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     | Wednesday, November 01, 2000 - 08:30 am CAN A MAN RAPE HIS WIFE IF THEY ARE MARRIED?
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| | Wednesday, November 01, 2000 - 09:34 am NO.
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| | Wednesday, November 01, 2000 - 09:44 am I seek refuge from the Devil and his whispers in Allah (swt) why would anyone say this?
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| | Wednesday, November 01, 2000 - 01:34 pm You must have a very sick mind to ask a question like that. Rape is dehumanizing and undignifying marriage is sacred through it honour is preserved and married individuals owe to one other nothing but luv and respect. Next time before you ask think.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 11:02 am "CAN A MAN RAPE HIS WIFE IF THEY ARE MARRIED?" yes, he can, but the act is not enjoyable, in fact, it is an awful act. what if she cuts his private part with knife (can’t she do it while he is sleep) ?
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 11:08 am Asad: YOU ARE SICK. and how on earth did you come to such a ridiculous conclusion.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 11:44 am Rape by any form is rape. If the wife does not consent to the act and the husband forces himself on her. THAT IS RAPE PERIOD. Women have legal recourse and can press charges, unless they still live in the land of the barbarians aka Somalia
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 11:46 am lol asad you're crazy man,,,,but infact the same sotry hapen in San Fransisco california on 98. about he Q. YES, if she is not willing, and he forces her, than that is rape.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 12:16 pm "Asad: YOU ARE SICK. and how on earth did you come to such a ridiculous conclusion" well, the fact is that a man can rape his wife if he is stronger than she is. in fact, it happens all the time. in addition, yes, a woman can retaliate and cut her husband's private part with knife while he is sleep. in fact, it happened to many men. does pointing out this fact make me sick? i do not think so. ;-) "asad you're crazy man,,,,but infact the same sotry hapen in San Fransisco california on 98." it also happened in boston in 1993 to a man by the name of john bobbitt while he was sleep after he raped her.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 12:19 pm "Women have legal recourse and can press charges, unless they still live in the land of the barbarians aka Somalia" women can also take the law into their hands by retaliating and cutting their husband's private parts with knives in barbarian way as it happens in the west, right? ;-)
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 12:26 pm "Lorena Bobbitt arrested; men relive fears: © Copyright 1998 By JEFF LANGLEY Few people would know or care about the former Lorena Bobbitt's latest trouble, if the woman hadn't gained earlier worldwide infamy for cutting off her sleeping husband's penis with a kitchen knife. The woman severed the "frankfurter" with one swipe in June 1993. She carried the detached "wiener" with her when she left, but tossed the amputated "braunschweiger" along the road. The "hot dog" was recovered and reattached in a nine-hour operation, leaving the "salami" mostly functional. Mrs. Bobbitt said she bobbed Mr. Bobbitt's "bologna" because he raped her and abused her for years. Mr. Bobbitt, however, was found not guilty of raping his wife. Later, in January 1994, jurors found Mrs. Bobbitt not guilty by reason of insanity on a charge of "malicious wounding," a legally polite term for lopping off her husband's "knockwurst." She was ordered to spend 45 days in a mental hospital. Bobbitt parlayed his surgically reattached "Vienna sausage" into a new career. He was the main character in a fast-selling porno movie, "John Wayne Bobbitt--Uncut," and worked as a male stripper and on the talk-show circuit. The Bobbitts' 15 minutes of fame would be over, if not for Lorena's December arrest. An Associated Press story about the arrest said John Bobbitt, 30, has stopped putting his "tube steak" on display as sleazy entertainment. He moved to Nevada to live near four of his five brothers, and in January, he found a new job. Bobbitt was hired as a host, bartender and limousine driver for a legal whorehouse near Carson City. Lorena Bobbitt wasn't the first or the last woman to lop off her mate's "chorizo y huevos," and some men even chop their own. Aurelia Macias of Los Angeles was charged at a November 1993 hearing with snipping off her sleeping husband's testicles with heavy shears. "The 'eggs' were not found," the Los Angeles Times reported. Reuters News Service reported last spring that a 58-year-old woman in Vilnius, Lithuania, was arrested after she tried to castrate her husband. "She did succeed to cut off one of her husband's 'ova.' Apparently, the woman was under the influence of alcohol. The police searched the house and found the missing 'embryo' on top of a wardrobe with a surgeon's knife next to it," the news service reported. On Dec. 5, a California man told police a woman known only as "Brenda" severed his "bratwurst" to the base with an X-Acto razor-blade knife, the AP reported. Alan Hall, a 48-year-old pipe fitter, told police Brenda came to his trailer, where they had sex. Hall told police the woman said she cut off his "hot link" in retaliation for Hall killing her female friend in the early 1980s. But Hall admitted slicing off his own "liverwurst," after police questioned him for information needed to create a composite drawing of Brenda. New Yorker Earl Zea, 34, told police last spring an intruder sawed off his "wienerwurst." Zea drove himself to the hospital. He finally admitted cutting off his "Polish dog" with pruning shears to discourage another man from seeking him for romance, an AP story said. A 67-year-old New York man missing the same body part turned up at a Bronx hospital in the fall of 1995 and claimed a prostitute snipped off his "tubular casement," because he refused to pay her. Domingo Morales' missing "bloodwurst" was found in a plastic food container in his kitchen. The retired truck driver said he made up the story about the prostitute in fear that he would be sent to a mental institution, AP reported. Lorena Bobbitt could open an unlicensed home surgical clinic and make a fortune, based on the substantial number of men who actually want to be "depenised," "bepenised" or "unpenised."
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 01:37 pm Asad I think you are breaking the copyright laws here. Be careful. If you want to be witty, think. Don't just copy from publications.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 01:42 pm Anon That is one big stupid question. She can't be "his wife" unless he is married to her!
