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ALI

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 07:18 am
WHAT IS EVERYONE'S TRIBE?IF YOUR HAWIYE OR FAQASH I HOPE YOU GUYS ROT IN HELL! YOU GUYS COME ON THE FORUM AND ACT AS IF NOTHING HAS HAPPEND. YOU FOOLS WERE THE ONE'S WHO RUINED OUR BELOVED COUNTRY!.

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GhettoGirl

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:40 am
Look what's happening to Somali people; they are dying of hunger, insulting one another and others are suffering discrimination and economic hardships in western countries and other areas.

We have tried peaceful means to resolve the problem, but with vain. I don't believe the Djibouti conference will bring peace to Somalia.
So we need new innovations to solve the problem, so that our men,women and children can lead a normal life without the barbaric actions of our warlords.

It really depresses me to see people like Ali. Aren't the hawiye or Majeertan Somalis as well or I'm I wrong.When I was younger I was naive enough as to think that Somalis were all Good,Friendly,Pious Muslims,but now when I look back I realized that I was just viewing the world through a looking glass.I was too caught up in this imaginary lifestyle that I was sheltered from facing reality.


At times I find myself asking "when is this all going to end".Over the years I've encountered with some Somali women who look at me as If I was Satan simply because of my tribe.Though I know I didn't necessarily do anything wrong I feel as If I owe the Somali people back for what my clan's men did. I'm imprisoned by guilt.Call it fate to me it's oppression. No one deserves to be living through out life feeling neglected or as if they have wronged someone for actions they were completely not in control of or aware of in that matter. Look what I'm trying to say is no one could be completely held accountable for what happend.We have to come to together and reconcile and talk about the future and what we could do about making it a Prosperous one instead of reminiscing about the past!

Anyway I hope you benefited from what I said
Take care and may Allah guide you to the right path!


Destruction
Evil
Poverty
Rivalry
Emulation
Sovereignty
Suffering
Ignorance
Oppression
No Hope!

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TLG

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:41 am
Ali, Asalaamu alaikum. I'm afraid you won't find what you are looking in this side of the forums. Most of us here are the tribe of Ahlu-Sunnah Wa Jama'a. Would u like to join our tribe? We are pretty cool group :)
salaam.

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GhettoGirl

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:43 am
I am one genuine Somali who is tired of what's happening in our motherland. We all have differences and we can solve them amicably if we follow the path of Allah. Unfortunately a few of us are inflicting pain on all of us, whether we are inside or outside the country. Look what's happening to Somali people; they are dying of hunger, insulting one another and others are suffering discrimination and economic hardships in western countries and other areas.

We have tried peaceful means to resolve the problem, but with vain. I don't believe the Djibouti conference will bring peace to Somalia.
So we need new innovations to solve the problem, so that our men,women and children can lead a normal life without the barbaric actions of our warlords.

It really depresses me to see people like Ali. Aren't the hawiye or Majeertan Somalis as well or I'm I wrong.When I was younger I was naive enough as to think that Somalis were all Good,Friendly,Pious Muslims,but now when I look back I realized that I was just viewing the world through a looking glass.I was too caught up in this imaginary lifestyle that I was sheltered from facing reality.


At times I find myself asking "when is this all going to end".Over the years I've encountered with some Somali women who look at me as If I was Satan simply because of my tribe.Though I know I didn't necessarily do anything wrong I feel as If I owe the Somali people back for what my clan's men did. I'm imprisoned by guilt.Call it fate to me it's oppression. No one deserves to be living through out life feeling neglected or as if they have wronged someone for actions they were completely not in control of or aware of in that matter. Look what I'm trying to say is no one could be completely held accountable for what happend.We have to come to together and reconcile and talk about the future and what we could do about making it a Prosperous one instead of reminiscing about the past!

Anyway I hope you benefited from what I said
Take care and may Allah guide you to the right path!


Destruction
Evil
Poverty
Rivalry
Emulation
Sovereignty
Suffering
Ignorance
Oppression
No Hope!

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TLG

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:43 am
GHetto girl, way to go sis....i'm impressed :)

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ALI

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 09:45 am
SHUT UP DAMN HAWIYE BITCH!

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JB

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 10:01 am
Ali is a devil in disguise. I strongly suggest we ignore him. He enjoys trash talk so lets not fuel his desire. Ghetto girl well said but let the reasoning wait until Ali reaches puberty

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Nur

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 09:50 pm
Ali

You see we are a group of people who believe in Allah, we do not insult people, we do not believe in tribalism, we believe that all msulims are brothers, what happened in Somalia was bad, and we do not condone it,

We hope that you use better words, you do not know her tribe, she may be your real sister that you are insulting, and even if she is other tribe, she said her tribe is Sunnah and those who follow Allah, please respect someone who seeks shelter behind Allah. Because it is dangerous to fight Allah.

