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...WHO prohibits things in Islam??? QUR`AN or HADITHS???

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum ALL!

I just read posts in this site---relating that things are "haram" and the only place that its said to be prohibited is in the hadiths.

ANYTHING that is NOT prohibited in the Koran is NOT prohibited. Everything in life(EVEN if they look bad) are LAWFUL until it's prohibited. No Prophet, Our Muhammad(PBUH) or another, could ever prohibit anything. When the Prophet Prohibited something to himself(ONCE)...God humiliated the Prophet(because the prophet had to make a public statement...for something he prohibited to himself, with his wife Ca`isha's knowledge" in public---when God revealed the following:

"[66.1] O Prophet! why do you forbid (yourself) that which Allah has made lawful for you; you seek to please your wives; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." The Prohibition!

Our Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, did NOT prohibit anything that God did not prohibited in His Qur`an. To say he did(or could) is a grevious sin---and Idol-Worship. The Prophet only uttered THE QUR`AN---and nothing more. God tells us that in the Qur`an:

"This (Quran) is the utterance of an honorable messenger. It is not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe. Nor is it the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed. A revelation from the Lord of the universe. HAD HE EVER UTTERED ANY OTHER RELIGIOUS UTTERANCES (attributed to us), we would have punished him severely, then we would have stopped the revelation to him (fired him). None of you could have protected him against us." (69:40-47)

...He was a servant who ruled, lived, preached, and presented only the Koran: NOTHING MORE! Because he was a Prophet---the sole mission of his career was to bring forth that which God related to him THROUGH the Qur`an. A book that God calls "[17.89] And certainly We have explained for men in this Quran EVERY kind of similitude, but most men do not consent to aught but denying." EVERY KIND---do you hear God? He forgot NOTHING(Because he does not forget) and He did not leave it for the Prophet to do(prohibit)...because GOD is GOD(its ONLY He who prohibits)

"6:38 And there is no animal that walks upon the earth nor a bird that flies with its two wings but (they are) genera like yourselves; WE HAVE NOT NEGLECTED anything in the Book, then to their Lord shall they be gathered." NOTHING---It is complete and ALL THERE!

The Prophet of God(Pbuh) would NEVER say anything that is not said in the Qur`an. He related to us that which Gabriel related to him...and nothing more. FOR THIS, any Hadith that is going against Qur`an is simply out of the window. Do we not think at all? HOW did the Hadiths came???? It was "my grand-father heard his grand-father say that he heard the messanger of Allah say 'this' and 'that'"---so Bukhari and Muslim(and others) just quote...that OLD GUY(while they really questioned...his great-grand son)...Is that something that we should make "above" the Qur`an?(NOTE: Bukhari lived 200 years after the Prophet)

Most Muslims nowdays follow the Hadiths` Prohibitions---When God says time and time again...that "GOD DOES NOT FORGIVE 'SHARKI'(IDOL-WORSHIP)"---Is it not Idol-worship to think of something prohibited because the "Hadiths" said so...while the Qur`an did not? Do we not see what happened to those who were before us(Christians and Jews)...when they followed their Rabbis and Priests??? Are they not enough example for us?

The greatest tragedy in these people today is that they're at loss because they followed their religious leader...and thought they were on the right path, as God tells us: "[33.67-8] And they shall say: 'O our Lord! surely we obeyed our leaders and our great men, so they led us astray from the path; O our Lord! give them a double punishment and curse them with a great curse.'"

Leaders and Great Men who told them that the "TALMUD" is a Law of God(the sayings of Moses and the Prophets)(ring a bell??)...and that "JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD"---and because they tempered with the words of God and followed that other than which was revealed to them, and/or altered it itself.

Millions of Muslims today pray wrong...pay the zakkat wrong...ablute wrong...and do most of the religion's practices wrong---because scholars in their sects related the practices differently. Is not that sad? WHEN ALL of these things are mentioned in the Qur`an, CLEARLY...on how to do it---and what to say...and how to say it. Just pitty!

God, the Forever-Truthful, tells us in His Noble Qur`an: "25:30. Then the Messenger will say: "O my Lord! Truly my people treated this Qurán with neglect."

People, no one is better than God---and His words are MOST high. It's THE ONLY thing to follow---Him and His Words(to the core!)

"Say (O Muhammad), 'Whose testimony is greater?' Say, 'God is the witness between me and you that THIS QURAN was given to me to preach it to you, and to whomever it reaches.' However, you certainly bear witness that you set up other gods beside God (by upholding other sources beside Quran). Say, 'I will never do what you are doing; I disown your idol-worship.'"(6:19)

When I read this verse---I see the million different hadiths in the different sects...and how they contradict each other and how sick it makes you feel. WHY disagree on anything when God binded you in ONE book? Why look for another source...is it(THE QUR`AN) enough????? God calls it complete---and I bear witness that He is Most Truthful...so what is wrong with the picture?????...You do your home work!

Talmud or Gemara(hadiths in Judaism) lost a nation before us(by relating lies to them...and saying the "prophets said this and that" when they didn't)---I can't help but see how the "hadiths" of ours(in different sects) are doing the same. I do believe with all my heart and soul---that there ARE hadiths out there which are GOOD and PURE---and I can tell those...because they do NOT contradict the Qur`an!


...Forgive me if I said anything that offended you!


May God help see us the falsehood as it is a falsehood...and the Truth as it is the Truth! Amen!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad! *>.<*

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Yaska

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Salaam,

TO Ahmad;

Marka hore waxaan ku weydiiyey Ma qofbaa kula wadaagaya Magaca "Ahmad"? marka kale Ilaa Maalintii aad soo gashay meesha oo dadka oo dhami ku lahaayeen Muslim matihid ilaa maanta "I suspected you !!"

26 sano ayaan jiraa, anoo yar aan imid,oo wadamadan ku korey markaa afsoomaaliga ma aqaan, Qur'aankana Af Ingiriisi aan ku xafidsanahay, Mowduuc kasta oo diinta oo lafurana waa aqaanaa oo waa ka hadlaa, waan fatwoodaa oo cilmi aan leeyahay, Arinkastana anoo taxliinin ayaan go'aan ka gaaraa, waxyaabaha shubuhaadka oo dhan ayaa igu socdo.....
LAAKIIN MAANTAAD SOO GAADHAY MEESHAAD U SOCOTAY !!! MA QUR'AANKA AYAA WAX XAARAANTIMEEYA MISE XADIISTA? what a Question !?

In Xadiis Daciif yahay, in uu mucalal, mowduuc, Gariib yahay waxaa lagu garan karaa in ay AAYAD QUR'AAN AH uun iska hor yimaadaa ? saas miyaa!!

Boqol Firqo ayaa jirta oo ishaysata, Xadiisyo qur'aanka ka soo horjeeda daraadood?

Cilmigaagu wuu batay, AL.Culuumul Hadiis waa laabtay!!, Cilmi Jarxi wa Tacdiil waa daadisay!!, Cilmi Rijaal waa dhamaysay!!!! Culuumul Qur'aan Meel baad ku soo hubsatay!!!! Intaas oo Idil adoo dhameeyey aa hadana LAbo erey ma icraabi kartid sow ma aha? Carabi intee jiraa Soomaaligii baabad kari la'dahaye!!!

Login aad samaysatayse ma shaabad baa, cadeynaysa in aad Real Ahmad"No Ahmed!!" tahay? wow!!!

"Forgive me if I said anything that offended you! "
Horaad u sii ogeyd in aad wax baas ku hadlaysid, markaa arinkaagu wuxuu ahaa miyaa AFEEF HORE LAHOW, AMA ADKEYSI DANBE LAHOW!!

Biyo Saretagay waa la sugayaa!!!!

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum!

Yaska,

Walaalkiis, magaca "Axmad" waa magac dad badan la baxaan...waxaana arkay dad kale oo la dhaho Axmad Somalinet gudaheeda, so what? Imisaa "Annonymous" aragtay??? LOL!

Mahad Rabbiga dadkaa iska leh, Alle wuxuu isolon-siiyay...diintiisa ISLAM, marka...waxba taa haka shakiyin. Ka shaki inaan bal isku "urur" nahay! :-)

Ingiriis baad Qur`aanka ku xifday? Yaa ku yiri Ingiriis baa Qur`aanka lagu xifdin karaa??? Which translation...baad ku xafiday? Yusuf Ali? Shakir? Dawood? Ali? Rashad? Pictall? Which one, `cause all of these DIFFER!

...Wixii Qur`aanka ka hor-imaada oo "xadiis" ah---ma`aha xadiiska Nebiga. Nebigu wuxuu dadka baray, ku dhaqmay, ku wacdiyay, ku amray----QUR`ANKA! After this, the whole Muslim "scholars" could come together and make it "authentic"---it'd not matter a zip for me! Capiche?

Also, I see you're one more victim of the 'some' Arab brothers!

Nobody needs to forgive me, but I NEED to ask! Hope you get that!

...So, for i'm trying to understand, what exactly was your post about? :-)


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad! *>.<*

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Yaska

Unrecorded Date
Salaam,

TO Ahmad;

You are the "right" AHMAD! The one I suspected him !! wuf, What somali language you used!! " Mahad Rabbiga dadkaa iska leh, Alle wuxuu isolon-siiyay...diintiisa ISLAM, marka !!! Soomaaligii Bible lagu soo turjumay miyaa mise waa indhahayga...Ilaahay Rabigiisa ayaa wuxuu yiri:!!!!.. Ururka aad sheegaysidse muxuu yahay!!

Inta Translation ee qur'aanka ingiriisi loogu turmuamay oo dhan waa taqaanaa!! another interested point!!

You fail again, think twice!! am I one of victim of Arabs or I am Arab my self!!! you need highly qualified lawyer !!! U could find one in USA, i guess.! You don't have even clue about science of qur'an and science of hadiths !!! i am sure this.
Does this helps you to understand my last post!

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allale

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to.ahmed.
asalaama calaykum.
maxaad tiri war cusub baas latimide maad noo sheegtid dadka aad isku fikrada tihiin si aan meesha bugta farta usaarno waxaan kawadaa si uusan waqti badan nooga lumin oo aan kaalaniqaasho muhiimada,arintaan waa arin caqiidada kusaabsan!. aniga waxaad iila muuqataa in aad tahay qolo layiraahdo quraaniyiin oo quraanka kaliya xujeeysata masaas baa?.

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Ansaari

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Asalaamu Caleykum!

Waxaan saaran nahay DOON, rakaabku iswada aqoon. (Illahayoow na samatabixi).

Ninkan Axmed ah, qof Diin yaqaan ayuu isaga kaaya dhigayaa, balse WAX uu yaqaano maleh.

Waxaa jira 1000 waxyaalood oo qaladaada ah oo uu galay, balse weli kusii indha adag yahay. Markaad aqrisid fikradihiisa waxaad arki waxyaabo badan oo shaki ku galiya, sida markii uu yiri:"masjidka islaamka ee Al-quds ama Al-Aqsa, micno saasa inooguma fadhiyo, kamana duwana kuwa kale."

Wuxuu soo xigtey Aayadan ingiriisiga ku qoran:"Say (O Muhammad), 'Whose testimony is greater?' Say, 'God is the witness between me and you that THIS QURAN was given to me to preach it to you, and to whomever it reaches.'However, you certainly bear witness that you set up other gods beside God (by upholding other sources beside Quran). Say, 'I will never do what you are doing; I disown your
idol-worship.'"(6:19)


Aayadu waxay ku jirtaa Sura Al-Ancaam, nambarkeedu waa 19, Micnaha aayadan oo aan kitabka macaanida Qur'anka kariimka ee af-soomaliga ka soo xigtey waa sidan:
((Dheh Muxamadoow (scw): "Maxaa u weyn Markhati? " Dheh: Alle (weyne) baa marag ah dhexdeena Aniga & idinka; Qur'aankani waxaa la iigu waxyoodey si aan ugu digo idinka iyo ciddii u garaaba. Ma ka marag kici kartaan xaqiiq ahaan in Alle sokaddii jiraan Illaahyo kale?" Dheh: "Anigu kamarag kicimahayo markhaatigaaga (oo kale). Dheh: Laakiin Xaq ahaan Isagaa (Alle) an Kan Keliya ee Illaaha ah. Run ahaantiina, anigu beri baan ka ahay waxa aad la wadaajisaan cibaadada Asaga (Alle) la jirkiis.

Waxaa halkaa inooga cad micnaha Aayada oo ka hadleysa SHARIIGA iyo sida uu ugu adeegsaday in aay ka hadleyso (xadiisyada). Ismana leh.

War ninyahoow Allihii ku abuurtey ka baq, oo iska jir badaha aadan cilmiga u laheyn ee aad shab iska leedahay.

Markii aan aqriyo mowduucyadaada waxaa is weeydiiyaa anigu su'aalo badan, waxaana maskaxdeyda kusoo dhaca waxyaabo badan.

Walaaloow is illaali oo ka fiirso waxa aad meesha soo dhigayso, kana baq Allihii ku abuurtay, iskana hubi cidda aad XOGTA kasoo qaadaneyso.

Waxaan Illaah ka baryayaa in uu Tawfiiqda na waafijiyo.

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum dhamaantiin!


Yaska,

Walaalkiis, "Mahad Rabbiga dadkaa iska leh" waa uun wax lamid ah "Alxamdu lilLahi-rabul insan" ama "Alxamdu lilLahi-rabul caalamiin"...so what is your point? "BIBLE"---Ha! Is that a Joke? The Bible, Bro...is a falsied book, Glory Be to God...Qur`an is a book beyond doubt. Authenticed beyond man's ridiculeous eye---and THIS is my only Holy-Book to follow...and those hadiths that agree with it!

Oh, and let me tell ya, Bro...many Arabs are victims of 'some' Arabs, also. Did I tell you that you're/you're not Arab? Listen the day, quitely, Brother! :-)


Allale,

Walaalkiis, yaan isku fikrad nahay??? ISLAM! Suni ma`ahi...hadii aad rabtid inaad taas ogaatid. Walaal, quraaniyadu waxay diidan yihiin XADIIS oo dhan---aniga waxaan diidanahay kuwa Kitaabka ka hor-imaanaya(xarimaya...wax aan kitaabka lagu xarimin, etc)...waan aamin sanahay inuu jiro XADIISyo badan oo run ah, wanaagsan, oo la raaco...sidaan u aaminsanahay waxaa yira "aayado" badan oo Bibleka ah oo sax ah(sababtoo ah...Kitaabka Qur`aanka ah ayay sheegaysaa wuxuu sheegayo)


Ansaari,

Ansaari, Ansaari, Ansaari...walaalkiis you're just practising what other billion and quater Muslims do. "disown" anything that is not their 'dictorine'. Nothing to be surprised about!

Walaale, ALLE baa ka badalay Al-Aqsa inay Qibla noqoto. Alle wuxuu xaram nooga dhigay KACBAH. Al-Aqsa labaduba ma`aha. Waa masaajid qayr wayn...but so is every other mosque---because it's God's House! I love Al-Aqsa mosque...because of its history of goodness and rituals by people whom I love, but I DON'T intend to idolize it. Hadii wax uu Alle iiga dhigin aan ka dhigo---IDOL-Worship bay noqonaysaa. Adiga hadaad rabtid inaad ka dhigtid...wax aysan ahayn, be my guest!