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 02:06 pm "Asad I think you are breaking the copyright laws here." arrest me, then. ;-) "Be careful." i'm not afraid. ;-) "If you want to be witty, think." lol "Don't just copy from publications." i do not listen to order. ;-)
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 02:07 pm "Asad I think you are breaking the copyright laws here." arrest me, then. ;-) "Be careful." i'm not afraid. ;-) "If you want to be witty, think." lol "Don't just copy from publications." i do not listen to orders. ;-)
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 02:40 pm Nadiah. "unless they still live in the land of the barbarians aka Somalia " Tell me you are not barbarian anymore and you are reformed to a civilized human being looool!.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 03:07 pm Nadiah What a beauty!(no sarcasm) anybody who defends rape or oppressing women in any form is a barbarian. But Nadiah, remember not all Somalis do.
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 04:18 pm Asad you dim wit what anonboy meant was is it allowed, not if he can because of strength as for the other issue you're discussing there is no point to it. Therefore the answer is nooooooooo!!! raping one's wife is not allowed you freaks. case cloossssed!!!!!!!!!
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 05:09 pm "Asad you dim wit what" lol "anonboy meant was is it allowed" i can not read what was in his mine. i can only read what he wrote, not what he mean. ;-) "not if he can because of strength" he asked can a man, not is it allowed. ;-) "Therefore the answer is nooooooooo!!!" who siad yeeeeeeeeeeeees? ;-) "raping one's wife is not allowed you freaks." but can a man rape his wife if it is not allowed? ;-) "case cloossssed!!!!!!!!!" lol
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| | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 06:43 pm Galool. Do I sense restraint?. Your sentence looks conditioned and somewhat editted?. You stopped short of finishing you-blame-all gibberish. I am glad you have some positive feelings towars your race, Unlike many who are used to insulting somalis to prove their mirage progress.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 02:17 am FG Somalis deserve boatloads of critcism. After all we destroyed our country and the world has to come and feed "our starving butts" as Common once succinctly put it in his inimitable way. To see willowy, graceful somali mothers fighting over grains of canadian wheat was nothing short of national humiliation. However, I always had "positive feelings" towards my race. I love the feistiness of Somali women. I love the way they(Somalis) give plenty of lip service to Islam, but remain stubbornly secular. I love their cynicism. For those who don't know, Somalia is the spiritual home cynics everwhere. When the Americans came to Mogadishu, the rumours making the rounds included that the Americans have discovered oil, wish to use Somalia as dumping ground for its delinquents,(therefore shattering the peace and tranquility!) turn us into christians, build bases etc. They have to have some ulterior motive. Nobody considered the possibility that they came to feed our "starving butts" out of natural humanistic concern. But Most of all, I respect them because they will never let a bunch of arm-chopping-people-stoning-women-oppressing maniacs ever rule them.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 02:25 am Sweetgirl Ouch! You have fangs!
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 04:16 am "Sweetgirl Ouch! You have fangs!" do you mean she has fangs (pointed teeth in her mouth) that the cut or she just has blade in her posession? ;-) why would a "sweetgirl" say words like "freaks"--- "dim wit"? ;-) "I love the way they(Somalis) give plenty of lip service to Islam, but remain stubbornly secular." lol "For those who don't know, Somalia is the spiritual home cynics everwhere." including galool, right? ;-) "But Most of all, I respect them because they will never let a bunch of arm-chopping-people-stoning-women-oppressing maniacs ever rule them." but you would rather have the somalis as leaders bunch of sacrilegious (secularists) who are killers-rapists-warlords-pimps-drunkards, right? ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 04:39 am Asad She got you, buddy. Surely you did not think the guy meant whether men have the physical strength to rape women(which depends on how big the women is I suppose) Hey you exposed yourself out here(no I don't mean you strippped off) and the girl got you big time.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 05:18 am "Asad She got you, buddy." if her insults and bad mouthing got me, lots of other insults thrown at me on here would have gotten me already. as you already might have noticed, i do not respond to insults thrown at me; i get kick out of them. i laugh at the person who spews insults and those who dictate (order me) and tell me what i can write and can not write on here. ;-) "Surely you did not think the guy meant whether men have the physical strength to rape women" well, as i told her, i do not know what the guy meant. i could not read his mind and what he meant. i could only read with he wrote on here and the question he asked. ;-) "which depends on how big the women is I suppose" yes, that was what i said. i said "well, the fact is that a man can rape his wife if he is stronger than she is". ;-) "Hey you exposed yourself out here" you wish. ;-). do not be desaprate, galool. ;-) "no I don't mean you strippped off and the girl got you big time." by insulting me? ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 06:15 am Thanks Galool aboowe...and Asad if you don't know what the guy meant it would have been appropriate if you kept quiet so please aboowe keep your two cents to yourself, nothing you've said so far makes sense.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 06:30 am "Asad if you don't know what the guy meant it would have been appropriate if you kept quiet" " but i know and see what he wrote. i will never know what is in the mind of a person. i can only read what a person writes. ;-) "so please aboowe keep your two cents to yourself" that is censorship which you are begging on here. ;-) "nothing you've said so far makes sense." what about your insults---do you think they made sense to you? ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 08:27 am LOOOOOOOOOOOOL Asad "but i know and see what he wrote. i will never know what is in the mind of a person. i can only read what a person writes. ;-)" How any one could be more stupid than that?..to be honest I came this pages to read other BRother debates but, whenever I read your responds make feel sick! Galool "She got you, buddy. Surely you did not think the guy meant whether men have the physical strength to rape women(which depends on how big the women is I suppose) Hey you exposed yourself out here(no I don't mean you strippped off) and the girl got you big time." I am totally agree whit you..sweetgirl get that Asad MAd. but did he ever understand other ppl's mind? NO........I just wonder what make him to debate if he really have to answer to himself First, he don,t have any style of writing, all his converstions seems like some Birds talking to each other....lol Secondly, he always explaind thinks only way he think it suits him..so let me ask him this...Asad when you responding to the others,do you really respond to them,in a way that make the person understand your Responds...or you just write it to confuse them more......I just wonder way do you have to waste your time if you have to talk to yourself?..lol cuz your responds it is only you that they make sense no one else.......don,t waste the space or I will write to Somalinet to delete your unsalted (MADHAX) responses. Sweetgirl I feel you sis the only think you can do to ignore what ever this guy writes...cuz I thought it was only me who feels he is (Nacas?.atleas we know he can,t understand anything any one writes. if you want make some dicussins do it those inttelligent guys .E.g Common, formergues even Glool is better debated than Asad..when he is not talking about Islam....lol Peace