I am sure that you can benefit from this forums, so please chose good words, and be a good person.

If you want to discuss What happened in Somalia from Islamic point of view, that is good, and we can discuss it.

Muslims do not use bad words, they do not insult each other,do not kill each other etc.

I hope to hear from you.

Someone who cares about you.

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MAD MAC

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 10:01 pm
Ali
What's your problem dude. The clan thing is so passe. Get over it already.

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Idea

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 03:35 am
Nur,

"I don't believe in tribalism"
Bismilaah al-rahman al-rahim..."waa jacalnakum shoucouban waa qabaa'il lii tatacarifou..."
sadaq Allah Al-caziim.

Ali,
You are a very sick brother. I pray from Allah that He cures you. No one is better than the other except for his/her Good Deed. "Iin ahsanakum cinda Allah Atqakum"---> take that to your imman and ask him to explain it to you.

TLG,
maa-shaa-allah, you are always a cool sis. Tribe of ahlu-Sunnah...maa-sha-allah.

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Idea

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 06:04 am
Nur,
I think i misunderstood you, sorry brother.

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Wondering

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 08:54 am
Ali

Get a life. this is not the place for you.

Ghetogirl,

Well, and when can you say what you jsut said? Have not you said yourself that Hawiye are the best tribe( when you dod not even know the difference btween clan and tribe). Is not hypochricy??? And please, swear to god that you are not TGL. I cannot tell tha difference and the time yoy wrote on here only in munites??? I ahve this feeling since you joined this forums there was some kind of awkwordeness. I realise anyone who uses moryan must be isolaited from the others. If I said sometingh that is not true, please forgive me. But swear that you are not the same person.

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TLG

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 09:41 am
Wondering, are u on some cheap drug??? I'll be back for you.

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Wondering

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 09:46 am
TGL

Sister I am a brother that ask you a question. I will beleave you if you swear to god that you are not Gethogirl. please do not insult me, i do not take drugs but have my suspicions on this issue. I relate this to an event that happened between two sisters which i think at least one of them was innocent and act very naivly.

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Lady Jane

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 10:25 am
Asalama caleykum wa raxmatullahi wa barakatu!

To Ali:

May I ask what in the world possessed you to post such a message?You see we are all muslims here and we wish to make the best of our visit here in the Islam forums.There is hardly any need for you to post a message reeking of such ignorance.Don't get me wrong,there is nothing wrong with asking questions and even sharing your two cents of the matter at hand...but we must be very mindful of what we say and what we do...for Allah subxanaah wa tacalah is full-knowing of ALL that we do.Nothing is hidden from HIM!!!

What was the pressing need that you just had to post such rubbish? What I am interested in knowing is, what do you think you've gained from all of this? Seriously though,you must have had a goal in mind which you wished to reach right? So did you accomplish what you were hoping to?

So you manage to infuriate a couple of people...then what? Is that somehow a sick ambition of yours? Do you think that you are somehow exempted from Allah's Wrath? Do you not fear the outcome of such foolishness? Only a real man would tremble at the very thought of committing an action which would displease Al-Dul Jalaali wal Ikraam!!!

Do you think that your actions are beautiful and worthy of praise and recognition in the sight of Allah? You see,I don't think you truly know that our Creator is the only entity worth impressing...not us human beings.Don't let Ibliis beautify pathetic and non-sensical things for you.

My brother may Allah guide you to siraatul mustaqim.And next time before you speak...THINK!

Amiin.

Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you.

Lady Jane.

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GhettoGirl

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 11:19 am
Wondering I did not once say Hawiye are the best tribe what on earth are you talking about...? And no I'm not TLAB. People in this Forum Think I have multiple Identities they've accused me of being numerous people such as Basra Tgirl Hibo Sparkle and so forth so let me just make things clear for you The answer to your question is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.Lol Secondly What do you mean Awkwardness.

ALI You need to get a life that's All I could say for now.

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JB

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 11:40 am
I know Ghetto girl and she is not TLG.
To my Knowledge One lives in the states and if I’m not mistaken the other lives in Canada. I visited Ghetto Girl the first week of January 2000 and I can testify that she is not TLG.

Ghetto girl you are probably the most misunderstood person on this forums. I suggest you change your name to misunderstood sista.

