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     | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 08:53 pm I thought I would open a new folder dedicated to reviving the Sunnah. It is very sad that a lot of people consider the sunnah of our rasool (Pbuh) to be a Bi’dah. Let me relate to you’ll an incident that occurred today at school. I was studying on the 10th floor in the library with a brother and maghrib prayers approached us. We went to a quite corner in the library to pray. The brother asked me to remove my shoes in order to pray. I informed him that its Sunnah to pray with our shoes. I spoke to him for about a minute and realized that he would not pray with me unless I took my shoes off. Needless to say I took my shoes off and prayed maghrib. My Allah accept my Salah because I was frustrated during the whole salah. I was frustrated that I was forced to take my shoes off. While it is also Sunnah to pray bare foot, it is not the norm. I intend, by opening this folder to revive neglected Sunnahs. Please feel free to add other neglected sunnahs on this page. Insha Allah, Allah will reward you with reviving a good action and Insha Allah, You will have a share in the reward of all those who practice it as a result of your efforts. Please provide references for the specific sunnah. Praying with Shoes: Narrated Aws ibn Thabit al-Ansari: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Act differently from the Jews, for they do not pray in their sandals or their shoes. ( Abu Dawud.652) Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As: I saw the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) praying both barefooted and wearing sandals. . ( Abu Dawud.653) Sometimes the Prophet would pray barefoot and sometimes while wearing shoes. This is what 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar said and he ordered people to pray with shoes on in order to differ from the Jews Abu Sa'eed reported that the Prophet removed his shoes and the people behind him did likewise. When he finished the prayer, he asked, "Why did you remove your shoes?" They said, "We saw you remove yours." He said, "Gabriel came to me and informed me that there was some filth on them. Therefore, when one of you comes to the mosque, he should turn his shoes over and examine them. If one finds any dirt on them, he should rub them against the ground and pray with them on." The hadith is related by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, al-Hakim, Ibn Hibban and Ibn Khuzaimah. The latter grades it as sahih. Dear brothers this Hadith tells us that, even if we pray with shoes that have filth on them our salah is still valid. After all the rasool did not repeat the salah! This is the fiqh in this hadith. I’m not saying to pray with filthy shoes intentionally but if we are unaware of it and then become aware, all we have to do is remove our shoes while we are in prayer. Ikhwan, Allah has made our religion easy for us. Instead of being grateful for His gift, we turn around and reject it or even forbid others to accept His gifts. This is ungrateful behaviour, Ikhwah. For our noble brothers who are concerned about impurities in the shoes, Allah has given us a way to purify our shoes. And it is simple. Abu Hurairah narrated that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "If one of you stepped in some filth, the dirt will purify his shoes." Related by Abu Dawud. . In another narration it states, "If one of you steps in some filth with his shoes on, the dirt will purify them." So, dear brothers the mere act off walking over clean earth will clean our shoes or we can just wipe them (our shoes) on the ground. Abu Sa'eed reported the Prophet, upon whom be peace, saying, "When a person comes to the mosque, he should look at his shoes. If he finds any filth on them, he should wipe them against the ground and pray in them." (Related by Ahmad and Abu Dawud.) Also, dear brother, I am not saying that we should go into our mosques and pray with our shoes. No, Our Mosques have carpets nowadays. It would cause the mosque hardship if we prayed with our shows because they will have to wash it to clean it. I’m only talking about prayers in out door spaces, public places or where shoes are normally worn (such as a library or school). Please, Let us not forbid/neglect or even worse be indifferent to the sunnah.
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 11:22 am Asalamu Alaykum Ya Akahi, What can I say Mashallah!! As Allah (swt) says in the holy quran "Say if u love Allah follow me(the prophet(s)) and he will love u and forgive you your sins..." Thank u for the reminder. I hate to admit this but I was of the people that neglected this sunnah . Inshallah I will try and practice it now jazakumallah khairan wa barakallah feek.. Ukhti fil islam Walaykum Salam
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 11:45 am I always take off my shoes when I want to perfom the salaat. I'm not leaving the sunnah if I do this. If others don't want to take off their shoes that is their business. If I take off my shoes when I stand for prayers, I'm not leaving the sunnah, am I?
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 12:47 pm JB, jazakallah brother for your input. I would like to ask you as to the relevance of this act (taking off the shes) in our present day masjids, a time when most muslims pray in carpeted masjids. Does this mean I should go into the Local Masjid and stand in the first row with my dirty shoes on. Try it and see what happens to you, the Imam himself will talk care of you. Cleanliness is a very important aspect in our deen so we have to be logical when we read hadith and try to implement it. I Ask a shaikh who learned from his shaikh, that the way I approach any new issues that i have little knowledge of. May Allah Guide us all, and make it easy for us to understand the Sunnah of his prophet (peace be upon him) the correct way.
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 01:38 pm Salaama Aleikum Brother/Sister JB may Allaah reward you efforts,reviving Sunnah of the prophet. Bro Saif Udin before you repsond I advice you to reread what our Bro/Sis wrote.
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 03:05 pm My god..... Common sense..... If you wish to pray to your creator, do you not want to remove all that is rendered impure due to the things that you stepon all day..... Listen to you selfs..... Who is actually an expert on this ahadith that you all want to quote without the presentce of a Hafis or an authority in the matter..... If there is any doubt in your mind as to which of two things that are both sunnah to choose from.... i would rather hear from an expert..... Who would face their Allah[swt] wearing shoes that just stepped on dog sh*t........ acuudu billahi minaah sheytaani rajiim
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 04:41 pm Assalaamu alaykum, JB wrote: "Also, dear brother, I am not saying that we should go into our mosques and pray with our shoes. No, Our Mosques have carpets nowadays. It would cause the mosque hardship if we prayed with our shows because they will have to wash it to clean it. I’m only talking about prayers in out door spaces, public places or where shoes are normally worn (such as a library or school). Please, Let us not forbid/neglect or even worse be indifferent to the sunnah." You guys either don't read what is written or you wanna pick a fight/arguement on purpose. Bro JB, please don't respond to some of this guys. The prophet peace be upon him adviced: "when the ignorant speaks, say peace". wassalaam.