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 10:29 am "How any one could be more stupid than that?" lol--->stupid. ;-) "to be honest I came this pages to read other BRother debates but, whenever I read your responds make feel sick!" well, as i said many times on here, i'm not here to make you feel happy and healthy. i can not. i will never. ;-) "NO........I just wonder what make him to debate if he really have to answer to himself" lol---->answer to himself. ;-) "First, he don,t have any style of writing" i was told i have style. ;-) "all his converstions seems like some Birds talking to each other....lol" lol---->some birds that make you feel sick, right? ;-) "sweetgirl get that Asad MAd." lol---->that asad mad. ;-) "but did he ever understand other ppl's mind?" how can i understand what is in the mind of people? ;-) "Secondly, he always explaind thinks only way he think it suits him" how can i explain things that suits any other person if it does suit me? ;-) "so let me ask him this...Asad when you responding to the others,do you really respond to them" i do not respond; i point out things. ;-) "in a way that make the person understand your Responds" i can not make you understand anything if i make you feel sick, can i? ;-) "or you just write it to confuse them more" no, they make themselves confuse. ;-) "I just wonder way do you have to waste your time if you have to talk to yourself?" if i was talking to myself, i would not make people like you feel sick, wouldn't i? ;-) "lol cuz your responds it is only you that they make sense no one else" again, i'm not here to cater your needs. ;-) "don,t waste the space" is this an order? if it is---you know that i'll ignore it, right? ;-) "or I will write to Somalinet to delete your unsalted (MADHAX) responses." i do not think the somalinet will do censorship. ;-) "I feel you sis the only think you can do to ignore what ever this guy writes" that is really a good advice which is better than censorship. ;-) "cuz I thought it was only me who feels he is (Nacas?" lol---->nacas. ;-) "atleas we know he can,t understand anything any one writes." i understand what someone writes, but i do not undestand what is in the mind of a person. ;-) "even Glool is better debated than Asad" lol "when he is not talking about Islam" but am i better than him when he is talking about islam? ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 02:18 pm THREE AGAINST ONE!. That isn't NICE.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 08:21 pm To:asad, three wives are not enough!!! I recommend eight. 4 on ur right side n 4 on ur left side...maybe pple will get break from u (smile) peace...
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 08:33 pm YOU TOTALLY WENT ON A TANGENT KEEP TO THE TOPIC PLEASE.
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 08:49 pm "To:asad, three wives are not enough!!!" no, four xuuril-tiin in here is enough and sixty or more xuuril-cayn in the hereafter is fine with me. ;-) "I recommend eight." having eight xuurul-tiin is xaraam, isn't it? ;-) "4 on ur right side n 4 on ur left side" i got you now, do you mean i should marry four women and have other four women on the site as those that the right hand possess (the concubines)?, but that may work only when there is a war between the muslims and the non-muslims, right? ;-)
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 09:00 pm lol
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| | Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 09:20 pm hakima, what about you, can we find a husband for you? ;-)
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 05:51 am lollllllllllll@Hakima Sis looking Asad 4 wife? don,t be so cruel....imagine he is rebeating every word that wife have to said? like cut and Paste.lol peace
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 07:17 am lol @ anon That is the whole point. Normally, in Islam: men are allowed to be married 4 at the same time. But...i suggested 8...he won't have time to copy & paste...lol Lol @ asad.... a hushand for me...lol for the previous Anon...Mr/Ms/Mrs: the topic got the answer from the very first... n it was No. peace...
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 07:46 am "Sis looking Asad 4 wife? don,t be so cruel" i think she was generous, too generous; she is not cruel to me. ;-) "he is rebeating every word that wife have to said?. like cut and Paste.lol" only if she (or them) and i communicating through writing online. ;-) "i suggested 8...he won't have time to copy & paste...lol" yes, eight wives will make me busy, every busy.;-) "Lol @ asad.... a hushand for me...lol" why, hakima, don't you want to get busy? ;-) "the topic got the answer from the very first... n it was No." the answer is yes to the way the question was written, but can the husband who raped his wife justify in doing the act of rape, the answer is then no. ;-)
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 08:22 am Asad The girls are really after you aren't they? ( I dread the ways you will interpret this) Hey buddy, I remeber someone once telling me about the strange attraction systems of the female species: They actually like men who repel them! If a woman calls you "sweet" and "nice", you stand no chance. Try your luck elsewhere! But if you can make their blood boil(no not literally Asad!)hang in there! They will fall into your palms like ripe mangos! I think your strategy is working admirably so far. Stick to it pal!
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 08:43 am Galool, that is not true. But go ahead and try to discover women...and start from the very begining where ur grandpa Adam ended. If you come close..even a little bit to understanding us. MAN...then, i guess we'll give u a Big Prize :-) peace...
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 08:54 am Asad "i think she was generous, too generous; she is not cruel to me. ;-)" Lolllllllllllll! Don,t ride your Horses that high. When I say don,t be so Cruel.......I did not Mean Cruel to You......It was your Wife that I feel sorry 4........lol Hope u get it Now Hakima Sis I wouldn,t tel him to marry ONE women let alone 8... Reason is, how on earth he can communicate whit them? when he beleive.....My way or NO way!!!! Golool "I think your strategy is working admirably so far. Stick to it pal!" I don,t think so....Tray to understand My Points then you will know how I feel about this Guy.... peace
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 09:04 am "Asad The girls are really after you aren't they( I dread the ways you will interpret this)?" i don't know. if you think they are after me, they must be willing to be my co-wives with all other women they want me to have. ;-) "Hey buddy, I remeber someone once telling me about the strange attraction systems of the female species: They actually like men who repel them! If a woman calls you "sweet" and "nice", you stand no chance. Try your luck elsewhere! But if you can make their blood boil(no not literally Asad!)hang in there! They will fall into your palms like ripe mangos!" maybe the *challenge* to change the men who repel them is what these female species are after. i know that many women really succeed in changing and molding the men who repeled them by making him real mellowed once they got the men, especially when the men taste the stweetness of their women. ;-) "I think your strategy is working admirably so far. Stick to it pal!" it was not my intention to make me their next *challenge*---their next experiment. although i'm weak when it comes to women and the temptation of falling for them, i feel that i cannot be changed. what she sees is what she gets and will get. if a lady is nice to me, i will be nice to her even if she wants me to bad boy. i want her to respect me and not look at me as her next challenge. i will be honest to her in telling her what i feel (but not all the times especially if it will hurt her feeling).