Walaalkiis, wax diin yaqaan maxaan iskaga dhigayaa??? Islam waa NOLOSHEENA. Sidaan cuntada u cuno oo u seexano...baa nalooga rabaa inaan u barano. SIDOO kale, wixii aan barano waa inaan dadka u sheegnaa. Kii qaatana asagay jirtaa...kii diidana asagay jirtaa. Wax cid cid ku qasbaysa malaha!


...Cafi Alle iyo masaabax, dhamaantiin!


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!*>.<*

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Yaska

Unrecorded Date
Salaamu Caleykum,
TO Ahmad;

Indho adaygii ayaad wadaa wali miyaa! bal yara fiiri waxaad qortay "waa uun wax lamid ah: ", Mudo badan ayaan mowduucyadaada la socday, marar badan aan ku difaacayay !! but just for purpose,, to dig you down".

Wax haba yaraatee Shucuur Islaami aha oo kugu jirta malaha, IIMAAN haba yaraadee oo kugu jira malaha!!. Ereyadda aad qoreysid iyo tactics aad isticmaalaysid ayaa even the layman can understand!!

IIMAANku wax la mateli karo ma aha, wax la iibsana ma aha,! yes we do use same word in both religion " FAITH", are they similar? Mida kale diinta Kiristaanku ma in ay dadka diinta haysta ka saarto oo ay diin kale galiyaan uu bay ka shaqaysaa sidii uu yidhi Gaandiba!

you said "BIBLE"---Ha! Is that a Joke? The Bible, Bro...is a falsied book,"!!! aan ku suaalee " Nabi Muhamed (s.c.w) muxuu ku yidhi Cumar binu khadab markii uu helay warqad kitaabka Injiil ka mid ah?

again you fail, I am sorry.. but you tried atleast-> "many Arabs are victims of 'some' Arabs, " becasue of what?? because of Islam???? some arab clans were forced to convert to Islam ?
History of Muhamed(ppah) must be very intersted to you?!!

Ansaari,

Suuratul Al-Ancaam waa suurad Makki ah, wax kalena kama sheekayso oo aan ahayn Caqiidadda iyo kalinadda Eebe, Ayaadaas oo ah dhamaad suuraduna waxay u sii gogol xaaraysa fasliga lakala faslinayo sanab caabudka iyo qaciidadda eebe, ee suuradaha soo socda.....Ma Gaalbaase fahmi!!!!!

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum!


Yaska,

Walaalkiis, waxaan kuu sheegayay...MICNAHA erayga aad qabsatay. Waxaan iri: "Rabbiga dadka"---waad qabsatay...waan kuu sheegay wuxuu 'yahay'.

Brother, I don't need your "difaac"---we're all here to discuss/share what we know/don't know. There is no need to protect anyone. You might have agreed with me...but you certainly didn't protect me---and if you think you did, you're gravely mistaken! I'm simply one who is walking too higher-grounds to even care what anybody says about my beliefs...or who "protects" it.

As for "digging me down" HAAHAHAHAH! You really don't need to! Just ask me so...whatever you want to know! I'm not a hypocrite, Brother! I will tell you...whatever, and I MEAN whatever...you wanna know! You're wasting too much of your time and energy...to try and "dig me down"---when i'm one who is not afraid/ashamed to tell the world what he believes in. SO, don't wear yourself out! :-)

You said: "Wax haba yaraatee Shucuur Islaami aha oo kugu jirta malaha, IIMAAN haba yaraadee oo kugu jira malaha!!. Ereyadda aad qoreysid iyo tactics aad isticmaalaysid ayaa even the layman can understand!!" HAHAAHAHAHAH! Walaalkiis, bal dhagayso waxaad sheegaysid! What is your point? I don't need your consent to be Muslim and have FAITH. I don't! So, you can quit with the Judgement Scroll!


You also said: "IIMAANku wax la mateli karo ma aha, wax la iibsana ma aha,! yes we do use same word in both religion "FAITH", are they similar? Mida kale diinta Kiristaanku ma in ay dadka diinta haysta ka saarto oo ay diin kale galiyaan uu bay ka shaqaysaa sidii uu yidhi Gaandiba!" Tsk tsk tsk! You feel the need to quote Pagans(Gandhi? Oh, MY!)! You think i'm Christian? Sorry, man...I'm one too MUSLIM to be an Idol-Worshiper(like Christian)!

As for the Bible, I said "FALSIED BOOK"---Not 'all-untrue'.

As for the "victims," you got it all back-wards. I told you...to lllliiiisssstttteeennnn the day, Brother! Somebody was converted in force---that doesn't necessarly mean they're the victim! The victims become those who THEY turn up-side-down! Muawiyah, who was forced into Islam...Started a fire...and it STILL(after so many centuries) burns in this community of Islam. Somehow...I don't see him as a "victim" at all! :-)

Muhammad's(pbuh) history??? Of course, it's interest to me...He was MY Prophet...I love him. Knowing his history is part of my existance and nourashment. He brought a world of wonderful beliefs to me!

Brother, do you not know that calling somebody "kaafir" who is not is the most offense? AND, I don't intend to forgive you for that!(you can take that to the bank!)

As for the verse...the main idea of posting it WAS to tell how wicked IDOL-WORSHIP is! So, instead of mocking the person's identity of faith---why don't you make a case to prove them wrong...and teach them on the way, if you're the one on the right path?

And, Yaska, please don't insult your intellegence---a christian sees the Qur`an as a "demonic book"---they'd not tell others to live by it, love it, and hold it fast...against anything else!


This has been the case---since the begining of time. Whenever somebody said "believe in God, and have him as a guider...and HIM alone---with nothing else"---people mocked them and insulted their "identity of faith". God says more than once in the Qur`an that "man is ungrateful being". Trust me when I tell you---the day DOES repeat itself!

...I don't intend to be rude or harsh---but some people have just the nerve to talk...with their lips sealed. I do not get the point...in that! Sorry!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Yaska

Unrecorded Date
hi

Ahmad-Baadari,

man, you trying hard to cover the truth, but fortunetly it slipping between your fingers!! not only the tone of the somali language u uses but even your english language too sounds more biblical.

Baadari waxay qortay: "I'm one too MUSLIM to be an Idol-Worshiper(like Christian)!" Qur'anku markuu la hadlayo, ama kahadlayo kiristaanka muxuu isticmaalaa? idol-worshiper!!

Mise wali maskaxdaadu waxaa ku qufulan tactics qarnigii 19aad ee ahaa in Muslimiinta laga waswaasiyo diintooda? oo markaa shubahaad lagu furo?mise waxaad wali waxaad dabadda haysataa wixii uu Edward Siad Lafaha u qaaday?. miyaanadse la socon halka arini marayso? Inter-Faith dialogue!.

Su'aasha isweydiinta lihise waxay tahay Soomaalidu Diin kiristaan ah ma u baahan tahay? Hadaad qabtid arintaas please soo bandhig waxaad haysid. bye the way What have you acheived so far during your visit on this site !!!

Man!!! look at here!!! you wrote: As for the verse...the main idea of posting it WAS to tell how wicked IDOL-WORSHIP is! So, instead of mocking the person's identity of faith---why don't you make a case to prove them wrong...and teach them on the way, if you're the one on the right path?

If I am on the right path?????????? you doubt out!! since I am muslim and U are X.. right? you need case to prove that Islam is the right path!!

Wali waxaan u malaynayaa in aaanad gaarin heer aad isbar bardhigto diintaada iyo diimaha kale, ee aad wali ku xiiqsan tahay uu in aad qaar marin habaabisid? bye way do you know Proffesor John L. Esposito ?

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum!

Yaska,

Christians...observe CHRISMASS(the birthdate of Methras, a pagan son-god)...while they "want to" celebrate Jesus` birthday(which is Nissan 13th in the Hebrew Calendar)...They pray to Jesus and call Mary "The Mother of God"---THIS makes them Idol-Worshippers. The Qur`an calls them "The people of the Book"---and it's true...they're. SO, what is your point?

As for "right path"---there are alot of sects in Islam...and each claims to be the "right path"...so my advice was simply to let me know your "argument" for your "right path".

"Biblical"??? `OY VEY!!! I study the Bible---not as a holy-book for me...but to present my argument against them. I study both Christianity and Judaism---as much as I can. It's when you're LEARNED...that you're a weapon against your enemy. I posted articles here...which I talk about HOW the Prophet is identified in the Bible, etc. AND, Yaska, there is no such thing as "biblical language"---modern people refer the shakespearian as "biblical"...which is just a pokus way to explain something!

"Somalidu diin karistaan ah ma`u baahan tahay?" baad i waydiisay. Yaa yiri way u baahan tahay? Waxaan maqli jiray "habarteyey, bal adba"---why are you shifting the discussion to somewhere it doesn't belong? the discussion was which of the Qur`an and hadiths prohibit things in Islam...I said it was the Qur`an. You seem to have problem with that. So, why don't you make your case...to tell me why? Otherwise, get a life!

What have I achieved so far for being here at Somalinet? I'm interacting with MY people. There isn't a day that goes by which I don't learn something new from here. Simply being here...is a substitute for HOME! Seing people interact...in our somali way. OUR OWN way...which reminds you AND TELLS you where you belong...and what you stand for...and who you're. An existance motivation that comes, naturally.

...Waxay aniga ila tahay inaad tahay mid wax ba meesha aan ku hayn(so much for the "fatwa giver," `eh?)...Marka let me know when you have something better to talk about.


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Ansaari

Unrecorded Date
Asalaamun Calaa Man Itabacal Hudaa!

Ahmed

Waxaan la yaabanahay dhag adeyga aad lasoo taagan tahay meesha.

Waxaad tiri:"I study both Christianity and Judaism---as much as I can.". Tii islaamka ayaadba aqoon, markaas ayaad kuwa kale u booday.

Waxaa jira dad badan oo isticmaalaya magacyo muslim oo hadda ka hor meesha yimid, markii lagu fahmayna oo dhan walbana laga soo gantaalay eyeey quusteen, meeshana isaga tageen.

Mawduuc kasta oo aad soo dhigtay ama fikradaada dhiibatay oo loo riyaaqay ma aragtay? mid waliba dadka ayaad madaxa iskula jirteen. Waa lagaa shakiyey ninyahoow.

Aniga seddex arrimood mid ayaad ii tahay:
1) nin aan caadi aheyn oo wax si kayihiin,
2)nin dhunsan oo firqooyin kale sida Quraaniyiinta iwm ka tirsan iyo
3) nin loo soo direy in uu ummaddan soomaalida ah ee muslimiinta ah shaki & mugdi ka geliyo caqiidadooda.

Waxaad tahayba (Wallaahu Aclam), diin aad taqaanid ma lahan ee orod si fiican usoo baro, haddii aad sida Yaska kugu dhaleecaynayo tahayna mar dhow wiishka ayaa kugu yeeraya, runtiina waad ku ceeboobi. believe me!.

Baab adadn furin malahan, waxaad aqoon malahan. Waxwalba yaqaan baad tahay.
Meesha waxaad u timid dad dhumis & wax darran, balse wiishku kugu yeer.

Xattaa dad soomali ah oo muslimiin ah ayaad ku sheegtay in aay Yahuud ka soo askumeen. Carabta oo dhan (oo dad muslimiin ah oo suubani ku jiraan)saad ugashay waa la ogaa, Usaama waa gaal baad tiri, lacagtiisana wallstreetka taala, Somaaliya jihaadbaa kaa jira ee soomalidu ha isku jihaadeen (ha is laayaan yacnii)baad tiri, masjidul-Aqsaa ayaad liiday kana soo qaaday masjid wax saasa oo faa'iida ah lahey.

.......LIISTUHU WAA DHEERYAHAY.......adna waad is ogtahay markaa KUMAAD TAHAY NINYAHOOW???

ogoowna mar dhow waxaa halka keenayaa FARAHAAGA OO DHAN!. Waa lagula socdaa all ayes on you!.

magaca Axmed & email magac soomaliba cid walba waay la bixi kartaa, xataa BOBKA wuu labixi karaa, balse dadkaasi waa la ogaadaa isla markiiba because of, they don't know how to play the game!.

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Calaykum dhamaantiin!

Ansaari,


Waan kuu sheegay mar horena...dadka bini aadamka ah waxaa uga daran oo aad ku samaysid waa NABSI. Aniga weligay iyo ALLEHAY madhihin "Usama waa nin gaal ah"---Maalinta yomul-qiyaame, adiga umbaa sheegi meesha aad kala timid.

---JIHAADKA SOOMALIYA: Waan kuu sheegay hada ka horna, diinta Islamka waxay ina faraysaa in hadii labo qof oo Muslimiin ah ay is dagaalaan...in labadooda layskugu yeero---la he shiisiiyo. Kii labadooda diida inuu heshiiska qaato...markaas kan heshiiska ogolaaday laga xigsado oo lagu jihaado. QUR`ANKA weeye waxa sheegaya. Aniga ma dhihin...dadka ha iska tagaan oo ha laayaan dadka!

---YEHUD KA SOO ASKUMAY: Walaalkiis, Nebiyadii Alle baa Hebrew(Israelites) ahaa...Muse, Haruun, Yaxye, Zakariye, Da`ud, Sulaymaan...marka kasoo askun waxba dadka kama dhigto "yehud". Weligay madhihin Darood baa "YEHUD" ka soo askumay...balse waxaan iri "HEBREW"...labaduna waa kala gedisan yihiin. Midaan "yehuda" ah...adigaa sheegi doona meesha aad kala timid(maalin aadan waxba qayaami karin)!


---MASJIDUL AL-AQSA: Weligay madhihin "wax faa'ido ah lahayn"---Masjid kasta oo Ilaahay wuxuu leeyahay faaiido ka badan wax kasta oo kale, sababtoo ah waa GURIGII EEBE. Adigaa taa sheegi doona meeshaad kala timid.

Waxay soomalidu ku maahmaahdaa "nin waliba wuxuu yahay buu ku moodaa"---Walaalkiis, waa adiga waxaan oo nabsi ah sheegayee...ma wax aad adiga aaminsan tahay baa???

Yaan ahay??? Axmad...somali, Muslim. SUNI ma`ahi---hadii aad u haysatid taas "wax dhunsana"...hade waxaa la yiri "nin walba cilmigiisuu cayaaraa." Wax Muslim ka badan oon ahay majirto.

Wax Muslim ka badan baad rabtaa soo ma`aha??? Hahaaha! Hadaba, Walaalkiis, aniga taas iga heli maysid! MUSLIM MUSLIM MUSLIM! Wax ka badana malaha...wax ka yarna malaha, meesha aan aniga ahay! MUSLIM oo kaliya! No suni, no shia, no wahabi, no sufi, no fulaan...MUSLIM! Taas haday ku dhibaysana...hada ha iska kaa dhibto! :-)

Loo riyaaqay??? Walaalkiis, who cares? Aniga waxa aan sheego(oo diini ah, fikrad ah, iwm)---riyaaqo, lacag, amaan...iyo wax kale oo aan ka rabo malaha! FIKRADAYDA waan dhiibtey...taas baa wax kasta iiga qiimo badan! Hadii dadku nacaana...waa ISLA meeshii. Weli waan ku faraxsanahay!