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 06:45 pm Dear muslims Allah says " It was not befitting a muslim man or a woman, to have a choice once Allah and his prophet have ruled on an issue" Allah also said " He (the prophet) is not speaking of his ( hawa ) opinion, it is a revelation revealed to him" On issues of faith, Allah has sent a prophet to follow, Allah says " Indeed there was a good example for you to (follow) the prophet of Allah, for the one who believs in Allah and the last day" Personal opinions without the guidance of authentic Hadeeth is thus a dangerous turf to play on. JB Brother, No doubt that a lot of sunnah is dormant and not applied, the ummah is in bad shape, our people emulate the kuffaar, they dress like them, eat like them, and do everything like them. Like the non believers they love this world so much that aakhirah and striving for it is not in thier agenda. The essence of Islam is absent, although we have the facade. People are hollow inside, and few understand their mission in this life. In such a situation, anyone who wants to revive the Sunnah, should start with tawheed, introduce people to their Master, Lord, Creator, Owner, sustainer. Once they get to know Allah, they will appreciate the Sunnah of his Messenger. The Du'aat, are the heirs of the prophets and they all started their message with, Tawheed. Yusuf for example in the prison was asked to explain a dream by inmates in jail. He began by saying " O my jail inmates, Is it good to follow multiple Lords ( bosses, leaders etc.) or Allah the one the conquerer?" after he told them about the Towheed , he explained the dream in order to tie knowledge to Allah alone, the author of all knowledge. Once Towheed is firm on their hearts, The love of the Sunnah is a natural outcome. The Sunnah is the practical application of Tawheed. Without a thorough understanding of Tawheed, and inner acceptance of all revealed as a whole, (Jumlah , wa calal gheib), you will have difficult time convincing people to follow the sunnah. My advice at this stage is to focus on the essence of Islam, The love of the prophet can only be felt after Tawheed settles in the hearts. Once, one of the four imams came to a mosque and sat down to teach lesson to his students. A commoner sitting nearby told the Imam " stand up and pray" The imam used to teach that there is no prayer after asr prayer, but he stood up and prayed. His students were confused. They asked him, why did you pray and lsiten to this ignorant man? The Imam answered, " I remembered Allah's word in Quraan ( And when it is said to them bow (in prayer) , they do not bow down) and I was afraid that Allah puts me in that category." This ummah is suffering from division, the following of ahwaa, lacks the love of Allah, the preparation and desire of Jannah, they have settled in the ruins and have taken sheitan as their friend. It will be advisble to be kind and careful how to call them to Allah. Saving one soul from hell is a great accomplishment. Testing the faith of people when they are not ready, could be counterproductive. Wallaahu aclam.
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 09:34 pm Asalaamu Alaykum dear brothers/sisters. Sorry for the late response I was away at work. Bro Nur. May Allah reward you and increase you in knowledge. I really enjoy reading your posts. I also agree with you that we should start with Tauheed. My intent was not to replace the first pillar of Islam but rather to inform Muslims about a sunnah and I hoped other would in turn inform us about other neglected Sunnahs. People will accept what ever they desire to accept and reject the rest. I see no harm in informing Muslims about the sunnah. Akhil Aziz, I love your last paragraph and I cannot agree with you more. Masha Allah, May Allah increase you in knowledge Akhi. I pray that people will not refuse the sunnah on account of my delivery method. I find, Sometimes, that my writing appear harsh or cold because I try to be factual or direct. Writing in a gentle and warm manner and being factual and direct is yet to be mastered be me. Anonymous It is not obligatory to pray in shoes, akhi. No dear brother. All I’m saying is that it is the sunnah of our beloved rasool. In fact most of the time he prayed in his shoes. Also akhi, The rasool instructed us to pray in shoes as the jews do not pray in shoes. This is the rasool’s instructions akhi, not mine. So dear brother/sister we have two reasons to pray in shoes 1) we were instructed to and 2) it is a sunnah. So even, if we were not instructed to do it, the mere fact that it is a sunnah makes it worth doing. What are we to do when people forbid his sunnah and instructions?? Kamal, Brother what you say is more disturbing. Our deen is not based on common sense. The Rasool (pbuh) informed us about what is considered impure and pure. He also informed us about how to clean our clothes, our shoes and ourself. This is not a matter of common sense. Some may wish to wash their shoes in a washing machine or to wash them in bleach before they deem it clean enough to pray in. I have already stated above what the proper way to clean your shoes is (according to the Rasool). What is good enough for him should be good enough for us. I have also read what you said in other folder about Sufism. I don’t want to change this folder into a discussion on Sufism but this is one of Sufism greatest problems. They, the Sufis think, that they are more pious or more worried about cleanliness than our beloved Rasool! I’m not saying this about you akhi but Sufism in general. Please re-read the ahadith about Taharah and follow the instruction you find in them. You are on very thin ice my dear brother. Do not let shaytan fool you about acts of worship. Learn from the messenger and leave common sense behind (in matters of ibaddah). When I was studying taharah at the mosque we came across ahadith that told us the manner in which we clean a baby boys urine as opposed to cleaning a baby girls urine. Common sense tells us that we should clean them in a similar manner but the Rasool instructs us to clean them in very different manners! We take from him and we accept what he says and this is what loving Allah is all about. I have nothing further to add about this sunnah. So insha Allah I will refrain from getting into a circular debates. The sunnah is there for anyone who wants to practice. Any one who has something good to share please do share. Allah Knows best. Your brother in Islam
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 10:19 pm JB, I said if others don't want to take off their shoes that is their business, but you didn't answer my question. If I always take off my shoes when I stand for prayers, I'm not leaving the sunnah, am I? Am I sinning for taking off the shoes whenever I perform the prayers?