Wondering:
Bro, it is unhealthy to be suspicious of others; especially over such a trivial matter. :(

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Ice-Man

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 03:29 pm
I hardly visit this aisle . but I will comment What most of you said who claim to love Allah and his prophet "pbuh" you harass ALI And made him Filthy as he is some alien creature. is that what Islam preachs to make fun other people? when They are wrong. shouldn't you be giving him some kind of advise to teach what Islam says About tribe,(when we use in a bad way)

Ali even though you called me a "Faqash" I am sincerely Feel great sympathy After what you endured here.
Mr. Ali they had a chance to ignore you if they didn't like your post. but they choice to insult you, and call you many names,which is very sad coming from people who claim to be holly

Later

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Islam Islam

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 07:56 pm
Ali

Brother do not play to be a person from the Isaaq clan because you are not, we are a religious Islamic people, just as the people in here!!! This is an Islamic community disscussing issues of benefit to the UMMAH so you should observe, learn and act right afterwards.

You can not misrepresent reer Waqooyi by writing some trash like that, you are possessed by evil spirits brother.

You need to go to Erigabo and read the QURAAN with the SUUFIS they will lead your mind in to the right track. You could also stop by the religious community in Hargeysa i am sure they will give you plenty of lessons in quraan studies!!

Mujahidinta Chechenya ha guuleysato!!!!

Afghanistan nabad ha hesho!!!!

Somali Islam ha ku so noqdan!!!(weey ka maqanyihiin eh)

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Wondering

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 10:17 am
Ghettogirl
I asked the question TGl not you.

TGl
Please answer it wont take you a long time to do so.
JB
brother, Thanks for the answer but I do not think asking a question is any harm. if TGl is not Ghettogirl then she should answer my question just it pequed my cuerosity. You said you do not think but I think the two masseges came few minutes between each other. only 3 minutes.

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GhettoGirl

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 10:54 am
Wondering wait a minute. Just think back to what you said... You asked if me and TLG are the same person and when I glady answered your question you replied back "Ghettogirl
I asked the question TLG not you."How does that work?Aren't me and TLG suppose to be the same person?Your really confusing you've answered the question for yourself. Regardless of whether or not TLG tells you she's not me you still think I'm her and she's me do you get it now LoL.

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Idea

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 01:15 pm
Wondering,
Raali iga noqo, lakiin abowe/abayo, what is your problem? TLG is your sister...take that as it is. No need for someone to swear!

TLG,
Have you lately been practising Yoga?..lol May Allah give you patience.

Ice-Man,
lol---->No comment.

GhettoGirl,
lol

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Anonymous

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 03:16 pm
Poor TLG. I won't be supprised if she is accused of being Pragmaticgal soon!lol

Ghettogirl. looooool. You have a quick mind.

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JB

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 05:05 pm
Are you JB, or are you not JB, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of not knowing who you are?;
Or to think you’re a mad man against your better judgment,
And I can't keep asking myself this question,
who am I? OR even, am I?
tis better: to die, to sleep; Than not know!
No more; please, no more, can somebody tell me who am I.

PS: has anyone seen waldo?
TLG are you waldo?….just wondering

Let's stop the madness

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Muslim

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 07:05 am
Looooool@JB

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Qoonsade

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 07:27 am
My common sense is telling me that some people are out of touch with the reality because they are trying to ruin our place were we exchange our opinions regarding our faith. It is my genuine understanding that some of us are deliberately posting irrelevant topics that has no value and I can assure you we don,t have an interest for tribal temptations.

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GhettoGirl

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 10:43 am
JB shut up you don't know how stupid you sound at this point loooooooool. I as well I'm tired of people asking the same damn questions over and over again "who the dogs out" for example LoL Why do you care who let the dogs out?does it really matter who let them out?Would it make you feel any better if I told you I let them out?Well Then I let the damn dogs out you happy just stop asking looooool. Do you get the moral of this story ?


P.S. Where in the world is Carmen San Diego??

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TLG

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 12:31 pm
Asalaamu alaikum...

Wondering, I swear by Allah i'm not ghetto girl. And FYI, I've never used another username. Now, I think u owe the sister(Ghettogirl) an apology. I'm sure she was not part of whatever "incident" you claim to have happened btn two sisters.

Idea, Yoga??? No. I haven't approached Yoga. But you know what? When you are busy all day playing "hide and seek" with profs for the simple reason you need those ever so precious reference letters. Then you wait in line at the regisrar's office for 50+ min only to be told at the counter, "sorry your transcripts are not ready yet, check back later, we are very busy", eventhough you met "the give it 3-5 working days" thing. YOu become truly patient. To the extent whatever is said on Somalinet becomes nothing more than a minor irritant.


Ghettogirl, lol...you are one crazy girl. Very smart though masha Allah. I wouldn't have noticed that contradictory statement made by wondering.

JB, lol...you resorted to waldo and Hamlet...lol. amazing the kinda things this place makes one say.

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JB

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 04:37 pm
Asalamu Alayakum.