Lama baqayo wixii aan aaminsanahay...hadii DUNIDA oo dhan aysan aaminsanayn. Hadii aad tahay nin adiga naftiisa ku filan...dhiibo fikradaada...instead of lying about people's views and talks.

Diinta Islaamka ma`aqaani? hadaba taas aniga umbay i dhibaysaa, baan u malaynayaa! LAAKIIN, adigu(ninka yaqaanow)...maad ka hadashid 'waxa aad taqaan' :-)


Aqsi suurada "NUUN"---waad ogaanaysaa waxa uu NABSI yahay...iyo dhibaatadiisa!


...hadii aad nin wax yaqaan tahay, "nabsiga" dhibaatadiisaad ogaan lahayd! Are you really that miserable, Ansaari? I regarded you much much better than that, but i'm human...who is due to MISTAKE! And, by God, i'm NOT sorry that I mistook you for a different kind...because I learned! Do you know that learning something(bad or good) over-takes that which you lost to get it? Uhm, yea...it's true, try it, Dude! Ah, but then again, as you say, you already have! Silly me! :-)


Wasalama Calaykum!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Ansaari

Unrecorded Date
Asalaamun Calaa Man Itabacal Hudaa!

AXMED

Marka hore anigu kuma nabsan!, markase runta laguu sheego maxaad ugu oradaa NABSI iwm.? Waxaad dhahday ayaan soo xigtey & sida uu hadalkaada u dhacayo ama laga dhadhansan karo.

Waxaan ku bilaabayaa sidan:

Waxaad halkan kore ku tiri: "Anigu Sunni ma ahi!!", haddaba waa halkaas meesha ciladda ka jirtey oo wax nuugu hagaagi waayeen isuna fahmi weeynay.

Muslim haddii aanu nahay waxaa nala faray in aanu u hogaansanaano Alle (swt) & Rasuulkiisa (scw). Alle uhogaansanaano qaadano Kitaabka Alle iskuna xukunno; Rasuulkana raacno adeecno wixii uu Alle nooga keenayna uhogaansamno sunnadiisana raacno.

Waxaan u maleynayaa in aadan garaneynin waxa SUNNI la yiraahdo. Sunni oo la noqdaa ma ahan a "sect" ama firqo, balse waa dariiqii salafiyiintii, dariiqii Suubanaha hayey oo laraaco. Nabigu (scw) markuu dhimanay wixii ugu dambeeyay ee uu ummadiisa kula dardaarmay waxeey aheyd 1) Kitaabka Alle 2) & Sunnadiisa si aanu u badbaadno. Sunni waa qof u dhaqma sidii uu u dhaqmi jirey XABIIBKII (scw).

Waxaad adna la soo istaagtay Sunni ma'ahi, halkaasna waxaa ku xirmay doodaheeni waayo kala mab'da baynu nahay.

Taasna waa waxa keenay "SHAKI" ah sida aad halka ugu dhaqmeeysid & sida aad waxyaalaha ka fiirsa la'aanta ee aad halka soo dhigeyso. Haddaba su'aasha is weeydiinta mudan waxey tahay haddii aadan Sunni aheyn maxaad tahay? Quraaniyiin? Axmadiya? Or what? Just muslim baan ahay Sunnina maahi cid kaa aqrisaneynsa MALAHAN!.

Intaasi waa intaas.

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Aan usoo noqdo NABSIGA aad sheegayso..!

Waxaan la yaabanahay sida aad mar walbaba runta uga leex-leexatid. War ma waxaad qortey ayaad inkirreysaa?. Haddaa ma qof kale ayaa kuu qorey maqaaladan?

Waxaa dib ugu noqday oo baaritaan kusoo suubiyey mowduucyaddii aad meesha soo dhigtay. Ma lawada aqrin karo waxa aad soo dhigtay, balse qaarkii Alle iga haleelsiiyey ayaan rabaa in aa in dhahaaga kugu tuso. Ciddii rabtana waa aay soo arki karaan. (Axmadoow mowduucyadaas ma badali kartid, waad ifahamtey ayaan umaleynayaa).

Mowduuca CUSAMA B LADIN, maqaalkaada 1aad:

Waxaad adoo ninka liidaya ceebaynaya si hor imaad leh ku tiri waxyaabahan hoose oo dhan af-ingiriisna ku qortey sidan: "Anything that we know in our minds, I hate Satan the most. After that, I hate those who forge lie against God. This person that you're reffering to is one of those."

= maxaad halkaa laga fahmi karaa naceybka aad u aqabto adoonkaa muslimka ah & beenta aad ka sheegayso

Baragaraafka 3aad: " His money is in Wall Street, making hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars by the minute. And we all know what Wall Street is based on: INTEREST. And this guy wants to stop corruption??? Ask about his family! Shouldn't you jihad with those, FIRST???"

= Again waa been aad saxaafada westiga kasoo xigatey

Baragaraafka 5aad isla maqaalkaa: "Usama, ALONG with alot of Arabs, just hate the Jews(WHICH by the way has NOTHING to do with Islam...but existed BEFORE Islam)."

= Yahuudi ma cadow muslim miyaa mise waa cadow carab oo kaliya??? Eeg qaladkaada!

Paragaraf 3. Maqaalka 6aad: "it is the Arabs who fabricate lies against God---it is the Arabs who divided our Nation---it is the Arabs who manipulate other Muslims into their evil-on-going-hate against the Jews...on and on and on."

= arabs….arabs….arabs ma nabsiyaa taas? Ma anaa qorey?

Meela qarkii dadka carabta ah xumaant baad kuwada jimcisay adoo leh "ARABS" but not some arabs!. waadna duluntay adiga oo u isticmaalaya kalmado sida "pagans" cawaan iyo dad aan diin heysan!!!!?

Baragaraafka ugu dambeeya isla maqaalkaa: "Learn people...before you praise them. If you tried to learn Usama Bin Laden through his followers, you shall see what a wicked world this is."

= Eehhh a wicked world? Cusama & wixii raacsan waa dhunsan yihiin soo maahan? Waa fahmay sii soco bal…..


QABIILKA "DAAROD"

Islaam baad sheeganeysaa, dullan baadna ku dhex wadaa diinta. Iisheeg meesha aan kugu nabsaday? Adiga miyuusan aheyn kan waxan soo qorey.

- Paragaraafka 7aad ee maqaalkaada 1aad: "But, then again, Somalis always sorta tried to be bind with Arabs. Siad Barre, who HIS ancestor Darood came through Hebrew-Syrian(his father Hebrew, and his mother Syrian"arab")"

= proof la imoow ayaa lagu yiri waad keeni weeyday. Jooji dullanka...

- paragaraafka 8aad.: " Siad Barre and his fellow-somalis therefore hid the fact that they're half Hebrew...but made themselves whole "syrians"!HAHAHAAH! Why???"

= Ma ku nabsadey? Yaa kugu yir waa Hebrew (yahood) waxba hakala saarin… show the people the fact that has bee hiden, can you? Ma ku nabsadey halkaa? ….let's go…

Waxaad kaloo tiri isla maqaalka 2aad, paragraf 2: "I have seen some somalis who put line-age from Darood to the Prophet(Pbuh)---which make me laugh...really bad(SINCE...the prophet didn't have linage!)"

= Kaba soo qaad Nabiga farac ahaan waxba isuma nihin, balse haddii aan iraahdo Somali Maxamed ma ceebbaa? Haddiiba lacala aanu ku abtrisanay maxaad ugu diideysaa? what you mean really bad???. Waxaan umaleynayaa in aad jeclaan laheyd haddii aanu dhihi laheyn waxaanu nahay Turkaano iwm!. Sory for you!


JIHAADKA! (mowduuca ah Jihaadkii maxaa lagu hilmaamay?):


Paragaraafka 2aad: " there IS a Jihad in somalia. These tribes that are killing each other---are shedding blood in our land, for a ridicelous reasons. They're killing one another while saying "laa ilaaha ilaa-Lah". THIS is what you need to Jihad against."

¤Jihaada ayaa somaliya ka jira……dad Laa illaaha illa laahu dhahaya halagu jihaado soo mahan?

Isla Paragaraafka 2aad : "Waxaa la yiri: "nin gurigiisii dab ku kacsan yahay, reero kale dabkood ma damsho." Jihad is step-by-step...until you come to none."

= Jihaadka meelaha kale ee ka jira shaqadeen maaha miyaa? Gurigeyga(dadkeyga) wax usheeg iyo Alle u barri ayaa ku fillan ee jihaadkaad sheegayso mesha ma yaal!

MASJIDKA AL-AQSAA (Al-qudus)

Maqaalkaad 1aad: " Anaga, hadii runta la-rabo, ISLAAM hadaan nahay...Micno maanta wayn nooguma fadhiyo---sababtoo ah...qiblana inooma aha...Xajna inooma aha."

= Haddaba ma anaa qorey waxan? MICNO NOOGUMA FADHIYO & faa'iido inoo ma leh maxaay kala yihiin? Once again miyaan ku nabsaday.

Axmadoow waxaana waa waxyaabahii aad soo dhigay meelo kala duwan. Gacantaadana kusoo dhigtey, dooneysana in aad ka cararto. Markaa saaxiib kuma nabsan mana jecli in qof islaama & qof kaleetaba aan nabsado. Waxaan u maleynayaa in aad qanacday.


Walaaloow Alle ha ku tuso Dariiqa Saxa ah anigana Allaha i tuso. Balse yaanan lagu qaldin.

Waxaana ka codsanayaa ciddii rabta waa ay arki karaan mowduuc yadaaas oo meeshn ISLAM soo dhigay. Indhihiina ayaa idiin macallina. Wax aan ku nabsadayna ma jiraan waana kuwaas aan ka soo xigtey qoraaladiisa kala duwan intii aan kari karey.

Wa salaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaah
Ansaari

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum ALL!

Diehard,

You don't have to use such language! Get this: the whole world could go together to have "suspecions" about you...at the end of the day---you'd STILL be who you're! You're simply who you're...regardless what cyber-creatures tell you!

If Ansaari is someone who suspects about everybody...it only harms him---to civilize with others. I used to have a neighbor who suspected about everybody---close her doors...stay in the house...be very watchful at the streets. It was only her who lived this pain of "suspecting"...while others just lived normally! So, who got harmed? "habar walba...jambalkeeday ku socotaa"---so nobody is feeding nobody! :-)


...forgive me for butting in!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Ansaari

Unrecorded Date
Axmed

Runta dad ayeey ka naxisaa. Aniga runta & wixii laabteeyda ku jirey ayaan sheegay. Waxna ma qariyo Axmedoow, dadna meel cidla ah ma ka nabsado.

Axadkan kale ee Diehard ahi muxuu igu galay?
Because I told him the truth in somewhere else in ISLAM section. Ciil & Qaraar ayaa haya. I'm sorry for you/him!.

Waxaad rabtid i dheh. Sida Ansaari wuu shakiyaa & naag daris la ahey waay shakin jirtey & bla bla bala iwm, balse "The truth" ayaa dadka kala leexisa la iskuna karhaa.

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum dhamaantiin!

Ansaari,


SUNNI...macno buu leeyahay---sida SHIICO u leedahay macno---labadoodaba hadii la fasiro, labadoodaba...waxay noqonayaan wax wanaagsan. Anigu fasiraad meesha kuma hayo---hadii ay "SUNNI" tahay in Qur`aankana lagu dhaqmo...Nebigana la adeeco---CID KASTA OO ISLAM AH...waa "SUNNI." This game is old, my Brother! Sunni is a sect---the sect who OPPOSSED Ali Ibn Abu Talib. Suni is the sect who CHOSE Yazid Ibn Muawiyah(an evil guy whom his father left the legacy for him TO DESTROY Islam...which he did) over Hussayn Ibn Ali. Sunni is the sect which, over the centuries, severly attacked those who sided with Ali(SHIICADA)...and brutally tried to terminate them out of existence. FOR THESE reasons and more, I would never declare myself as being "sunni". Just opposing these things...is automatically making me non-sunni. Sidoo kale...there are MANY other reasons which I would never declare myself as being "shiico." Same with that! This is why...i'm just MUSLIM---following the Qur`an and the sunnada Nebiga...wixii Kitaabka waafaqsan.


NABSIYADA: USAMA!

...aynu bal dhagaysano...waxaan iri---iyo WAXAAD adiga ka tiri.

---Waxaan iri: ""Anything that we know in our minds, I hate Satan the most. After that, I hate those who forge lie against God. This person that you're reffering to is one of those."

Did I say anywhere in that that he's not Muslim??? SOME Muslims go to hell...because they forged lies against God---with what their low-life desires. This does not make anybody KUFFAR! When one believes that "God is ONE...and Muhammad(pbuh) is a Prophet and last Prophet of His"...one automatically becomes Muslim. After this, whatever else he does---INCLUDING forging lies against God is sin(some forgivable...some unforgivable)

...adigana waxaad tiri: "waxaad tiri Usama waa gaal"...when i didn't say that. You should listen to what people TELL you...and stay out of their hearts(to try and think what they "mean")

---waxaan iri: " His money is in Wall Street, making hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars by the minute. And we all know what Wall Street is based on: INTEREST. And this guy wants to stop corruption??? Ask about his family! Shouldn't you jihad with those, FIRST???"

First of all, there is no American NEWS-MAGAZINE(tv or no tv) that would say that. If they did, their society would say "THEN GET HIM!"...but I got this from a news-paper from Egypt...whom MUSLIMS are in charge of. They condemn him...and the saudi government the same. And, Ansaari, this doesn't make anybody "Kuffar"...but despicable!


---Waxaan iri: "Usama, ALONG with alot of Arabs, just hate the Jews(WHICH by the way has NOTHING to do with Islam...but existed BEFORE Islam)."

It is true---it existed BEFORE Islam. They disputed with the Prophets of God(Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, John, etc)...because they were "Yehuds." They have AMERICA(the worst enemy against Islam) in their houses(saudi, egypt, etc)...and yet they try to make Israel the ONLY enemy of Islam. Somehow, that doesn't work for me! Unbeliever...is unbeliever---period! May he be somali, arab, or yehud.

Once again, Ansaari, this does not make anybody NON-MUSLIM. Try to GET that! I'm not a fanatic who is out there to make Muslims "UNBELIEVERS". There are Muslim...bad and good ones. To say I said Usama is KUFFAR would be despicable of me---and to say that I did...when I didn't is something you will only find with God!


NABSIYADA: About DAROOD!


I said: "But, then again, Somalis always sorta tried to be bind with Arabs. Siad Barre, who HIS ancestor Darood came through Hebrew-Syrian(his father Hebrew, and his mother Syrian"arab")"

Did I say "JEWS"(Yehud) anywhere in that??? Or I said HEBREW? To me, the two are DIFFERENT! Jews are NOT just a race. A Russian can be a "JEW" as Ethiopian can be "JEW"...yes, there was Hebrew jews...and there are even some today. BUT, that doesn't make them "JEWS"(genetically).

For example: An Arab maybe a MUSLIM or a Christian...or a JEW(like some Moroccans)!

