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now and again

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 12:47 pm
Dear beautiful sister, (I'm a sister as well, so don't panic..lol..i'm not hitting on you..).
I have just finsihed reading your article on hijaab, identity,and etc. And I must say I almost cried..you could not have poked me in a worse place. Let me tell you a little about myself and my problem.
You see allah has blessed m with a muslim family (I'm not just saying that, my mom (allah bless her)turned a serious muslim when she was about 16..to the horror of her family, and they made life hard for her, especially her brother. But alhamdulilah she survived..and now there is us to worry about, she tries so hard to build our relationship with god...which is very hard indeed considering we (my siblings and I) grew up in the U.S of A..and it can get so darn hard to stay streight. Enough about my family background. let me tell you about me.
I don't have very strong faith, I have a very weak faith. It's so easy for me to lose my path, to have one thing lead to another, until I am so far away that I can't even recall what knowing god was like. And my life starts going down hill from there..I get depressed,terrible low self esteem..but it's so hard for me to find my path to god again...but alhamdulilah this time I think I have. at this moment I have him in my heart and it makes me cry when I think about how he might just slip away from me at anytime, for I have traveled this road before, where I slip and get up again...and it scares me, terrifies me that I might lose him this time. Allah helps me be happy, he helps me have an inner glow in my heart where no human can reach, I'm normally a strong person..but with out him I'm an empty hollow..and so I'm scared of losing all this. I hate to say it bit it all starts with the hijaab, I normally wear one (not a jalbaab) and I wear long sleeved shirts, long non clinging skirts..but then I start falling, I must look attractive..i must show off my smooth arms, and there goes the long sleeves..make it a three quarter sleeve...and I feel so guilty that my depression begins, just a spark though...but do I stop.noooooooooo..now I must show off the curves god has blessed me with..and my skirts start clinging...until finally I'm far gone in my faith..and I get very depressed for I know I have sinned greatly..so tlg...you see what I'm talking about...everything in my life, my inner peace is so connected with my realtionship with god..but at the same time i'm so scared of slippin..so scared.
(allah pls don't let me go)
..so my q tlg is...any suggestions???..I could talk to my mom..but she really doesn't know at times how far I've been...and she is so advanced in here faith that it shames me when she talks about big things that I haven't yet built up to.
so tlg....what is your opinion?

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MuslimSisTa

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 06:48 pm
Salam All
Now and Again:
wow sis ur piece was very touchy.
sis i'm willing to help any way i can but i'm in a hurry right now. But as soon as i get time u be hearin' from me.

Ur sister in Faith MuslimSista
SAlamzAll:)

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MuslimSisTa

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 06:50 pm
hope ur accepting opinions from others. ARE U?????

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Nasreen

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 08:32 pm
Looks like Galool talking up there. The way he uses God in his writing.

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Nur

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 09:03 pm
Dear Sister

I can never fit TLG chair on this board, and on this issue concerning women, she is a definite authority, but till then, I have this advice for you form a brother's point of view.

Allah says in the Quraan (my translation)

" Those who said Allah is our Master ( the one we obey) and then became steadfast on his path, the angels come down on them, ( assuring them) fear not, and be not sorry, we are your guardians and allies ( to come to your aid in time of distress),
in this life and the life to come, in which you will have all things your souls desires, and you have in there all things you request"

Muhammad Ali the famous boxer when asked " what goes in your head when you are knocked down, replied"

I do not count how many times I am down, I count how many times I get up"


Omar ibnul Khattab Once said

" The soul ( like a horse) has a departure and arrival, When it arrives ( willing to do all good things and loves to obey Allah) do as much good deeds as you can ( Nawaafil), when your soul is on departure from the path of Allah, Make sure you cling to the least requirements ( Faraaidh)"

Sister.

The most difficult thing any muslim can attain is istiqaama, steadfastness. We all have our ups and down, but sister in your long post you did not even suspect the culprit behind your ups and downs.

The culprit is an anemey that you have been warned not to take him as a friend. That is Satan.

Satan glorifies and makes evil look good., He can come from all directions, right , left, in front and behind,

Satan has defied Allah that he will mislead many humans. But Allah did not leave us helpless against his temptation without a weapon.

You see my dear sister, the emptiness you feel in your heart is a result of lack of defenses against Satan, there are no resistance left in your heart to fight back with vengeance aginst this intruder.

The heart is the home of love and remembrance of Allah. If you do not remember Allah, Satan will occupy this space and make fashion and music your utmost priorities, but the minute the fun is over, your heart feels empty again, and Satan comes back yet with another pastime, like watching TV, on and on, so you are drifting from one pleasure to another until one day your name is up. You rae called to come home, your permanent home.

Sister.

Low self esteem is the result of not living up to your place in the Kingdom of Allah. In that Kingdom you are superior than all creatures including Satan who is envious of your special place in this kingdom. He vowed to prove that you are worthless and he is playing all these tricks to get you down on the floor and keep you there.

So, realize that you are the daughter of ADAM to whom all the angels bowed down by Allah's order, what a lofty place is yours, only if you live up to it. This should lift your self esteem.

Second, fight back, like Muhammad Ali said, get up and do not just lay on the floor after one of his blows, Allah will never give up on you, so you do not give up this battle with Satan.

In the Quraan;
" Those who believe when (momentarily) are swept by ( temptations of Satan) they remember, so they see (the reality)"

A pious scholar once on his death bed was asked by his kids to say shahaada, and he kept answering them no. When he gained his consciousness, they asked why he would not say the shahaada, he answered, " Satan came to me at my death and said to me, " you have scaped from me" and I was answering him no not until I am dead" the sheikh was not hearing his childrens request to say shahada.

Sister

Satan has declared war on ADAM's kids, you are one of his targets, join his servants' so take your defenses and get inside the castle of Dhikir.

seek refuge from Satan to Allah.

Say: Subhaanallah
Alhamdulillah
La ilaaha illa Allah many times to your hearts content.


Bismillah
Tawkaltu alaa Allah
Wa la hawla wlaa quwata illa billah

The angels will say " your are guided and protected"

Say " A'oodu bi kalimaatillahai altaammati min sharri maa khalaq.

Say: Subhaanallah as aften as you can, everywhere.

" O tranquil soul, come back to your lord, pleased, and pleasing, so join my servants, and enter my paradise"

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now and again

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 07:32 am
Muslimsista- I would be delighted to have your help and advice..."the more the merrier".

nasreen: galool??..who is that..I do use the word god alot..I remember how in grade school everybody would be like "don't use god's name in vain"..so I guess it's my own sort of rebellion against the society I live in.

Nur; I really liked your advice, and I must say after reading it I feel like I can do it, I can fight the fight. jazaakallaahu khayr

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TLG

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 03:20 pm
NowAndAgain, Asalaamu alaikum dearest sister,

I was quite moved by your message. Don't worry, you are not alone. A lot of our young girls are going through the same thing. I don't have all the answer. I'm weak in faith myself. Only Allah helps me carry on. One way to overcome our temptations is to be around those that are a lil better than us interms of piety. Our friends have a lot to do with how we act or behave. They can uplift us or bring us down as far as our servitude to Allah goes. So, insha Allah stay away from those that make you feel uncomfortable with hijab. Another thing we can do is learn more about the deen, listen to Quran and remember death. One thing that works for me is fear. I'm a real coward (never fought with people as a kid, I always ran home right after school if someone was unhappy with me). So, i'm afraid of punishment. If we remember constantly that we can die any minute, we'll be a bit more careful in what we do. In my Jahiliyah days, I would always pray the night prayer (isha) eventhough I didn't pray the whole day. This is because i was afraid of dying in my sleep. I'm not sure why I thought there was a higher chance of dying at night since i was headless the whole day.
You said it all starts with the hijab. I know it is hard to keep the hijab in this society particularly if our friends are non-hijabis. Perhaps a way to overcome this is to hang out with good sisters that wear hijab. If you are in high school, I know this is even harder (in university, everyone dresses weird anyway, so people don't pay much attention to hijabis as compared to high school). So, stay close to good Muslims as much as possible. Alhamdulilah you have one advantage which is you know your problem. There are others that don't even think what they are doing is wrong and have no sense of guilt. The fact that what you are doing makes you feel guilty is a clear sign of your strong faith. So hang in there dearest sis. It is said that when you take one step towards Allah interms of doing what he ordered and pleasing him, He (SWT) takes several steps towards you. It is also said that when you give up something for the sake of pleasing Allah, Allah rewards you with something better. May Allah make things easy for you my beloved sister.

Here are a few websites that might benefit you:

http://beconvinced.com/ ( this has stories of reverts to Islam that make you cry. Go to the section for new Muslims)

http://www.islaam.com ( This is a very good site for Islamic knowledge. I find the audio section particularly useful. It has Quranic recitation and lectures. Some of my favorite speakers are Bilal Phillips and Yahaya Ibraahim. Please try them out if you have time).

"Our lord, let not our hearts deviate (from the truth) after you have guided us, and grant us mercy from you. Truly You are the Bestower." [Quran 3:8]

A sister who loves you for the sake Allah.

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TLG

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 03:28 pm
NowAndAgain, there are other cool bros/sisters that can give you advice too. Nur, who has already contributed is one of them. The others are Idea, Sweetgirl, Common, NewDeal and FG and others. I hope they come and offer you whatever advice they can insha Allah.

P.S. Nur, Please don't say i'm an "authority" on women's issues. You don't want the sisters to start ordering fatawa! And I start telling them (Allah subhaanauhu wa ta'laa forbid)to take off their hijabs.

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now and again

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 06:54 pm
Tlg- jazaakallaahu khayr...I'll check out those web pages.
I know that there are alot of ppl here that could helpe me...I've seen what nur has to say, and I really appreciate it.
thanx all of you!!!

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Nur

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 07:48 pm
Now and Again

I am pretty familiar with Virginia, I assume you must live in Arlington, Alexandria or in Fairfax County, if so, a good place to get the best possible support would be Dar ul Hijrah. There is a very strong Somali Community there that will extend a helpful hand to you.

Meanwhile, I am elated to hear that you are going to fight back, that is my sister! a great attitude, go get sheitan, his tricks are indeed feeble.

Now that you are going to put on gloves, here are few ringside advices for the first round.

1. Take time alone every day to meet with your self, Look your self in the mirror, and ask your self what kind of person you want to be. and how to go about it. Set your priorites in life, NOW.

2. Dhikir, Don't leave home without it. You must, memorize the daily dhikir and say right after morning prayer, that is when the battle with satan starts. Do not be tempted to postpone it , that is Satan's suggestion. don't fall for it, nothing is more important than dhikir.

3. Like TLG said, select freinds who remind you of Allah, not the ones make you forget him. A muslim is like fish, muslims are like ocean, if you take him out of muslims, his faith dies just like a fish can not survive outside of sea.

4. Seek Islamic knowledge that will further help you stay on your course. The more knowledge you gain, the better servant of Allah you become. Seek halaqa circles in your area, I heard some sisters meet regularly around the Skyline Area in Alexandria.

5. Read Quraan regularly, even if you do not understand at present, because, Allah will open your heart, and someday you will understand, get an English Translation and burn Satan.
Every letter you read you get a Hasana (good deed) recorded for you it is the multiplied by ten, bonus credit. So if your read a juzz of quraan you bag approximately 120,000 hasanaat, these hasanat will erase bad deeds, and get you close to Allah. If you compleate the whole quraan, you get three million six hundred hasanah, and this effort can be done by reading Quraan thirty minutes in a day for a month's Khatmal Quraan after which you sit and make a dua for your Mom and dad. and Burn Sheitan some more.

It may be difficult to keep up with all I said, so whenever you loose motivation, remember, like TLG said, Be afraid of Going stray, and step by step going to become like the faithless famous Somali model Iman. See where Sheitaan has taken her.

This is the first round ringside advice, let us see how badly you want to win this fight. Please inform me how your are doing, it will make us all happy here on this boards to see you win this fight and every fight inshaaAllah

Your ring side advisor.


TLG

you wrote:

" It is also said that when you give up something for the sake of pleasing Allah, Allah rewards you with something better"

Indeed sister, what we get, is the good feeling of Imaan, such a great feeling that is much better than any tempation. I have a first hand experience in reality in the business world, and Allahu Akbar it is so true. I got both what I wanted, more iman, and I am hoping to get a reward for it in Aakhira, trippling my investment in Allah's obdience.

