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     | Tuesday, October 31, 2000 - 05:27 pm WE ALL KNOW THAT GOVERMENTS FROM SYRIA TO YEMEN AND MAROCCO TO BAHRAIN ARE ENEMY OF THE ARAB WORLD AND YOU PEOPLE SOW THE EXAMPLES OF PALASTAIN AND SHARMAL SHEEKH INTERTAINMENT.WELL, MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE REAL SOLUTION DO WE THE PEOPLE OF ARAB WORLD PARSUE GANDHI STYLE MOVEMENT OR UNITE AND FIGHT WITH AT LEAST DIGNITY?? AFEEF WALAAL DISCUTIONKA AANU KU EKEYNO ARINTAN HANOO LEEXININA SOOMAALIYA CIVIL WAR THANXX SALAAMU CALAYKUM
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| | Wednesday, November 01, 2000 - 04:45 am "WE ALL KNOW THAT GOVERMENTS FROM SYRIA TO YEMEN AND MAROCCO TO BAHRAIN ARE ENEMY OF THE ARAB WORLD" if they are, they are enemy to each other, right? "AND YOU PEOPLE SOW THE EXAMPLES OF PALASTAIN AND SHARMAL SHEEKH INTERTAINMENT" could you please tell me more about this shamal sheekh entertainment? "WELL, MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE REAL SOLUTION DO WE THE PEOPLE OF ARAB WORLD" i do not think somalis are the people of arab world? are you in some where in arabia, xagaafe yare? "PARSUE GANDHI STYLE MOVEMENT OR UNITE AND FIGHT WITH AT LEAST DIGNITY?? " well, if gandi style does not let the arabs unite and instead lets them loose their dignity, then by all means let them have unity and fight in dignity, win or loose. ;-) "AFEEF WALAAL DISCUTIONKA AANU KU EKEYNO ARINTAN HANOO LEEXININA SOOMAALIYA CIVIL WAR" waayahay. laakiin haddii aad adiga nagu sheegtey "WE THE PEOPLE OF ARAB WORLD", discutionka wuu soo geli karaa soomaaliya civil war. haddii ay "GOVERMENTS FROM SYRIA TO YEMEN AND MAROCCO TO BAHRAIN ARE ENEMY OF THE ARAB WORLD", then the somalis are enemy to other somalis, right? ;-) "THANXX" you're welcome.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 03:20 pm XY Dameer baad tahay. Maxaa nooga jira carabta oo aan dadnimo aheen? Ma nooga dhow yihiin yuhuudda mase ayagaa isu dhow? Dadka gabalkaas deggan waxaan jecelnahay inay heshiiyaan, laakiin yuhuud iyo carabi ma nakala xigaan. Bashar ilaahay abuurtay lee waaye. Wax nooga jiraa ma jiro. Teeda kale magacaan doqonka ah ee faraha badan intee ka keentay?
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 09:27 pm Galool, saaxiib sida jaahilnimada ah ee aad u hadlayso waa kuu dadnimo xumo mida kale se carab badankood waa muslim oo muslimkuna waa kuu walaal adoon tixraacayn casrigan indha sarcaadka ah ogona in uu ka dhashay qof inta eebe uumay ugu qayr badan (nabiga)css yuhuudna don't care wether you r monkey or blue eyes and brown hair capichi teeda kalena magacuna magac laga miskiino maahee iska ilaali.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 09:41 pm ASAD, waan kuu jawaabi laayee nasiib wanaag adiga unbaa isku jawaabay sidaa darteed waan ku faraxsanahay in mudadii aad psychiatric hospitalka ku jirtay ay kuu soo dhamaatay sabatoo ah waxaad in dhawaalaba la il darneed cudurkan baryahan danbe nagu soo kordhay ee layiraahdo moderatephopia. marka nin yahoow sheekooyinkii ahaay shalaat dhalatay hortaa ayaan shubi jiray inta iska dhaafto runta waad ogtahayee criticism kaan aad qaladka ka fahansan tahay inta iska dhaafto xaqiiqda raac oo waari maysideed war hagaagsan ha kaa haro.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:38 pm lol@Xagaafe yare. Waad iga qoslisay abooye, Asad ma ogayn inuu ku jiro mentel hospitalka. Abooye, waa la fahma, siduu willkan Asad wax u Qoro, Ilmaha dhashay xataa sidaa wax ma u qoro. Adiga dhan waa ku Nacsiinayaa Topica. maxaa jira wali ani ma arag Asad oo ku jawaabaya...sida loo jawaabo...will laba kalmad ma isku xiri karo Mida kale, Macnihii doodu lahayd waa lumiyaa, waayo meesha dhan wuxuu ka dhigaa, sidii La tirsasho....sis laba qof oo isla TirsanaYa.. Markaa waxaan Asad kula talin lahaa, bedel sida aad wax u Qorto, waayo xiiso malaha, mana la fahmayo fikradaada.