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 09:15 am "Don,t ride your Horses that high." horses are made to be ridden or mounted on them high. ;-) "When I say don,t be so Cruel.......I did not Mean Cruel to You......It was your Wife that I feel sorry 4........lol Hope u get it Now" if my wife can not make me busy and help me stay away from posting onto here by giving me good loving, then she will be the cruel one, don't you think? ;-) "Sis I wouldn,t tel him to marry ONE women let alone 8... Reason is, how on earth he can communicate whit them? when he beleive.....My way or NO way!!!!" anonymous, the difference of communication beteen here and my wife (wives) is here online. when i will communicate with my wife (wives) in person, i'll be gentle and compromising in telling her (them) what i feel. but in here, i'm not here to please a wife (wives) or any ladies. ;-)
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 09:32 am Hakima I dislike criticising women(yeah I know it is patronising and sexist) but I have to say, the sweet subtlety of the joke was wasted on you! I knew Asad will totally miss it, but I thought someone will get it! Try again Hakima! I trust you will get there. Good luck.
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 09:42 am "the sweet subtlety of the joke was wasted on you! I knew Asad will totally miss it" maybe you knew that i was not going to respond to your post to me, as you would have liked, right? at least be glad that i fulfilled your wishes of missing (not meeting the terms) ;-)
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 09:57 am Galool, I think you go too much exploring the space!! But look at the bright side...if u r jealious i can look one for you too. I think finally i'll quit being an economics student,,, n establish a matchmaking business. To Anon: I think u are the one that posted to quit joking right!! Bro...it is always nice to smile. I m right now in the middle of writing a weird termpaper...n checking out what u guys post...to make me continue what i m doing...Get me? peace..
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 10:05 am hakima, your post to galool, you said to him: "start from the very beginning where ur grandpa Adam ended". do you mean how the satan seduced hawa, and then as a result of that adam and hawa ate the tree that made them out of where they lived? anyway, hakima, my point is that i do not think galool agrees with you when you said to him that adam is his biologically related ancestor father. the reason i say this is that earlier i asked galool in another place if he believes this or not---if he does not believe that human being is the progenitor and is the biologically related ancestor to adam, then does galool believe that he is related to the apes (monkeys) as some scientist and ethiests tell us? ;-)
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 10:22 am "Tray to understand My Points then you will know how I feel about this Guy" are you (by any chance) the anonymous who said i make her or him feel sick whenever she or him read what i write on here? ;-)
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 10:35 am "I think finally i'll quit being an economics student,,, n establish a matchmaking business." you do not have to quit. the way i see it, by majoring economics and doing money making (lucrative) matchmaking business, you would have killed two birds in one stone. you see, by the time you finished school, you are rich and know what is like to expand your business and the ways to find a perfect match for people and most important for yourself. ;-) it is a win win situation, don't you think?
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 10:48 am oh!, hakima, if this idea for you works, i need my consulting fee. i'll only charge you 10% of what you make from your business. if you think 10%is a lot, but imagine what i would do with that kind of money and where it will go to. the money will go to all the four (or was it the eight) wives you hooked me up with, right? ;-)
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 11:25 am lol
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 04:42 pm There you guys go getting off topic again, and another thing I've noticed is Asad has so much in his hands that I'm beginning to suspect that he lives in the Somalinet forumss......lol I crack myself(don't you even think of cutting and pasting my words)
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| | Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 05:11 pm "and another thing I've noticed is Asad has so much in his hands that I'm beginning to suspect that he lives in the Somalinet forumss" if asad has much in his hands and he lives in the somalinet forumss, what about the person who is reporting this story---does not she also have so much in her hands and lives in the somalinet forumss reading what asad writes? ;-) "lol I crack myself(don't you even think of cutting and pasting my words)" lol
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 02:41 am LoL asad!. I wonder at the difference too. Thay have to read your posts to complain about it.