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 04:56 am salamu calaykum Look, there are situations that would be more appropriate for that practice of keeping your shoes on... i.e. when you are travelling you can pray in your seat and keep your shoes on. I am not argueing agains the validity of any hadith or suna! i just have in my mind... wether it is bid'a or not! that when i face my creator to offer my prayer i should make a little effort... As to sufism and sufi practices walaal i am not very familiar... but from what i know of the sufi mentality i would think that your arguement is not very sahih and your knowledge is most likely dief... most muslims avoid reading anything that is by someone in Islam that has a different perspective! If i was to guess at a sufi perspective! ^^only my guess^^ i would actually think that a sufi would not recognize such things as shoes being contaminated by anything... you see all matter is madeup of the same sub-atomic particles... and the concept of contamination is only in the eyes of someone with a small mind without knowledge of basic states of matter... Personely i shower more then is stated in any ahadith i have read and i use al lot more water then can fit in a sa'a... i use a lot of water... irrespective of wether i had a shower only an hour before or not... I would not be surprised if someone comes along and says... hey dirt that comes from our body is actual of the body so let us find a hadith to support it... allah forbide such minds... Please stop sufi bashing because there aren't any around to defend their way of life or wait till i learn a bit more then we can have a more meaningfull discussion... all i still hear are people showing their fear of the unknown... the unseen... the unheard.... the un felt.... the untasted... wakeup because it is stated that man should be aware of such things but not fear or indulge in their practices... Hey mohamed[pbuh] himself got a curse but on him!... so things like that exsist... carefull you don't offend some sufi with all your uninteligent comments. As for me being in trouble i fear only my lord allah[swt. Seek knowledge, for knowledge is one of those things in life that will not come to you, in your seat... in front of a computer monitor.. Bid'a... are computers? are planes? they make man fly when allah[swt] didn't design them for flight are car? they such selfish polutant of the environment. How many of you use alcoholic perfumes??? How many dress different to th asahaba? I real think those brothers that wear a khamis in this weather are brave... i would not! How many of you celebrate any thing other the EiDs? It is easy to point a finger at someone doing wrong... but it is realy hard to see the •••• on the ground that you are about the step into! stop looking at others, just watch the steps you are taking and make sure they take to janaah! salamu calaykum
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 06:58 am Asalaamu Alaykum Br Kamal (Perfection or perfect), did you know that your name is an Ideal sufi name. Your half way there bro, after all most sufi’s yearn for perfection. Unfortunately they only manage to perfectly deceive themselves. I do not indulge in Sufi bashing bro, if you let a sufi talk long enough, he will trip over his own tongue. I am impressed with your analysis from a ‘sufi perspective’. My earlier analysis of the sufi perspective was that of a “beginner sufi” while your analysis is that of an enlightened sufi! I’m shocked that that was only a guess. Based on “your analysis or guess” I think your more than half way there bro! Rejoice amigo. Now all that is left for you is to carry your logic or ‘perspective’ to its natural conclusion and you will be Perfect. The division between Najis (filth) and cleanliness is only perceived with the eye and not true (so you say). So dear brother Kamal perfect delusion can be achieved if you believe that the difference (or division) between the creator and created is only perceived. This is what makes us different from the Sufis, unlike them, we know the importance of the sunnah, filth and cleanliness is not perceived but decreed! And you may pray in shoes while you travel or while you sit. That is up to you. The sunnah (a matter you need to get reacquainted with) is to pray in shoes under most circumstances. It is not a normal sunnah rather the Rasool (PBUH) asked us to pray in shoes to be different than the Jews. Anyone who wants to follow the Prophet’s (PBUH) invitation will be rewarded for it. So while the beginner Sufis tries and to out do the sunnah by means of overdoing acts of perceived righteousness, the enlightened sufi; after have done all his ‘acts of purification’ thinks or realizes, hey, the sunnah, halal and haram is only imaginary. So brother kamal keep treading the path you are on and you just might attain one type of Perfection! Sorry for my sarcasm, I have no tolerance for Sufis (at least the enlightened ones) and the wicked among the Kufaar. I used to be a ‘hard core’ sufi until Allah showered me with is mercy. I suggest you begin to value the sunnah above your ‘perspective’. Allah Yahdeekh! Please respect this folder and post only is you have a sunnah to share with us. You have your little Sufi thing happening. If I wanted, I would have indulged you. Also leave the concept of Bida alone akhi, please, Your having difficulty with accepting a simple Sunnah. If you do not wish to pray in shows (where ever possible) that is your business. Just do tell others its wrong and do not think you are practicing a better sunnah by taking off your shoes. The Rasool (PBUH)took his shoes off only in certain circumstances. Not the other way around.
