     AADAN | Friday, December 22, 2000 - 11:05 am
HOW IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD?
To keep asking this question to yourself is very important if you are a human being, one of the best creatures of The Creator.
So, before you say easily yes, it is good, fair or bad, let one of us count orally or write down the descriptions of God. Although we can't finish them forever and ever, there is one thing that no one can skip or ignore to mention which is that He is our Creator who create everyone of us from a single(pair) egg of a male and female in the womb of a female.
Now and again, take a time and start to count all of what your God bless you. I am sure if you miss many many things of those, you never miss your physical shape of body which consists of flesh, bones and blood with soul. For exampe, you caught a disease which destroyed one of your organs, and foturnately a doctor succeeded to transplant it and cause it fucntion orderly by the Wish of God. Could you estimate how much you appreciate the doctor's action or helpfulness.
Therefore, what about The One who gave you that organ and others that are countless.
Anyway, you know your relationship with God more than anyone else but compare it to the others with your friend(boy or girl), wife or husband, parents, bos, minister, leader, doctor, co-worker, partner, children etc.
NOw, what is your answer to "HOW IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD?".
If there is anything of Faith in your heart, I am sure that you are busy for wiping out tears from your checks during answering of the question.
GOD(ALLAH) IS GREAT!!!!! |
| Galool | Monday, December 25, 2000 - 06:45 am
Aadan
Not very good at the moment. One of the best of his creations? Not too sure about that either. Man is the only animal that kills other creatures for pleasure, we are sucking the world dry of natural resources, we are capable of inflicting unimaginable cruelty on each other and on other living things, and we are polluting the sea and the land to death!
We are so vile that some theorists believe Mother Nature is fighting back by inventing new uncurable viruses like AIDS and EBOLA in order to get rid of us!
So you see I am not impressed by all that "Ahsani Taqweem" and "Made in his Image" palaver! |
| ANON | Monday, December 25, 2000 - 08:05 am
Golool-------first of all, "Made in his Image" is not an islamic belief. you said you don't believe that there are some human being who are and can be good---Ahsani Taqweem-------you believe that all human being are bad and become--- asfala saafiliin. but you only pointed out the bad things this human being does, but you forget to mention the good things this human being does.
btw, galool, i agree with you when you said that your relationship with God is not good. i mean, how can someone who is a disbeleiver have good relationship with the One who created him (i mean, can an atheist want to have relationship with Allah while rejecting)? |
| Galool | Monday, December 25, 2000 - 12:11 pm
Anon
No, it is a christian cliche.
Good things we do? Umm....ummm.. Sorry, Can't think of any! |
| ANON | Monday, December 25, 2000 - 05:42 pm
galool--------have you ever done any good things?
btw, wherever that come from, i knew the cliche did not come from islam. the atheists (those theorists who believe the mother nature cliche) say that the human being were made (came from) the image of a chimpanzee (a monkey), right? |
| Aadan | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 01:03 pm
Galool
You say that your relationship with God is not very good at the moment, so how that happens? And what are the causes? Do you have any dreams which is to put the pieces of your relationship with God back together and keep increasing until it hits the highest point?
Also you say that you don't believe that human being is one of the best creatures of The Creator, and you based your judge on their bad or cruel behaviors among them, you could be right on one side logically but, in fact, wrong on the other side.
First of all, Our God has told us everything in the Last or Final Word(Qu'ran). So there are three levels. In the first level, there are Angels whom were given minds but no desires(sexuality), and because of that they never do any mistakes. In 2nd level, there are human beings and Jinn whom are given minds and desires, so their actions depends on which they follow, which means can be good or bad. The 3rd level, other animals which are not given minds but desires, therefore they are not needed to treat the proper way since they don't have minds to think. However, animals have their own distincts.
Furthermore, when human beings use their minds in the proper way and be behind the Word of their God like the Prophets, their level(2nd) is moved to the higher one than the Angels' one(1st).
But, when they follow just on their desires, their level is moved into the lower one than the animals' one(3rd). And this is the level in which most of the earthly people categorized nowadays.
Also it is where you get your judge of denying human beings to be one the best creatures.