To buy their lies that "Hebrew" is "JEWISH" is a bunch of crap. I used to go to school with a Hebrew-Muslim(whom somalis thought was "arab")


I SAID: "I have seen some somalis who put line-age from Darood to the Prophet(Pbuh)---which make me laugh...really bad(SINCE...the prophet didn't have linage!)"

It's true...I have seen this with my own two eyes.

Ansaari, the SYRIANS(themselves) do not claim such ridiculeous thing. They do NOT! They know that they have nothing to do with Muhammad(pbuh)...genetically.


Waxaan ka hadlaynay...meesha qabiil ka yimid---ma`aynaan ka hadlayn hadii Nebiga la dhaho waa walaalkeen in ISLAM. Qofka markuu yiraahdo...MUSLIM baan ahay...buu Muhammad(iyo dhamaan inta kale oo muslimiinta ah) walaalo la noqonayaa. Lets not play the pschology game, shall we? :-)


NABSIYADA: ABOUT JIHAD IN SOMALIA!

Waxaan iri: " there IS a Jihad in somalia. These tribes that are killing each other---are shedding blood in our land, for a ridicelous reasons. They're killing one another while saying "laa ilaaha ilaa-Lah". THIS is what you need to Jihad against."

Waxaa la yiri: "nin gurigiisii dab ku kacsan yahay, reero kale dabkood ma damsho." Jihad is step-by-step...until you come to none."


MAKING peace, Ansaari, IS jihad. Also, when Muslims go to Somalia to make peace between them...if one does not take the peace, the Qur`an tells us to fight against that one. THIS is Jihad.

God says: "49.9 If two parties among the Believers fall into a fight, make ye peace between them: but if one of them transgresses beyond bounds against the other then fight ye (all) against the one that transgresses until it complies with the command of Allah; but if it complies then make peace between them with justice and be fair: for Allah loves those who are fair (and just)." THIS is the approach I'm in for...Not to go over and slay all the people!


NEBSIYADA: Masjidul Al-Aqsa!

I said: " Anaga, hadii runta la-rabo, ISLAAM hadaan nahay...Micno maanta wayn nooguma fadhiyo---sababtoo ah...qiblana inooma aha...Xajna inooma aha."

MICNO wayn nooguma fadhiyo---iyo FAA`IIDO malaha...waa labo kala duwan, walaalkiis. Aniga waxaan ka hadlayay...Masajidkan sida "Xaram" ama "QIBLAH"...laakiin faa'ido malahan...waxay masaajidkii ka dhigaysaa...wax aan waxba ahayn. ANIGANA taas ma dhihin. Hadii Israel xukunto wadanka uu ku yaalo---it's no different than that of Masjidul Al-juma(in Nairobi) where unbelievers rule. LAAKIIN, hadii uu ahaan lahaa Xaram ama Qiblo...wa'ay ahaan lahayd wax wayn oo aan ka dhigno wax wayn. Fahan meesha aan ka hadlayo!


Ansaari, Ansaari, Ansaari. Walaalkiis, dadka maqal waxay dhahaan---adigoo isku dayin inaad QALBIGOODA ogaatid. Ninbaa waxaa lagu cadaabay sababtoo ah wuxuu dilay nin leh "laa ilaha ilallah"...sababtoo ah wuxuu isku dayay inuu qalbigiisa ogaado---kan wax dilay maskaxdiisuu wuxuu ka arkay inuu ninkan hada gaalka ahaa oo hada yiri "laa ilaha ilallah" uu been sheegayo...oo naftiisa inuu furto kaliya u dhahayo.


As for you and Diehard, I don't see the problem, sorry! You suspected him---who the heck cares? I don't think he should care---it's simply YOUR view and understanding! There is no point insulting each other. You're who you're---and Diehard is who he is. It's childish to go nutts about what somebody else thinks of you! You can tell people what IS...without bad-mouthing them! Once again, sorry for butting in!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Ansari

Unrecorded Date
Axmed weli waad isla quman tahay. Nacnacda dadka la dhaaf!. Qofkii khaldama & qofkii dadkawax kale usheega waa in laga qabto oo loo sheego qaladkiisa. (Adiguna waxaad tahay lama SAXE Axmed)

Waryaa yaa ku yaqaana ADIGA? yaa qof ka yaqaan halkan? qof walbana wuxuu qoraa lagu yaqaanaa ha samaadaan ama ha xumaadaanba. Qoraaladaada ayaan aqaan oo kaliya, waana kuwaas & kuwa kale oo badan kuwa shakiga keenaya marka aan si clear ah wax loo oran ama wax la is-dhaafsiiyo.

Buugaag baas ayaa lagu soo siiyay, taariikhaha aad daldaleysidna wax ka jira malahan.

== Waxaad meel kale soo dhigtay mowduucan: "Fanaaniinta cusub oo somaliyeed...way ka daadsan tahay!" Xagga fanaaniinta heeso cusub la'aan ayaa kaga cabatay.

..Hayee firqadaadu heesaha ma fasaxday?

Illaaheey (swt) wuxuu inoo siiyay dhegaha (maqalka) in wax san ku dhegeeysano (dikriga) oo kaliya ee inooma siin musig & heeso!

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Tbone99

Unrecorded Date
Aslamu Laykum


Dear brother Ahmed:

Qouting from what you have said:

"Illaaheey (swt) wuxuu inoo siiyay dhegaha (maqalka) in wax san ku dhegeeysano (dikriga) oo kaliya ee inooma siin musig & heeso!"

Bro, so are you saying all sort of music is Haram tottaly or some? If that is so...

Can you profide me with some evidence from the Quran or Hadithz. I would appreciate bro.


P.S. I really admire you bro. I like the way you teaching and helping others. I have read some of your work around here. Keep up the good work and JazakAllah Khayran!


Walaykum wasalaam

Your brother in Islam,

Abdinasir

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Calaykum dhamaantiin!

Ansaari,

Walaalkiis, waxaa jira labo kala duwan---in qofka wax loo sheego(la saxo) iyo la NABSADO. Adigu mida dambe baad aad ugu dheeraysaa. Runtii, walaalkiis, aniga siduu af ilaah kuu siiyay buu anigana ii siiyay---wixii aad igu nabsato...waan iska celinayaa...adiguna adiga umbay ku dhibaysaa maalin aanan iskaa celis aanan u baahnayn!

As for my "dates" being wrong, Ansaari...why don't you provide me with the "dates" that are right? You don't have to attack people...teach them what you know---and leave that which you do not know.

As for the Music and Singing---it's part of that what "hadiths" prohibit instead of the Qur`an. Qur`an is a complete book---and God did not leave it to 'Abu Hurayrah' or 'the prophet' to fill that for him. He told us what is not lawful to us in the Qur`an...He also told us what is NOT lawful to us in the Qur`an. And, please, Ansaari, don't forget...Music and Singing were the same the days the Qur`an was revealed. Some of the best Oldie songs in Arabia...were pre-Islam. And God would prohibit them...if he wanted to prohibit them. There are two sides to every coin...Music and Singing have a very bad side(nakedness, pornotic verses, against-islam, etc) but that doesn't mean all of it is bad. It's NOT!

"wax san inaan ku dhagaysano"---some music have the best things anyone could say...so there goes your argument.

As for "firqadayda" thinking its allowed, did I not tell you that i'm not part of any sect? Or maybe you don't like to believe what others tell you, huh? Wanna try to have a peek in my heart? LOL!


Discussionkaan waxaan ku furay su'aal----instead of personally attacking me...you can answer it. Islam is tolerance and peace, Ansaari...and, by God, both cannot be found with you(at least, so far)! So, please, instead of "Suspecting" everything anybody writes...why don't you be your own...and try to participate with peaceful way? I do not intend to squirel over the internet...nor do i find intriguing to have to talk to you with your suspicious attitute. However, since we're all here to learn/understand/share...why don't you contribute something that is helpful to everyone?


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum ALL!

Abdinasir,

Music and singing are not made prohibited in the Qur`an. After the prophet has been dead for 200 years, some people said that the "prophet said Music and Singing are haram."

They forgot that the Prophet could NOT prohibit what is not prohibited in the Qur`an? God says places in the Qur`an..."don't prohibit yourselves that which is lawful to you"...Nations before us have done that, and they got punished for it, severly.

The only hadiths that I take or believe...are those that which agrees with the Qur`an...or says that which is not harmful---and will not get me in trouble with God. I believe with all my heart...that there are many good hadiths in Islam, but I also believe that there are many that have been fabricated against the Prophet.


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Muslim

Unrecorded Date
Asalaamu Caleykum

Dadka meeshaan ka hadlaya waxaan jeclaan lahaa inaan idin waydiiyo hal su'aal. Markaad wax ku doodaysaan ma niyadiina ayaad ka doodeysaan mise wax nusuusta ku saabsan ayaad ka doodeysaan. Waxaan oran lahaa kuwiina ra'yiga ku saleynaya waxba ha is daalinina Islaamka meel cad oo aan shaki cidna ka galeynin ayuu heesaha iyo music-ga ka istaagay. Marka cidii cilmi u leh ha ka hadasho cidii fikrad ama malo ku socota meesha waxay doonto ha ka sheegto laakiin ha iska ilaaliso wax Alle xaaraantimeeyay inaad adinka xalaaleysaan. Ninka leh quraanka heesaha laguma xaaraantimeyn waxaad ii sheegtay cilmi daro inay ku hayso oo aad tahay nin ka hadlay fikrad balse aan hubsan nusuusta quraanka. Hadii ay jiraan cid rabta inay si diiniyan u munaaqashooto rabtana inay mas'alada maxaligeeda dhigto ha keento xujada ay ku saleynayaan aniguna waxaan hayaa aayaad quraani ah oo shaaca ka qaadaya waxa aad ka doodeysana. Axaadiista ku soo aroortay way badan yihiin waxaa rajeynayaa inaan la munaaqasheeyo cida rajeynaysa inay si dhab ah u ogaadaan xaaraantimeynta heesaha ka bidna in la raaco wixi nusuus oo dhab ah oo la hor dhigo.


To: Ahmed

Walaal waxaan doonayaa inaan arrin aad ku sambariiraxatay aan wax yar ka dhawaaqiyo xaqeedana mariyo laakiin ma doonaya inaan personality kuu weeraro mana ahi nin ku leh xumaan ayaad ku jirtaa laakiin arrin aad kor ku qortay ayaan ka naxay. Marka aad leedahay Sunni iyo Shiico waa sects, ogow inay taa khalad tahay Islaamkuna uu mid yahay waana kii uu nabiga iyo afarta Khulafo ay ka tageen cidii khilaaftana aysan noqoneyn qayb (sect) islaam ah balse ay ka baxayaan islaanimada oo ay gaalo cad ku soo baxayaan. Waxaad ku baraarugtaa in gaalada ay diinta Islaamka yiraahdaan waa labo sects ama labo qeybood dad badan oo Islaam ahina ay fikradaas ka dhaadhiciyeen laakiin Islaamka dhabta ah waa hal wixii ka soo harana ay yihiin firaq dhunsan taasina ay ku cadahay axaadiis badan iyo ayaad quraan ah oo badan. Habada marka aad leedahay Sunni ama Shiico ma raacsani ogoow labadaba hadii ay wadadii Muxamed khilaafaan inay sect muslimiin aheyn laakiin ay yihiin kuwo ka baxsan magac Islaamka haba sheegteen hadey rabaan. Sunni waa magac raacsan wadadii rasuulka cidii diidana ayaadaa og magaceey la bexayso. Nabiga ayaa yiri "WAMAN LAM YARQHIB CAN SUNATII FALEYSA MINEE" Erayga Sunni waxaa badanaa laga wadaa AHLU SUNNAH WAL JAMAACA ama MANHAJU SALAFU SAALIX labadaas erayood oo taabacsan wadadii rasuulka ayuu erayga sunni ka tarjumaa. Hadii aad leedahay kuwaas ma raacsani oo shiico ayaan raacsanahay iyadana waa sheeko kale laakiin iska ilaali inaad tiraahdi suni ma ahi maxaa yeelay waxaa la yiri "MAN SHADDA SHADDA FI NAAR" oo ah cidii kali noqota naarta ayey kali ku noqotaa saasna ayaa waxaa loo raaciyay "FA'INA YADALAAHI HIYAL JAMAACA" Adigu waxaa laga yaabaa inaad is leedahay qolo gaar ah yaan laguu arkin laakiin aad dambi ku dhacdo. Mida kale, waxba ha ka oran dagaaladii iyo finooyinkii ka dhacay asxaabada qarnigooda ayagoo nool ayaa waxay go'aamiyeen in ay afkooda ka badbaadiyaan maadaama uu Ilaahey ka badbaadiyay dhiigooda, anagana kaba daran oo hadal inoogama banaana.
Wixii khalad ah iga raali ahoow,
WABILAAHI TOWFIIQ

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Yaska

Unrecorded Date
Salaamu Calaykum Yaa Ikhwatul filislaam,

TO Ahmad-Gaal;

After short maintaince break due to my server connection, now I am back on the air!!
You Wrote: "why are you shifting the discussion to somewhere it doesn't belong? the discussion was which of the Qur`an and hadiths prohibit things in Islam...I said it was the Qur`an"

Halkan waxaan u malaynayaa in aaynaan defintion of qur'an and hadiths aynaan isku raacsanayn? waa maxay Qur'aan? waa se maxay Hadith?.

Waxan aad ka hadlaysid ma aha wax cusub, Qarnigii 16aad, 17aad, 18aad , 19aad waxaa ay culimadda kiristaanku aad u sawir madow oo foolxun ka bixin jireen taariikhda nabi muhamed(s.c.w), meesha qura ee ay DOODOODDA ku salayn jireen waxay ahay in aanu Xadith-tu run ahayn oo been la iska abuurtay tahay.!!!! Maxay sababtaa u sameynayeen?
Qur'aanku waa SHarci, Manhaj lagu socdo, Sunadda Nabi muhamed (s.c.w) waa Tadbiikhii shareecadda. Mana u qaadan kartid sidaad doontid, mana u fahmi kartid sidaad doonto, mana u fasiran kartid sidaad rabtid, ILAA SIDII NABI MUHAMED (s.c.w) UU fasiray, fahmay, sharciyeeey mooyaa.

Qur'aanka wuxuu Yidhi: "Wa aqiimu Salaata" Orod oo adigu hadaba Salaada oog?ileyn Nabi muhamed ayaa na baray sida loo oogee 2,4,4,3,4. Qur'aanku wuxuu Yidhi: "Wa ataa u sakaata" How?,Qur'aanku Sidoo kale wuxuu yidhi:"Wa jaahiduu fi Sabiili laahi" How?Qur'aanku wuxuu yidhi:"Wamaa Aataakumu Rasuulu Fakhuduuhu, wamaa NAHAAKUM canhu fantahuu".
Qur'aanku waxaa ku yidhi:"Walow taqawala calaynaa, Laqadacnaa minhul watiin." Qur'aanku wuxuu yidhi"Wa arsalnaa rasuul LI YUBAYINA aayaati laahi".