One has to believe ........to see

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common

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 01:57 am
Dear Now and again

A salaam aleikum sister.

most of us are steeped in ignorance, we exchange the high for the low, in order to satisfy something we will never satisfy. I can relate sister, see I think it isn't only about clothing. The guys i live with in my house, go out friday and saturday night, and nearly everytime, i have to explain why i don't want to go out, they look at me strangly when i say i don't want to, if a girl invites me out to a club, i have to think of a way to politely say no. and you feel like somtimes you are "missing out" on something, that life is passing you by. But then they come back the next day, having no more limbs than me, nor in possession of something i need.
In truth, i don't even enjoy any of those activities, the hardest part, is the social pressure, which makes you think that a guy has to do this stuff. The thing sister we have to keep focused on is who it is we wish to please. Do we wish to please others instead of Allah (swt)?, they have no power over us, they have no jurisdiction over our nature, they neither fashioned us or blessed us with favours.
Why be willed by there desires, or indeed our own desires, sister it does get easeir, but never taht much easier, the Shaiten has vowed to stand befroe and behind us as our open buy unseen enemy, so now it is clothing, inshallah when you get stronger on that, it will be something else. But do you see sister, that is life, that is what they are missing out on, the struggle against shaiten, and the striving to please Allah (swt), who needs a hot date, when you can make du ah for those hours, really subhanallah, think about what life really is about, and things willl inshallah turn on there head. I will pray for you sweet sister. Imagine all the hatred, all the ignorance and scowls you will recive for wearing the hijaab, and wonder where that comes from, why such resentment, dear sister the straight path isn't the easiest to walk on, it doesn't have the best lighting, the best roads, or the most traffic. But its about where you wanna go and inshallah you keep to that path and lend Allah (swt) a beautiful loan, and surely you will receive the best wages.
Dear sister you keep those curves , arms etc wrapped up!, for noone will apprecaite your beauty, either they will be jealous or they will seek to covet it with there eyes. Is your life prayer and death for something other than Allah?. Sister, we all related, we all struggling , we all downtrodden, we all debaes confused and shattered, by the evil whispers of shaiten. But are we just gonna give up?, let him win?, when he is a loser of high magnitude!, he seeks only to take us with him misery loves the company of the beautiful and the ugly, the tall and the short, the muslims and the kuffar.
Keep your head up, and fight for every thought, every action, take advantage of yoru high states of imaan, and increase your good deeds, think highly of your self, your lord and your purpose, reach for the stars, observe the suna nd moon made punctual!, then MTV will inshallah look less inviting.

ja zaku alluhu kahir.

your brother in Islam
ps: i will pray your you, please pray for me.
one love

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MAD MAC

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 02:42 am
Common
Actually the one night stand and wild night on the town is over-rated. I've been down that road enough to know. However, a pleasant evening out, a nice glass of wine with dinner, there's a lot to be said for that. But no one should pressure you to do that which goes against your sense of morality. Me personally, I love Latino dancing. I just enjoy it. But if you aren't comfortable with that whole scene, and if you think it's haram, then no one should try and make you shift your personal choices to conform to theirs. I admire the fact that in the land of temptation you can hold the course, even if I think you're mistaken. One last thought, people who try and pressure you to do things against your will are not your friends. Friends don't try and manipulate each other contrary to their moral values.

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Asraar

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 04:47 am
Mad Mac, the sister asked for guidance in how to better live and adhere according to Islamic teachings.
I have seen your writing all over this forums and I don't understand what you are trying to proof.
The sister who started this page didn't ask about your favourite drink or your proclivities for latin dancing! Please have respect for our religion.

Now and again, you have been given wise advice by Nur, TLG and Common. Good luck and be strong sis.

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MAD MAC

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 04:55 am
Asraar
How on Gods green earth did you conclude I don't have respect for your religion? My message was addressed to Common and I was pointing out that he friends who try and pressure him into behavior he's not comfortable with aren't friends.

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TLG

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 07:48 am
Hey MM, stay out of this folder pal, please, would you? I like to be at peace with you.

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common

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:02 am
Mad Mac

thank you for the advice

inshallah next time there will be a more , appropriate place to give advice in a more senstive manner...on this page i am afraid it was rather congruous

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Nur

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:17 am
Common

Jazakah Allah Bro. your story is a lesson for a lot of young Somali men. May Allah strengthen you.

I was very moved by your keenness to use your time for ibada instead of sin, this is nima and I hope you qualify for one of the seven coveted positions in Jannah under the arsh Al Rahman, a young man who grew up in piety. Keep strong and may Allah make you firm.

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MAD MAC

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 10:51 am
Allrighty I'm outta here - cause I like Common and the Sister and defer to their wishes.

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now and again

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 11:32 am
You guys are all so beautiful!!!!!, even now my heart tremors with emotion!.
Common: That was very touching, because I see in you what I myself go through. lol...how many times I have typed and erased trying to put what I feel into words..but it just hit me, the simpler the better. Common: I would be really happy knowing that there is someone out there praying for me. You reminded me of someone I used to go to school with during my early teen years....how I gave him hell all the time with my outspoken arrogance. And we all thought him too naive..too sheikh....he needed to get with the times (the irony of it is that I thought myself a pretty decent muslim at the time)..anyway we parted ways and he is now in another country...he found my e-mail address and sent me an e-mail two years after we parted ways..he sent it to me about 6 months ago. I remembeR hOW I thought "great you can't seem to get away from this guy can you?"..so anyway I sent him back a pretty curt short detached e-mail. To get to the point of my story, a few weeks back I was going through old e-mails sent to me and I came across his e-mail..and at the bottom he had written (it's amazing what sheitan will blind you to) in big bold letters he had written :I WILL PRAY FOR YOU. I was moved to tears, because I finally realized that friends aren't the ones that tell you about the latest party, or newest kind of music...but those who will take the time to pray for you..for truely they are the ones who care.!


MAD MAC- I think you are very open to the idea of Islam but hide behind your cynacism and criticism. For if you weren't..then what are you doing in the islamic section of somalinet..granted you are very interested in the somalis and like to make them tick..but Islam?????..I remember a time where I steered clear of this section.

I WILL PRAY FOR YOU ALL
your sister in ISLAM
NOW AND AGAIN

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now and again

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 11:44 am
Nur ; again you have great advice, I used to live in Virginia..but Now live in Minnesota.
As for my progress I will let you know....I'm trying to make habit of reading adkaaru sabaax after salaatul fajr every morning, and read a maqra before going to school in the morning and just before I go to sleep at night, and i try to read the tasbiix on my way to school in the car..and whenever I see myself getting bored in class or nothing to do...pls pray for me??..and I will pray for you???? Everybody is running around trying to find the secret to life as if it were a big conspiracy..but I guess when you have god everything seems a little more clearer?? a little more beautiful???..and that is what I want ..I want so bad for the love of allah to fill my heart!!!..so pls pray for me?????

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TLG

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 06:54 pm
Salaam all,

NowAndAgain, yes, keep us posted sis. And keep visiting. I'm sure more people will present different ways of overcoming our temptations.

Also, thank you for sharing that story about your friend. You should keep intouch with such people.

I just realized also that I said "don't worry" in my earlier message. I didn't mean not to worry about your situation. I meant not to feel alone and lose hope. Though I knew u understood what I meant, someone mentioned to me that I came across as saying "don't worry, you are fine"lol. Don't wanna give wrong advice here, know what I mean :)

Just to add to what common said about social pressures, sometimes our Muslims friends can be worse than the non-muslims. I know I told u to hang out with Muslims, but I meant GOOD MUSLIMS. Our muslim friends can drag us to do haraam things sometimes. And we are normally a bit lenient with them coz they are Muslim, specially if we know them from our Jahiliyah days. Some will feel u are judging them when u tell them u can't indulge in what they wanna indulge in. Infact, I find it easier to tell a non-Muslim "I can't do this" compared to a Muslim. I live with Muslim girls. None of them practise. And it is a real trial at times. I can't stress the importance of good Friends.

Insha Allah you will be fine. Keep fighting.

salaam.

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Nur

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 09:14 pm
Now and Again


I will pray for you InshaAllah, your last psoting was a heart mover, it is worth a billion.

Sister, as long as you keep Allah in your heart, his tasbeeh in your tangue, and your forehead on the floor, you can't go wrong.

Umar ibnul Khattab RA once said

" If I was not busy struggling in the path of Allah. or puting my forehead on the sand in prostration, or chatting with a group of prople who are so decent that they chose the best of words like we chose the best among fruits (timir), I wish I was with Allah (dead)"

Sister, now that you have come this far. Remember that Sheitan is mad, so get ready for round two of his fight:

1. Your change will upset some sheitan dominated peolple, he will use them to give you hard time, so, stick to your dhikr.

" O Allah, I seek refuge, that I mislead, or I am mislead, or that someone, out of ignorance aproach me with nonsense, or I do the same to others........."

2. If you do not call others to the path of Allah. Others will call you to the path of Sheitan. So attck is the best defense.-Get involved in the community.

3. Do not leave anytime idle, use excess time for volunteer work, community work, like going to and old lady or s sick person and helping them with their chores for a day. Omar used to do that.
The more you help people, the more they make dua for you and the more Allah guides you further. There is an immense satisfaction helping the poor and the disadvantaged.

4. Sit down in front of your mom, and look at her face, with love,.....just stare for a long time until she smiles, it is a form of Ibadah, make her happy by living as a good Muslim sister. For someone who resisted her days to keep her faith, you seem to have the right genes.

" And those who believed and their offspring have followed them with faith, we group them together ( to enter Jannah),...."

That is all for today, be good.


As for the brother who you got his email, by all means, wrirte him back, and cheer him up, tell him that you have a change in your heart, a good ending is very pleasing, let him know his dua worked and stay in touch with him.

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Nur

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 09:16 pm
Now and Again


I will pray for you InshaAllah, your last psoting was a heart mover, it is worth a billion.

Sister, as long as you keep Allah in your heart, his tasbeeh in your tangue, and your forehead on the floor, you can't go wrong.

Umar ibnul Khattab RA once said

" If I was not busy struggling in the path of Allah. or puting my forehead on the sand in prostration, or chatting with a group of prople who are so decent that they chose the best of words like we chose the best among fruits (timir), I wish I was with Allah (dead)"

Sister, now that you have come this far. Remember that Sheitan is mad, so get ready for round two of his fight:

1. Your change will upset some sheitan dominated peolple, he will use them to give you hard time, so, stick to your dhikr.

" O Allah, I seek refuge, that I mislead, or I am mislead, or that someone, out of ignorance aproach me with nonsense, or I do the same to others........."

2. If you do not call others to the path of Allah. Others will call you to the path of Sheitan. So attck is the best defense.-Get involved in the community.

3. Do not leave anytime idle, use excess time for volunteer work, community work, like going to and old lady or s sick person and helping them with their chores for a day. Omar used to do that.
The more you help people, the more they make dua for you and the more Allah guides you further. There is an immense satisfaction helping the poor and the disadvantaged.

4. Sit down in front of your mom, and look at her face, with love,.....just stare for a long time until she smiles, it is a form of Ibadah, make her happy by living as a good Muslim sister. For someone who resisted her days to keep her faith, you seem to have the right genes.

" And those who believed and their offspring have followed them with faith, we group them together ( to enter Jannah),...."

That is all for today, be good.


As for the brother who you got his email, by all means, wrirte him back, and cheer him up, tell him that you have a change in your heart, a good ending is very pleasing, let him know his dua worked and stay in touch with him.

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BroIslam

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 06:33 pm
Asalamu Alaykum sister now and again,

The battle you are fighting is a universal one. I imagine that sisters have to bear the brunt of torment for being Muslim is a Kafir lands.

Ya Ukhti, I feel for you! Yet there is One who feels and is more aware of your situation then me and even you!
Ya Ukhti, I wish I could wave a magic wand and cause all the trails and temptations to disappear; Yet there is One who has no need for a magic wand and is All Powerful
Ya Ukhti, I would shelter and protect you; Yet Allah is The protector (Alhafiz)

Ya Ukhti!, Let us not forget the conversation that took place between Allah and Iblis.

Allah has cursed him (Iblis); and he (Iblis)said: Most certainly I will take of Thy servants an appointed portion

and Iblis says

“And most certainly I will lead them astray and excite in them vain desires, and bid them so that they shall slit the ears of the cattle, and most certainly I will bid them so that they shall alter Allah's creation; and whoever takes the Shaitan for a guardian rather than Allah he indeed shall suffer a manifest loss”.

Ya Ukhti, Allah tells us
He gives them promises and excites vain desires in them; and the Shaitan does not promise them but to deceive.

Ya Ukhti, this is the truth of the affair.

On a more personal note, I had the misfortune of living on residence among Kufar for a year!
I come to realize that there is no barakah living or associating with them. None what so ever. The best of them did not remind me to pray my salah and the worst of them Hated Islam and Allah. I asked myself time and time again what im I doing in here. I feared that, Allah would take my life while I was in there evil company.