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 08:03 am Allahu Akbar Allah[wt] bless you for your lengthy, assassination... i would be mad to argue with because you are using Islam against me... I would not ever counter attack any muslim who is using Islam against me... i leave you with your... do's and don'ts... i only made the comment i mad because my name was mensioned... do you hear me calling names... allah[swt] and the path to achieve his love is not something that i should even have to argue about brothers... it is simple... I just can't understand the attacks towards me? have i said i am a sufi? i wish i was... i would then know how to respond to your attacks... I have not read any hadith that says you must shun and push away those that wish to know more then you... please refrain from abe-man tactics to push me into even listening to your wahabist or selfist way of life... If you would like to attack me personaly then do so without the mension of islam... otherwise stop your childish comments... my understanding is perhabs slightly different to yours, but you don't hear me attacking you... i am not the judge nor the jury who you have to face on the day of days! don't make your efforts with me... for allah[swt] is aware of what is in yours and mine hearts!... Brother o brother!... why do you think i shut down the sufi page... those that are trying to keep it running are only allowing themselves to indulge in in sinfull judgement of something they are not too wise to be able to percieve, like most arrogant muslims... Remember allah alone is judge... not you... I hope and pray your attempts towards me are for the sake allh[swt]... for i feel you are attempting to insult me... no act like that can in any way be said to be for the sake of allah[swt]... i pray allah kabir forgives your slander! wacalykuma salaam
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 12:06 pm A/aleykum, JB and Kamal I read your posts and couldn't help but notice how civil and decent u addressed each other, you politely called each other 'walaal' and 'akhi' and look where iblis has led u now. Calmed it down folks cause what you two are talking about can be found in the books. There is no need to go hoarse about it, anyone who wants prove can turn to the books. As it's stated the Prophet(SAW) prayed with and without shoes. Simple as that, if you choose to do either and your intention is to follow the Sunnah of Our Prophet(SAW), Allah(SWA) will reward you for it. What you two are indulging is waving olive branch to iblis, asking him to influence your thoughts without your knowledge, thus going to the extent of disagreeing where disagreement is not warranted. Take a deep breath and say "acuudi bilaahi" and see the right your brother is saying and not the wrong shaydan is showing u. We spend too much time in bashing one another when some kafirs are calling the Quran flawed in other pages, if ur in the mood to bash a darken soul go to those kafirs and show them the door. JB had good intentions when he started this topic and as brother Nur pointed out we should have Towheed in our life's before we go a step further, that should be the pattern we follow in our discusion, not swayed out of course and start rolling our sleeves for another Muslim. True the Ummah has division beyond division, true we have different veiws on how we should conduct ourselves, but it's not hard to see thru a message wether it has venom in it or not. If a message like the one JB is conveying is to uphold the sunnah he is only talking about what he knows,and wisely backed his messages with Hadith's and facts, some will argue those facts need to be examine, but is it that misleading to the extent of dragging each other thru mud. I don't think so!!. Lets not cry wolf!!! where there is no wolf!! If you want to see really sick wolves go to the pages they post to bash our faith. In fact Somalinet is doing diss-service to our faith by allowing to post messages that call the Quran flawed. I leave that to their demise, cause if they choose to ignore such blasphemy and choose to do nothing about it, there will be a day when keyboards will be shut and deeds and desires revealed. All in all shun ibliss fellows and see the right your brethren is doing and not the wrong ibliss is showing u. Till then fii amaani Laah.
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 12:20 pm Funnily enough, I have never been accused of being a Wahabi by a Shi'ite. Only by people who claim to be Sunni and, particularly claim to be followers of Hanafi school of thought. However, they often seem to know very little about that area of fiqh they claim to hold on to. So, when I try to help someone who is not performing the prayer correctly in a masjid, for example, I will politely correct his mistake-according to whatever fiqh he holds on to. Trouble is, I get labelled a wahabi! The situation between Shi'ites and Sunni's today is heatbreaking. I don't care if someone is Shia' or Sunni. Muslims in many countries are being persecuted by non-muslims-like the chechens or those of the former Yugoslavia. Instead of rushing to the defence of these people, we prefer to fight each other!
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 12:22 pm To me Wahabis are certainly spiteful and stinking.They always say something and do something contarary.They do everything under the guise of their beard without fear.They only attract the masses and make them idiots.They only teach imitation.They get easily excited and offended.
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 12:28 pm Note: Shi'a's and Sunni's have many different way of doing things (they happen to contradict each other in so many ways...)... and about the point that only Hanifi's diss you, the majority of N. America is Hanafi!... (80% of Indo- Packs). i don't think you have a choice, man! [You can't expect them to pray like you, they follow a different madhab!] and... Ahl Al Sunnah has been plagued by Salafi/Wahabi (difference?) for so long that people get kind of defensive, you know?!? it's becoming difficult to treat see who's about what... just ignore it/don't take it personal. also... Most people don't know in what sense they "follow" a Madhab (their parents just teach them how to pray - the way their family has ALWAYS prayed - and the ordinary muslim can't back up every act of ibada with Hadith or Qur'an references...) if you really must know why they do what they do, ask their Imams or scholars. Joe Blow doesn't know!
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 12:30 pm Dear Freind, Im not very religious, but i am extremely respectful to my religion, and the sect i was born into ahlul bayt, (shia), i dont know Much about Wahabi's but the amount of info i found out was enough to make me (ashamed to say) despise them. Did you know In Saudi Arabia Under Wahabi Law, the Killing of a Muslim brother/sister who is Shia is Halal, That is MURDER! I mean it is terrible, The treatment of Saudi Shias and Shia Hajjis is disgusting, they treat us like Dirt over there (parents and family and freinds have all experienced the prejudice, They never say that they are shias because they know what they will get. And Under Wahabi/Saudi Law over there, women do not have equal rights as taught by the prophet (may peace be upon him), women stand in the back of the bus, and they dont drive, it is terrible! That in NOOOOOOOO way is part of any quraanicc/sunnah teachings. It is Deplorable...and really disgusting the way they act, especially to muslim shias... It may be because they know what Shias hold, we Hold the Truth, so therefore they want to destroy us to weaken our power. Very Sad. So no my freind, the book you read was not exaggerating, simply staating a fact.