What is the concept behind sending the prophets..If every one can translate/undersatand ALLAH's word his own way? waxaan kalaa ku waydiinayaa waa maxay xiriirka u dhexeeya Sunnadda Nabi Muhamed (s.c.w) iyo qur'aanka? Su'aalahan uma baahna in ayno iminka Imam Ghazaali iyo Ibnu Taymiha uga dabatagno, iyagaa Xaqoodii siiyey, Wajazaahumulaahi Khayral jazaa!

In aad Figraddo "Islamic War Propaganda" aad haysid, waxaa kuu cadayn kara arimahan aad u soo dhuundhuumanaydid, Xag kale hadii aan kaa tuso masaladda, waxay Garbiyiintu isku dayeen in ay dhaleeceeyaan diinta islaamka isla markaan kala saaraan XUKUNKA IYO ISLAAMKA!!.

Waxayaabahii ugu horeeyey ee aay ku duuleen waxay ahaayeen in XUKUNKA IYO RISLAADDA Nabi Mohamed (s.c.w) kala duwan tahay!!!!! Rasuulka Xaq uma laha in uu wuxuu doono xukumo!!!!!, xaqa xukunkana waa loo siman yahay!!!!!! waxaas iyo wax la mid ah ayey shubi jireen, LAAKIIN "Faqad xasxasal xaqu Wasahiqal BAADILU, Inal baadilu kaana Sahuuqa"""" Waana Figradihii Gaswatul Figrigii ay Garbiyiintu Islaamka ula yimaadeen.....because of what?!!!! Raxmaanka ayaa 7 samood korkooda ka soo jaawabay"" Li yudilu Can Sabiili Laahi"""".

AHmad Baadari,or "Father-Ahmad" or what ever they called you: Xadaaradda Islaamku way ka qani santahay in waxyaabahaas iyo wax la mid ahiba wax ka qaadaan, so why you live in Past??? You want ignore the present?.

Anigu Sunni Ma ahi?shiia and sunni waa sects!! Islaamka ma sida Kiristaankaad Mooday?ereyga sect yaase isticmaala???do you think every thing you have there is applicable to Islam too???

Ma maqashay "A ducaatul Abwaabil Jahannama"?

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Calaykum dhamaantiin!


Muslim,

Walaalkiis, aayad leh "mustiko iyo heeso waa xaaraan" majirto. Aayadaha ku saabsan sheydaanka---ogow...shaydaanka dadka SALAADA buu ugu imaadaa, sidoo kale! Walaalkiis, hadii aad ii keentay aayad xarimaysa musiga(ILAYN Music wuxuu jiray islam ka hore...) markaas, insha Allah, waxaan u aqoonsanaanayaa music inuu yahay wax dambi ah! Qamri, doofaar, dhiig, sino...waxaan oo dhan way jireen. Musigna wuu jiray...sida intaas u jirtay---hadii Alle xarimay...waan qaadanayaa!

Midaan ah "suni iyo shiico"---walaalkiis, labaduba waa "firqo". Markii Muawiyah iyo Cali Binu Abi Daalib isku qabsadeen booska "khalifnimada"---dadka "suniga" ah waxay raaceen Muawiyah...dadka "shiicada" ahna waxay raaceen Cali(meesha dhan oo suni iyo shiico ka bilaabatay---intii intaan ka horaysay...dadku waxay ahaayeen "muslims" oo kaliya.) Aniga marka---in kasta oo aan labadaba ay jiraan wax yaabo badan oo aan ku raacsanahay...hadana waxaa jira wax yaabo badan oo aanan ku raacsanayn!

Diinta Islamku...magac aan ISLAM ahayn malaha---diimahaan magaca leh "Judaism" "Christianity" etc...waxa dhibka qofka ka arki karo waa magaca.


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!*>.<*

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum ALL!


Yaska,

You know, every time you talk---the people realize what you really are. What do you think the meaning of "firqa" inay tahay??? Miyaysan ahayn "SECT"????? If there is no sects in Islam---why is there "suni, wahabia, shia, suffis, etc"???

Prophet Muhammad(Pbuh) as any other Prophet---was sent to warn mankind that which they were in. Some brought revelations---while others were given clear miracles and signs that proved to mankind that they were really prophets. He, Muhammad(pbuh), was a deliver of the Qur`an to mankind---a God-chosen creature...whom all of his career was to bring salvation to men; a Quran. A Quran---a book that re-established that which man walked upon...and distorted.

I never said that ALL hadiths are not true---but I say there are alot of hadiths that are fabricated. LETS START with you, would you believe a shia hadith...that contradicts your sect's hadith? the logic answer would be no---which is exactly my point! You CAN choose which and which is not a true hadith---because of the Qur`an. A clear book...that is not errorous. Do you ever wonder why the Hadiths are repeated--one after another...in the same hadith with different people...which tell different story? If one line is fabricated---so is the whole hadith!

Is it a logic that the most "authentic" book (BUKHARI) was written 200 years after the prophet's death? With so many "I heard a woman say...she heard from her father that he heard his friend say he...heard it from the prophet"??? Islam is logic---a true path to God, with CLEAR way and Books and Prophets!

Nebi Muhammad nama barin sida loo oogo salaad---horteyn baa dadku oogi jireen. Nebi muhammad wuxuu ina tusay SIDA saxda ah(waqtiyada, sida loo weyseesto, dhinaca loo tukado, etc)...dhamaana qur`aanka bay ku jiraan---ma`aha wax "hadiths" nabarayaan. This lets me know how much "you're learned"---"the fatwa giver"...I do not know why people must proclaim things that they're not!

Why do I live in the past? BECAUSE it's where you went wrong---where I WENT wrong...and to correct it, one must GO BACK! Everything that is "astrayed" or "lost" today...is because people ignoring their pasts. Islam is the past(it began with ADAM...the first creature that walked upon the earth)...while it's present(all of us today) and it's the future(those who will come...certuries later, probably)! The biggest mistake that has today in Judaism/Christianity...is that they're correcting the present---instead of correcting where their mistaken fore-fathers went wrong! So, Yaska...you can ignore the past! ALL of the answers of today's most troubling questions...is at the past---GO GET IT!


You can never give an out-right answer, can you? WHO prohibits things in Islam? QUR`AAN or HADITHS! Your Islam depends on that, either you ignore it---or face it! And, whichever you choose, it won't benefit me---nor will it harm me! Untill then, please stop making ridiculeous statements that only show the world---how "much you know" :-)


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Ansaari

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Asalaamun Calaa Man Itabacal Hudaa!

Tbone99!

Walaal horey ayaa arrinkan looga dooday halkan ISLAM, bal booqo oo arag mowduuca la yiraa: "Hees ma qalbi qaboojisaa mise qalbi huriso".

Walaal hees muusig wadata waa LAHWI, waana camal Sheydaan.

Aqri Suuradda LUQMAAN aayada 6aad
(Waminan naasa man yashtari LAHWAl xadithi liyuthilla can sabiilil-laahi bi qeyri cilmin…..illaa akhiri aayah) macnaheedu yahay: "Dadka waxaa kimid ah mid gata hadalo tororog ah (yacnii miyuusig, heeso iwm) si ugu dhumiyo (dadka kale) Jidka alle cilmi la'aan….illaa & dhamaadka ayada".

Walaal heestu wa aay banaantahay, haddii aaysan musig (sawaxan qalab) wadan, wax san oo kheyr lehna bandhigeyso.

Heesaha soomaaliga & heesaha kale ee maanta dunida jira maxey ku saleysan yihiin, ulajeedadooduna maxeey tahay? Niman & naago isla jira oo wada heesaya!, maxayse ku heesayaan wax san mise wax shar leh. Adiguba qiimee heesahaas bal wax aay qalbigaaga "spiritual" ahaan u kordhineyso & ineey duleynayso.

Gabaygu asna wuu banaan yahay, haddii uusan dulmi & fusuq & wax xun dabada ku wadan. Rasuulku (scw) wuxuu yiri Inamal Shicri Xikmah! Gabayga xikma ayaa ku jirta, waana goorma? Waa goortii uu ku sifooba wanaag.

FG. Bal dhageyso cajaladaha Shiikh 100 soon raximahullaah ee ka hadlaya heesaha & waxaay diintu ka qabto.


Wa salaam

Ansaari

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Ansaari

Unrecorded Date
Asalaamun Calaa Man Itabacal Hudaa!

Ahmed

Heesaha xunxun ee (LAHWIGA) ah waxaa sheegeysa oo daliil u ah Ayadan:

Aqri Suuradda LUQMAAN aayada 6aad
(Waminan naasa man yashtari LAHWAl xadithi liyuthilla can sabiilil-laahi bi qeyri cilmin…..illaa akhiri aayah) macnaheedu yahay: "Dadka waxaa kimid ah mid gata hadalo tororog ah (yacnii miyuusig, heeso iwm) si ugu dhumiyo (dadka kale) Jidka alle cilmi la'aan….illaa & dhamaadka
ayada".

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum ALL!

Ansaari,

LOL! Aayadu waxay lee dahay..."hadalo toroog ah"---Walaalkiis, POETRY is 'hadalo toroog ah,' too...and you seem to favor Poetry. Hadalka torooga ah...WAA HADAL(xumaan kara...samaana kara) To say "yacni miyuusig iwm" waa been Alle laga oogayo(hadii aad adiga fasirtay...iyo hadii cid kale fasirtay ba)!

MUSIC---waa qalab iyo hadal isku jira...AAWAY meesha Alle ku lee yahay "Music iyo Singing" siduu ugu yiri..."SWINE, WINE, USURY, BLOOD, What has peen mentioned any other name than that of God," etc---God could say "SINGING" why did he say "frivolous discourse"---and we all know...talk can be singing, poetry, etc---and not just singing, as you'd like us to believe. If God wanted to prohibit MUSIC and SINGING---He'd say "MUSIC AND SINGING" because BOTH of the words...were active and used...in the world when the Qur`an was revealed. To say "the hadiths tell us and explain it to us" is saying "God did not have enough words to explain"--and God, my friend, have ALL the words anyone can utter(or can't utter)---He's simply all knowing.

The verse you qouted is:

"[31.6] And of men is he who takes instead frivolous discourse to lead astray from Allah's path without knowledge, and to take it for a mockery; these shall have an abasing chastisement." LUQMAN!

ALSO, everything that the Nations before us used(out of ignorance) and needed to be prohibited---God prohibited them IN the Quran, PLAINLY and CLEARLY! Everything on earth...is lawful, until God makes it unlawful!

Children of Israel did this before us---where they prohibited good things to themselves...and when the Torah was revealed, God prohibited them to all that they prohibited. And this was punishments for trangressing against GOOD and what God had provided for them!

When one listens to Yusuf Islam---when becomes MORE closer to God and bears witness that which is good! A whole CDs...which are nothing but praisings of God and his religion---such is that which God DID NOT prohibit. And anybody who says so---is nothing more than those before them...lost , a far lost!

I'm not favoring all Music---because there are music which makes you feel sick...just looking or listening. An un-hijabed women...who do nothing but deserve the wrath of their Lord...and music that brings evil to one's heart---all these are not good Music. But, that doesn't mean the whole music is bad---it's not!

Every token has its two sides---and this is for everything in life...everthing that is a man-made. A good side to it, and a bad side to it. And that is because---life is two paths...while life itself is one.

ISLAM is one---one way...One God...One Law! EVERYTHING in Islam is ONE! Everything else---must be something that agrees with it---if not, it's not islam. The latin word "ISLAM" means "unchangeable"...Islam is really that---it does not change. People, from Adam and Eve and until now, generations after generations, tried to add to it---but it never happened. It was still "FOLLOW GOD, AND HIM ALONE"---the covenant that was made with Noah's people, and then with Abraham, and then with Muhammad---STILL remained the same message "FOLLOW GOD, AND HIM ALONE". Is there any confusion in that---yet so many generations lost...or did they just ignored it...or what? I KNOW NOT!

...sorry for writting so much!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Zakariya

Unrecorded Date
Asalaamu Caleykum

To: Ahmed

Waxaad ii sheegtay inaad tahay nin raba dood laakiin aanan dooneynin nusuusta xaarantimaysay heesaha iyo muusiga. Ha noqon nin aaminsan yaan lagaa hadal badin ee marka wax xaqa laguu sheego raac oo Alle u bowbad keen. Marka aad leedahay ii sheeg aayad xaaraantimeynaysa heesaha iyo muusiga, waxaa ka fiicnaan leheyd inaad dhehdo i tusa waxay diinta ka qabto arrinkaan. Waxaa jira waxyaalo badan oo Alle ka aamusay laakiin nabiga xaaraantimeeyay, taasi micneheeda waxaa weeyey; waxaa jira waxyaalo badan oo aayaad quraani ah aysan ku soo dagin laakiin uu Nabiga (scw) axaadiis ku xaaraantimeeyay ama ku xalaaleeyay waxaana ogaataa inuusan nabiga waligiis ku hadlin waxaanan WAXYI aheyn marka hadalkiisa oo dhan ayaaba ahaa wax Alle ka raali ahaa oo wuxuu yiraahdo dhan walba ha ahaatee qasab lagu yahay in la raaco. Ilaahey ayaa u qiray oo yiri "WAMAA YANDIQU CANI HAWAA, IN HUWA ILLAA WAXYUN YUUXAA" waxaa kaloo Alle inagu amray inaan raacno wixii uu la yimid iyo inaan ka dheeraano wixii uu na faray in laga dheeraado waxaa sidaas cadeynaya quraanka. Waxaa kaloo jira waxyaalo badan oo uusan quraanka ka hadlin balse axaadiis lagu sheegay kuwaasna lagu qasban yahay in la raaco marka kuuma haboona inaad tiraahdo quraanka laguma xaaraantimeynin heesaha laakin aad tiraahdo nusuus xaaraantimeynaysa ma jirtaa. Hadaadan igu raacaneyn arrimaha aan sheegayo bal isku day inaad keento aayadka ma aramaya inaan suubino arrimahaas soo socda, in maalin iyo habeen shan salaadood la tukado iyo waqtiyada la kala tukanayo, in ninkii sinaysta asagoo reer leh dhagax lagu dilo, inaan cuni karno xalaalna noo yahay kaluunka bada ku jira midka nool iyo kan dhintayba, qaabka la isaga daahiriyo janaabada/xadka, qaabka loo xajiyo, qaabka loo tayamumaysto, qaabka loo tukado, iyo kuwo kale aan soo koobi karin. Marka waxaa haboon in quraanka iyo xadiiska aan lakala wadin ee lawada raaco isku sina loo tix galiyo.