I think you misunderstood me TLG.
I was employing sarcasm to prove a point.
I know your not waldo. Please accept my sincere apologies. :(

Ghettogirl:
Abtii, I thought you would find my post funny. I come to your rescue and this is the thanks i get! way inno thahay! Is that how you write it?

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GhettoGirl

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 05:02 pm
JB I'm sorry abtii I didn't mean to disrespect you my sincerest apologizes :) ....Having said that I did find your post some what interesting to an extent but I'm not really into that metaphorical Shakespearean crap!whatever that means LoL(pardon my language it's not my fault I'm a victim of culture shock) I guess it's because I'm not intellutcal.By the way what does "inno thahay" mean? you've got me stuck!Usually I'm good at decoding Egyptian hieroglyphics LoL that's got to be either country grammar (qaxooti grammar) or just an attempt to make sense in Somali.

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TLG

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 05:08 pm
Asalaamu alaikum...

JB, I didn't misunderstand your post. I continued with the sarcasm. I was just saying that to handle the situation, you employed that methodology, which was very good. My last sentence was in reference to what Wondering did. Sorry walalo if I appeared rude or something.

Ghetto girl, you should respect for your uncle...lol.

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Anonymous

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 10:01 am
Ali,

you got a lot of deserved answers from the brotyhers and sisters on this forums. however, Iceman made agood reminder that we should be nice to you and point out your ignorant. but we are humans.

About your question, though, no-one answered to you, I would be the first one to do so. I am a mixed of both from the north and south but was born in Mugadishu. I love all my bothers and sisters on this forums and those all over the world. I know very little about my clan but have no problem of mentioning it when someone asks me. I swear I never hated anybody for that matter. And I think, the only salvation for Somalia and for the Somalis is Islam. My sisters and cousins are married to both Hawiye and Darrot. My brother in-laws are like my own brothers they are very loved by our extended family. they are very educated, well-mannered and religious. I would anytime marry any brother that who is religious no matter whose clan.

Wondering ,

I think, you need to think twice before posting anything here. Suspicion is jahilyah and TGL is a good sister.


Ghettogirl,

I think, you should be consistent, I know what the brother talking about. You said something like that.
But cannot rememeber. I amnot Daaroot though, I am offten beaing mistaken of beaing it. My mother is and I do not have any problem with that.

Salaams

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Wondering

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 06:36 am
TGL

you are not a getho girl I kknow. but do not change the spelling

are you not Gheto girl.? with the capital. Khaf rabak, you are playing with the name but Allah swt sees you.

I am not asking anyone elese to interfer. and I am not gonna stop till you say so.

jb,

Gheto girl is in Canada and TGL describes througth out her writinmgs Canada and what happens.

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Anonymous

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 08:41 am
Wondering

Subhanallah! what is your problem? Leave the sister alone. Fear Allah brother/sister!

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Miskiin-Aqiyaar-Macruuf-Waryaa

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 01:54 pm
Salama...

Hadiis qabiilkeyga aas rabtid, maka fiicnaan laheenoo inaa kuu abtirsado.

Hadeey tahey, "Haa!" Haye hee hakuu abtirsado.
____________________

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar-Waryaa:

Maxamed
Ciise
Yaxya
Sakariya
Saalax
Suleymaan
Da'uud
Luut
Haroon
Muuse
Imran
Idiris
Ilyees
Ilayah
Xuud
Yusuf
Yacquub
Isxaaq
Cismaciil
Ibraahim
Nuux
Yuunis
Ayuub
Aaden
Muslim
Islaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
_______________________

Nabadeey!!

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sis

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 05:25 pm
Ali , What Qabil Am i bro?
Muslim!

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Anonymous

Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 02:05 am
He just asked a question,
answer it or leave it!

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Anonymous

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 05:12 am
TEST

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Misstruth

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 05:33 am
Ali

Would you Belive this?

My Family is like this

Izaaq+Darood+Hawiye+Dir+Egyptian+Omanis+Yamanis+English+German+Netherlands+Americans...ANd wallaahay I am telling you the Truth. so what Qabil would u call my family?

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FG.

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 04:44 pm
Assalaamu caleykum.

Let us face it, as long as we have somali tribes whom are denied of their rights of respect, And we named them names Allah didn't give them, we shouldn't be proud of our TRIBES. We should consider our selves one tribe or find out the solution of that proplem. We shouldn't be happy to claim our tribes while we know a somali brother/sister who has nothing to claim because of shame we put on them exists. They might also be reading this forums and want be part of us. So, if we discuss this issues, what do you think goes in their mind?. Let us respect the feelings of people and never discuss our ills.

Brother ANON.

I liked your presentation big time.

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Daadir Mamow

Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 05:42 am
My qabil is shiqlay buliyey jilanjiliye. Any question?

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MR. MUR

Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 08:49 am
I'm murursade.

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