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 03:18 am ? ....people.. come on now. Have you no shame, Galool appears to be right in his assertions that we are secular while remaining under the shade of Islam, think of what we shall be asked on judgement day and the stuff we have posted on this page. Ya Allah may i be forgiven for my mistakes and you rewarded for your good actions and made aware of things. Sometimes it is better to keep quiet, we all are guilty of doing more saving and less deleting..now we are guilty of doing more posting and less thinking waslaam brothers and sisters
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 04:08 am lol @ common. Bro...4 yrs ago when i was ur age, i tend to see the world as either black or white. But gradually i tend to see the beauty of being in the middle. After all, the prophet (pbhu) said" kheer al-umour al-wasaat". So, if you were referring to my posts...in any sense... that was all a figure of speech...no harm was intended from my part. After all as the hadith says" inama al-alacmaal beel al-niyaat waa lee koul imri maa naawa" peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 04:27 am "? ....people.. come on now. " there is nothing to be ashamed of here. if we write and read on here does that mean shame has to go along with it? "Galool appears to be right in his assertions that we are secular while remaining under the shade of Islam" unlike galool, as long as we remian under the sade of islam and profess as muslims and perform the prayers, do not deny the signs of Allah and did no shameful acts or blasphemous acts, i do not think we became secularists (sacrilegious) people. ;-) "think of what we shall be asked on judgement day and the stuff we have posted on this page." like what? "Ya Allah may i be forgiven for my mistakes and you rewarded for your good actions and made aware of things." amiin. "Sometimes it is better to keep quiet" true, but where is the shame or the iriligious and the blasphemous acts things you are saying all of us did here? ;-) "we all are guilty of doing more saving and less deleting" saving and deleting what? ;-) "now we are guilty of doing more posting and less thinking" well, again tell us the shameful, the sacrilegious and blasphemous acts you say ALL of us posted on here that we are guilty of? ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 04:54 am Hakima Dear Sweet sister, i didn't mean to offend you or, to single you out for attention. Sister i am often accused of seeing things in black and white, would you prefer me to not be upset by what happens in this world, and how we watch and let it happen. Would i be better balanced an indiviudal to not be moved when i see a child strarving becasue it has become a african tradition. Does mordernity mean i must circumsice my feelings and not cry when people die due to injustice. You and and galool both advise sancuary from my black and white perspectives, to stiffle mny cries with sober bite size explainations. What do you offer me instead..what lies in this grey area. Will i die in that grey area, not having sought to enjoin the good and forbid the bad, are my prayers and zakat enough to relive a neglected concclooius of a ummah, who overthrows its duties and seeks misrey as its aide and heirI am not a fan of anarchy, or "fundementalist" views what ever that may be, i don't knwo any bearderd people,and i doe seek the middle path like the Prophet advised (pbuh).But all i know is that, we view a lot of things that arn't normal as normal. Why should the majority of the world suffer inequality, do you think the europeans would allow their citizens to starve, why do we allow somali children to die of hunger, every year?, every year, do you not see this as a sin?.. how can it not be a sin?.What middle path invloves somalis blowing each other up with weapons over how far apart their ancestors names fall in a line . How can i offer prayesr when i know, that children are dying in Jihad, while i will get up and continue with my studies, do you not see a contradiction..somewhere.. anyone?.. Am i crazy as Galool suggests?..as Mad Mac dismisses... Asad, For example someone posts a message saying CAN A MAN RAPE HIS WIFE..and then you in particular go on to discuss the phycical strengths of man compared to women and the effectiveness of Laura Bobbits handiwork. Now at the same time Somali people are dying in Ogaden, are you in doubt for a second that we will be asked what we were doing cutting and pasting laura bobbit articles, while mulsim children were starving? Are you not responsible for your time and how you use it? Are they not worthy things a s a ummah we could be doing clearly you pick up a lot of information in the society you live in, perhaps you need to do more deleting and less saving. I have the feeling like sweetgirl..that these words are gonna come back and huant me in cut and paste like fashion
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 05:17 am "For example someone posts a message saying CAN A MAN RAPE HIS WIFE..and then you in particular go on to discuss the phycical strengths of man compared to women and the effectiveness of Laura Bobbits handiwork." so is this the secularist (sacrilegious) act that you say i should be ashamed of? ;-) "Now at the same time Somali people are dying in Ogaden, are you in doubt for a second that we will be asked what we were doing cutting and pasting laura bobbit articles, while mulsim children were starving? Are you not responsible for your time and how you use it? Are they not worthy things a s a ummah we could be doing clearly you pick up a lot of information in the society you live in," no doubt, in the day of judegment, we will be asked whatever we did in this world---sins or virtues, but to say that this makes us ALL secularists is a generalization, right? ;-) you do not know whatever the people who here have done to support to their people back home or not, do you? ;-). by the way, when a muslim commits sins, does not mean he is a secularist (sacrilegious), common? ;-) "perhaps you need to do more deleting and less saving." perhaps you need to be clear of what secularist (sacrilegious) is and what is not. ;-) "I have the feeling like sweetgirl" the sweetgirl who spewed insults like "freaks and "dim wit what" towards me, right? "that these words are gonna come back and huant me in cut and paste like fashion" as long as i didn't insult her back, the cutting and pasting her own words towards me, will not haunt me. ask her if it will huant her. ;-). but before it reaches to that, i will not hold against her. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 05:43 am Dear Common, Allah says 'Laa Youkalif nafsan el-wiscuha' ie Allah is not commending us to do things that He knows that we can't perform them. I know who painful it is to see what the world had come to and how misery,hunger and injustice are increasing every single second. I can't ask you to not get upset but I am requesting you to do whatever you can do to help any person in need. And, there is a hadith that says' maan salaak dariiqan yatloub feehee cilm, saahal Allah lahu dareeqan ela al-janah' it implies that seeking knowledge is like jihad where Allah promises you a path to paradise. Therefore, asking for knowledge and education is highly demanded. After all, if we want a change, we do need to get equiped with its proper weapon. May Allah guide us all. peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 05:56 am "LoL asad!. I wonder at the difference too. Thay have to read your posts to complain about it." formerguest, i wonder if the *complaining* itslef by people--------about my cutting and pasting what others write and what i write--------is a sacrilegious tooo-----the complaining, that is? ;-) by the way, you do not have to answer. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 06:25 am Thank you hakima for your comments, i really liked reading them sister Asad, brother i am sorry if i offended you..please forgive me Your brother in Islam
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 06:37 am Former guest, yep I am a reformed, rehabilatated barbarian  Galool, bro I didn't meant to generalize, though I beleive in calling a spade a spade.