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 05:30 am "waan kuu jawaabi laayee nasiib wanaag adiga unbaa isku jawaabay sidaa darteed waan ku faraxsanahay in mudadii aad psychiatric hospitalka ku jirtay ay kuu soo dhamaatay" lol "sabatoo ah waxaad in dhawaalaba la il darneed cudurkan baryahan danbe nagu soo kordhay ee layiraahdo moderatephopia." moderatephia? waa maxay moderatephia? ;-) "marka nin yahoow sheekooyinkii ahaay shalaat dhalatay hortaa ayaan shubi jiray" lol "inta iska dhaafto runta" runta in la iska dhaafo waa xuntahay. ;-) "waad ogtahayee criticism kaan aad qaladka ka fahansan tahay" ii sharax waxa aan qaladka ka fahansanahay, min fad lag "inta iska dhaafto xaqiiqda raac oo waari maysideed war hagaagsan ha kaa haro." waan jeclahay in aan xaqiiqda raaco ee waayahayee, ii sheeg waxa xaqiiqda ah oo aad adiga garanaysid oo aan aniga garanayn.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 05:41 am "Waad iga qoslisay abooye, Asad ma ogayn inuu ku jiro mentel hospitalka." anigaba ma ogayn. ;-) "Abooye, waa la fahma, siduu willkan Asad wax u Qoro, Ilmaha dhashay xataa sidaa wax ma u qoro." lol "Adiga dhan waa ku Nacsiinayaa Topica." lol "maxaa jira wali ani ma arag Asad oo ku jawaabaya...sida loo jawaabo...will laba kalmad ma isku xiri karo" lol "Mida kale, Macnihii doodu lahayd waa lumiyaa" ma aan dhumin ee sidaas ayay adiga kula tahay. ;-) "waayo meesha dhan wuxuu ka dhigaa, sidii La tirsasho....sis laba qof oo isla TirsanaYa.." lol. dood oo dhan baa ah la tirsasho oo isla tirsanaya. ;-) "Markaa waxaan Asad kula talin lahaa, bedel sida aad wax u Qorto" waa lagaa diidey. dictatornimo iyo tuusashonimo ma yeelaayo. aniga cidna ma amraayo in ay wax ika bedelaan sida ay wax u qoraan ama figradahooda ee tayda ayaa soo jeediyaa aniga oo isticmaalaayo sida aan u arko in ay fiican tahay. ;-) "waayo xiiso malaha" aniga shaqadayda ma aha in aa u xiiseeyo ama mada daaliyo dadka halkaan yimaada. ;-) "mana la fahmayo fikradaada." anigaba ma fahmi waxyaalahay badankood oo halkaan lagu soo qoro, laakiin su'aalo badan baan waydiiyaa si aan u fahmo fikradaha qofka. dadka fikradahooda ma caayo mana amro mana baryootamo ee waxaan isku dayaa in aa figradahayga soo jeediyo anigoo su'aalaayo qofka.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 06:17 am lol @ asad. Anna carafa iszaay nebadel daarikhtak. Laziim usriit somalinet dedaawar laak caalaa carouza :-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 06:24 am hikima, "anna carafa" oo kaliya ayaan ka fahmay waxa aad qortey ee ii micnee inta kale. ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 06:41 am XY Waa iga raysay. Raalli noqo. Waan ka xumahay in aan dameer kugu sheegay. Dameer ma tihid, wax badan se ma ogid. Carab hadday rabto inay yuhuud iska dhiciso ayadaa isku filan. 200 oo milyan oo carab ahaa caalamkan ku nool. Carab ma tihid, mana noqonaysid si kasta oo aad isku koolleyso. Nin madow oo Afrikaan ahaa tahay. Proud saas ku ahow. Sanka taag oo sarraxa balooli. Carab u naagesyskan halla dhaafo. Yuhuud weligeed wax ay soomali yeeshay ma jirto. Run ahaan haddii dawlo Soomaali ahi dhalato, waxaan ku boorrin lahaa inay xariir diblomaasi la yeelato Israel. Masar, urdun, Qatar, Morocco, Tunisia intuba xariir bay la leeyihiin yahuud. Maxaa annaga noo diiday?Carab maan ka carabsannahay?