Ya Ukhti, I tried to be ‘Normal’ and so I compromised a little every day. But little did I know they were after my soul! Allah says,

“Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion.”
This is the truth of the matter, Ya Ukhti. They despise us every time we say no to their evil invitations because it reminds them of THE HOUR in the back of their heads. Don’t think that they don’t know about death and the hour rather it is all they think about and the seek to repress it! Why do you think they indulge in every possible distractions or trills? The last thing they need to hear is, “No, I don’t drink because im Muslim”. Wallahi They are like aimless heards drifting ever closer to being slaughtered and they perceive it not!

YA UKHTI, THE BEST OF THEM WILL NOT SAY, SISTER ITS TIME FOR DUHUR PRAYERS!!! THIS IS THE BEST OF THEM.. I talk about their best in hopes that you will know what the worst of them will do.

I remember, while I was in their wicked company, ever time they asked me to go out with them. I recited to myself,

“Those who believe, and whose hearts find satisfaction in the remembrance of Allah; for WITHOUT DOUBT IN THE REMEMBRANCE OF ALLAH DO HEARTS FIND SATISFACTION”

and this is the truth ya ukhti, you also have witnessed it. Every time we stray a believer is filled with remorse unhappiness and guilt. It is almost as if Allah restrict our chest and makes breathing difficult for the believer. There is only two ways to lift this burden(feeling of guilt) from a believer ya Ukthi. Only two ways. One ways is to repent sincerely to Allah and only a repentor knows the joys associated with repenting. Dear sister, the other way to overcome the feeling of remorse is to persist in out transgressions until our hearts turn as hard as a rock. Ya Ukhti, We should seek refuge in Allah from getting a dead heart!

Ya Ukhti, the fact that you feel bad about your wrong doings is a cause to give thanks to Allah.

Ya Ukhti, How can we forget the approach of the Hour! read the following verses so that Allah may have mercy on you!

So when the appointed time comes and the hour is close at hand for the standing of mankind in front of the Lord of the Worlds “the Trumpet will be blown with a single blowing and the Earth and the Mountains shall be removed from their places and crushed with a single crushing”. Then the Inevitable will have occurred and the Day of Resurrection will have drawn near and the Sure Reality will have been justified and the Striking Hour will have struck. “It will be but a single blast and so behold! They will all be brought up before Us” and they will “from their graves come quickly to their Lord” hastily, bewildered (barefooted, naked and uncircumcised) whilst saying “Woe be to us! Who has raised us from our places of sleep? (It will be said to them): This is what ar-Rahmaan promised and the Messenger spoke the truth” and “On that day mankind will follow strictly (the voice of ) Allah's caller and no crookedness (without going to the right or left) will they show him (Allah's caller) and all voices will be humbled for ar-Rahmaan. Nothing will you hear except the voices of their footsteps”. The tongues will have become dry and withered so “That will be the Day when they shall not speak (during some part of it) and neither will they be permitted to put forth any kind of excuse” and their eyes will be cast down and humiliation will overcome them “And all faces will be humbled before the Everliving, the One Who sustains all that exists”. And “Some faces on that Day will be white and some faces will be black” then mankind will be gathered into two parties “A party in Paradise and a party in the Blazing Fire”. Then as for the people of misery then woe be to them for their evil condition and woe again for the terror of their end position ”When they will be brought and made to stand in front of their Lord He will say : Is this (the Resurrection and the Reckoning) not the Truth?”. There will be no reply for them but “Indeed! Yes our Lord!” Indeed they were not of those who responded, but were of those who would swear (that they would not be raised) until the covering was removed and their confusion gone, so their Originator and Creator will say to them “So taste therefore the Torment for that you did not believe” , “And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied against Allah, their faces will be black. Is there not in Hell an abode for the arrogant?”. Those materialistic disbelievers of the Resurrection saying “There is no (other life) but our (present) life of this world and never shall we be resurrected” or those who hindered the messengers of Allah and their call (to Allah), who have now arrived at the Hour of Punishment and the Hour of Absolute Justice, the Day when “No soul will be wronged in a single thing and when you shall not be rewarded except for what you used to do” Their eyes and hearts and ears had been locked from every ray of light from the Truth so their punishment: “We shall gather them on the Day of resurrection on their faces deaf, dumb and blind, their abode will be Hell”. So one among them will say “O My Lord! Why have you raised me up blind while I had sight before? (Allah) will say: Like this Our signs came to you but you forgot them so this day will you be forgotten likewise”. There will the hearts be torn to pieces, with remorse and the eyes will shed tears of blood “The Day when the wrongdoer will bite at his hand and say : Oh would that I had taken a path with the Messenger. Ah woe be to me!” and the sinners will say about the reality regarding themselves in the days of this world “Alas for us that we neglected and gave no thought to it, while they will bear their burdens on their backs and evil indeed are the burdens that they will bear. And the Life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. Far better is the home in the Hereafter for those who guard themselves from evil. Will you then not understand?” Alas what a day that would be and alas how severe will be its terrors! The saved is indeed he who is saved on that day and the destroyed one is the one whose sin destroys him. Beware of the example of such a one! So let us return and interrogate our souls, then beat them into obedience, then purify them, then exert ourselves with vigour. But alas! How few and far are those who strive in this era of the heedless.

Ya Ukhti, the Rasool (PBUH) warned us saying,
: ‘‘Verily in front of you are days of patience. Patience in these days is like holding on to hot coals. The one who is patient in these days gets the reward of fifty men who do the like of his action.’’’’ They said: O Messenger of Allaah, Do they get the reward of fifty of their men? He said: ‘‘The reward of fifty of your men.’’

Ya Ukhti we are living in these days! Also dearest sister avoid the company of kufar a much as possible except to give them dawah. Because THIS IS THE BEST OF THEM (kufar) IS GOING TO HELL!, except those whom Allah Guides! I pray that we meet in junnah sweet sister. Ameen!

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not so smart

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 09:45 pm
What does Ya Ukhti mean???????????

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Nur

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 07:24 am
Bro Islam

Jazaakallah Bro. Your message to sister (Now and Then) was a message that all of us can benefit from. May Allah give you the credit for your advice, and make you firm in your faith. Husnul khaatimah, aamiin.

Please contribute to the page on " UNDERSTANDING ISLAM , Subtopic = Do You Love Allah" on this forums at Somalinet.


Not So Smart

Yaa Ukhtee means " My sister"

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now and again

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 08:00 am
wow....I'm so glad to see so many people wanting to help me!
bro islam- your advice is very much appreciated!!..again..thank you all!!

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Lady Jane

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 02:40 pm
Asalama caleykum wa raxmatullahi wa barakatu!

To now and again:

Allow me to primarily commend you on your courage to step forward and share your experiences with such unabashed candour!You have much to be admired dear sister.

If I may be so impertinent as to boldy share my views with you,keeping in mind that Her Ladyship received no invitation as such to enter hither!After almost reducing me to tears,I feel I must impose..as I can no longer hold my tongue or in this case stop the itch of my fingers to type!Please forgive me in advance.

My dear sister,I didn't think it possible that there could be someone else whose plight I could feel as strongly and as deeply as I felt yours.Your narration bore such similarity to that of my own situation,I was left with no choice but to be truly astounded.

As my brothers and sisters before me so eloquently summarized,in essence LIFE IS SHORT and we should resist the temptations of this world...for all it holds are short-termed,temporary,hollow and glitterless gratifications which as we have all experienced at one point or another we end up painfully regretting.

My sister,I have been wearing the hijab for the past five years now...but I am sad to say that I have skillfully mastered the morbid art of neglecting the merit of the hijab,its purpose and the abuse of its grace.

I gladly accepted the evolutionary stages my hijab went through...simply because this was a huge commitment and the rest of the world was just going to have to be patient,understanding and accepting of all the tantrums I threw until I decided I was good and ready!!!

And so I let "nature run its course." I started wearing the hijab with inapprotiately tight and curve revealing skirts and tops.I was of the conviction that I could "spice up" the hijab without compromsing the fulfilment of its requirements.One could not have been more misguided!

As if the body hugging attire wasn't enough I started to wear the hijab in the form of the infamous BANDANA.Then I started getting a lot of unnecessary attention from none other than the opposite sex.This really alarmed me; for I considered myself a MODEST muslim woman who prayed everyday and read the Qur'an every once in a while.Moreover,I could swear Allah could bear witness that I was trying my sincere best...So why was I suddenly feeling guilty about my actions...if I was so right to begin with?

Alxamdullilah just before Ramadan,I started visiting the women's forums here and happened to bump heads with TLG...yeah I know a lot of us started out that way..lol! Somehow the sister managed to peek my interests such that I would no longer invest my energy into steering clear of the Islam folder...instead I started cherishing and to my surprise even looking forward to my visits here and soon every folder besides the Islam folder had pathetically lost all of its appeal!

I couldn't have asked for a better gift during the holy month of Ramadan.Furthermore,I had no idea I was in need of such an extensive soul-cleansing! One could not have asked for a more enlightening reformation process.I've realized that above everything else the COMPANY you keep either makes you or breaks you.So I decided to make a conscientious effort towards shedding the company of those who did nothing more for me than to light and smoothen the road to hell for me.

I am in complete agreement with BroIslam in his lamenting about the grave damage the company of Kufaar can inflict on your soul.As for the muslims who are either not practicing at all or are weak in their faith...then I could offer them very little help or assistance until I myself sought out the truest meaning of what it is to be a muslim.This time around my search would have to involve my heart,mind,body and soul....because without the above in such perfect combination with one another,one can't honestly claim to be on a sincere and unbiased quest for knowledge.

Sis,keep the faith..no matter what.Remember everything is in some way or another a test of our Imaan and our devotion to All-Mighty Allah.Bear in mind that God works in ways mysterious to us and shouldn't hesitate to put ALL of our trust in Him.Always smile and cherish everyday of your life with the remembrance of Allah to lead your way.Commit His beautiful names to memory so that He may respond to you when you call on Him in your time of need.Most of all remember that before anything else you are a MUSLIM that is a reason to rejoice abaayo.So be PROUD and HAPPY that you are a memeber of club so abundantly blessed by the Lord of the Worlds!

I've obviously said enough.I'll make room for others.

Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all!

Lady Jane.

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Lady Jane

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 05:14 pm
Asalama caleykum wa raxmatullahi wa barakatu!

One more thing,jazak-Allah khayran to all of you guys.

To TLG:

My sister as always you've touched my heart.May Allah bless you for encouraging so many of us...especially given the fact that we do not see the fruits of our labour immediately.Thank you so very much for your kindness.I haven't the slightest idea as to how to make you comprehend the magnitude of the impact you've had on me as a woman,an individual and of course as a muslim.

To BroIslam:

I love your passion and intensity.How noble of you to take the time to express yourself to such depth...every word is appreciated my brother.I agree so vehemently about the matter regarding the association of oneself with the Kufaar...there just aren't enough words to fully express how much truth there is to what you said above.I won't even attempt to top or even come close to what you've said up there.

To Common:

My brother I was sincerely touched by the realness of your experience.I've never been much of a party girl..but I have to say that the temptation has come across several times and al-xamdulilah I often don't find it to hard to resist...go figure.Yes,indeed I have also found myself trying to fully understand what it is that my friends feel they've gained after a good head-banging on a Friday night....honestly I see no change...just a lot of fatigue which they accumulate and an endless list of people and events to gossip about...yet another hobby I have taken a great dislike to.However,one thing I can fully appreciate is your sympathy towards us sisters and issues that face us...that is a sight for sore eyes indeed!I can't begin to tell you just how vital it is for us sisters to have unconditional support from brothers like you...others are too busy thinking up more innovative ways to add to your already lengthy list of social pressures.You are really a man of great kindness and understanding to make such a statement...especially when such views are soooooo unpopular among your sex.Thank you and jazak Allah khayran.

To Nur:

Sweet brother,where do I even begin? I am truly at a loss for words.Rest assured that you have reduced an otherwise EMOTIONALLY TOUGH sister to absolute tears.I hope you're proud of yourself!!!
What you've said is so true.Each and every one of your pieces impacted me in a sincerely unexpected way.I particularly enjoyed your profoundly style of incorporating the verses of the Quran and Hadith so as to use them not only as a tool to efficiently express your views but to lean on them for support and guidane in your argument.I was undoubtedly moved.You know most of the time I simply eavesdrop on the several topics that you guys have put up your input on and I must say that I am growing quite fond of you...I like the way you think..I honestly mean that.So do you mind sharing with me just what prompted you on your quest for the greater truth..if you don't mind? I think once you get past my rather annoying sense of inquisitiveness..we'll get along just fine..lol!

