/quote]
Kaalay adiga maxaa fuleynimada kuugu wacan? Whether you disclaim MJ or not, you are definetely doing your part of the services, and mind you, we ain't kids, your action speaks louder than your words[/quote]
You is calling me FULAy in that department??
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[quote="Cawar"][quote="Sir-Luggoyo"][quote="Cawar"]AW
eventhough I am not claiming to be an MJ..
:[/quote]
Kaalay adiga maxaa fuleynimada kuugu wacan? Whether you disclaim MJ or not, you are definetely doing your part of the services, and mind you, we ain't kids, your action speaks louder than your words[/quote]
You is calling me FULAy in that department??

[/quote]
Yeah, I am calling you fulay in that dept. The difference between you and me is, I never side with any clan, adigu laakiin waxaad u soo xuubsiibatay Majertenimo oo kuwii beryahaad is qarqarinaysay ka hadli jiray xitaa waxaad ku dhaaftay 99 mph, nowadays you are eating and drinking Majerten. Maybe what Binz said is true, you are the MJ yaryar and you were ashamed b4, but since now you believe inaad waddankii qabsateen, you shook off the veil

eventhough I am not claiming to be an MJ..
:[/quote]
Kaalay adiga maxaa fuleynimada kuugu wacan? Whether you disclaim MJ or not, you are definetely doing your part of the services, and mind you, we ain't kids, your action speaks louder than your words[/quote]
You is calling me FULAy in that department??
[/quote]
Yeah, I am calling you fulay in that dept. The difference between you and me is, I never side with any clan, adigu laakiin waxaad u soo xuubsiibatay Majertenimo oo kuwii beryahaad is qarqarinaysay ka hadli jiray xitaa waxaad ku dhaaftay 99 mph, nowadays you are eating and drinking Majerten. Maybe what Binz said is true, you are the MJ yaryar and you were ashamed b4, but since now you believe inaad waddankii qabsateen, you shook off the veil
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