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 06:45 am "Asad, brother i am sorry if i offended you..please forgive me. Your brother in Islam" you have not done any offending acts towards me that need to be forgiven, so apology was not neccessary. ;-) it is just that i do not think any posting, cutting and pasting on here is sacrilegious as you thought------in the same way i do not think your complaining about them was sacrilegious------that is-----as long as we remian under the sade of islam and profess as muslims and perform the prayers, do not deny the signs of Allah and do not do blasphemous acts------we have nothing to be shame of here. as far as our muslim brothers and sisters back home needing our help is concern, we should do what we can do to support them. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 07:12 am Common :-) lol @ asad, "by the way, you don't have to answer that" Asad, now who is giving who the Order? lol peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 09:29 am -----by the way, you don't have to answer that--- "Asad, now who is giving who the Order? lol" what you thought was an order is not an order. if i had said to formerguest he cannot answer or he has to answer, then it would have been an order, however, if i said to him that he does not have to answer that, he is given a choice; i did not give him an order; I gave him choice, got it, hakima? ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 09:38 am example, hakima: you are talking to a friend of yours on the phone and she needs to be picked up from work and you offered her to come and get her using your car, but she said to you "you do not have to do that"----is that an order or choice? ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 10:33 am yes yes...you gave him the option and you choosed for him what option to choose and that was not to answer,therefore, you were implying an indirect order...got it! peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 11:00 am yes, hakima, i got it. i gave him one option-----which i choose for him to do, right? therefore, formergues, if you are reading this, i order you again to have the choice to answer. i'm saying to you that you are free to answer, but you do not have to listen to my option to you (no, my order to you), okay? ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 11:56 am "i ORDER you again to have the choice to answer" Man!! you are still giving orders! see what you wrote. Anyways, read my lips, i m telling you to quit this...cuz men simply can't compete with women's mental strenght...as we (women) can't compete with men's physical strenght... do u agree to agree. :-) peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 12:12 pm "Man!! you are still giving orders! see what you wrote." i thought you would have gotten the joke by now, but you did not. ;-( hakima, read the joke again and maybe then you might get it--- "therefore, formerguest, if you are reading this, i order you again to have the choice to answer. i'm saying to you that you are free to answer, but you do not have to listen to my option to you (no, my order to you), okay? ;-)" example, if i'm a slave owner and i told my slave that he or she does not have stay in slavery and he or she is free to go, am i ordering him or her or giving them a choice to be free, hakima? ;-) "Anyways, read my lips, i m telling you to quit this" now, this is what you call an order-----you didn't even give me a choice to not quit. ;-) "cuz men simply can't compete with women's mental strenght...as we (women) can't compete with men's physical strenght... do u agree to agree. :-)" well, i know many many women who can compete with men and actually beat them in both physically and mentally and i know many many women who can not compete with men in both areas, so you are making generalization, hakima? ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 12:26 pm Nadiah Give 'em hell girl! (on second thoughts don't mention hell here. People take it too literally)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 12:47 pm By the way, if you are a muslim slave owner, can you have a sexual intercourse with ur slave (woman) without being married to her? peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 01:30 pm if there is a war between the muslims and the non-muslims and the enemies (the non-muslims) are out there to kill me and humilate me (and slave me) because of my religion, i'll kill them too and will slave others. can i have sexual intercourse with the non-muslim, the enemy's woman--- who tried to kill me and humilate me (slave me)------yes, i can. ;-). she is going to be one of those aw-maa-malakat-ayaana-him, those that the right hand possess (the concubines). i'm sure the enemy have done and will do the same thing to muslim woman (like you) as they have done before after they killed and slaved muslim men (like me). ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 01:45 pm There is no war, and you are a muslim slave owner and the slave (woman) is a muslim too. Can you still have sexual intercourse with her under no marriage contract? peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 02:06 pm "There is no war, and you are a muslim slave owner" the only way i can have slave is when i'm in war, hakima-----when the enemy is trying to kill me and force me to give up islam and when the enemy is trying to humilate me (trying to be his slave) in war (in jihad). ;-) "and the slave (woman) is a muslim too." muslims can not slave muslims, hakima. ;-) muslims should not even be in war against each other, let along kill and slave themselves. ;-) "Can you still have sexual intercourse with her under no marriage contract?" only if there is a war and the muslims and the non-muslims are in fighting and muslims capture the enemy who was trying to kill the muslims and humliate (slave them); then i told you is when it is allowed to have those aw-maa-malakat-aymaana-him---those that the right hand possess (the non-muslim concubines), got it, hakima? by the way, are you afriad that if there is a war and muslims win and capture the enemies women, your future husband may sleep with these women? ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 02:33 pm lol No, i just wanted to know whether you know that or not. The reason is in the summer i was attending a tafsiir lesson, the shiekh was talking about that point. He said that it is ok. (ie even if there was no war, u still can own slaves and can still have sexual intercourse with them.) I argued with him and said that was impossible and never went back to attend his lessons. Weeks later, i was reading a book about Omar Ibn Abdel-aziz (most people consider him as the fifth rightly guided caliphate because of his great justice) and his wife had this slave whom he liked so much that he wanted to sleep with her. He asked his wife for her(!) but his wife refused to give him her slave. So, after all the poor shiekh was telling the truth. But still my mind can't take that. Do u? peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 03:03 pm "I argued with him and said that was impossible and never went back to attend his lessons." was it in the masjid when you were argueing with him and were you talking to him face to face in the masjid? ;-) "even if there was no war, u still can own slaves and can still have sexual intercourse with them." well, when there is war going on, how can the men enjoy the women? the war must be over first----then, that is when they will relax, right? ;-) "But still my mind can't take that. Do u? " that is why i asked you the question of "by the way, are you afriad that if there is a war and muslims win and capture the enemies women, your future husband may sleep with these women? ;-)". for me, i do not know what i will do; it depends on my wife. if it is okay with her that i have another woman, then i'll go for it. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 03:15 pm No, that was not in a masjid. I was not asking about what you gonna do. I was asking about the concept!!! My future husband!!! Well, if he first dare n just think of the idea, boy then he must be very courageous... i'll respect that for him having that great character...then Kill him lol peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 03:28 pm "No, that was not in a masjid." if it was not in the majid, where did you have arguement with the sheikh and was he teaching you the tafsiir face to face? ;-) "No, that was not in a masjid. I was not asking about what you gonna do. I was asking about the concept!!!" well, unlike you, if it is allowed, my mind can take that. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 03:44 pm "No, i just wanted to know whether you know that or not. The reason is in the summer i was attending a tafsiir lesson, the shiekh was talking about that point." hakima, were you testing me? ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 04:07 pm ofcourse, i was testing you. What do u think? I told you men can't compete with women's mental strenght...lol I think by now your blood is boiled..rite. Anyways, take it easy bro. It is fun having a discussion with someone...without I being cursed at the end. mahadsanid :-) (still friends...) peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 04:31 pm "ofcourse, i was testing you. What do u think?" i thought you were testing me. ;-) "I told you men can't compete with women's mental strenght...lol" and i told you that you are making generalization. ;-) "I think by now your blood is boiled..rite." never. ;-) "Anyways, take it easy bro. It is fun having a discussion with someone...without I being cursed at the end." i seem to have fun with the curses people throw at me. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 04:43 pm asad, you have fun with the curses pple throw it at you! Man, i hope u don't copy and paste them in ur dreams...lol By the way, are you a biologist? what do u do in real life? if that is too personal...plz accept my apology in advance :-) Nabad gelio...caanu iyo caanu!!! peace...