Okay it's starting to look like I'm occupying an illegal amount of space...cyber security doesn't look too pleased.Later.

May Allah(swt)forgive our sins and shield our hearts from the temptation of man and Satan and make the path to salvation one of few difficulties and even fewer distractions.Amiin.

Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all!

Lady Jane.

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Imam Shafia Mosque

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 06:14 pm
Salaama Aleikum

now and again

Sis now and agian our bro/sis gave you advice I can't add more than that, but i have one thing for you as you said you live in Minnesota we have very strong communtiy together bro/sis doing dawa
if you need Islamic class in the weekend come to the Imam Shafia Mosque(Cedar area) after Makhrib sunday and saturday for Tafsiir Quran, also we can give you ride if you want learn reading quran for weekends too, this is our email Mosque contact us insha Allaahu.

PS: To my Bro/Sis Keep Pumping Dawa insha Allaahu
When day you will receive Good deeds.

abubakars@tcinternet.net

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Nur

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 11:36 pm
Lady Jane

You wrote

"So do you mind sharing with me just what prompted you on your quest for the greater truth..if you don't mind? I think once you get past my rather annoying sense of inquisitiveness..we'll get along just fine..lol!"

It all started when I was ten, I became fond of Allah, I day dreamed about how Allah looks like, I could sense his presence all the time, as a kid when I saw any awsome sight, I would think of Allah. So one day, I asked my dad how Allah looks like, he told me that Allah is different than anything that I could imagine.

When I became teenager, I felt his presence with me all the time, I had bad influence around me, but, going against Allah was never an easy path for me. In a party I would sit alone, and feel uneasy, pretending but deep inside I hated the gathering, smoke, loud laughter, intermingling, and all jahiliyah stands for.

During this period I met a brother (may Allah Love him) who I enjoyed his company. When I go with him, there was no cigarette, his place was spotless clean, he wore a milion dollar smile, he simply captivated me with his personality. A character I have never found in the mess that I was associating with at the time.

Lo and behold, I began spending most of my free time with this brother, He would prepare tea and we talk for hours but never did he bring up nonesense or dawa, just mubaah discussion on issues of education , jobs, world problems and so forth.

He would ask me to excuse him to make a prayer, while I sit and watch him pray, it crossed in my mind , what is it that I am not doing what this brother is doing. One day I surprised him when he asked me to excuse him to tell him that I was taahir and my clothes are taahir and my soul was taahir,( good intention) I wanted to join him in prayer. The prayer was so soothing and serene I felt like a 300 pound gorilla was off my back, I felt light, and very happy, I could not wait for the next prayer time. I went and bought a thowb to declare my new identity, and you should see the enjoyment I got from gazers who wondered about about my peculiar thowb.

I never looked back since, there is no going back, and it was Allah's mercy that to this day my biggest fear is loosing my faith. My biggest hope is seeing his Face, And I am so fond of Allah that, whenever sheitan gives me a list of his suggestions (usually 99 good ones : one really bad) I would be keen in returning back to Allah.
I vowed that, like a ship captain that I will never stop calibrating my instruments to find the right course at any given point of time and place. This constant calibration I call it thikir of Allah brought me where I am today, as I espouse a combination of Aqeedah I took from the Salaf Al Saalix, vision from community involvement, and piety from thikir, a ballance that is difficult to maintain specially when you add trials of the business world which reminds of a garbage dump with many wild dogs to share bones with, it is impossible leaving with your bone unscathed.

My second awakening happened in the business world, details of that trial and triumph is posted on the page ( Do You Love Allah)- Understanding Islam, Islam (religion).

I must say that I have benfited from this board, brothers and sisters whom I am only connected with the IP protocol, and a miriad of cables, fibers, routers,and switches on one hand, and through the heavens on the other hand. The heavenly connection is by far the more everlasting one, as everything around us will vanish, and the glorius face of Allah will remain.

I hope that Allah bestow his mercy on this board its contributors and readers who are sincerely seeking his pleasure.

" This (indeed) is your ummah, one ummah, and I am your lord so worship me (love me)"

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Nur

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 11:59 pm
Lady Jane

I forgot to complement you with your usage of the English language, I come form a scientific bacground in my academics, but I enjoy writing in general and Dawa writing in particular. Please consider using Allah's gift to you in his service.

Allah says in Quraan " Seek the hereafter ( by using )bounties Allah has given you ( as as a means) ..."

Second, you wrote:
" You know most of the time I simply eavesdrop on the several topics that you guys have put up your input on and I must say that I am growing quite fond of you"

That is how I started few months ago, if you are not careful, this group ( TLG being the ring leader) can drag you to Jannah in chains........LOL

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common

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 02:39 am
Lady jane.

<big smile> thanks sister for the sweet words

<Bigger smile> mercy and understanding between each other is all we need sometimes. what would th world be like with out forgiveness, mercy and compassion? Ya Allah! imagine we were not blessed with this things. Allah (swt) could have easily made us hard towards each other, with no feelings

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BroIslam

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 03:08 am
Asalamu Alaykum Your Ladyship,

My sister read to me your post in an English accent. I found your words to be sincere, true and funny. Bro Nur is correct, You are very gifted. May Allah Increase you in all that is good. Please don’t think that you are taking up too much space on this forums. Let your words flows. Dear sister, I suggest that we make a folder just for you. You are in a league of your own! I humbly request your leave and bid you Farewell

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now and again

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 09:03 am
Lady Jane- I'm very glad you joined our discussion, and I am really happy to read your story. I honestly love the way you speak- very humorous but serious at the same time..I like that....which reminds me: that infamous bandana, you've been there too huh??..I never made it a habit but I wore it two or three time,and I know exactly what you mean but unneccessary attention, I wouldn't think about it much at first..but later when I get home at night and I'm in my cozy bed I think about how really repulsing it was to have so many people have their eyes roving over you..until you feel unclean and over-used even though you might have been yards away from them!!!..I really hope allah keeps me from that .
As for the rest of you, I read what you guys write in between classes in school, and it gives me so much courage, so much inspiration ...I nearly literally fly to my next class. I feel like I can do it, I WILL do it...I can hold on tight and still yet get a better grip on my life line to god...you guys are really inspiring...may we all meet in heaven.

Nur- You can drag me to heaven with a hangman's noose and I really would not mind.... And I know what you mean about getting a guerilla off your back when you really..i mean really connect with allah...everything seems totally trivial compared to having that gorilla off your back...and that's the feeling I'm always striving for to have Nur..do you understande me??..or am I talking in gibberish??...I really Really want that feeling..of awe with the intense feeling of allah's presence...I can get so aware of it at times..that I try the rest of the times to regain that feelin..which can be evasive at times.

Iman shafi- Thanx for the 411...but sadly I don't live anywhere near that area..I'm a small town girl and don't think will last in the city.

Keep it coming folks!!!

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TLG

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 12:04 pm
Asalaamu alaikum...
howdy adorable folks. Sorry to disturb the flow of ideas and encouragements but I need to borrow her Ladyship for a sec...lol.

Lady Jane, sis, if you have time stop by the "Network" folder and read the postings there. Skip all the "funny/humerous" posts by yours truly. Pay specific attention to the rest of the messages. If you like what our lil "cult" (no worries, there aint no initiation rituals to go through...lol) is upto, please send a message to bro Common. His e-mail is in that folder. You don't have to write much. Just an "add me to the list" in the subject field will do. Then, i'll handle things from there.
Jazakallahu khairan.

P.S: If for one reason or another u can't be part of this, no worries. I'm sure the cult members will still love you :)

Now and Again, masha Allah sis, i'm happy for you. You seem to be doing very well. May Allah keep u strong in your faith. That "hangman's noose" thing was funny...lol. :)

Nur, lol. Chains!! You are truly remarkable.

To all the rest of the adorable tribe. Please make dua for me. I want this huge TOY. And this TOY is kinda cool. Very cool infact. So, please ask Allah to grant me the TOY :)

One other thing to add to what BroIslam said, if u are a sister planning to go to university in the near future, please stay away from the dorms/residences. That place is the road to damnation. If u wondering why, to say the least, if u have a room mate with a signifant other, you will be eating, sleeping, breathing the libary. Ofcourse your grades will be "up and nice" but......ok, You get my point.

Ok you beautiful creatures. Salaam.

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TLG

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 12:07 pm
Lady Jane, I forgot to mention, since the "dot com" industry isn't doing too well these days, we might actually have a job for you as a technical writer...lol...ok, that should motivate you...lol.

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Lady Jane

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 12:24 pm
Asalama caleykum wa raxmatullahi wa barakatu!

Her Ladyship wishes to thank each and everyone of you for having been so kind.I must say I hadn't expected to spark such a response from all of you.I am truly indebted.Her Ladyship has yet to come across a group so hospitable and warm such as this.Jazak-Allah Khayran.

To Nur:

Maasha Allah,maasha Allah! I found your story quite unique.I am so glad that your friend had such a positive impact on you.On that note,I happen to have a cousin who seems to be in sort of a similar situation to yours.The thing is in this case,I'm the one who has excuse herself to go pray while she waits for me.However,I've never judged her for that and I'm sure that she knows that I don't condone it either.As the saying goes "actions speak louder than words," and so instead of telling and reminding her of something which I'm sure is already obvious to her...I let my actions speak for themselves and lately after three long years I think I'm finally breaking the ice!!Alxamdullilah..You should have been there to hear the sigh of relief I let out!

Another thing is that I think that sometimes the actions and behaviour of your peers carry much more weight than those of adults,or religious scholars.At least in my experience I find that I am more responsive to my peers or someone whom I have a great deal of respect for rather than say my parents or relatives.

Okay,before you wave the DISOBEDIENCE card at me...it's not that I don't like listening to my parents...it's just that I already know they're going to be RIGHT! And what makes it worse is that they're ALWAYS right! For some reason with them being right one also tends to think that with their advice comes a huge chunk of JUDGEMENT! Her Ladyship abhors being wrong! And so I turn to people whom I think will not judge me or condemn me at first glance.You get my drift don't you? If not,Her Ladyship will be more than willing to clarify all of the madness!! Btw,I think I rather like the thought of being dragged to heaven in chains...I can't think of a more inviting venue to attend!

Regarding my so-called talent...I think all hats are off to you Sire.I simply adore your analogies.They're just so colourful and oh so picturesque,one can almost get carried way into a sea of endless daydreaming.

To BroIslam:

I must warn you kind sir,Her Ladyship is notorious for indulging herself in compliments paid to her;however minute! I'm afraid you will have me walking a significant number of inches off the ground as a direct result of all your extravagant compliments.I can only predict that Her Ladyship will be sufficiently corrupted.

Hence,in light of recent events,Her Ladyship is currently comtemplating discarding horse-back riding and all other recreational activities so that Her Ladyship may have ample time to reflect,absorb and savour these oh so delightfully uplifting compliments.So disregard Her Ladyship's fear of being corrupted and kindly see to it that the compliment well never runs dry...lol!As for hearing me speak in an English accent...I must say that an irreversible consequence of such a breath-taking experience would be to have all of your senses arrested!

To nowandagain:

Dear sister,Her Ladyship is so pleased to hear that you have not found my experiences foreign to you but on the contrary.You were very gracious in your response.Thank you.I am ecstatic that you are resisting becoming a follower of Satan.It makes me so proud of you.I sincerely mean that.
You said that you live in a small town... presumably with an even smaller muslim population.Is that a challenge sometimes or does it actually contribute to reaffirming your faith in Allah? Just curious...

To Common:

You're welcome,you're welcome.You know people always ask me why I seek so much compassion, mercy,understanding and LOVE in people and everything else...my retort is always that I was starved for AFFECTION as a child!!!Now that's an icebreaker!!!God it's so thrilling shocking people to get what you want out of them...lol!Seriously though,these qualities go a long way to encouraging anyone in anything that is good,especially in matters of the spirit!

Okay,I'm going to have to go back to that curiousity thing again...yeah I know it does get old doesn't it...please bear with me and soon I shall be out of your hair!

Do you guys mind sharing with me where you all are residing...if that is not already classified as SENSITIVE INFORMATION?! I just would like to put a face behind the screen name you know.Btw,I live in Seattle and I was just wondering if I am neighbouring any of you wonderful people.

You can always decline...then I'll just send out the dalmations to sniff their way to your mysterious current places of residence..lol!

Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all!

Lady Jane.

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Lady Jane

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 12:43 pm
Asalama caleykum wa raxmatullai wa barakatu!

Not to worry this will be short an painless, considering that I have a significantly blunt and rusty scalpel to stab this thing with...lol!