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 01:37 pm Who cares what the Saudis and Wahabis do. As far as I'm concern, the Saudi Arabia under the law of Wahabis and IRAN under the law of Shia are the same to me. Shia, Sufism, Wahabism and any other firqa from Islam are deviate paths. The Quran and Sunnah is what the Propeht left for us. I'm no shia, no wahabi, no salafi, no sufi; I'm a Muslim and who follows the Quran and Sunnah. Shias are extremists too as Wahabits. Shia, like the jews, think they are the chosen people calling themselves ahlul bayt. Even a black African Somali shia person (Sincere) think he or she belongs to ahlul bayt. LOL
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 02:11 pm what are you saying! if you were a true sufi you would realize that sunni and shia are the same truth. Its like the two sides of the same coin! May Allah guide you walaal. You spoil the name of True sufism........ There are many realities but all of you'll are narrow minded!
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 02:14 pm Shia Unvelied: http://www.jamiat.org.za/isinfo/shia_fal.html "WAHABISM EXPOSED!" http://www.alharamain.org/english/index.htm THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SHEE'AH AND MUSLIMS WHO FOLLOW THE SUNNAH: http://www.alharamain.org/english/index.htm SUFISM UNVELIED: http://www.alharamain.org/english/index.htm In Defense of Sunnah: http://www.shariah.net/in-defense-of-sunnah/default.htm About Shi'a Sect: http://www.alsalafyoon.com/EnglishPosts/shclarsonshia.htm
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 02:19 pm LOL, what is so funny to you. I will get my shiekh to read a prayer on you and then you will laugh no more. Do not under estimate the powers of a sufi master!!! Do not !!! Nobody laughs at us!
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 02:24 pm http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/bida.ht The truth about the hadith where Abu Bakr is alleged to sway left and right. "One who is trying to obey his Lord and follow the example of his Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) should know that out of all that is quoted by those who dance while doing Dhikr of Allah, none of it is authentic, such as the story that Allah inspired His Prophet saying, "Truly, Allah is pleased with Aboo Bakr, so is Aboo Bakr pleased with his Lord?" so when Aboo Bakr heard that, he began to shake in delight and sway left and right, and began to say, "How can I not be pleased with Allah?" Even if this imaginary tale is correct, it would oppose their argument, for Allah describes the believers, saying: alladheena idhaa dhukira-LLAAHu fwajilat quloobuhum [8:2] "Those who, when Allah is mentioned, their hearts tremble." In contrast, these people remain unmoved when the Qur'an is recited, whereas when the flute is played, they rush into their well-known movements! However, this incident is not quoted in any hadeeth, authentic or otherwise. From Ibn Taymeeya's Legacy, checking by S. Al-Hilali, p 16 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Furthurmore, from the book "The reality of Sufism" the author points out that the salaf including Ibn Sireen and Ummul-Mu'mineen used to severly criticise those who over reacted from the Quran was being read : that is, excessive crying etc.. See Sufism in the scale of the scholars for more information. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From this, it must be understood that in a variety of countries for example in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is the practise of the mawlavis and the students in the "madrasas" to sway front and back while reading/memorising the Quran. This practise is so ingrained that the mudarris (teacher) beats with the stick the person who doesn't sway to and fro while reading the quran and also during "Dikr sessions". This is against the sunnah of the prophet and as reported by Sheikh Saleem al-Hilali, there is no authentic hadeeth or otherwise regarding this practise. Thus it must be shunned. Muslim Students' Association at UH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rejoinder to Slander Against AbdurRaheem Green -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- compiled by A-Hidaya Rejoinder to the Slander made against Brother AbdurRaheem Green" Assalaamu 'alaykum warahmatullaahi wabarakatuhu, Brother AbdurRaheem Green is a committed da'wah worker and has been engaged in doing da'wah for sometime now, he has visited Sri Lanka twice for public lectures and has -Alhamdulillaah- had a tremendous influence on many people, his audio tapes have circulated far and wide in this part of the world as well as to other places, during his last visit here he spoke out very strongly against Innovations, Misguidance and the people of Innovations, this probably disturbed the 'Sufi-Innovators' here and when AbdurRaheem departed from Sri Lanka a organisation named 'As-Sunna Foundation of Sri Lanka' (actually Anti-Sunna F. is a more befitting name for them) put out a Slander against him by way of a article on the Internet, Initially we did not want to give any thought to it and wanted to ignore it, but after receiving some suggestions and keeping in mind the fact that there is always the possibility that the people might misunderstand Br AbdurRaheem and consequently our da'wah if we were to remain silent, we felt it was our duty and decided to put out an rejoinder to the Slander after some deliberation, I am sending you this rejoinder for your records and for you to know about the lies and obvious deceptions that these Sufis indulge in, the head-quarters of this deviant group is in the U.S. and go by the same name as a disguise into attracting innocent Muslims. Please send this to whom ever you feel might be of usefulness, Jazakumullaahu Khairan. - Shiraz Mohamedali. 