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 04:55 pm "you have fun with the curses pple throw it at you!" well, when people throw curses (which is nothing), it shows that you really made a point on them. when they resort, you know that they lost the debate. ;-) "Man, i hope u don't copy and paste them in ur dreams...lol" only if my mine were like computers. ;-) "By the way, are you a biologist?" yes, i have a b.s in biology. how did you know!? "what do u do in real life?" i'm a computer programmer by profession. no more personal questions, please. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 05:46 pm lol No more.
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| | Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 04:18 pm Is it just me or do you guys think Galool is mad mac aka little Johnny. I haven't paid any attention to his posts but now that I've looked carefully into them I am getting suspicious.
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 03:57 am To Hakima, Sister I am not knowleagble in Islam as you are. But I am a bit surprised your explit words. You question I cannot take it can you? I as a newly prectising Muslim would not ask. Secondly, your words '' poor sheikh was telling the trhuth'' hurts me. And if I perhaps share my little knowledge on this issue. I will tell you you are not right. I do not have to explain now. But if you know anything about Islamic Law. You will see why and when that the Ulam made forbidden. And my question here is as Bro Common mentioned why on earth are we here to discuss something that does not take place in a Islamic society. Who is Nadia by the way.
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 04:48 am sister arawello, i was looking for an explanation. Which asad told me to take as it is. I mean...isn't that a zina? by the way, what do u mean u r a new practising muslim??? "poor shiekh"----> i meant i felt sorry for not trusting his words. I know it sounded differently. Please do tell me what u know? I do not know that much about islamic sharia (though that is my next step) but all i know is some of the laws that are mentioned in the Quran and some illustrations of the hadith. And, why would i mention such a thing. Asad just mentioned the word "slave" and since that was something that was going in my mind for a while, i asked him. just look above. peace...
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 07:27 am "i was looking for an explanation. Which asad told me to take as it is. I mean...isn't that a zina?" and i gave an explanation which was in the Qura'n. the Qur'an didn't say it is zina. in fact, i told you it is allowed to have them---- aw-maa-malakat-aymaana-him---those that the right hand possess. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 08:22 am Salaams You guys see to have alot of time. I work 35 hours and away home more than 45 hr. I will spare my time now Inasha Allah to say a few things. Let me tell you when I first saw this site I got happy, and thought I will benefit from it. But my dissapoinmant was when I could got nothing but confusion. I always prayed and fast but recently started learning aboout Islam. I got a lot of pleasure from that. I cannot tell you. My point here, I thought before we go to discuss a high point of Islamic aspect, we should now the basics. And we seem those of us here seem to neglect that. Should not we firts have in mind that whenever we want talk about Islam. We are talking a religion therefore not from our minds. And if you compare this to humansim you will go into astry. As see the examples of these. To Galool, You seem to obssesed with Humanism. I do not have a problem with that if it is serves good for all human kind. But does it? No, It does not. Humanism is good a prefered idiology when poeple talking about certan things but not others. To give you an example, the majority of the westreners would oneway or another clain to be humanist. But, when they gave thier vote whehter the army imbargo should left from Bosnia. They voted no. And we were all wittnessed the result of that. Again, do you ever see, any demonstrations against the sanctionors agains Iraq. No, but we know a dn heard The genecide in iraqi children. So, is humanism just for some? You are riight your point the most of the Somails put first their clan loyalty. But this is a good example of the difference of good Muslim and a bad muslim. My point here, while Islam is a great reliong and fortunate to adhere we do not take a full advantage of it. Islam as a religion is a very simple massage. A beleave of one God and the last Prophet(PBOH) and that beleaves all the prophets before him. As a system it is just as have been witnessed during the Khilafa. All in all, Islam offers respest and kindness. If we find a trurl Islamic world, there will be nothing to worry muslims and non-muslims. But till then, I am afraid we have to suffer in many ways. I am just simple Somali lady. I know I do not explain things the way it should be. Insha Allah, I will pray that I did not say anything I will regret now and hereafter.