To TLG:

My sister,I guess we were both composing our thoughts at exactly the same time.So you're the ring leader of this cult eh? I couldn't have more respect and reverence for you!Thank you for finally accepting me into this highly exclusive club of yours.I'm sure you're very selective in your process..lol! I am officially delirious with joy!...and there's no hazing either!!!Ah,this much joy should be illegal!Girlfriend you just made my day! I'll get on the folder/address thing right away. At your leave I shall even humbly accept your generous job offering..lol!!

Btw,is everyone in here Somali?I tend to throw in some Somali every now and then..and I would hate the thought of a foreigner scrambling for a dictionary...painstakingly trying to find the meaning to my Somali words.I want to refrain from offending anyone.

Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you!

Lady Jane.

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now and again

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 03:03 pm
Lady Jane- again, you make me chuckle with your way of talk your ladyship!!.
As for me living in a small town, yeah..I guess you would say it has a very small muslim population. But the sad thing is that I never had a friend to discuss relegion and guide each other..it seems like nobody is in my league..either they are too good (by this I mean they are way above me) or they are not quite my level. By my level I mean ..struggling, not so good muslim. My family is comtemplating moving to the cities, (minneapolis)and I might get involved in the relegious establishments there.
One thing I always had a problem with, is "societies..groups" You know??..Alot of people I have seen belongs to one relegious establishment..either they are islaax, or itixaad..or such. And I guess what my problem is I want to be a MUSLIM..no strings attached, no groups!. I still have a hard time figuring out what makes them so different. I know people need to have each other to help one another get through the hard times of being muslim..but I want any and every good soul to help me. I'm sorry for rambling on and on..
TLG- lol..I will pray for you to get your toy..inshallaah..., I would be happy if you guys would pray for me to get a girlfriend, that we can help each other stand on the streight path??and lead each other onward...pls??pray for me?

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Ubah

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 03:03 pm
Asalama caleykum wa raxmatullai wa barakatu! (just borrowed this greeting from lady Jane)

What about Somali Speaking Bro/ Sis we feel left over here please give us our share. As Sister TLG said she is from Czech republic in this form, we are not from anywhere elso except SOMALIA so please help us.

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GhettoGirl

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 03:05 pm
I hereby declare an all out war with Lady Jane loooooooool I can't stand this I'm the one that's suppose to be getting all the attention!

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New Deal

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:43 am
Salaam,

Wow, I missed a lot, so much so that I don't know where to start. Well, I just got it. I AGREE WITH ALL OF YA' in all that you said. So, bravo, fellow friends. The words you said carried wisdom, the responses you gave excellent, and the reward from Thy Allah must be on its way. Again, job well done guys: NOWandAgain (symbol of courage), Lovely Nur, BroIslam, the Comedian TLG, Her Ladyship(aka cheerleader, in American terms), Common (thought uncommon among the masses) and the rest. Now, let me throw one-liner

Now and Again,

I think much has been said and you guys had lovely discussion, so I don't wish to add something for the sake of saying something. I think you guys have done great job in terms of exchanging ideas and how you feel.

I was thinking of your last post though, and had this though to share with you about what you said but kinda feel as if it will be a drift from the ongoing dialogue, so I would save it for some other place.

Ubah,

You want things to be said in Somali, and YOU don't speak or write the English Language? Hmmmm. Sis, while reading your post (Which was English by the way, if I may remind you) I was thinking of hiring you as Teaching Assistant for the English LAnguage. You got a good grip of the language, so what is the deal here? Just curious.

TLG,

What in the world are you doing inviting Her Ladyship to join our so-called cult! Don't you see how full of humorous she is?

Her LAdyship,

Plz do join the list and contribute, your words are so, so....(can't even find words to describe them). Anyways, you are in, right?

GhettoGirl,

loool! You just get the attention. Satisfied now?

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TLG

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 12:25 pm
Asalaamu alaikum...

NowAndAgain, Thanks sis. Insha Allah i'll also make dua for you to get a friend that will help u out. I know how important it is to have someone that will encourage us whenever we feel alil down. So, insha Allah, Allah will grant you the friend. keep up the good work.

Lady Jane, thanks sis. But i'm not the ring leader of the group. One thing I can't take credit for. But if you were to "look" at COMMON, I would say you are looking at the right person.

Ubah, moi from the Czech Republic.lol. Sis, didn't u read the disclaimer? Ok, what kinda advice do u need in Somali? Will see what i can do.

New Deal, since i'm taking a break from being humerous, there is a vacancy and I see a candidate for the post (her Ladyship). Besides, the cult members are already used to being given a lil humour here and there so, there you go.

Salaam.

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Lady Jane

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 03:27 pm
Asalamu caleykum wa raxmatullahi wa barakatu!

To TLG:

My sister,Her Ladyship has been in undisturbed prayer up to now asking the Lord that He may grant thee thy wish of securing into your possession this TOY that so cunningly stolen thy golden heart!May Allah accept our prayers.Amiin!

To nowandagain:

Let me be the first to say that it is indeed with great companions and faithful comrades that we see the world through a much more colourful lens.You see,with beautiful people at your side,one would be surprised at how many wonderous things one is capable of accomplishing.More than anything else friends restore faith in oneself,one's capabilities and of course in the human spirit.

It is a challenge indeed finding a friend that it exactly at your level...you know one that speaks exactly the same language you do and fully COMPREHENDS and AGREES with all of the gibberish that your little brain instructs your mouth to spit out..you know what I'm getting at???

It's only natural to hunger and diligently search for the company of this other perfect half.A companion like good,wholesome MILK CHOCOLATE...is one of life's little gifts...soothing you when you need it most with the guarantee of fulfilling your desires unconditionally.Asking for NOTHING in return.Her Ladyship,has yet to find this brillant ally and hence empathizes with you completely.

To Ghettogirl:

I must say that Her Ladyship is quite saddened to find that Her Ladyship's "hogging" of the spotlight has displeased you so.Kindly note that the synthesis of such undue disappointment was never my intention.

Her Ladyship wishes to inquire if you are familiar with the seven deadly sins? If you are not,then I kindly suggest that you look them up.If you are however familiar with them,then I feel the urge to remind you that Greed,Envy and Vanity are three of these sincerely corruptive sins.If I may be so inclined to warn you that playing with fire does not always pay off.

As far as conducting "an all out war," it has long since been a practice,tradition and downright common sense that the Spots stick with the Spots and the Stripes stick with the Stripes.The understanding here is that Her Ladyship will charge her forces only on those of Royal decent.So Her Ladyship asks you this...Are you a blue-blooded aristocrat???

To New Deal:

Her Ladyship is unaware as to how she should address you.I'm quite ambivalent on the matter of you being male or female...your grace,wit and sheer outspokeness(observed on other pages)leave me on my knees fervently praying to the Lord that you are one of us...A WOMAN!!!Has Her Ladyship mentioned how she despises being disappointed?..lol! You were kind indeed in your response..I'm indebted.As for me joining this oh so happy village...
I'M IN! I'M IN! I'M IN!...work of the Cheerleader syndrome...do forgive the outburst!!!

Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all!

Lady Jane.

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BroIslam

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 04:12 pm
Asalaamu Alaykum Your Ladyship

BroIslam is from Toronto, Canada. I am 100% Somali (whatever that means) and can read Somali if I put my mind to it. However, I will need to play back my reading in order to make sense of it! Reading and understanding Somali at the same time is a skill yet to be mastered by me. Please forgive Ghetto girl for her rude comments, she was under the impression that Lady Jane was my sister (my sister claims to be you). They are friends and she (ghetto girl) was joking around with my lil sis. Consider my sister’s claim to be a compliment your ladyship. I shall personally administer a lecture to my lil sis about the evils of impersonation. If by any chance you are my lil sis, God Help us all!

Tell us, your ladyship, how was it that you acquired such mastery over the English language. And you’re not even English! Surely, there must be a story in that? Or shall I say, even in that.

Br Nur,

I read the questions that you posed in the other folder. I tried to verbalize my love for Allah and upon reading it, found it to be inadequate! They are tough question dear brother. I shall attempt it one more time before I call it quits.

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GhettoGirl

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:03 pm
Friday is my day and I have all the time in the world to educate
Our lost souls.

LadyJane or whatever it is you call yourself!

At times, I am puzzled other times disappointed but now I am frankly bored.
Your comment's I find to be nauseating!
I would just like to clear up things by saying that I am not the least bit jealous of you! Like JB said earlier I had you confused for one my peers and just when I was about to apologize for my remark you were quick to judge my faith. I was devastated and not the least bit to say outraged! I am at a loss for words now. I have been following your post for a while. It is my opinion and
Please do not be offended by it, but I think
You seem to be suffering of a serious superiority complex.
I guess the big joke is on you. Like I have said in the past, your mouth needs to be washed with the
Best soap there is, as it needs real and through cleaning. Name-
Calling is officiously, how you get around in life, and of
Course when all else falls resort to insult.
Little-Muslim Lady,
I call you little-Muslim Lady since you have some identity
Crisis and we do not know what you really are. One word of advice for
You "stop" jumping into everybody’s neck and learn how to argue
Your hate without personal attacks. I suspect that your
Little-Qur’n is either full of pages instructing you how to hate,
Alternatively, you are reading it backwards. Your little Qur’an is not going
To help anyone because you are full of hate and confusion.
Not to get off topic here but the fact is that you do not know me henceforth you do not have the right to judge me. Your reply back
Shows me how little respect you have for people, including the ones
You know. Without justifying violence from any other party,
Shells I remind you that my intentions are not to you badmouth you I am just simply speaking my mind. Her Ghettoness would like to inquire if you know the consequences of holding suspicion against your fellow Muslim sister are.
"Verily, for the Righteous are gardens of Delight, in the Presence of their Lord. Shall we then treat the people of Faith like the people of Sin? What is the matter with you? How judge you?" Quran 68:34-36
"Hence evildoers and sinners must have their share of punishment and the virtuous, His bounties and favors. Actually God's attribute of Mercy has full manifestation in His attribute of Justice. People suffering throughout their lives for His sake and people oppressing and exploiting other people all their lives should not receive similar treatment from their Lord. Expecting similar treatment for them will amount to negating the very belief in the accountability of man in the Hereafter and thereby negating all the incentives for a moral and virtuous life in this world. The following Quranic verses are very clear and straightforward in this respect: "


That’s All I have to say for now good day!


PS: I guess you got to build your rehabilitation center big and

Strong, as your attitudes and abilities seem to be well below the

Usual standards of today. You are desperately hammering at the tip

Of the iceberg only, you know. Do not bother apologizing! Times have gone for those who

Think they can only trade in a few camels for a deal with the

Head Honcho (GhettoGirl) you know it does not work like that here. Lady, you got to

Do other things. I see some good posts here by other people, you

Can ask them for advice, preferably the real practicing Muslims such as TLG & JB and so forth. Or else

You and Ali might wind up wiping each other for tears.... :)

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TLG

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:28 pm
Asalaamu alaikum...

Lady Jane, please DO NOT respond to Ghettogirl. Sis, please I beg you don't respond for the sake of Allah. Jazakalllahu khairan.

Ghettogirl, you really disapoint me sis. The sister that started this page did for a specific reason and if we can't benefit her with something good, then we should remain silent.
Sis, I know you were just fooling around with Lady Jane and she was probably just being humerous. I'm sure she didn't mean any harm by whatever she said. So please lets stop this craziness.
It would have been wiser if u created a folder addressed to Lady Jane to settle your dispute.

I pray that this be the last we hear of this issue. Jazaakumullahu khairan.

Wasalaamu alaikum.

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TLG

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:35 pm
Asalaamu alaikum all...
It is me again. One of my roommates who was reading some of the postings above pointed out to me that the "TOY" thing that I mentioned, sounds a lil weird. So, insha Allah let me just clarify and say that it has something to do with my academic life, lest people get ideas. So keep 'em duas coming.

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GhettoGirl

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:36 pm
TLG who says I was fooling around?I'm dead serious!

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TGL

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:58 pm
Ghettogirl,I was refering to your initial post. Peace sis.

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GhettoGirl

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 09:05 pm
Dear Lady Jane:

Empathy,

[the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another] was lacking in my earlier response. In retrospect, had I analyzed your comments, with a neutral heart, I would have been more apt to give you benefit of the doubt. I spend most of my time in the general section and I find myself completely subservient to the habitude I acquired there.I do not like to be criticized and I pray that Allah helps me to accept and correct my faults.

PS: The message may be rejected on account of the messenger or by the very manner in which it is delivered. So to all those who seek to advice me and others, do so in a kind and gentle manner.