Mida kale, quraanka aad leedahay keena miyaad luuqadiisa u dhalatay, ma jaamacad ayaad uga soo baxday mise waad carabiyeynaysaa. Quraanka kaa musjiso waxaana jira aayaad aan ilaa hadal micnahooda la garaneynin. Cidii fasirtay say u fasirtay ayaa loo raacayaa cidii khilaaftana ayada ayaa ku fitnoobaysa oo qof aan asaga aheyn dhib uguma jiro. Waxaa quraanka ka mid ah aayaad uu nabiga garan waayay micnahooda uu waydiiyay jabriil, jabriilna u fasiray nabiga marka xageed jootaa adigoo CAJAM ah. Waxaad ogaataa in asxabadii oo joogta ay rag gaar ah quraanka fasirkiisa loogu tagi jiray lana waydiin jiray micnaha aayad iyo waxa laga fahmayo oo meesha ku jira. Aayada luqmaan ku jirta oo aad leedahay heesho ma sheegayso ee hadal tororog ah ayaa laga wadaa, waxaas waa hadal aad adiga iska dhaadhicisay. Dhageso waxay yiraahdeen asxaabadii, iyo salafkii ka dambeeyay iyo mufasiriinta quraanka. Ibn kathiir wuxuu yiri markuu ka hadlayay fasirka aayada luqmaan ku jirta. "WAMINA NAASI MAN YASHTARII LAHWAL XADIISI...." Cabdulaahi bin mascuud ayaa la waydiiyay wuxuuna ku jawaabay waxaa loola jeedaa heesaha. Riwaayad kale ayaa sheegaysa in la waydiiday cabdulaahi bin mascuud wuxuu ku dhaartay in laga wado heesaha wuxuuna ku celceliyay sadex jeer hadalkaas. waxaa qoraya tafsiir ibn kathiir ka baar hadaad doontid. Waxaa xadiis ku soo arooray in cabdulaahi ibn mascuud uu yiri "ma jirto aayad aanan meeshay ku soo dagtay iyo sababtay u soo dagtay aanan aqoon." Marka waxaan u maleynayaa inuu asaga inaga yaqaan micnaha aayada iyo wiliba sababta ay u soo dagtay. Waxaa kaloo aaminsan in LAHWAL XADIIS laga wado heesaha raga ay ka midka yihiin ragaan: CABDULAAHI IBN MASCUUD, CABDULAAHI IBN CABAAS, JAABIR, CIKRAMAH, SACIID BIN JUBEYR, IYO MUJAAHID. Ragaas waxay ku fasireen heesaha in loola jeedo marka dooda aana cilmiga ku dhisneyn iska daa oo xaqa raac marka lagu xusuusiyo. Waxaa kaloo jira nuusuusyo iyo axaadiis tusaysa in heesuhu xaaraan yihiin laakiin maadaama aad codsatay aayad quraan ah oo uuu qalbigaa axaadiistii ka shakiyay ama ku xasili waayay ayaan aayadaas kaliya daliisha ku soo koobayaa.

ILAAHEY HA INAGA DHIGO KUWA MARKEY HADALKA MAQLAAN KIISA WANAAGSAN RAACA.

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ansaari

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Asalaamun Calaa Man Itabacal Hudaa!

Ku: Axmed!

Nin qancis u baahan ma tihid ee waxaad tahay nin khurunimo wata. Ee waxaad tahay malahan illaa kuffaar mooyee.

Go to you free-minds animals, who have sent you!

U cann't fool us, unbelieveer!

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama calaykum dhamaantiin!


Zakariya,


Walaalkiis, muran marabo---taas weeye waxa aniga iyo dadkaan aan isku haysano. Hadii wax lagugu qabsado---waa inaad keentid daliil...hadii waxa ay yihiin wax daliil leh. Dadka personal attacks bay ba ka bixi la`yihiin...maxay 'daliil' keenaan?

Walaalkiis aniga ma`aaminsani in Nebiga uu xaarantameeyay---waxaan Alle xaarantamayn. WIXII Alle u waxyoodayna...waa KITAABKA. Nebi Muxammad(scw)...wixii loo naxyoodo wuu qori jirey...sababtoo ah---waxay ahayd Qur`aanka. "AQRI....AQRI MAGACA EEBAHAA" baa ugu horeeyay wax loo naxyoodo---ayadana maanta waan heysanaa!

Walaalkiis, "wadaadadaan" aad soo tirisay...waa wadaado---dad diinta bartey. LAAKIIN, ogow...Rabbi Hillel nin ka mid ah nimanka dadka Yehuda ah ka dhumiyay diintooda...wuxuu ahaa nin diinta bartey. Maanta dadkii Yehuda ahaa---way lunsan yihiin...sababtoo ah waxay raaceen "wadaadadoodii" oo ku yiri "maya...Tauratka(torah) wuxuu u baahan yahay...fasirkeena" Waxay ku fasireena...Alle waxba kuma lahayn! Saint Paul, asxaabi Nebi Ciise, waa ninka bur-buriyay wax kasta oo diintii Islaamka ahayd oo Ciise u soo ban dhigtay Ummada dunida---ankee meelahii Nebi Muhammad lagu magacaabay inuu yahay Nebi imaanaya. Maanta diintaan Christianity ah...oo ayada oo dhan la badalay---waa wax asaga iyo raactidiisii ka dambeeyeen!

Arag diinteena Islamka maanta---inta firqo oo ay tahay...waxaas oo dhan waxaa sameeyay---"wadaado" bartay diinta. Firqo kasta waxay si indho-la`aan ah u raacday "wadaadadoodii"

"ILAAHEY HA INAGA DHIGO KUWA MARKEY HADALKA MAQLAAN KIISA WANAAGSAN RAACA." Aamiin!


Ansaari,

"khancis"??? Aayaatka Rabigay baa i qanciya, Ansaari! "Kuffaar"??? HAHAAHAHAH! Why can't I help...but remember the ignorant Arabs who called the Prophet of God "Kuffaar"---because he asked them to "worship God, and Him alone"

No, Ansaari...I BELONG here! So, don't waste your breath!

"fool you"??? NAH...'fooling' has been done to you for all your life---I couldn't add to it, trust me! :-)


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!*>.<*

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Nur

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Ilaahay wuxuu soo dejiyey diin, waxayna diintu tahay amar ka yimid Ilaahay (swt) loona soo dhiibay nabi Muxammed (scw), waxaana arintaa loogu magac daraa WAXYI. Hadaba waxyigu imisa qaab ayuu u yimid? ma Qur'aanka oo keliyaa? qaabab kalena ma ay jiraan?

Qur'aanku waa qaabka ugu weyn waxyiga mudnaanta horena iska leh, waxaase jira qaabab kale ee waxyigu leeyahay, waana; hadalada nabi Maxammed, ficilada nabi Maxamed iyo qaab kale oo la magac baxay Xadiisul Qudsi oo ah hadal Ilaahay toos ugu hadlay oo nabiga lagu soo dejiyey Qur,aankana aan ka mid ahayn. Qaababkaas waxyiyeed oo dhana waxaa lagu sheegay daliilna u ah Qur'aanka kariimka "MAA YANDHIQU CANIL HAWAA INHUWA ILAA WAXYUN YUUXAA" macnaheeduna yahay nabigu iskiis isagama hadlo ee marwalba waxa uu ku hadlaa waxyi loo waxyoonayo, waana Ilaahay xikmadiisa in sheekada iyo ficilka nabiga laga dhigay waxyi si sahlan iyo aragti iyo ku dayashaba lagu fahmi karo. taas macnaheedu wuxuu yahay nabiga Qur'aanka keliya looma waxyoon jirin. nabiguna wax ma qori jirin mana akhrin jirin Axmadoow hadalkaaga ah


"Nebi Muxammad(scw)...wixii loo naxyoodo wuu qori jirey...sababtoo ah---waxay ahayd Qur`aanka"
WAA QALAD WAADNA KA NOQON KARTAA

Waa ay jiraan Axaadiith laga sameeyey nabiga (csw) waxaana la yiraahdaa axaadiis daciif ah, mawduuc ah iwm, waxaana jira laan cilmiyeed ku takhasusta kala saarida iyo kala shaandheynta axaadiista (musdalaxul xadiis), hadii aad dood ka qabtid xadiisyada sida loo kala saaro taasi waa mawduuc kale dood u gaar ahna u baahan, balse sharci ka qaadashada waxay ku xiran tahay in la hubsado in xadiisku saxiix yahay kumana xirna in ay kuula muuqato in uu aayad ka soo horjeedo, arintaasi waxay ku xiran tahay qof walba cilmiga uu u leeyahay luqada carabiga, luqada carabigu la mid ma aha luqadaha kale sida Soomaaliga ama ingriisiga.
Hadalkaaga ah;

"The only hadiths that I take or believe...are those that which agrees with the Qur`an"
waxaan ka iri:

Ofcourse the sahiih hadith will always agree with the Qur'an, because they both came from the same source, the only question is how we gauge it? Is it up to your understanding? Or perhabs to your liking? You give the impression of pick and choose, and what qualification do you need to gauge that?

Siduu Zakariye sheegayba Qur'aanku wuxuu ku soo degay luqada carabiga ah, mana fahmi karo qof aanan si fiican u garanayn luqada carabiga ah. Luqada carabigu waxay leedahay 12 laan cilmiyeed oo aan anigu ka maqlay naxwe, sarfi, balaaqah, curuud iyo mandhiq, carabtii hore uma aysan baahnayn, culumadii islaamkana waa ay wada barteen kuna xeeldheeraadeen intaysan wax fasirin, Axmadow anigu ingriiskana u malayn maayo in uu af-Soomaaliga ka guda weyn yahay si loogu fasiro quraanka oo ah (JAWAAMICUL KALIM). Heerka aqoonta luqadaada carabiga ah ayaadna ku kala saari kartaa ayaado qur'aan oo kuugu muuqan kara in ay iska hor imaanayaan ayagoon iskaba hor imaanayn. Xadiis kuugu muuqday in uu aayad ka hor yimidna waa la mid.

Ilaahay wuxuu yiri:

"INAA JACALNAAHU QUR'ANAN CARABIYAN LACALAHUM YAFQAHOON"

Waxaan ka dhignay Qur'aan carabi ah si ay u fahmaan, Kalimada ah YAFQAHOON waxaan af Soomaaliga ku fasiray in ay tahay fahmid sababtoo ah uma hayo kalmad u dhiganta YAFQAHOON, runtiina fahmid oo carabiga lagu yiraahdo "yafhamoon" la mid ma aha YAFQAHOON macnaheedu waa fahmid, aad u fahmid, hoos u fahmid, aad u dhiraandhirin, aad u kala dhigdhigid, aad ugu xeeldheeraasho oo hal kelmad kuwada jirta.

Waxaa kaloo wax xaaraameyn kara hadaladii afarta khulafo oo nabiga ka danbeeyey, nabiga ayaana si cad xadiis saxiix ah ugu sheegay in hadaladooda toos loo qaato, Ilaahay ayaana qur'aanka ku sheegay in nabiga hadalkiisu yahay waxyi Ilaahay soo dejiyey (eeg aayada kor ku qoran)


hadaba su'aashaada ah

" WHO prohibits things in Islam? QUR`AAN or HADITHS"

In direct answer to that: Both Qur'an and hadith, the authenticated hadith, are an integral and complementary part of Wahyi (revelation) and wahyi prohibts and allows things in Islam.

Thanks

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum dhamaantiin!

Nur,

Walaalkiis, mahadsanid---taas waxay ahayd...mid aad u wanaagsan. Si cad---oo sida aad aaminsan tahay ah baad wax iigu sheegtay!

Aniga, Axmad ahaan...markaan maqlo "waxyi" wuxuu ii yahay...kan quraanka---Xadiisul Qudusna wuxuu ii yahay wax Alle u sheegay Nebiga. Marka, waa runtaa...qaladka anaa sameeyay!

Sidoo kale, waxa Nebiga loo soo waxyooday---waa wax Qur`aanka ku raacsan...ma`aha wax ka gedisan. Wax xadiis qudsi lagu xaarantimeeyayna...waa wax qur`aanka lagu xaarantimeeyay!

Ma aaminsani in afarta Khaliif ay wax xarimi kareen---sorry, I DON'T! Waxaan aaminsanahay inay ahaayeen...Imamo Islam ahaa...oo diinta Islamka wax ku maamulay(not...inay wax iska xarimeen...qur`aanka uusan xarimin!)

Xadiis saxiix ah? Walaalkiis, xadiis saxiix u ah Shiicada...wuxuu yahay daciif Suniga dhexdiisa...vise-versa. SO, what is the point?

Walaalkiis, there is no liking/not liking---but with the Qur`an as a proof. It depends who you TRUST, as a source(translator, commenter, etc)!

If the "daciif" hadiths are known to be FALSE---or FABRICATED...then why do people have in their books of hadith???? I don't get that! You see, to me, if there is a hadith that is daciif in a book---and it's still in that book, that hadith book is suspectable. Same with the Torah, Bible, Psalms, etc---they have fabrications in them...which makes the whole book...untrustable---EXCEPT that which agrees with the Qur`an.


And, Nur, Brother, God made the Qur`an in plain Arabic SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND. If it all needed scholars to understand, imagine where we'd be today!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Ansaari

Unrecorded Date
Axmed!

Wax Ma Maqle!.

Argumentkaadu waa dhaciif.

Balse maalin aan maanta aheyn ayaad ka shaleeyn doontaa.

Waxyaalo badan ayaa isaga kaa qasan, in laguu faa'iideeyana ma rabtid, haddii daliil lagu tusayna maku qanceysid. Weli wixii ayaad la soo taagan tahay.

Ullajeedadaadu wax kasta ha ahaato, balse waxaad tahay halkaa ayaa laga aqrisan karaa.

Gaalada hubka kaliya ee aay maanta Islaam ku dili karto waxaa ka mid ah in aay diinta Taswiish uga furaan, una soo diraan kuwa laga yaabo iney isla qoonkooda yihiin.

Qoomamkaas Islaamka loo soo diro waxyaalaha aay ku doodaan waxaa ka mid ah in aay la yimaadaan wax aan horey loo maqal & Khilaaf Sunnada Rasuulka.

http://www.geocities.com/~abdulwahid/muslimarticles/cons_submitters.html

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fowzi

Unrecorded Date
To Anzaari

Salaamu calaykum walaal
labadan beri oo dambe waxaan sifiican ula socday dooda adiga iyo ninkan idin dhexmaraysa taasina waad kumahadsantahay fikrada buuxda ee aad naga siisay inkastuu aanu soomali dagi karayn sikastuu muslim iyo soomli usheeganayo

Aniguse rayigayga waxaan filayaa ninkani inuu yahay shiici ama shiico waayo iyagaan rumaysnayn waxbadan oo xadiisyada kamida ama dhamaanba axaadiista rasuulka laga weriyey ee dadkeena sunaha ahi haysano

markaa walaal ugua dig ninkani inuu yahay nin shiiciya umada iyo walaaleheena somalida ah ee muslimka ah

_To ninka isugu yeedhay Ahmed

waar miyaadan maqal aaayadahaa eebe rasuulkiisa kaga hadlayo ee uu leeyahay MAAYANDIQU CANILHAWAA INHUWA ILAA WAXYUN YUUXAA
waar miyaadan mayaqal
LAQAD KAANA LAKUM FII RASUULILAAHI USWATUN XASANA

markaa walaaalo intaadan cay iyo aflagaado naga mutaysan noogabax dadkayaga cudurkanaad lawareegaysana umada kala fogoow hadii kale

waa kulacanaydaynaa cinwaanana waaa kufurayna layskaga kaaa ilaalinayo

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Yaska

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Salaamu Calaykum Yaa Ikhwatul filislaam;

To Ahmad-Gaal;

Hello AHMAD-Gaal! free minder!!!!,submiter!!what else you call your self?

you wrote: "You can never give an out-right answer, can you? WHO prohibits things in Islam? QUR`AAN or HADITHS! Your Islam depends on that, either you ignore it---or face it!!!!... "My islma depends on this question?!!! who said so ? Ahmad-gaal!!! you must be kiding !!!!To answer your question I addressed you couple of times WHat is Hadith?or What can be called Hadith?Who gives authority to call "some thing" Hadith?????