'As-Sunna Foundation' - Spreading Mischief through the Art of Lying and Deception- Rejoinder to the Slander made against Brother AbdurRaheem Green Indeed all praise is for Allaah, we praise Him, we seek His aid and we ask for His forgiveness. And we seek refuge in Allaah from the evils of our own souls and our evil actions. Whosoever Allaah guides, then none can misguide him, and whosoever Allaah misguides, then none can guide him aright. I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except Allaah alone, having no partners and I bear witness that Muhammad (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) is His servant and Messenger, After that; This is a response to an article which appeared on the Internet by an organisation named 'As-Sunna Foundation of Sri Lanka', In reality the article is a slander based on lies and false accusations against a well known brother and daae'e Brother AbdurRaheem Green who visits Sri Lanka regularly. Inshaa'Allaah at the conclusion of this response, it would be made very clear to the sincere, unbiased and knowledgeble seeker of the truth, that this so called 'As-Sunna Foundation' has deliberately accused brother AbdurRaheem Green with that which he is innocent of thereby making itself guilty in front of Allaah of trying to oppose and fight the truth as it is found in the Noble Qur'aan and Sunnah and as was understood by the best of generations - the companions (May Allaah be pleased with them all) of the Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam), so in reality this organisation has not gone against brother AbdurRaheem Green but has gone against the pure teachings of the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His final Messenger (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam). It is not our intention here to produce pages of writing to defend the truth, since the truth in itself is clear from error and falsehood and speaks for itself and therefore is not in need of many pages to defend, unlike baatil (falsehood) and dhalaalah (misguidance) in which case scores of pages are needed to be produced in order to try and defend it. Before we actually begin, we wish to draw the attention of the reader to the seriousness and danger involved in slandering and defaming Muslims to which this organisation has resorted to. Slander and the making of false accusations, are considered to be major sins in Islaam, this includes fabricating or spreading a lie about your brother Muslims in their absence, and ofcourse slander is a more henious sin than back-biting, since it involves not only back-biting but also lying with intent to maliciously dishonour a Muslim, Allaah has cursed those who slander and back-bite in no uncertain terms, Allaah said; " Woe to every slanderer and backbiter " [Soorah Humaza; Verse 1] and the Messenger of Allaah (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) said: "...... Whoever says about a believer, that which is not in him, Allaah will house him in a mill of the people of the fire of Jahannam untill he leaves off what he said......" [Abu Dawud, Haakim and others] also it is reported that the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) said regarding indulging in defaming a Muslim, "Ribaa (interest) is divided into seventy-two categories, the least is (as evil as) the like of a man who comes (fornicating) with his mother, and the worst form of Ribaa is (the like) of a man who deliberates in the honour of his brother" [Tabaraani] And from among the characteristics of a hypocrite described to us by the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) is that " ......when he speaks he lies......" [Saheeh Bukhaaree and Saheeh Muslim] and the hypocrites are the worst of people, because of their evil deeds which involve deception, consequently their punishment would be the most severe on the day of Judgement. As regards the punishment for slandering and back-biting then it is very well known to us, the Messenger of Allaah (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) said "On the night of Mi'iraj 'I came across a people who had nails of brass, they were scratching their faces and chests', so I said 'who are these (people) O Jibreel ? so Jibreel said 'these are those (people) that eat the flesh of the people [1] and they dishonour them" [Sunan Abu Dawud] - we seek refuge in Allaah from such a punishment. How serious a sin is Ribaa? The matter is regarded as being of such enormity that Allaah has declared war on whoever deals in it, the lowest degree of Ribaa has been compared to a man's commiting adultery with his own mother, but the worst type of Ribaa is a man's insulting his brothers honour - Don't you understand ? so we say to this organisation that is supposed to be Islamically based, why go ahead and insult your brothers honour to your hearts content; backbite, slander, spread rumours, insult and criticize..........where will you run to on the Day of Judgement ? " Do they not think that they will be called to account ? on a Mighty Day, a Day when (all) mankind will stand before the Lord of the worlds?" [Soorah Mutaffifin, Verses 4-6] We now begin our response to the article, on the cover page of the article, the heading states; "As-Sunna Foundation of Sri Lanka sponsors Debates" "ASFA Student vs a student of Bilal Philipps", "The first debate took place in November......" Firstly it should be noted that brother AbdurRaheem is not a student of Shaikh Bilal Philips - a clear cut lie - ofcourse it would be a previlage and honour for anyone to be a student of Shaikh Bilal Philips but simply the truth is that brother AbdurRaheem is not one. Secondly Brother AbdurRaheem never ever took part in a debate in Sri Lanka - again a clear falsehood and a blatant lie, here we wish to state as regards debating about our religion, that it is something which we Muslims do not need to do, since Allaah said in His Noble Book; " Alif, Lam, Ra, these are the verses of the clear Book " [Soorah A'raf: 7, Verse 1] and " All the Praises and thanks are to Allaah Who has sent down to His slave (Muhammad) the Book (the Qur'aan) and has not placed therin any crookedness " [Soorah Kahf: 18, Verse 1] and " Ta-Sin - These are verses of the Qur'aan and (it is) a Book (that makes things) clear " [Soorah An-Naml: 27, Verse 1] Further more the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) said, " I am leaving you upon clear guidance its night is like its