Finally, we have to think and know that each one of us will stand with his or her actions in front of Allah (swt), thus we have to concentrate on just ours before anyone's. |
| Diirshe | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 04:02 pm
As a black, african, poor, muslim person.... the relationship between me and God is the worst relation that I remember.. I do not know why he loves white caucasian .. he gave to them everything.. power, money, education, civilization etc,... Then when it comes to Arabs he gave to them some degree of cilization, endless Oil,...
For Asians.. hiTech, money, civiliz....,
How about us (Black Africans)... guess what he offered to us... schiavism, poorness, victims of rasizm, ignorance, endles civil war, diseases... that is not good.
Sometimes, I think that may be this God doesn't exist..... we (human being) invented him, cuz we need a powerful figure in order to calm down our soul...
Concerned African |
| Anonymous | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 04:25 pm
Diirshe,
Bro go go go go,,go you get a right point,
I have always asked to myself that question and I have never found out answer. If god has apower why African people should be treated that way?
It is not fair, Not at all. |
| ANON | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 05:28 pm
first, Allah does what He wants in accordance with His universal plan, and without any let or hinderance from any one. in the divine plan of creation, belief and unbelief are bound, like light and darkness, to go hand in hand. and Allah's power of action is not restricted or limited by any conditions and people-----black, white, brown, yellow and rich and poor. Allah tests both muslims and kufars in any color and nationality and having relationship with Allah does not require that you have to be rich white asian arab person. i'm black, african, poor, muslim person too and my relionship with Allah is good and i'm doing better than millions of asians and millions of whites. ;-) there are many arabs, whites and asian people who poor-- who have no relationship with their Creator----they reject Him. just because they are white and asiain and rich does not mean Allah loves them. ;-)
"Sometimes, I think that may be this God doesn't exist...we (human being) invented him, cuz we need a powerful figure in order to calm down our soul""
i thought you said you are a muslim! seems to me you are saying you are an agnostic, right?
"O men! your rebellion is only against yourselves--a brief enjoyment of the life of the world; thereafter unto Us is your return; then We will declare to you what you have been working (and requite accordingly). The likeness of the life of the world is only as the rain which We send down from the sky, with which mingles the growth of the earth, of which men and cattle eat, until, when the earth puts on her ornament and is adorned and its inhabitants imagine that they are potent over it, there comes to it Our decree by night or by day, then We make it stubble as though it had no flourished yesterday (the point of similitude is, that the world is like this vegetable in evanescence) This is how We detail the signs to a people who ponder. And Allah calls to the abode of peace (and eternal bliss----the call of Allah is always to this higher life) and guides whomsoever He will to the straight path. To those who have done good is the good reward and an increase; neither darkness (of grief) nor abjection will cover their faces. These are the inhabitants of the Garden; therein they shall abide. And those who have earned misdeeds (acts of unbelief and infidelity)--the requital of a misdeed is the like thereof and objection will cover them; no defender they shall have from Allah (from His just judgment), as though their faces were over-cast with pieces of night pitch-dark. These are the inhabitants of the fire; therein they shall abide."........"yunis 23..
"A brief unjoyment in the world; then to Us is their return. Then We will make them taste a severe torment in that they have been disbelieving"..yunis 70
"And the simulate of a foul word (the formula of unfaith and infidelity) is a foul tree (evil in regard to forms odor, etc), uprooted from upon the earth, there is for it no stability"--ibrhaim 26.
"Lost surely are those who belie their meeting with Allah until when the Hour (death) comes on them on a sudden, and they will exclaim, Woe betide us, that we neglected it while they will be bearing their burdens (blasphemies unfaith and infidelity) on their backs. Lo! vile is what they will bear. And naught is the life of this world (which alone the infidels consider as real) but a play and a sports: and a surely the abode of the Hereafter (which the infidels deny) is better (as being higher and more lasting) for those who fear (their Lord). Do you not then reflect. We know well that surely what they say (by way of unbelief and blasphemy) grieves thee, but it is not thee they belie; it is the sings of Allah the ungodly gainsay (so do not grieve overmuch---it is Allah who shall deal with them). And messengers have assuredly been belied before thee (as this opposition by people is nothing novel), but they patiently bore of which they were belied, and they were persecuted, till Our succour reached them. And none can alter the decisions of Allah (His decrees and promises); and surely there has reached thee some tidings of the sent ones........."suratul anam: 31---41 |
| AADAN | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 07:11 am
Diirshe
If you are a black, african, poor muslim person who has the worst relationship with his God, as you say, from who are you waiting for help?