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 06:50 am lol I said i know how we could change ur style...the family of somalinet needs to search a wife for you. (smile) Secondly, you said that somalis are not arabs. But what about those who originally were arabs such as the people of Brava. Even some somali tribes say that their forefathers were arabs such as the Darood...who claim that they came from Syria & Isaaqs' who claim that their great grandfather was Iraqi!!! peace...
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 07:07 am "I said i know how we could change ur style..the family of somalinet needs to search a wife for you. (smile)" just one wife? ;-). can i request three more of them? ;-). if i do not get my request, i'll not change my style. ;-) "Secondly, you said that somalis are not arabs." i know that i'm not an arab and i'm a somali. ;-) "But what about those who originally were arabs such as the people of Brava." reer baraaye are not arabs. i think they are mixed of somali puntu and portuguese, i heard. ;-) "Even some somali tribes say that their forefathers were arabs such as the Darood' who claim that they came from Syria & Isaaqs' who claim that their great grandfather was Iraqi!!! " i'm of darood by tribe, but my family do not claim to have came from the arabs. we were always africans.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 07:13 am Hakima I have to agree with asad on this. Somalis are not Arabs, even the minority groups in places like Brava. It is true that some clans claim arab ancestry but the concept is frankly ludicrous. We are black africans and we should be proud of who we are.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 07:19 am asad, "reer baraaye(!) are not arabs, i think they are mixed of somali punto and portuguese, i heard" Since your source is from the heard and say, that does not mean that they are not arabs. "i'm of darood...but my family do not claim that" That is weird...my family is darood and they do claim that. So that can't be, unless we do have two darood tribes in Somalia :-) peace...
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 07:23 am Galool, If they are not arabs? who are they? answer that only if u can only say more than that they r just africans. peace...
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 07:30 am "Since your source is from the heard and say, that does not mean that they are not arabs." i said i think; i did not say what i heard was a fact, but your source could be wrong too and my source could be right, right? ;-) "That is weird...my family is darood and they do claim that. So that can't be, unless we do have two darood tribes in Somalia :-)" maybe the difference is that my family are proud of their race (africans)--- as i'm proud to be an african. i have never and will never consider myself as being arab. however, this does not mean i'm better than arabs, but i'm just saying i'm happy to be a musilim/african/black/somali, but never an arab. ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 08:23 am Hakima OK here we go. Somalis are ethnically Hamites, which means the people ethnically closest to us are the Afars and the Oromo of Ethiopia. Remember, the Arabs, like the jews and some of the major Ethiopian tribes like Amhara are Semites. Our ethnic non-proximity can now be scientifically proven through DNA profiling although this has not been done yet. Our language is Eastern Cushite, just like the Afar and Oromo languages which confirms that the above two tribes are our kith and kin. This does not mean we did not have a long cultural and trade relations with the Arab Peninsula and Egypt. But the facts are straightforward. Ethnically we are as different to the Arabs as any two human groups can be. Our ethnic heritage lies in Ethiopia, not across the Red sea.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 09:10 am Galool, Thanks for that information but i need to do more research on my part as soon as i have time for it (insha-allah). On the other hand, your theory could be simply refuted. The original people who lived in that part of the world( namely Somalia) could be what you just mentioned. But if i think little bit...what about migrations of people through out of history. Don't you think that the natives might have been forced to move from the horn of africa like the europeans did to the natives of the so-called United States Of America. And, that new settlers lived in that area. If you look at the word Mogadisho...it was initially Maagact Shah....and later was known as its current name. Maagact in arabic means the place to sit on... Shah...what comes to my mind is Persia. Secondly, the word Hamer..in the old arabic its gold. So, Galool, ur theory in no way does include the variable of human movements through out time. asad, "I said I think, I didn't say what i heard was fact but your source could be wrong too..." Well, at least there is 50-50 chance. I can live with that :-) "Maybe my family are proud of their race" So do my family :-) peace...