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 09:06 am Arawelo My dear sis Jzakumulaah khayran u said it in the best way any one could have. Sis I am just like you....I just start practicing Islam recentley....and the only reason I came to this Page...I may meet some ppl who have knowlage of Islam.....But while some ppl here now the basics of Islam and shows the love they have Islam and Muslims....there is others who may be Non-believers or even Believers .....but choose to make fun of Islam....when I read their nonsense responds I can,t help but, point out their mistakes... which some times create unpleasend atmostphere....But my sis from know on...I will stay a way to respond no one..........and spend my time to Learn My beautiful religion..Insha,allh......pray for me sis... peace
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 10:53 am "Let me tell you when I first saw this site I got happy, and thought I will benefit from it. But my dissapoinmant was when I could got nothing but confusion. I always prayed and fast but recently started learning aboout Islam." you are kidding to yourself if you think by coming here you will learn islam. ;-) "My point here, I thought before we go to discuss a high point of Islamic aspect, we should now the basics. And we seem those of us here seem to neglect that. Should not we firts have in mind that whenever we want talk about Islam. We are talking a religion therefore not from our minds. " i do not know about you or other people, i do know know about islam but i know about the basics and i'm not here to learn more than what i know. ;-) "And if you compare this to humansim you will go into astry. As see the examples of these. So, is humanism just for some?" lol-----humanism. ;-). why do not we do comparison?---islam vs humanism, that is if they are different. ;-) "there is others who may be Non-believers or even Believers .....but choose to make fun of Islam....when I read their nonsense responds I can,t help but, point out their mistakes" is it good to point out their mistakes. ;-) "which some times create unpleasend atmostphere" you can say that again. ;-) "But my sis from know on...I will stay a way to respond no one..........and spend my time to Learn My beautiful religion..Insha,allh" insha-Allah. ;-)
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 10:57 am Arawelo. A salaam alelikum sister.. i liked your message it was elequant. You knw they say that when we see some thing nice a nice act..or some nice words we recognise it as beautiful. Allah (*swt) loves the beauty makers.. lets endevour to create that beauty in this site and this world.<smile> amin. thanks sistuh
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 12:04 pm Asa Abooye waan akhtriyay, jawaabo badan ood ugu jawaabaysay dad badan, waxaan ka fahmay hadalkaaga, xanaax iyo naxariss la,an, waxaanad dhahday marar bdan Halkan inan diin ka Barto uma joogo, Waxaanad ku dadashaa inaad Dadka Kale niyada ka jabiso ood dhahdo halkan waxaa bes loo Yimaada, Bilaamicno. Hadabo abooye mis baan kuu sheegayaa Adiga hadaad qof wayn oo u maleeyay inaad cilmi Islamm oo kugu filan haysatid, waxaa jira dad badan oo xiiso u haya inay kula kulamaan halkan, walaalahooda kale ee muslimiinta ah.....Markaa ka jooji niyada aad dadka ka xumaynaysid....oo abooye qof waynd baa tahee iska ilaali inaad qof walba isku daydo inaad u jawaabto...waayo dad add kaaka yaryar oo u baahan dhiiri galinta Islamka ayaa halkan soo Booqda....Hana dhihin Islamm lagama bran Karo. waayo waxaan hubaa Hadii aad isku daydo wakhtiga dhan add ku lumisay...Muranka Inaad Islaamka saxa ah hadii add nagu dhaantid inaad Ka sheekayso...odd nagu dhiiri geliso waxaad na dhaanto......Sida Formererguess.....willkaas aad buu Diinta u jecelyahay waxaanu isku dayaa inuu Qofkasta raali geliyo.....waana sida Islaamnimadu jeceshahay..........Mida kale ma ogtahay in Technologiga.aad aad uga faaidaysan karto.......hadaad booqoto Islamic pages waxaad ka faaiidaysaa Cilmi aad u badan..waxaa xataa laga soo daaya Dacwada Jimca kasta in Maka & Madina....Markaa abooye Isla yaab Niyad jabka dadka ka dhaaf Adigana Xabeebta....bilaa micnaha ah is dhaaf.
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 12:43 pm "Asa Abooye waan akhtriyay, jawaabo badan ood ugu jawaabaysay dad badan, waxaan ka fahmay hadalkaaga, xanaax iyo naxariss la,an," waxaan u malaynaayaa in aad iska indha tirtey sawirkaan--------> ;-). sawirkaan micnahiisa ma aha xanaaq. ;-) "waxaanad dhahday marar bdan Halkan inan diin ka Barto uma joogo" wa sax. ;-) "Waxaanad ku dadashaa inaad Dadka Kale niyada ka jabiso ood dhahdo halkan waxaa bes loo Yimaada, Bilaamicno." ma dhihin bilaa macno, ee waxaan iri diin halkan laga baranaayo ma fiicna. markii aa dhaho halkaan diin laga baranaay ma fiicna micnaheeda ma aha in aan niyada ka jabiyo dadka raba in ay diin halkaan ka bartaan ee run baan sheegaayaa. ;-) "Hadabo abooye mis baan kuu sheegayaa Adiga hadaad qof wayn oo u maleeyay inaad cilmi Islamm oo kugu filan haysatid" dadka waxa ay u maleeyaan in aan ahay waxba igama gelin. waxaan iri aniga cilmiga islaamka ah ma aqaan mana bari karo dadka halkaan yimaado. ;-) "waxaa jira dad badan oo xiiso u haya inay kula kulamaan halkan, walaalahooda kale ee muslimiinta ah" in la kumo oo laga hadlo wax walba ma dhihin ma fiicna. ;-) "Markaa ka jooji niyada aad dadka ka xumaynaysid" aniga dadka niyadooda ma xumany karo mana fiicnayn karo. ;-) "oo abooye qof waynd baa tahee iska ilaali inaad qof walba isku daydo inaad u jawaabto" aniga cidna ma caayo. ;-) "waayo dad add kaaka yaryar oo u baahan dhiiri galinta Islamka ayaa halkan soo Booqda" dadka iga yaryar ama iga waa wayn waxay arkeen in aa sheegay in halkaan diin laga barta laga fiican yahay. ;-) "Hana dhihin Islamm lagama bran Karo. waayo waxaan hubaa Hadii aad isku daydo wakhtiga dhan add ku lumisay...Muranka Inaad Islaamka saxa ah hadii add nagu dhaantid inaad Ka sheekayso odd nagu dhiiri geliso waxaad na dhaanto." markii islaamka wax laga sheego, waxaan soo bandhigaa in waxa laga sheegay ay sax ahayn. ;-) "Mida kale ma ogtahay in Technologiga.aad aad uga faaidaysan karto.......hadaad booqoto Islamic pages waxaad ka faaiidaysaa Cilmi aad u badan" weelahaas waxaa ka fiican meelo badan oo diinta laga baran karo. waxaalaha islamic pageska lagu soo qoro badankood ma aha wax islamic ah. ;-) "waxaa xataa laga soo daaya Dacwada Jimca kasta in Maka & Madina" ma arkin dacwado laga soo daayo halkaan. ;-) "Markaa abooye Isla yaab" lol----->isla yaab. ;-) "Niyad jabka dadka ka dhaaf Adigana Xabeebta....bilaa micnaha ah is dhaaf." lol----->xabeebta. ;-)
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