WHo make lawful in Islam? right !! just opposite of your question, THe One who can make lawful can prohibet things as well!!!!! Not Sounds LOGIC!yeh!!, A+B=C, but B+A=X? in the case you have strong left-side brain.

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Asad2

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Asalaamu calaykum waraxmatulaahi.

salaanta islaamka kadib waxaan rabaa inaan kalimaad halkaan ka iraahdo walaalaha islaamkaa ee meshaan dooda isku daafsanaya intii ilaah iga karaansiiyo.

ugu horeyn waxaan walaalaha usheegi lahaa inaysan diintu ahayn qof ra'yigiis ama maxay kula tahay Ee ay tahay nas iyo daliilcad qofkii aan wax kuqaadanayna ay asaga dhibayso. walaalaha meeshaan kujira qaarkood kheyr allaha siiyee way dadaaalayaan balse dadaalkii waxaad moodaa in caradoodu katanbadisay marka waxaan ugu nasteexayn lahaa inaysan xad gudbin laakiin ay xaqa waa fajiyaan intii ilaahayn kagaransiiyo.

Go'gol dhacaas kadib waxaan jelaan ahaa Ahmed inaan wax yar usheego gaar ahaan.
walaal sidaan mawduucaaga ka akhriyay waxaad tiri shaqsi ayaa waxaa lagu cadaabay inuu dilay qof dhahaya LAA ILAAHA IL LALAAH.kadibna lagu naaray. waxaan filayaa inaadan sifiican ufahmin meeshaas maxaa yeelay asaxaabi ayuu ahaa nabiga ayaana kuyiri sideed yeelaysaa hadii aakhiro ay kuu timaado laa ilaaha ila laah. maahayne nabigu (scw) muusan dhihin waa lagu cadaabaa. waxaad akhrin kartaa Aayada kujirta nisaa oo kahadlaysa arintaan ( yaa ayuha´ladiina Aamanuu idaa Darabtum fiisabiili laahi fatabayanuu walaa taquuluu liman alqaa ilaykumu salaama lasta muuminan) waxaan filayaa inaad sixidoontid qaladkaaga.

Mida axaadiista waxaan jiclaan lahaa inaan wax kaa iraahdo laakiin waqtiga ayaa igu yar waxaanse filayaa inaan markale dhamaystiri doono Insha allah.

yaaska. walaal waxaan kaaga nasteexaynayaa qof kudhahaya muslim ayaan ahay inaadan dhihin gaal ayaa tahay hadii uu qaldan yahayna dadka kale oo walaalahaa ah ugadig laakiin asaga ha ugu yeerin gaal.

Allaah(SWT) hanagu hanuuniyoo wadada saxan.

Ahmed hadii aad u aragtid inaan wax qalad ah ku iri waa ila soo socodsiinkartaa.

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Nur

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Waad salaaman tihiin walaalayaal

Axmed waxaadan kala cadeynin in xadiiska nabiga ka sugnaaday oo la cadeeyey saxiix inuu yahay "authenticated hadith" in aad aaminsan tahay in uu waxyi yahay iyo in kale, waxaa kaloo aadan cadaynin in aad dood ka qabtid qalabka loo isticmaalo kala shaandheynta axaadiista, sababtoo ah cilmiga "musdalaxul xadiis" la magac baxay ma aha mid ku xiran sunni iyo shiico ee waa qalab lagu kala saaro axaadiista "sanadkooda" iyo ragii soo weriyeyba, hadii aad leedahay dood ayaan cilmigaas siduu u shaqeeyo laf ahaantiisa ka qabaa waa dood cusub inaad cadaysana loo baahan yahay, hadii aadan aqoonina, sidaan dhadhansaday anigoo khaldanaan kara, in aad weydiiso ay haboon tahay, balse haku gaabsanin in aad tiraahdo oo keliya

"xadiis saxiix u ah Shiicada...wuxuu yahay daciif Suniga dhexdiisa...vise-versa. SO, what is the point?"

Axmed ma ogtahay in xadiisul qudsiga iyo axaadista kaleba musdalaxul xadiis loo isticmaalo? Sababtoo ah waxaanan kala fahmin labadaada hadal ee kala ah

"xadiis saxiix u ah Shiicada...wuxuu yahay daciif Suniga dhexdiisa...vise-versa. SO, what is the point?"

Iyo midka ah

"Wax xadiis qudsi lagu xaarantimeeyayna...waa wax qur`aanka lagu xaarantimeeyay!"


Sabata ah in xadiis daciif ah uu kutubada qaarkood ku jiro, waa xikmada ikhtiyaariga ah ee diinta islaamku ku dhaqanto, iyo in goob cad lagu kala saaro xadiiska daciifka ah iyo midka saxiixa ah, kutubtaasuna ma yiraahdaan wax walboo ku qoran qaata daciifba ha ahaadee ee waxay tilmaamaan midka saxiixa ah si loogu dhaqmo iyo midka daciifka ah si aan loogu dhaqmin. Kutubta axaadiista saxiixa ah oo keliya lagu aruuriyeyna sida "Bukhaari iyo Muslim" kuma ay jiraan axaadiis daciif ah. Hadaan arintan ku sii dheeraan lahaana waxaanan kala ogeyn in aad dood ka qabtid cilmiga "musdalaxul xadiis" iyo in aadan aqoon sida uu u shaqeeyo waxaanse jeclaan lahaa in aad ii kala cadaysid si aan ugu tala galo, hadalkaasi duritaan igama aha ee waxay iga tahay kala cadeysi.

Hadalkaaga ah

"God made the Qur`an in plain Arabic SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND If it all needed scholars to understand, imagine where we'd be today!"

waxaan ka oran lahaa

Axmadow ii kala fasir labadan aayadood ee soo socota

"WAMAA RABUKA BIDALAAMIN LIL CABIID"

Iyo mida ah

"INALLAAHA LAA YADLIMU NAASA SHAY'AN"

Ogowna quraanku isma khilaafo.

Waad mahadsan tihiin dhamaan

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Diehard

Unrecorded Date
Just one word to YAska ... YOU have gone too far calling Ahmed GAAL, someone who You have never meet personally and the only thing YOu have seen is his writing, please dont come to conclution

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Yaska

Unrecorded Date
Salaamu calaykum Yaa Ikhwatul fil Islaam,

TO Diehard;

Thanx for your consideration, Mind you Islam has a known territory and well defined borders too, It isn't limitless nor infenity territory. If one exist the border of the islam , WHat you call your self.?

The term Kaafir, It isn't easy word, and to apply to someone is even much harder, but it exist as border checkpoint !!!!

He wrote: "Salaada Sida aad u tukataan uma tukado, Salaadda Qur'aanka ayaa ibaray sida loo oogo, ee Nabi Muhamed (s.c.w) ima barin,Suni ma ahi= Nabi Muhamed (s.c.w) wax uun baa loo soo dhiibay, intaa wax kabadan, ama wax lagaga daydo ma jiraa. Qur'aanka ayaa is fasira looma baahana fasiraadda nabi muhamed(s.c.w),Dadku qof walba waa xor in uu siduu doono u fahmo ereyadda ilaahay Nabi Muhamed(s.c.w) loogama baahna in uu fasfasiro oo siduu ISAGU u arko/u fahmo anaga noogu sheego,.......etc.

What You call this person Mr Diehard? free-minder?Gaal?Muslim?X?.

Bye the way Why you defending Ahmad-Gaal?, If there are something "we" said wrongly but he is correct then please share with us.
Is it neccessary to meet face to face to known someone he isn't muslim?What is difference between what he is and what he writes?Haven't you heard the capitalism login which says "You are What you drive, or You are what you wear...." or the Imperialism login which says " You are WHat you speak". Do you think he is just joking with us? or Yuo don't believe what he is writing at all?


We are in Information society, where the meaning of distance isn't anymore the factor which effects our social live, old education and mentality of past isn't anymore relevant the functionality and the laws of this new age.

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Ahmad

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Asalama Calaykum dhamaantiin!

Nur, Asad, Fowzi, Hadii Alle idmo, anigaa maqaalo kale soo qori doono wiiga dhamaadkiisa!

Yaska---a question: so, anybody who is not sunni is Kuffar? are they? really? `Cause every other sect---prays, differently!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Asad2

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Asalaamu calaykum waraxmatulaahi.

waxaa laga yaabaa inaysan indhahaygu qabanin waxyaabaha yaasiin uu kasheegayo Ahmed inuu qoray laakiin hadii ay jiraan waxaan Ahmed kuwaani lahaa inuu ilaahay utoobad keeno maxaa yeelay waxyaabaha qaarkood waxay keenayaan inuu qofku diinta kabaxo sida inuu qofku beeneeyo aayad qur'aan ah iyo wixii lamid ah.

marka waxaan filayaa inaad sixi doontid qaladaadkaaga, waxaan kaloo kugula talinayaa inaad diinta baratid ilaa xad oodan waa maqlay ama saas ayaa lala haa aysan kaa noqon.

tankale waxaa la ii sheegay inay shiicadu ayagoo salaad kujira hadii tusaale ahaan taleefan soo dhoco inay kajawaabayaan, tankale oo meesha kujirta waxaa jira waxyaabo horey xalaal u ahaa kadibna laxaaraameeyay ama lanasakhay, kuwaas oo wali dadka qaarkood ay isticmaalaan.

mida nasakhaada waxaa daliil u ah aayda qur'aanka ah oo kujirta suuratul baqara ( maanan sakh min aayatin aw nunsihaa nati bikhayrin minhaa aw mithlihaa) waxaan rajaynaayaa inaad qaladaadkaaga sixidoontin, hana ufahmin inaan shaqsi ahaan kuu maagayo laakiin waxaan ahay walaal kaanaxaaya oo kula jecel xaqa waxaana ilaah kabaryayaa inuu nawaafajiyo dariiqa saxdaa. Aamiin

sababta aan saas uyeelayo waxay tahay diinteena suuban ayaa waxay qabtaa shaqsi walaalkaa ah inaad xaqa usheegtid nabiga (scw) wuxuu baliquu canii waloow aayah)

Intaas ayaan kugaabsanaa maanta hadii wax su'aal ahna aad kaqabtid waa ii soo qori kartaa.

Asalaamu calaykum

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Ansaari

Unrecorded Date
Ahmed

Su'aalaha lagu weeydiiyey kamaba aad jawaabinee xaggeed u kacday?

Ma library & buugaag aad wax kasoo guuris ayaad doontey?

Sheegitaanka sida aad salaada u tukatid, ma beryo ama saacado ayeey kugu qaadatey?

Waxaan u maleynayey in aad 5 min. ku sheegi kartidee!

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Diehard

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To yaska
salaam aleykum!
First thanks for your polite respomse, I have been monitoring this arguiment that was flaming in this forums Quite a while, I personaly dont want to side with any side , but the person who started who started all this, dont enjoy any support from my side. I even doubt if he's of sound mind, because he tend to suspect every being that do not support his view, some of You may find his claim to be reasonable, but i personnaly i suspect the source of the claim itself,
DEAR yaska for me its hard to call someone Telling you he's is a muslim and with a muslim name a" Gaal"
i dont have the liberty of Answering religious Question or taking in religious discussion but to use my little knowledge I believe whoever says the SHAHADDA, laa ILLAH ILA ALLAH MUXAMAD RASULULAH" is a muslim
TO me if Ahmed says that, in my eyes he's a muslim!

THIS question is to Ahmed>
Do you believe that their no GOD but ALLAH and Mohamed is the is last messanger of GOD?

IF you ANSWER YES!

YOU are my brother; ina mal mu,minuna iqwa!

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum ALL!

Ansaari,

I already told you---WHEN I pray(From the Qur`an)...and I told you that I pray similar to Sunnis with the exceptions of a few places(ie. Prayers for Abraham, etc)...I also told you HOW many times I pray a day(please see the post *Salat in the Qur`an*)! I also told you what the theme of my prayer was! by those thing, you should have a pretty picture of my salat! You wanted DETAILS! And to do this; I must give it a whole time...just to it...from A-to-Z!

I'm really bussy---and come here quick for the last couple of days(it's holidays here...and work is PAIN in the butt...because it must be done!) And since I don't celebrate thanksgiving---it's logic that it should fall on me...and by choice, of course!

If God wills, I will write the whole prayers of mine friday night/saturday!

Don't be silly, Ansaari---you know i'm always here when I have a time. This is the ONLY place I spend so much time at; because it's my people! I don't meet many somalis, but here I have the chance to inter-act with them...even if we don't agree on things! Don't be impatient, Ansaari! The patient ones always get the best! If I die before I tell you "DETAILS" of my prayers, it'd not left-out anything...since you really know my side of praying, already. However, i'm still willing to write it, for your sake and the sake of the argument; so bear with me, okay?


Die Hard,

I said more than ONCE---that I was Muslim and uttered the shahadah, however, some people really don't care that; which i'm not surprised because it's been that way for, oh lets say, centuries! They only see what they want to see---and believe!

I'm Muslim; I belief there is no diety that worths worship but God; and that Muhammad is a Prophet of His; and the last one!

THIS belief makes me Muslim; if I don't observe or belief anything else but that---i'm STILL Muslim. I might become a BAD Muslim....but still Muslim!

Die Hard, if you were following the discussions---then why did you ask me again? I don't understand that, but i'm sure you've your reasons!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Yaska

Unrecorded Date
Salaamu Calaykum Limanitabical Hudaa;

Dear Diehard;

Every thing in Islam have a meaning and purposes. The real question is What does SHAHAADA means? is it just words to say letterally, or Is it something more than that?

THere was once One Great Islamic Scholar who tried to explain the meaning of "IYYAKKA Nacbuddu WA IYYAKKA NASTACIINU" guess what he writes!! more than 35 voluems!!!, The whole world is created for "LAA ILAAHA ILALAAH". It so ammazing some time to think What would be like to view virtually WHat SHAHADAH is all about?.

THere are TAWHIID, CAQIIDDA,IIMAAN,DUTIES, which all contributes the SHAHADAH.

Human being consist of Body, soul(ruux), heart(qalbi), Caqli, which all should beleives and says the SHAHADAHA. every pieces of human body should fellow the SHAHAADDA. not just Tongue, and mouth! No, No.


TO Ahmad-Gaal;

You wrote: "I already told you---WHEN I pray(From the Qur`an)..."... from the qur'an!!!!, You have said once you pray 2-4-4-3-4!!! WHere in Qur'an you found this numbers?

What else do you take from the qur'an BUT not from the SUNNA?Could You explain to me Why not to fellow the SUNNA? While Qur'an says fellow the prophet?

Do you beleive the Whole qur'an or you just beleives part of it?

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Ansaari

Unrecorded Date
Mr. Diehard!...


...glad to see you this time without offending anyone!.

Waxaad tiri: "Whoever says the Shahada is muslim" common! Toos macalinka!, xageed joogtaa?