day, none would deviate from it, except one who is doomed to perish " [Sunan Ibn Maajah, Vol-1, Hadith # 43, Arabic-English Translation] So when Allaah says that the Qur'aan is a clear Book without any crookedness in it and when the Messenger Muhammad (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) said that he is leaving us upon clear guidance, where is the room for debate in the Religion ? we seek refuge in Allaah from such ideas, to further strenghten our position we quote one of the great scholars of the past - Imaam Barbahaaree (Rahimahullaah) who died in the year 329 Hijri, he said " If someone comes to debate with you, beware of him, for debating involves argumentation, disputing, seeking to overcome, wrangling and anger. You have been forbidden from all of this. It diverts you both away from the truth, It has not reached us that any of our scholars or people of knowledge argued, debated or disputed. [Explanation of the Creed P-99, English Translation of the classical work Sharh-as-Sunnah, Al-Haneef Publications, U.K] and when a man came to Imaam al-Hasan al-Basree (Rahimahullaah) (d.110 H) wishing to debate about the religion, Imaam al-Hasan al-Basree (Rahimahullaah) replied to him: " I know my Religion, if you have lost your Religion, go out and look for it " [Reported by al-Aajuree in ash-Sharee'ah (P-57), al-Laalikaa'ee in as-Sunnah (P-215) and Ibn Battah (No.586) and it is Saheeh] So we say to this organisation and others like them the like of what Imaam al-Hasan al-Basree (Rahimahullaah) said " We know our Religion, if you have lost yours, go out and look for it ". Then the article reads; "What follows is a transcript of a talk by Abdur Raheem Green given in Sri Lanka", Here we would like to say that it is from fairness and decent ethics that when you transcribe a talk of someone, you should remain faithfull to the speech (words) of the speaker, and should not add or leave a single word of the speech you are transcribing, but unfortunately this has not been done with brother AbdurRaheem's talk, while quoting him, some of his words have been conveniently dropped, some have been added and others played around with! is this the truthfulness, fairness and justice the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) taught us ? Perhaps this is why the title/topic of the talk delivered by Abdur Raheem has not been mentioned at all, Imagine someone refuting somebody's talk in lenth but not giving the source of the talk he is supposedly refuting!!! The talk was titled " Dhikurullaah " - (Rememberance of Allaah) and was delivered by brother AbdurRaheem on the 25th of September '97 at the S.de.S.Jaysinghe Hall, Dehiwela, the audio tapes of this and other lectures by brother AbdurRaheem are freely available and the reader is advised to obtain a copy and listen to it carefully for him/herself to the truth of our claim. On the bottom of the cover page, the article reads; "We dedicate these pages to exposing the Salafis" SubhanAllaah - being ignorant is one thing and voluntarily displaying such ignorance is quite another - the Salafi [2] is one who is committed to the understanding of Islaam from its original sources: The Qur'aan and the Sunnah and from the interpretation that the early generations of Muslims, the Companions and their followers, gave to these sources, in short understanding the Qur'aan and Sunnah according to the understanding of the Sahaabah (May Allaah be pleased with them all) and their followers. So by trying to expose the Salafis what or who is this organisation and others like them, in reality trying to expose - just pause for a while and think - May Allaah have mercy on you. On Page 1 of the article, it reads; " What follows is a transcript of a talk by AbdurRaheem Green given in Sri Lanka, where he attempts to defraud unsuspecting Ahl-us-Sunna wal-Jama'at audience by denying most of the ways of the scholars for 1400 years and by introducing innovated beliefs and prctices into the religion" The above statements which accusses Brother AbdurRaheem Green of introducing innovated beliefs and practices into the religion seems to look like more of a joke than to be based on fact, it stems from clear ignorance of the Sharee'ah, If there were to be a single common feature which could be identified consistently in all of the talks of brother AbdurRaheem then it is his firm and uncompromising stand in opposing innovated beliefs, practices and the people of innovations, he has stood firm and expended great efforts in defending the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) and in refuting the people of innovated beliefs, deviation and misguidance, and now he is accussed of propagating Innovation !!! Indeed the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) said in an authentic Hadith that "The hour will not be established until knowledge becomes ignorance and ignorance becomes knowledge" [Quoted by Imaam Ibn Rajab in Jaami, Vol-1, pp.140-141] he (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) also said " One of the signs of the hour is that knowledge will be removed and ignorance will be dominant " [Saheeh Bukhaaree] and ofcourse the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) who does not speak of his own desires, but it is only a revelation revealed to him, spoke exactly of the state of affairs we are witnessing today. Indeed Imaam Ibn Hazm (Rahimahullaah) (d.452 H) spoke rightly when he said " There is nothing more harmful to the various branches of knowledge and its people than those who enter themselves into it, and are not from it. They are ignorant and they think they have knowledge, they cause corruption whilst they think they are correcting the affairs. [Quoted by Shaykh Bakr Abu Zaid in his excellent book at-Ta'aalam wa Atharuhu 'alal Fikr wal-Kitaab, P-7] So we seek Allaah's refuge from a soul which arrogantly seeks to raise itself to the level of mountains whereas to Allaah it does not equal even a seed! And in the view of the scholars and the students of knowledge it is weak and collapsed, so it is as is said: "If those who did not have knowledge remained silent, than there would