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 09:45 am Hakima Of course there were migrations in that part of the world. And many of the old coastal towns in Somalia like Brava,Merca, Mogadishu were probably built by non-mainstream somali coastal settlers.Non of that changes the facts of the matter. Somalis are Africans and we are culturally, ethnically and linguistically distinct from the Arabs. No one is actually quite sure where the name Mogadishu comes from. Your theory as valid as any. I heard the one that says that the name is actually a corruption of Maqal-disho, which means the place where the lambs die. However, people are what they believe themselves to be. If you believe you are an Arab, then you are and nobody has the right to tell you are otherwise. I believe I am an African, and I will never be anything but that. Remain beautiful.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 10:55 am -----maybe my family are proud of their race (africans)----- "So do my family :-)" of being arabs, right? ;-) let me ask you this: can you go and look at yourself in the mirror, then repeat after me, and say: I'M BLACK AND I AM PROUD. ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 11:24 am galool, let's look at your *his story*. if (as you say) some of the ethipians are semites, and since somalis are not semites, then why does our ethnic heritage lie in ethiopia? in addition, since ethnically somalis are as different to the arabs as any two human groups can be (as you say) then what about the ethiopians---are not they ethnically as different to the arabs as any two human groups can be? i mean since the somalis are not ethnically semites, then ethiopians are not ethnically semites, right? ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 11:40 am i mean, galool, if you go to any amhaar (a knowledgeable amhaar or a layman amhaar) and you ask him is he or she ethinically a semite like an arab, he or she (like me) will tell you that he or she has nothing to do with arabs. ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 12:31 pm Asad your arguments are even more pointless than usual. Some Ethiopian ethnic groups like the Amharas are Semites. And no I don't think they will argue against the point unless their name is asad. Other Ethiopian groups like the Afars and the Oromos are Hamites, and are therefore ethnically identical to us. That is why I said our heritage lies there. Ethiopian Amharas know they are Africans, but they also know they are semites and may be ethnically related to the peoples of the middle east- certainly their language, Amharic is classed as Semitic language while Somali considered to be Hamitic ie related to languages like the Berber.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 02:14 pm asad, Did i...or did i say I m an arab? I said...they claim...do u understand that word. and if i look at the mirror...all i see is A gorgeous young lady...which i m proud of. peace...
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 02:18 pm "Some Ethiopian ethnic groups like the Amharas are Semites." well, like some ethiopians, some somalis claim to came from semites too. the difference is that the ethiopians say that they are the hebews tribes and the somalis say that they are from arabs tribes. ;-) "Other Ethiopian groups like the Afars and the Oromos are Hamites, and are therefore ethnically identical to us. That is why I said our heritage lies there. " and amhaaras are not ethnically indentical to us? ;-) "Ethiopian Amharas know they are Africans" that is right. and those africans (somalis and ethiopians) who say they are hebrews/arabs are kidding to themselves, right?  in fact, when these afrcians say they are hebrews/arabs, the jewish and arabs laugh at them. ;-) "but they also know they are semites" what if they tell you that they are not and do not have arab and jews heritage in them, and they deny what you are saying of them, would you force them? ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 02:21 pm "asad, Did i...or did i say I m an arab?" i do not know, did you? ;-) "and if i look at the mirror...all i see is A gorgeous young lady...which i m proud of." i'm glad you said that. ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 07:48 pm Asad, "who say they are hebrew/arabs are kidding themselves...when these africans say they are hebrew/arabs, the jewish and arabs laugh at them" Abti, you are wrong.The Jews were africans. And, not all that say nowadays that they are arabs were originally arabs rather became arabs. Read History don't invent a new one :-) peace...
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 08:34 pm "Abti, you are wrong. The Jews were africans." my niece, were isxaaq and yacquub africans? ;-) "And, not all that say nowadays that they are arabs were originally arabs rather became arabs." are you saying that there people who actually convert to arabism? i mean if you are saying this, then it explains why africans (somalis/daroods) say they are arabs. ;-) "Read History don't invent a new one :-)" do you mean the *his story* that says isxaaq and yacquub were africans? ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 09:06 pm Asad, fasaar al-maa baacd juhdin inahu maa :-) peace...
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 09:16 pm transilate what you wrote, please. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 03:47 pm asad, oo waxaan ku waydiiyey ma dhaajiskaad ka heshaa mise wax inaad kororsato ayaad doonaysaa waa adigan dadka su'aasha ku soo celinaayee????????? galool apologize excepted! walaal carab isku dhajis maahinee nimanku diin baa inaga dhaxaysa taasina micnaheedu waa WE ARE BROTHERSSSSSSSS CAPICHI. hakiima caalim, thanks for your participation and comments. madaxaaga kor mijahaagana hoos. to kuligiin, waligay ma arag dad idinka fallacy badan jihaad aan ku jinay qabiil iyo race aad nasoo dhex geliseen maryoolay gacan aan idiin taagay.lol
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 04:19 pm "asad, oo waxaan ku waydiiyey ma dhaajiskaad ka heshaa" dhaashid maxaa waaye? ;-) "mise wax inaad kororsato ayaad doonaysaa. waa adigan dadka su'aasha ku soo celinaayee?????????"" waxaan rabaa in aa fahmo meesha uu qofka ka imaanaayo (figradihiisa) sidaas daraadeed ayaan su'aalah u waydiiyaa si aan ugu qaldabmid oo aan wax uga sheegin. ;-). maxaa ladhihi jirey------wax is waydiin ma xumee wax............ ;-)
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