Sister, Now and again, please accept my heart felt apologies for disrupting your folder. I did experience a shock followed by an outburst.

Lady Jane, once again sorry for the misunderstanding.

TLG: ( Peacemaker) much love, sister.

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Nur

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 02:42 am
Now again

You wrote " I really Really want that feeling..of awe with the intense feeling of allah's presence...I can get so aware of it at times..that I try the rest of the times to regain that feelin..which can be evasive at times"

Sister, i just did that the last ten days of Ramadan, it was awsome, I lived the best ten days of my life with Allah, No business, no Family, no nothing. It is called Itikaaf, just reading Quraan twenty four hours a day minus sleep time and iftar and suhuur. I read the entire Quraan in 24 hour period, I read quraan interactively, it moved me until I felt the presence of Allah SWT.

To get such a feeling, you must set aside time for Allah alone, escape from family, friends and school. Get a copy of Quraan in a secluded area, read with TADABBUR understand the situations, compare it with our world, until you get carried away with the message of Quraan. Allah is talking to you now, this insignificant human being, the angels are recording your hasanat, and Allah mentions your name with al malaa al Aalaa.

Itikaaf, cleanses the soul, like soap clens the dirt. You only think of Allah and aakhira!!!!!!

When you are done, you would have trouble, assimilating again withe world, and the people with which you share your life. Their priorities are going to look different than yours, but you will feel a sense of belonging, like having a friend in areally HIGH PLACE.

Try this one weekend and let me know how you feel.

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Nur

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 02:46 am
Bro Islam

Jazaakallah for trying to answer questions I posted on the Love of Allah. You are the third person who got scared and still at large, onece they see it they normally say HMMMMMMMMMMM and then they never come back.

I hope you share with us all you have on this topic, You make catch the fever of love of Allah SWT. The optimum form of Ibadah

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MUSLIM

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 04:20 am
lADYSHIP,
DO NOT WORRY SISTER. GHETTOGIRL, TGL ETC ARE EATHER THE SAME PERSON OR ATLEAST FROM SAME FAMILY OR FREINDS. THEY TOOK THE NET VERY SERIOUS. I THINK, THEY SHOULD REFRAIN THE NET FOR A WHILE.

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common

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 05:28 am
Nur

I am having the same problem as Now and Again, my knowledge of Allah (swt), is little so my love for Allah (swt) reflects this, when i hear new things about the favours my heart skips a beat, but i forget quickly too. Your advice is beautiful and i will try it out. I mean we spend so much time learning for dunnah, what about Allah (swt)...can you love what you don't know?,
I think so,amazing one of Allah (swt) favours ! but i think you love more what you know especially with Allah (swt), the more you know, the more you love.I think the shatien takes advantage of my lack of knowldge and decreases my rememberance of Allah (swt). With reading and listening to the Quran, i have never studied it so it is hard to appreciate it, and although i love the recitation, like the rythemic beating of my heart and have a translation which i can read, without a teacher it is hard to encompass its meaning. How ever for the sake of Now and again and myself i wanna remind you, and myself, what our scholar said.
"limp crawl to Allah (swt).. for few have perfect health from the start".

J a zaku Allahu Kahir.
Now and then i forget to pray for you, inshallah my absent mind will remember today.

Ur Brother in Islam

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ALI

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 07:41 am
LOOOOOOOOOOOL@TWO HAWIYE BITCHS
THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE FUNNIEST THING I HEARD SINCE SAID BARRE DIED

LADYJANE & AND GHETTOHOE =HAWIYE=STUPIDTY=IDIOTS


ISSAQ 4 LIFE

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Stranger

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 08:04 am
Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu

Insha-allah, you are all in and excellent state of health and emaan.

Ali:

ISSAQ4LIFE??? The most important thing is not that you are ISSAQ, but that you are a Muslim, one that submits to the will of the Most High. The same Most High that said that he created nations and tribes so that we may know one another!!! - Not to have pride.... the most honourable one being the one who has the most what - the most taqwa! (49:13) Allah yarhamak brother. May Allah take this hatred from your heart... Ameen! Its one thing to have hatred, but to propagate it is another issue! Once again, Allah yarhamak brother.

LadyJane and Ghettogirl, ignore Ali's comments about you insha-allah.

Ghettogirl:

Allahu akbar... may Allah reward you for your asking pardon from Lady Jane. It takes a lot for one to appologize. May Allah bless you with blessings and mercy... Ameen!

To All:

Just a thought insha-allah. Let us try to stop the compliments. nb. I just want to make it clear that I am not trying to seek any attention here!!! Let us not break our brothers/sisters back (from an authentic hadeeth (paraphrased ofcourse)... but don't have the narrator and the compiler memorized - sorry!).

If I have said anything that has offended anyone here, please forgive me insha-Allah. My intention was not to offend.

Fe amanillah

Wassalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu


Your sister in Islam!

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now and again

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 10:56 am
Stranger- I know exactly what you mean about stopping the compliments!. I agree with you a 100%.

Ghettogirl- I really was starting to get disappointed at you and Lady Jane..but I think one of the hardest thing for human beings to do is apologize, and I'm glad you admitted your mistake and moved on.

Lady Jane- I'm sure ghettogirl was just joking when making her initial statement..I jusr laughed when I read it. But now let's all just kiss and make up?..pls?

Tlg- lol...I have to admit that the word TOY did seem a little weird, and when I prayed for you later that night..I almost giggled when I heard myself say outloud "allah will you pls pls pls grant tlg her TOY if it is in her best interest oo khar ugu jirto..lol.excuse my praying in two languages..but that's what you get when you are initially somali but grew up somewhere else..with no arabic around.

Common- I would very much appreciate your prayer.

Nur- what a great idea!!!!..I will try it!!!!, my heart already skips a beat (if I may borrow that comment from common)just thinking about. And since I think enough compliments have been said in this folder..I will close my mouth shut!!!!.

To all- I just wish I knew you guys in real life!!!!!(i mean I wish you guys were physically present in my life!!!).

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Anonymous

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 11:28 am
"A LUCKY MISHAP"

Billions of years ago, this universe evolved out of a violent explosion of some primordial mass, postulates the physicists of our era. An advanced research in this field explains that a micro second or so after the explosion there happened an unexpected remnant of surplus particles. This unforeseen emergence of one or more extra particles caused the imbalance of matter and antimatter. That accident prevented our universe from recollapsing and it kept on spreading out and expanding. Today, we know this powerful explosion as - Big Bang.

Below are excerpts from Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe, 1998 edition:

The Big Bang model is a theory about the origin of the universe. First proposed in the 1920s, it states that the universe emerged in a cataclysmic explosion from an infinitesimal point about 15 billion years ago. From the extremely dense concentration of energy at the beginning came all the energy, matter, space, and time in the universe. Eventually the millions of galaxies and their components were formed.
In the February 8, 1999 issue of the magazine ‘New Scientist’ (www.newscientist.com), appeared an interesting article entitled ‘The Lopsided Universe’. The subtitle read: "After the big bang, all matter should have been annihilated by anti matter. Luckily for us, a smidgen was left over." Briefly, the article conveys that if the total count of matter and antimatter had tallied perfectly, there would have been bursts of pure light. The universe would have been filled with light instead of trillions of stars, planets and gas.
Ken Peach of the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire says;

Naively, one would expect antimatter to be exactly the opposite of matter in all respects, including the early Universe... but a preference for matter must have arisen a fraction of second after the big bang. It only needed to be a tiny imbalance, with as little as one extra particle of matter surviving out of every billion created in the primordial inferno.
The magazine's reporter, Robert Irion, has comprehensively surveyed the on going race by physicists to find out why this "preference" or what triggered the imbalance? Until scientifically proven, the physicists will have to be contended with the label "A Lucky Mishap" for this benevolent imbalance. The term "Mishap" suggests that the unerring Mother Nature had erred. The Qur'an indicates that the explosion and the expansion were no errors. So, what are they?
THE ART OF COMMUNICATING

Before we read the actual wordings of the revealed text it is essential to know the unique style of the Almighty for describing such events of the nature. The revealed description is in a simple term. A term that was easily understood fourteen centuries ago, plainly realized today and will be clearly recognized millenniums later. The author of the Qur'an - the Supreme Intelligence of Creativity and Order, has repeatedly claimed that His Revelations cannot be imitated. There are several reasons put forward by the scholars for it. One of the obvious and apparent reason being its language and style of communicating. The under mentioned statement, reproduced from the synopsis to 'THE KORAN Interpreted' published by the Oxford University Press under their series 'The World's Classics', endorses that. The statement reads:

The Koran is a book apart, not only as Holy Scripture for Muslims throughout the world, but as supreme classic of Arabic literature..
It is not uncommon to find a verse from the Qur'an that would precisely convey what it would take a proficient writer several paragraphs to communicate. In many instances, each line of the Message would end with a rhyme qualifying it as a classic composition. Difficult to communicate topics are propounded in the nobel nutshells. Brevity with an unceasing explicitness are the key ingredients of the Creator's handy work. Ellipsis are no errors but amazing accomplishments to be admired. They preserve the Message making them subjective and convincing for yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Following the defeat of Confederate forces by the Union armies in 1863, President Abraham Lincoln delivered an unforgettable brief eulogy. This epigrammatic address is regarded as one of the noblest speeches in human history. Lincoln was not the main speaker for the occasion. Edward Everett, a noted orator, was the chief speaker. The orator gave his best oratory and kept the audience spell bound for nearly two hours. Thereafter Lincoln was invited "to make a few appropriate remarks." Reading from a slip of paper Lincoln spoke for less than three minutes. "Government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth" is one of the memorable passage from this famous "Gettysburg Address". The noted orator who spoke for two hours wrote to Lincoln: "I should be glad if I could flatter myself that I came as near the central idea of the occasion in two hours as you did in two minutes."


"WE CLOVE THEM ASUNDER"

The Creation Science happens to be one of the many aptly defined complex subjects in the Qur'an. The Creator precisely and aptly tells us below how He Created this Universe. He does in just one sentence!

There is only one recognized text of the Qur'an in Arabic. However, there are several translated texts and interpretations of the Glorious Qur'an in English. Many of the recent ones are done by Muslim scholars while the earlier published versions were done by non Muslim scholars. To avoid any undue criticism on the issues of the piety and the fidelity of the translated texts, and also to have an opportunity of making a comprehensive comparison between the various texts, three different translations are used. The first two are by well known non Muslim scholars.

(1) Translation by Reverned J. M. Rodwell done in 1909.
Rev. Rodwell is one of the early critics of the Holy Book.

(2) The translation done by professor Arthur J. Arberry in 1964.
Arberry's work is a scholarly "literal" translation.

(3) The translation with commentaries done by Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
Since 1938 it is one of the most circulated English translations done
by a Muslim scholar.

At the end of these three translations appears the Transliteration of the verse in Arabic.

Do not the infidels see that the heavens and the earth were both a solid mass, and that we clave them asunder, and that by means of water we give life everything? Will they not then believe? Translation by Reverend J. M. Rodwell
Have not the unbelievers then beheld that the heavens and the earth were a mass all sewn up, and then We unstitched them and of water fashioned every living thing? Will they not believe? Translation by Arthur J. Arberry

Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of Creation) before We clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali

Transliteration: a- wa- lam yara 'alladhena kafaro
'anna as- samaawaat wa- al- 'ard. kaanataa ratq(an) fa- fataqnaa -humaa wa- jacalnaa min al- maa' kull
shay' h.ayy 'a- fa- laa yu'minon (Qur'an 21: 30)


Comment:
1. The word "heavens" (plural) means; the whole vault of the sky with its myriad stars, etc.

2. The word "asunder" is from the Old English. It means to break apart or to split into several parts or pieces, in separate directions or positions.

3. The word "cleave" means to divide by a heavy blow, as with an axe or a cleaver.

4. The analogy of "cleaving them asunder" conveys the meaning of Galaxies flying away in all directions from the center of the action, alike the soft wood splinters flying away when a heavy blow of axe delivered by a fire wood cutter.

The wood splinters that fly away at a great speed upon the impact gradually start loosing their speed. The galaxies of our universe are behaving in the like manner, in relationship to their distances from the center of action. The ensuing chapter deals with the so called "Doppler effect" upon these expanding galaxies and the Qur'an.

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Anonymous

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 11:32 am
UNIVERSE KEEPS ON PULSATING

THE BIG CRUNCH

It was only seventy years ago that man discovered with certainty, with the aid of a Hubble telescope, that the universe has been expanding. Surprisingly, from the verses of a book compiled and distributed fourteen centuries ago, Muslims learn that this universe has been going through the cycles of 'Expanding and Contracting' and the period of pulsation is predetermined by Allah - the Sustainer of the universe. A century ago, such a strange hypothesis of an Oscillating Universe could only have come from a drunker rocking backwards and forwards on his bar tool.