be no more disagreement", so the key to all of this is that each person should know their own worth and station, and then not transgress by over stepping their bounds - And it is Allaah alone who grants success. [Taken from the Newsletter 'Al-Istiqaamah' published by the Call to Islam Da'wah centre -U.K] And now a quick refutation to the seven main points raised in the Introduction of the article; 1. " Green classifies all innovation into one category " Response: Yes, Indeed it is not AbdurRaheem but the Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) himself who said " Kullu Bid'aah Dhalaalah " ask even a six year old child who is studying Arabic, the meaning of the Arabic word 'Kullu' which appears in the above hadith [3] and the reply would be 'All/every' states that "All/every innovation is misguidance" this leaves no room for the propagators of the so-called 'Bid'aah Hassanah', since the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) in his unique way of speech left no room for doubt when he used the word 'Kullu Bid'aah' - 'Every/all Bid'aah'. Ofcourse the word innovation used in this and other ahadeeth refer to the innovations in the Religion, and not outside of it, this is clearly seen and understood from the following hadeeth, in which the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) said " Whoever innovates into this affair of ours (Religion), something we have not commanded, it is to be rejected " [Saheeh Muslim, Vol-3, Hadith # 4267, English Translation] and in another narration, "Whoever does an action, that we have not commanded, it is to be rejected" [Saheeh Bukhaaree, Vol-9, Chapter 20, Hadith # 448, Arabic-English Translation] So it is the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) himself who has classified "Kullu Bid'aah" (All/every innovation) as misguidance and brother AbdurRaheem is conveying what the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) has said. 2. " Green contends that there is no Dhikr of the tongue " Response: This is a evil and vile accusation against AbdurRaheem, Brother AbdurRaheem never ever said this, the reader is advised to obtain the audio tape titled 'Dhikurullaah' by AbdurRaheem and listen to it completely, no where will one find AbdurRaheem saying that there is no Dhikr of the tongue, but if by Dhikr of the tongue it is meant making Dhikr audibly (loudly) [4] then this is not allowed according to the authentic Hadeeth found in both Saheeh Bukhaaree and Saheeh Muslim, it is reported that once when the Sahaaba (May Allaah be pleased with them all) were saying 'Allaahu Akbar' loudly, upon hearing this the Messenger of Allaah (Sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallaam) said "O people! Be kind to yourselves, for you are not calling upon a deaf or an absent one, but you are calling an All Hearer and an All Seer........." [Saheeh Bukhaaree, Vol-8, Hadeeth # 393, Arabic-English Trans and Saheeh Muslim, Vol-4, Hadeeth # 6526] This hadeeth provides sufficent proof to any Muslim desiring to seek the truth in this regard to stop making Dhikr audibly (loudly). Allaah also said in the Noble Qur'aan " And remember your Lord by your tongue and within yourself, humbly and with fear and without loudness in words in the mornings, and in the afternoons and be not of those who are neglectful " [Soorah An'faal, 8:Verse, 205] 3. " Green contends that movement and using the Attributes of Allaah for and during Dhikr is not allowed " Response: Here again we wish to repeat our request to the reader, please obtain the tape of the talk and listen carefully to what AbdurRaheem says, nowhere does he say that using the attributes of Allaah during Dhikr is not allowed - which Muslim would say so! and if one is not to use the Attributes of Allaah whilst doing Dhikr then with what or how
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 02:32 pm Shi'ism: An Exposition and Refutation of the Sources... http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/group/shiasm/Khutoot.frame_2.html 1 - PUBLISHER'S NOTE 2 - INTRODUCTION 3 - THE PREDETERMINED FACT OF SECTARIANISM 4 - AL-KHUTOOT AL'AREEDAH THE CALL TO RECONCILIATION OF THE VARIOUS SECTS ND SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT 5 - ISLAMIC JURISPRUDENCE 6 - THE QUESTION OF TAQIYYAH 7 - SHI'ITE ATTACK ON THE NOBLE QUR'AN 8 - SHI'ITE LIES, EVEN AGAINST `ALI 9 - REJOIOCING OF THE MISSIONARIES AND ORIENTALISTS 10 - SHI'ITE VIEWS ON THE MUSLIM RULERS 11 - MALICE AGAINST ABU BAKR AND `UMAR 12 - SHI'ITES EXALT THE ASSASSIN OF THE CALIPH `UMAR 13 - DESIRE FOR REVENGE AND DESTRUCTION 14 - SHI'ITES' WAY OF THINKING UNCHANGED 15 - DISTORTION OF HISTORICAL FACTS 16 - THE SHI'ITES PLACE THEIR IMAMS ABOVE THE MESSENGER 17 - SHI'ITE TREACHERY TOWARDS ISLAMIC GOVERNMENTS 18 - THE TREACHERY OF AL-'ALQAMI AND IBN ABIL-HADEED 19 - AN IMPEDIMENT TO RECONCILIATION 20 - SALVATION CANNOT BE ATTAINED WITHOUT PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE AND GRANTING SOVEREIGNTY TO AHLIL-BAIT 21 - SHI'ITES DIFFER WITH MUSLIMS IN FUNDAMENTALS, NOT ONLY IN THE SECONDARY ISSUES 22 - THE TALE OF THE DOOR AND THE TUNNEL 23 - THE- CONCEPT OF PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE ACCORDING O THE MUSLIMS 24 - FRIENDSHIP AND AFFECTION AMONG THE RIGHTLY-GUIDED Caliphs 25 - WHY WE MUST RID OURSELVES OF ANY CONNECTION WITH THE SHI'ITES 26 - SHI'ITES PREFER PROPAGATION OF THEIR SECTARIAN TENETS TO TAQREEB 27 - THE INTRIGUE OF BAABISM AND BAHAISM AND THE ENSUING UPHEAVAL IN IRAN 28 - FROM SHI'ISM TO COMMUNISM 29 - AN OUTLINE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE SUNNIS AND THE SHI'ITES, IN MATERS OF FAITH AND DOCTRINE 29.1 - THE GLORIOUS QUR'AN 29.2 - AHAADEETH (THE PROPHETIC TRADITIONS) 29.3 - THE COMPANIONS OF THE PROPHET 29.4 - BELIEF IN THE ONENESS OF GOD 29.5 - BELIEF IN THE ONENESS OF GOD (Cont'd.) 29.6 - SEEING ALLAH 29.7 - THE UNSEEN 29.8 - AALUR-RSOOL (THE FAMILY OF THE MESSENGER) (May Allah be pleased with them all) 29.9 - ISLAMIC JURISPRUDENCE 29.10 - Al-WALAA' (OBEDIENCE AND DEVOTION) 29.11 - GOVERNING THE ISLAMIC STATE 30 - FOOTNOTES
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