From those who told you that you are a poor, black person? Or from The One Who gave them all what makes you jealous and keeps you in dilusion?
Allah loves the real believers who always thank Him from whatever, either good or bad, comes to their lives or properties. Because they know that is just a kind of test from their God in order to purify their souls with it.
Finally, I say, MAY ALLAH PUT HIS LIGHT ON IN THE HEART OF THE SERVANT-DIIRSHE!
AND MAY ALLAH GIVE REWARDS ANON FOR HIS/HER GOOD LESSON, WHICH IS PRESENTED TO DIIRSHE AND US! |
| FG. | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 09:32 am
DIIRSHE.(Sorry, it has to be lon piece).
I think you need some strength to accept your luck in this world and not be affected by the treatment you receive from those who judge you based on race or religion. Faith or belief in god has nothing to do with what someone earns or has as wealth and resources nor is it attached to the looks of the person. Africans squandered themselves and to this day starve each other to death. A prime example is your country. I would have accepted your distress call if you pointed out their ignorance and lack of education. Since you said you are muslim with doubts I tell you about people in the Quran who had the same views and keennes to materialism rather than faith. Those people in the Quran envied a rich man called "Qarun" and thought he was very fortunate man since he had great wealth. Read some of those verses:
Allah tells us of the wealth of the man:
"28:76. Qárün was doubtless, of the people of Moses; but he acted insolently towards them: such were the treasures We had bestowed on him that their very keys would have been a burden to a body of strong men, behold, his people said to him: "Exult not, for Allah loves not those who exult (in riches)."
The verses continue untill we read:
"28:79. So he(Qarun) went forth among his people in the (pride of his worldly) glitter. Said those whose aim is the life of this world: "Oh! that we had the like of what Qárün has got! for he is truly a lord of mighty good fortune!"
Note: When they saw him and the wealth he was bestowed upon and what they said: ""Oh! that we had the like of what Qárün has got! for he is truly a lord of mighty good fortune!"
The verses continue..
"28:80. But those who had been granted knowledge said: "Alas for you! The reward of Allah (in the Hereafter) is best for those who believe and work righteousness: but this none shall attain, save those who steadfastly persevere (in good)."
Note: How those who had true knowledge of belief and that the wordly glitter doesn't mean anything reacted to those who didn't understand materialism isn't everything.
The verses continue....
"28:81. Then We caused the earth to swallow him up and his house; and he had not (the least little) party to help him against Allah, nor could he defend himself."
Note: If Allah loved the Man for his riches, he wouldn't have punished.
"28:82. And those who had envied his position the day before began to say on the morrow: "Ah! It is indeed Allah Who enlarges the provision or restricts it, to any of His servants He pleases! Had it not been that Allah was gracious to us, He could have caused the earth to swallow us up! Ah! Those who reject Allah will assuredly never prosper."
Note: Those who wished to have the same wealth and wanted to be in the position of the punished Man, changed their views.
Muslims are told not to look at who is better position than them in terms of wealth or material. There is nothing to envy if the wealth has no values at all. And there is no value for someone who doesn't believe in Allah and in the day of judgement.
Allah says:
"20.131 Nor strain your eyes in longing for the things We have given for enjoyment to parties of them(disbelievers), the splendor of the life of this world, through which We test them: but the provision of yuor Lord is better and more enduring."
A muslim should not be bothers by the little provisions he has or be fooled by the riches of non-muslims. I remeber missionaries selling christianity because of the riches it offers to people. All the wealth western countires achieved came about through ATHEISM. The church to this day has no authority in any place. But they decieve muslims in Africa who don't understand the true nature oh the western countires and thus some of them Accept a religion that westerners themselves view as intelligible.
One reason that learning Islam is very important is to understand why YOU ARE A MUSLIM in the first place. Are you a muslim because you have some gain in there?. Or you are a muslim because you understand what it means to believe in Allah and all that relates to it?. If you have doubts seek the knowledge at the appropriate places. Buy the Quran and read it to yourself in a language you understand. Go visit the mosques if you are telling the truth. That is what one should do to make sure he makes his/her own decisions based on knowledge but not on desires and whims. |