The all-knowing Creator would certainly not send any Revelation, especially concerning His own Creation, that could at a later date fall apart when mankind would become capable of making observations from outer space with sophisticated digital devices. By the same token, if the all-knowing Creator had indeed Revealed to Muhammad what was totally unknown to his contemporaries and was to remain unknown for the next thirteen centuries to the dedicated and learned star gazers of this world, does it prove something? Could this be the "Signature of God" notarizing His Holy Writ?

Before we read the actual text of the Holy Writ, let us examine what the physicists of our era have discovered. If one was to present a most recent "refined" research done by a respectable physicist, someone may counter the findings with an earlier study done by another known scientist. On this occasion, in order to avoid doubts and unessential debates, recourse is made to definitions contained in the recent edition of a reputable encyclopedia.

Below is an excerpt from the Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe, 1998 edition:

Big bang theory, a general theory held by many astronomers that the universe may have originated about 12 to 15 billion years ago as the result of a violent explosion of some primordial mass; since then the universe has been expanding and evolving; a refinement of the theory states that the universe pulsates, expanding and contracting every 80 billion years.
Comment: The above mentioned "refinement of the theory", puts to rest the earlier theory that the universe will continue to expand infinitely. The refined theory advocates that at the anticipated time the universe will stop expanding and begin to contract. Eventually, a situation termed the "Big Crunch" (a reversal of the "Big Bang":O would occur.
THE REVEALED TRUTH

Read and visualize, how beautifully the revealed verses explain this "refined" scientific theory of repeated Expansions and Contractions, in everyday terms, that could be easily understood by lay people using the vocabulary of the sixth century.

On that day we will roll up the heaven as one rolleth up written scrolls. As we made the first creation, so will we bring it forth again. This promise bindeth us; verily, we will perform it. Translation by Reverend J. M. Rodwell
On the day when We shall roll up heaven as a scroll is rolled for the writings; as We originated the first creation, so We shall bring it back again - a promise binding on Us; so We shall do." Translation by Arthur J. Arberry
The Day that we roll up the heavens like a scroll rolled up for books (completed) even as We produced the first Creation so shall We produce a new one: a promise We have undertaken: truly shall We fulfill it.
Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali
Transliteration: yawm nat.we as- samaa' ka- t.ayy as-
sijill li- al- kutub ka-maa bada'naa 'awwal khalq nuced -hu wacd(an) calay -naa 'in(na) -naa kunnaa faacilen
(Qur'an 21: 104)


Are We wearied out with the first creation? Yet are they in doubt with regard to a new creation!
Translation by Reverend J. M. Rodwell
What, were We wearied by the first creation? No indeed; but they are in uncertainty as to the new creation.
Translation by Arthur J. Arberry

Were We then weary with the first Creation that they should be in confused doubt about a new Creation?
Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali
Transliteration: 'a- fa- cayenaa bi- al- khalq al- 'awwal
bal hum fe labs min khalq jaded (Qur'an 50: 15)

Comment: The Pagan Arabs of the revelation era were familiar with the adoration of the written Holy Scrolls by their Jewish neighbours. It was a familiar site in a Jewish home or tent. A scribe would select a scroll of a particular "Book", very slowly unroll it and when finished he would meticulously roll it back. The process could be repeated day in and day out. What better analogy could there be for the repeated expansions and the contractions of our universe, in an era of total ignorance and naiveté!
We have not created the Heavens and the Earth and all that is between them otherwise than in truth and for a settled term. But they who believe not, turn away from their warning. Translation by Reverend J. M. Rodwell
We have not created the heavens and the earth, and what between them is, save with the truth and a stated term; but the unbelievers are turning away from that they were warned of. Translation by Arthur J. Arberry
We created not the heavens and the earth and all between them but for just ends, and for a term appointed: But those who reject Faith turn away from that whereof they are warned. Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali
Transliteration: maa khalaqnaa as- samaawaat wa- al- 'ard. wa- maa bayna -humaa 'illaa bi- al- h.aqq wa- 'ajal musamma(n) wa- 'alladhena kafaro can maa undhiro mucrid.on (Qur'an 46: 3)

Comment: Today contemporary science tells us that the universe (all that is between the heavens and the earth) has it's existence for "a term appointed". The scientifically calculated time frame for one such oscillation is 80 billion years. Since the scientists have been able to work out the time frame gives credence to the idea that only is the process a tangible event but that there is a distinct possibility of measuring such an interval. The presented computation could be erroneous but if the theory itself is not, then that proves the point; the life of this universe has been "pre-determined". Allah who declared this centuries ago alone knows the veracity of this figure!

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Anonymous

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 11:33 am
WHO IS UPHOLDING THE GLOBE?


MYTHOLOGY AND SCIENCE

Within the books of myths and fables published from the different parts of the world and in various languages there are dozens of mysterious characters upholding our Mother Earth, from time immemorial. These books do not tell us if these mighty personalities have been taking their turns at this perpetual mammoth task. However, we do learn from some of these legends that if one of the superhuman personalities was to sneeze, we the inhabitants of this earth would have a serious catastrophe called the earthquake, so believed some of our early ancestors. One can now say that these mighty celebrities were no match for this immortal Mother of ours. One by one they have slipped away into perpetual stupor. Only their images are left behind for us to peek into our past and reflect how imaginative the philosophers, writers and artists were of the era of magic and mythologies, who created them.

The days (and also the nights) of bizarre myths and obscure fables are long gone. We are presently living in the age of science. A question may be asked; Today, is there something scientific upholding the load of our continents? The answer is; Yes, they are called the Cratons. Having never before heard that name, an inquisitive mind may be tempted to ask; Are these the characters from some twentieth century science fiction movie or a story book? No, the Cratons are the tangible things. The modern geologists have discovered them. If you were to look for the descriptions of these corporeal geographical materials in your daily usage English dictionary or one volume encyclopedia, probably your search may end up without an answer. It is one of those discoveries whose knowledge has been acquired not long ago. While I was doing the "spelling-check" of this particular text on my computer, the program recommended that I should replace the word "cratons" with "cartons". I suggested my computer to "Learn" this word.

THE CRATONS...

Below are excerpts from Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe, 1999 edition:

"The most stable subdivision of continents is that of cratons. These old parts of continents have not withstood pronounced structural deformation since Precambrian time, which ended about 570 million years ago. Composed of ancient crystalline rocks that extend far downward, these so-called Archean basement rocks seem to be the stuff of which continents are chiefly made. Cratons, which occupy the greater part of every continent, have subdued topographies and lie close to sea level. Sometimes referred to as the nucleus of a continent, they date variously from about 200 million years back to 3.9 billion years. The shield areas provide a strong but not completely rigid foundation and are susceptible to broad wavelike warping. They are mostly free from modern volcanic and earthquake activity. Most shields are deeply eroded roots of ancient mountain belts. Some of the larger shield areas include the Canadian Shield of North America; the Guianan, Amazonian, and Platian shields of South America; the Baltic and Angara shields of Eurasia; the Ethiopian Shield of Africa; and the Indian and Australian shields." (End of the excerpts).
Explanation: Briefly, the upper subdivisions of our continents upon which we reside are not as firm and stable as their counterparts below. The lower subdivisions called Cratons are composed of hard crystalline rocks that are pushed downward. These nuclei of the continents act as their rigid foundations. Yet, they are not totally rigid that would not permit the needed slackness during the volcanic activities. If one was to look at the shape of these gigantic Cratons they look like the shape of greatly enlarged "tent pegs or tent stakes". Analogically speaking, the purpose of these Cratons is very similar to the tent stakes that are firmly hammered into the ground by a tent pitcher, to uphold his tent from being blown away by the gusting winds. As seen in the earlier chapters, the Allknowing Author of the Quranic verses has been using simple easy to understand analogies from our daily lives to explain the complex scientific discoveries that were yet to be uncovered. The data and elucidation thereof was to come to the later generations.

Nay they charge with falsehood that whose knowledge they cannot compass even before the elucidation thereof hath reached them... Holy Qur'an 10: 39
It is recorded that the some of the famous early commentators of the Qur'an (e.g. Tabari of the tenth centry), used to acknowledge that it was not possible to comprehend true interprtations of some of the verses of the Qur'an and hence better to maintain the silence. To be honest, only after I read about the factual structures and the actual purposes of the Cratons, I stopped wondering what the true Message was behind the following verses of the Qur'an.
TENT PEGS...

And we set mountains on the earth lest it should move with them... Translation by Reverend J. M. Rodwell
And We set in the earth firm mountains lest it should shake with them... Translation by Arthur J. Arberry

And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm lest it should shake with them...
Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali

Transliteration: wa- jacalnaa fe al- 'ard. rawaasiya 'an
tamed bi- -him Qur'an 21: 31

Have we not made the Earth a couch?
And the mountains its tent-stakes?
Translation by Reverend J. M. Rodwell

Have We not made the earth as a cradle,
and the mountains as pegs?
Translation by Arthur J. Arberry
Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse
and the mountains as pegs?
Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali

Transliteration: 'a- lam najcal al- 'ard. mihaad(an) wa- al- jibaal awtaad(an) Qur'an 78: 6 and 7

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now and again

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 06:25 pm
Tlg- could you please tell me what is exactly is hijaab??..what it consists of??..must it be a jalbaab?? (the somali kind?)..shuko???khimaar??..shaati iyo goono??..canbuur??. Cause I've heard wearing a goono and shaati with a khimaar is not all that..is it true??..

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TLG

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 07:54 pm
Asalaamu alaikum,

Now and Again, I created a folder entitled "what is hijaab" and posted some material on hijab there. I hope it helps. Sis, people say a lot of things. Don't go by what people say. Make sure people can back up whatever they tell u with some sort of proof. I have included a few websites in that folder for your reference please visit them when u get a chance. May Allah make things easy for you walalo. There is saying i'm note sure if it is a hadith, that says whoever seeks knowledge, Allah makes the path to paradise easy for them. So insha Allah we should all try and acquire as much Islaamic knowledge as we can. And act on that knowledge ( and this is more for me than anyone else)

Ghettogirl, masha Allah sis. That was such a wise decission you made. May Allah give you patience. Much love from moi too :)

Muslim, ghettogirl and TLG are not only from the same family, bu also are monozygotic twins and JB is there uncle. Happy? :( :(

To all the rest of the adorable tribe, much love. May Allah bless you all and keep u steadfast in your deen.

salaam.

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Lady Jane

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 10:59 am
Asalamu caleykum wa raxmatullahi wa barakatu!

To nowandagain:

Firstly,please excuse my not being prompt in reply.Had I known that events had taken such an unexpected turn in my absence,I would have invested all of my efforts into resolving this matter with the utmost speed.Do forgive me.

I believe that I must apologize for dragging such gross and undue commentary to your page.I'm truly saddened by the turn of events.I never meant to start a quarrel with anyone; ESPECIALLY on a page such as this...a page I have discovered such genuine fellowship upon...fellowship that I have grown so helplessly fond of.

I am grieved that my actions have caused you much disappointment.You must understand that as TLG cleverly guessed earlier...I was merely being playful.Perhaps my words failed to convey the humour which my heart intended that they may be received in.For that I am genuinely sorry.I am of the hope that my words will offer you some consolation...if not then know that it is my poor choice in words and not that Her Ladyship's intentions are lacking in quality or authenticity.

You said that you were disappointed in me!!! Oh please,don't be disappointed..just not yet.I have soooooo much more POTENTIAL.Her Ladyship kindly requests that she at least be given leave to GROVEL in her native tongue Somali...lest that may change your mind.

Abaayo macaaney,iga raali noqo.Runti aad iyo aad ayaan uga xumaadey heerka arintaan ay gaartey.Kalmadaheyga kaftan kaliya ayaan uniyeestey inlooqaato! Cay ama aflagaado midna ulamajeedin! Teeda kale waxaan isku dayaayaa inaan halkaan ilaa gobolkaad dhagantahay inaan usoo guurguurto si aad ii cafisid,Ilaahay hadu idmo inaan garka iyo jilbahay aan ku qabsado.Laakiin hadi aan kari waayo walaaley,xumaan ha iiga qaadanin.Xaal celin aniga ayaa ku sinaya.Waxaad iga balan qaada inaad ii ogalaatid fursad aan carada aan kaa keenay aan ku baabiiyo.Taas waxaa ii dheer rajada weyn aan ka qabo fahmad inaad uyeelatid somaaliga cusub ee Lady Jane ay lasoo banaan baxdey!!..lol!

To TLG:

How well you know me!I believe it is only you that actually comprehends my apparently "bizaare" sense of humour.Perhaps I should attach a clarification at the end of each humourous remark.Thank you for the advice.It's only natural to think of and bear in mind the initial intention for the creation of this folder.You need only say it once and I shall do it right away.My sis, jazakallah khayran.

PS,sister you can't even begin to imagine all the filthy thoughts my mind entertained as to what may be the possible TOY that you wanted so much to get your hands upon!May Allah forgive and help those of us who have their minds locked up in a gutter whose key is nowhere to be found!..lol!

I still prayed nevertheless..and as nowandagain stated in both languages!!

To Ghettogirl:

Okay,first I must kiss you.I know you don't know me and I don't know you and there's that whole issue on giving everyone their 3ft of personal space;however,I have been directed by nowandagain whom I fear to displease again to "kiss and make up" with you and there isn't much room for disobedience...so what do you say? Smooch,smooch,smooch,smooch,smooch,smooch,smooch..

As taken as you are with me Ghettogirl after all that kissing I think that ought to suffice.I know,I know I'm absolutely irresistable but this is obscene.We should STOP!..lol!

Seriously though,my sister,I hardly know you.I would not even attempt to insult you.I was just very serious in my humour.I was of the hope that it would make you laugh..as your own remark caused me to laugh.Ah,these are indeed the drawbacks of sitting in front of a computer and trying so diligently to communicate your thoughts with only the hope that they will be recieved in good faith.

It would be such a waste if you took my comments to mean anything other than a strangely assembled joke!! My dear you have nothing to apologize for.I think the shortcoming was on my part.Instead of trying to ruthlessly tease you and arouse your interest such that you would retaliate with an equally screwed up joke...I could have just added "LOL" at the end of my remarks.That way I could have spared us all! About that superiority complex...another thing intended to be humourous and not taken at actual face value.Perhaps you can advise me as to how I may be more efficient and of course prudent since I seem to be doing so well in that department...LOL!! You see I think I'm getting the hang of it already.Btw,May Allah give you xasanaat for the Quranic verses that you so carefully hand picked in the hopes that may guide a truly misguided sister.I am indebted just for those few ayaas that you sought out for yours truly.Her Ladyship is pleased!!

To BroIslam:

Thank you sooooooo much for the clarification.It helped clarify a deeply confusing situation.Her Ladyship requests that you postpone or perhaps reconsider reprimanding your sister just yet...at least for the sake of Her Ladyship.

So you're from Toronto eh? It honestly baffles me how you people survive the winters up there.My two year stay in Ottawa seemed all too lengthy...thank God I only had one depressing winter to endure!! Oh yeah,you can proof-read my not so flawless Somali up there.That ought to make you laugh!! Her Ladyship is diligently working on improving her writing skills in Somali.It's proving to be a great challenge...especially the whole read and understand simultaneously thing...come on,even nuclear science has a lower degree of difficulty than that!!

Hence,the reason for Her Ladyship's popular choice to stick to English.Btw,I thank God I'm not English...that way as a foreigner,I get to constantly have the upperhand with these Americans who insist that what they speak is English.Ahhh,the joys of being able to reek havok and cause embarrassment by simple acquiring fluency in another person's native tongue!! To answer your question though...I love English. I simply adore Old English,hence my mission to revive it and then there's that minor detail of speaking the language ever since I could talk..lol!More on the details of Her Ladyship's infatuation with English....Later!

To everyone else:

Her Ladyship requests that you find it in your hearts to forgive her.

Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all!

Lady Jane.

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GhettoGirl

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 11:10 am
Lady Jane,enough with the smooching lol. I'm glad we put our difference's aside.At time's I get carried away with my rudenss that I become completely unaware of my actions. Anyway i'm btw classes right now so I don't really have much to say. Here's my email if you want to keep in touch
violator126@hotmail.com. I know the name sound's a bit violent but that's what I was feeling at the time of choosing the name.

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Fear Allah

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 11:59 am
Assalamu Alaikum. I just thought that some of you may like this poem. May we all benefit from it, Insha Allah.
_________________
Emma is a lawyer
And so is Aisha too
Colleagues going into court
At circa half past two

Its 1 O'clock right now
They grab a bite before the trial
They chat about this and that
Conversing with a smile

Aisha is in full hijab
With a loose all over suit
Emma's in her business wear
With accessories taboot

Emma's really quite bemused
At Aisha's godly ways
She looks Aisha in the eyes
And very firmly says

You're a smart girl Aisha
Why do you wear that across your hair?
Subjugated by "man"-kind
An object of despair

Take it off my sister
Let your banner be unfurled
Don't blindly follow all around
DECLARE YOUR FREEDOM TO THE WORLD

Aisha is amazed
But not the least bit shy
She bravely puts her milk shake down
And gives Emma the reply

My dear sister Emma,
Why do you dress the way you do?
The skirt you're wearing round your waist,
Is it really you?

Now that we've sat down,
I see you tug it across your thighs,
Do you feel ashamed?
Aware of prying eyes?

I see the way you're sitting,
Both legs joined at the knees,
Who forces you to sit like that?
Do you feel at ease?

I'll tell you who obliges you,
To dress the way you do,
Gucci, Klein and St. Laurent,
All have designs on you!

In the main, its men my friend,
Who dictate the whims of fashion,
Generating all the garb,
To incite the basest passion

"Sex Sells" there is no doubt,
But who buys with such great haste,
The answer is the likes of you,
Because they want to be embraced......

They want to be accepted,
On a level playing field
Sure, with brain and intellect
But with body parts revealed

Intelligence and reason
Are useful by and by
But if you want to make a mark
Stay appealing to the eye

You claim your skirt is office like
A business dress of sorts
Would we not laugh at Tony Blair
If he turned up in shorts?

His could be the poshest pants
Pinstripe from Saville Rowe
But walking round like that my friend
He'd really have to go

Why do you douse yourself with creams
To make your skin so milky?
Why do rip off all your hair
To keep your body silky?

A simple shower's all you need
To stay respectable and clean
The time and money that you spend
Is really quite obscene

Why do you wake up at dawn,
To apply a firm foundation,
Topped with make up and the like,
In one chaotic combination?

And if you should have to leave the house
Devoid of this routine
Why do you feel so insecure
That you should not be seen?

Be free my sister Emma
Escape from your deep mire
Don hijab today my friend
And all Islam's attire

Avoid all those sickly stares
Or whistles from afar
Walk down the street with dignity
Take pride in who you are

Strength lies in anonymity
Be a shadow in the crowd
Until you speak and interact
When your voice will carry loud

You're a smart girl Emma
Wear this across your hair
Don't be subjugated by "man"-kind
An object of despair

To use your very words my friend
Let your banner be unfurled
Don't blindly follow all around
DECLARE YOUR FREEDOM TO THE WORLD

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now and again

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 01:56 pm
Fear allah - what a beautiful poem!!!..it's very nice indeed. Especially to someone like me who has a hard time understanding the hijaab at my weak moments!!..really beautiful!!!..jazaakallaahu khayr for sharing it with us!!.

Lady Jane- oh wouldn't it be beautiful to know you for real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, your somali just kills me!!lol..no need to crawl and beg though, and enough with that kissing..for you are forgiven my dear lady!!..how could anyone be mad at you?? especially with that old english accent!!!!. I'm glad you have a passion like that though..I, on the other hand have a very hard time reading old english and am known to throw a book to the bottom of the shelf if I even sense it!!!.

Tlg- again,love, your hijaab topic was wonderful..jazaakallaahu khayr. I have a request of you and lady jane..can you guys pls e-mail me??..i would e-mail you guys but I don't know if you would leave your e-mail in a public forums like this..I will throw caution to the wind..plssssssssssssss..I want to know you guys personally (well however personal a computer can get)plssssssssss?????????..plsssssssss???????sort of like pen-pals???.
well here goes: ikraam2000@yahoo.com.
now and again

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now and again

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 02:04 pm
Fear allah- i thought I'd share this poem with you guys.

I try,
Deep in my heart
where my soul rests
where all my emotions
strike deep,
When you get through the wall,
when you get through the fog
and the insolence,
In this place,
you will find a spark
trying to burst into a fire
to warm my soul,
and get through the cold
until every cell in my body
cries for joy,
until every fiber in my being,
quivers with ecstasy!
"Allah, this spark
burns for you, yet it is hard to keep it alive,
even harder to make it a great fire,
Allah look down on me with mercy,
stretch out your guiding hand,
for the warmth of your nearness,
will truly burst my spark into a great fire,
kept alive with my faith in you
allah! I beg you!"
I try.

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Fear Allah

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 02:11 pm
Assalamu Alaikum. May this reach you in the best of health, Insha Allah.

Now and again - That was a very beautiful poem, Masha Allah. Jazzakallahu Khairan for sharing it with us.

I opened a new subtitle on the Islam:Current area. It's called "The Beauty Of The Remembrance Of Allah(swt)". Would you guys all please go and check it out so that we can all benefit from it being there? You might like it. Jazzakallahu khairan.

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Nur

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 08:13 pm
Jazaakallah Sister Now and Again for the poem

That spark...........the way to develop it to a big fireplace is thru continuous thikir

Like a cold morning, keep cranking untill your engine is in motion and you are going places.

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TLG

Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 05:22 pm
Asalaamu alaikum all,
Guys, jazaakumullahu khairan. You are all adorable.

Fear Allah thanks sis/bro for the poem.

Lady Jane and ghettogirl, sniff sniff, you guys are sooo cute :-)

Now and Again, as always, you've touched my heart again- with the poem. Walaalo, may Allah make things easy for you and increase you in goodness.

Lady Jane, how rude of this adorable tribe (except for broIslam) to ignore your valid question of their whereabouts!
Ok, how about I allow myself to give you the 411 on all of them.

TLG: Toronto Canada. Goes to School in Steel City, Ontario.

Idea: Somewhere in the USA. Did I tell u her mind has been messed up by six years of economics?

Now and Again: Used to live in Virginia but is now in MN

Nur: Our dear brother, who introduced the love of Allah to this site seems to be in Virginia. I'm not sure though. But he seems to know it pretty well.

Common: Our adorable English brother is in the UK
and he is getting married soon (sorry to disappoint you sisters...lol) so pray for him, insha Allah.

New Deal: Our beloved brother used to live in Southern California.

Ghettogirl: Our beloved sister who does not like to be critized but is otherwise cool is in the US.

As for the rest, they have not been around long enough for me to know much about them. So there you go your Ladyship. Can I be knighted now? Oh wait, women don't get knighted...lol. Darn those Brits. And they say Islam oppresses women! What is the equivalence?
By the way, i'm jelous of your Somali (well, the English too, but I can live that lol... Though I hate old English...went to British boarding school as a kid. I was a troublesome kid so they thought they could straighten me, but...). So, how did your acquire such mastery of our mother tongue?
Ok, that is it. Take care all. Much love :)

PS: LadyJane and NowandAgain, you too are evil minded lol..re:the toy thing. Well, what can I say, I was never good at all that imagery/metaphor etc etc stuff. Pardon me sisters.

salaam.

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now and again

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 02:37 pm
Lol tlg- evil minded??..it's just as lady jane..our mind is stuck in the gutter..lol.
Common is getting married?????????!!!!!!!!!Congrats common..but I must say I feel betrayed..how could you desert me like that???lolllllll. No, actually I'm very happy for you..and may your new wife be very connected with her relegion and please you! And I shall pray for you two to have a beautiful, allah filled life together!!Common..I know I might be out of line being I know nothing about you so if you are displeased by my following comment..pls disregard it..and we'll all pretend like it was never said.
Well my comment is: take care of your wife (I'm sure you'll do that) and think about her dignity and respect when and if you guys are ever at odds, and pls..pls..Ha u xoog sheegan?. There I've said it! I'm not talking of previous experience or anything like that..it's just that's the way I would want to be treated when and if I get married. And more and more I see in the somali community how much disrespect is paid to the wife by her counterpart..especially out here in the west..in the big bad west...at least in somalia there would have been family all over the place..but out here it can get lonely for a girl!. common..may you swallow my advice with a pound of sugar..for I'm afraid it might be rudely stated or such..and know I mean no disrespect!!
I shall pray for you !!

nur- I know...crank up my engine everymorning huh..sometimes the engines starts sputtering in the middle of the day and might completely be broken (for lack of a better word..I know nothing about engines and such)..and it is then that it is harder to restart the engine..but I will try and try again...Jazaakallaahu khayr!!..I try to share your advice and opinions with my family..and my mom admires you..and sees alot of love for allah in your words!!..May allah keep you on the streight path and reward you with janna!!..that goes for all of you!!1

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