Waxaa jira kumanaano qabsanaya shahaadada, balse aaysan ka aheyn (daacad) niyyad.

Waxaan ayaan hore arkey naag gaal ah oo ashahaadaneysa, waxaan weeydiiyay: "Ma muslim baad tahay?" waxay tiri:"Maya, ma ahi, balse waan bartey oo waan aqaan". ka warranhee! so, is she muslim just by saying Shahada or what?

Shahaadadu waa weer (a Sentence) qof kastaaba dhihi karo, mana ahan ID-card lagu garto qofka markuu yiraa in uu muslim yahay & inkale...

...Illaa mooyee markuu qofku u qirto si kal & laab ah, lana yimaado wixii acmaala ah ee laxariira ee Alle swt kitaabkiisa nagbaray, Xabiibkana scw na baray, doodna & diidmana ka keenin, So why not, that person is absolutely a muslim bro/sis.

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Nur

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Walaalayaal;

Waxaan jeclaan lahaa in aan si kooban ugu baraarujiyo dhalinta ka qaybgalaysa doodan muhiimka ah,in aysan muhiim ahayn waxna soo gelbinayn eedeynta tooska ah iyo durida shakhsiyeed.

Qof walba oo boggan soo booqda waxa keliya aynu ka naqaano waa aaraa'da uu halkan ku soo qoro, waxaanan xataa kala hubin in aaraa'daasi uu aaminsan yahay iyo in uu sabab kale oo u gaar ah u soo qorayo, waxaase aan anigu u arkaa in ay muhiim tahay qofkii awoodo in uu aa'raada uu taageersan yahayna sheego, kuwa uusan taageersanayna dhaliilo dadkana tuso waxa uu ku dhaliilayo.

Muslinimada iyo gaalnimada qofka halkani ra'yiga ku soo qoraya waa arin runtii asaga ku xiran ayna haboon tahay in laga naxo waxna loogu sheego qaab doodeedka Islaamka ee xikmadeed iyo xujeedba.

Anigu shakhsi ahaan waxba kama qabo in doodani uu ka soo qayb galo nin muslin ah oo kala cadeysi iyo doodba raba iyo nin gaal ah oo ogaansho amaba durid u dan leh.

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Diehard

Unrecorded Date
Asalaam caleykum ALL

TO Ahmed>
you are right you have said more than once, sorry bro, Ihave nothing against You personally, just human error, i have all your articles a gain Ihave seen YOu said it clearly;Thanks

To YASKA>
Shahadda, is a word that is uttered litteraly , that is correct , but do you also know those same words is also the Gateway to islam, the first condition, one has to utter those word to embrace the faith of islam,
the prophet (pbuh) told his as'habas during Jihad not to kill anyone who utter those words,there was time when one of Ashabas kill one enemies after his said LA ILLAHA ILA ALAH> do you know what the prophet replied to him?

TO Ansaari
Hej med dig? det er rigtig hvad du har sagt, men husk alsaa min bror, det er also en betengelse for man blev muslimsk Han eller hun skal sige de same orderne,

To NUr
saaxiib waan ku salaamay,

Run ahantii anigu shaqsi ahaan umalayn mayo qof aan aheyn maryooleey inuu soo booqdo meshan marka
shakika baadan mafiicno,cidii donnayso iin ay ka qayb qaaddado doodo maxaa loo shakinaya

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Gama'did.

Unrecorded Date
To ahmed(Ali).

Naturally I don't rush to judgements as taught in islam. Mohammed our prophet is part of islam. Before him people were either christians or jews or athiests and those who knew nothing about god except shadowy ideas inherited from tradition conversly speaking. And much of what we see today of technological adnvantage and sheer progress was the cause of the MUSLIM SPAIN who even introduced agriculture to europe. Coming to my point is that I read your postings and this is what I get.
1) You consider yourself muslim although you have no respect for the man responsible for islam.
2) You pray as you implied but not the five times muslims pray.
3) you believe in principle that your faith only in god counts and not the prophet of islam since the oneness of god is affirmed by you.
4) You practice from religion what you see fit and easy.
5) You believe you can form your own set of worship since you don't believe in the sayings of the prophet after all they are humanly to you.
My conclusion: You are nothing different than those apostated after the death of the prophet and refused to pay ZAKAT(compare this to your utter apostacy) and were brought back in line by ABUBAKAR. And at last you are misguided by the works of IBLIIS.

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum ALL!

Gama`did,

Maybe you need to GET UP! :-)

Muhammad is not just part of Islam---but Muhammad IS Islam; every prophet, book, etc...are Islam(in my understanding!)

As for having respect for him, I DO. Tell me what would be the use of reading a book(and believing it)...that you don't respect the man who brought it forth??? Sorry, but that makes no sense to me! I respect the Prophet---more than any other mortal that existed on the face of the earth.

I do not idolize him...but I love him; he's the man who leads my daily rituals! I do everything that he brought forth---and how he brought forth!

I don't pray five times??? Well, you certainly seem to be not doing your home-work! Had you "read" my posts...you would know that!

I practise what I see fit and easy? Well, I don't do what I see fit---but I centainly know that this religion is not upon hardship---nor is it floaded with "men"'s words; it's AS EASY AS IT GETS! God tells me so...so many times in the Qur`an!

You said; "you believe in principle that your faith only in god counts and not the prophet of islam since the oneness of god is affirmed by you."HAHAAHAHAHA! LOL! What would be the point of being Muslim...if not having faith in Muhammad(Pbuh)??? It begins with that---"I bear witness that there is no diety which deserves worship but God"...and it also says "...and I bear witness that Muhammad is a Prophet of his!"...So, please, don't make me laugh!

And, for someone who does not "naturally" judge, you seem to be doing pretty good! Welcome to the Club, my friend!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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fatima

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assalaamu caleykum waraxmatullaahi wabarakaatuh.

to: dhamaan walaalahayga diinta rabbi difaacaya.ha ugu horeeyo ANSAARI, iyo YASKA.
ALLAAH HAYDINKA ABAAL MARIYO sida qiimaha leh eeydin ula doodeysaan dadka ku doodaya iney cilmi yaqaanaan ee uu ugu horeeyo ninka isku magacaabey ahmed.waxaanan idinka codsanayaa in aydin dadka u faahfahisaan aayaadka markuu ku fasiro af ingiriisiga. waayo dadka badankoodu uma wada fahmaan ingiriisida sida aydin idinku u fahmeysaan.waan jeclaan lahaa in aan ninkaa idinla jilciyo waqtiga ayaase igu yar, idinkaanse idiinka tegayaa ee cilmigiina rabbi haydiin barakeeyo

TO:ahmed
nin madax adag baad tahay ee rabbi hanaga kaa qabto. ma hadaad u dareyd ood kuwa yidhi ciise waa ina ilaahna tidhi waa ahlul kitaab. ma ogtahay horta in ay quraanka ku taalo" qul huwallahu axad, allahussamad, lam yalid walam yuulad,....". AHLUL kitaabku waa kuwii nabi ciise raacay ee ka aqbaley dhambaalkii uu sidey ee uu rabbigii ka keeney ahaana " qaala innii cabdullahi aataaniyal kitaaba wajacalanii nabiyyaa". ciise isagoo kitaabkan la yimi oo qiraya inuu adoon ilaahay yahay, ayey ka been abuurteen oo marba wax ku sheegeen mar ay yidhaahdaan waa ilaahay iyo mar ay yidhaahdaan waa ilaahey inankiisiiba" subxaanallaahi rabilcarshil cadiim". Maxaadse mar walba noo barbar dhigtaa yuhuuda iyo kiristanka, miyaanad ogeyn in aanu haysano diin ta ugu khayrka badan lagana ictiraafsan yahay ilaahay agtiisa oo ah ISLAAM, taasi oo rabbi qur,aankiisa ku sheegay oo yidhi "innaddiina cindallahil ISLAM".
Miyaanad ogayn in aan qur,aanka lagu wada fasiri karin afafka kale oo dhan, bal hadaad wax taqaan noo cadee in aad qur,aanka ku fahantey afka ilaahay"s.w.t" ku soo dejiyey oo iska daa af qalaadoodka baadarigu kuu soo xarxariiqay!!!!!.
Waxaan ku xasuusinayaa in uu rasuulku "scw" yidhi: mankaana yu,min billahi walyawmil aakhiri falyaqul khayran aw liyasmut". hadii aanad af carabiga fahmin aan kuu jilciyee waxa weeye macnihiisu" qofkii ahaadey mid ilaahay iyo rasuulkiisa rumeeyey haku hadlo khayr ama hayska aamuso. Hadaba anugu ma arko wax khayr ah ood ku hadlayso ee maad iska aamustid, maba istaahishid haba yaraatee in la akhriyo waxaad qortoe.
AAyadana bal si fiican u daris:
"Wayamkuruuna wayamkurullaahu, wallahu khayrul maakiriin". Walee buugaagii wax aan macno kuugu jirin baad ka buuxisey ee allaah ha kuu naxariicto.
ilaahayoow noo gargaar.
AAMIIN, AAMIIN,AAMIIN.

WASALAAMU CALAA MANITTABACAL HUDAA,

<FATIMA>.

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Muslim

Unrecorded Date
Asalaamu Caleykum


Walaalayaal waxaan idinkaga digayaa GAALkan Ahmed la baxay ee iska ilaaliya. Waa ninkii diiday tafsiirkii asxaabada kuwaasoo wiliba ahaa ragii cilmiga ugu horeeyay wiliba tafsiirka quraanka iyadoo uu noolaa nabigana la ogaa inay yihiin raga saxaabada ugu cilmi badan markii uu dhintayna ayaga loo cilmi doonan jiray. Marka ha isku daalinina nankii diida tafsiirka CABDULAAHI IBN CABAAS & CABDULAAHI IBN MASCUUD wuxuu daliishanayaa waxay SHIICO aliftay ayaga ayuuna ka mid yahay. Mida kale, ninkaas wuxuu u shaqeeyo ayaan garan waayay waxaan muslim lid ku aheynba kama doodo marka Ilaahey ka yaaba oo ka aamusa asaga ayaa ka tagi doona meesha.

DADKU WAXAY U QAYBSAMAAN AFAR QEYBOOD

1. Nin wax yaqaan isuna haysta inuu wax yaqaan, kaasi waa caalim ee wax ka barta.
2. Nin wax yaqaan aana isu haysan inuu wax yaqaan, kaasi waa hilmaame ee xusuusiya.
3. Nin aan wax aqoon isuna haysta inuusan wax aqoon, kaasi waa caaqilee wax ka barta
4. Nin aan wax aqoon isuna haysta inuu wax yaqaan, kaasi waa jaahilee ka fagaada.

lumberkee ayuu AHMED kuula muuqdaa?

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Yaska

Unrecorded Date
salaamu calaykun Yaa ahlal iimaan;

Alle Hakaa abaal mariyo, juhdigaaga iyo wakhtiga aad u bixisay Alle diintiisa.

Qof walba isaga ayaa go'aan ka gaari kara arinta, waxaan jeclaan lahaa in ayno Arinka AHMAD-GAAL dadka uga digno oo shartiisa dadka la ogeysiiyo.

Bishii Ramadaan ayaa inagu soo dhow, khayr iyo wanaag oo dhana wadata, una baahan in iyada ayno iminka tawajuheena saarno.

Marka waxaan jeclaan lahaa in olole lagu qaado sidii dadka looga digi lahaa, malafkiisana la soo afjaro sidaa adiguba sheegtay.

Numbberkiisa,!! I vote definitely nro 4.

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C/J

Unrecorded Date
Muslin,

Aaway daliilka dhigaya ninkii diida
"tafsiirka CABDULAAHI IBN CABAAS & CABDULAAHI IBN MASCUUD" in uu gaalyahay?.

C/J

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Yaska

Unrecorded Date
asalaamu calaykum;

TO C/J;
Hadii la diido tafsiirka Cabdulaahi Ibn Cabaas & Cabdulaahi IBn Mascuud, DALIILKA aad raadinayso xageed ka helaysaa?

Hadii qofi yiraahdo ma qaadanayo waxa uu soo fasiray Ibn cabaas or Ibn Mascuud, DALIILKA xageed ka raadinaysaa? another ibn X ?!!!! waxa uu fasiray, iyo waxa uu soo wariyey Maxay ku kala duwan yihiin?

Yaa akhil kariim, QOf aad Jiridda ku kala tagteen, Laamaha ma iskugu iman kartaan? Ibn Cabaas, IBn Hurreyra, Ibn Mascuud, iyo Asxaabadda kaleba waa laamihii, waxa la isku haystaa waa JIRIDDA!!!!!! I mean Qur'anka LAFTIISA!!!!!!!!!!


Let us be realistic and Logic too, Qur'aanka aan Aamainsanahay ee aan haysanaa Ma cirkuu ISAGOO sidatan ah Ka soo DHACAY? MISE ILAAHAY BAA ISAGOO SIDAN U QURUX BADAN NABIGA GACANTA KA SAARAY? SIDUU KU YIMID????????????????????

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Calaykum Waraxmatullah!


Muslim,

War yaa Ilaahay yaqaan---Yaa isku haysta Asxaabada???? Sheekada laysku haysto...waxaa weeye yaa leh "ASXAABTAA SAAS TIRI" iyo ninka leh...ma aamini kartaa!

Fadlan, dadka wax xun caloosha ha u gelinin! "Axmad wuxuu diidan yahay axaadiista" "axmad wuxuu diidan yahay Asxaabta hadaladoodii" "axmad hakadaa"

War ma taqaan diinta Kiristaanka???? yaa Ummadaan wada lumiyay???? Dad baa yiri "Nebi Ciise baa yiri saas iyo saas" uusan dhihin! Muslimiinta waa ay diidaan maantee---taas macnaheedu miyaa inay diidaan wixii Nebi Ciise yiri???? Don't make me laugh!

And since you're giving fatwas, why don't you issue one for yourself??? Who the heck tells people "Muslim" and then dis-proves everything Muslim is???? Muslim is peace; one who has tolerance and patience with others...One who does not judge---except what was Judged for him by his Lord. One who does not play someone he's not! Sorry, but I wanna puke, at the moment!

You're missing that I do not need anybody in my grave to keep away from hell---nor do I need anybody in my grave to get into heaven! So, go ahead...and issue your fatwas! :-)


C/J,

Who said that??? Someone who did a darn job...to keep their evil firm in the hearts of men! People invented every lie you can imagine to draw people farther from their religion; nothing is new!(generations before them did that...who were MUCH more welthier and known---and at the end, they were destroyed but a sudden; now look back and see what was the end of the unjust!)

I have faith...that when the time comes, man will be purified for their rightly path! `Till then, I can only remain sad!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!*>.<*

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Walaalkiin

Unrecorded Date
Nabad iyo Naxariis Ilaahay Korkiina Ha Ahaato

Ahmad walaal adoo mudan ma fasari kartaa ayaadan waxa Ilaahay Ula Jeedo:

"Yaa ayuha Al-ladiina aaminuu adiicu Laaha, wa ADIICU Rasuul wa ulil amri minkun; fa in tanaazactum fii sheeyi FARRUDUU Ila Laahi WA RASUUL lacalakum tuflixuun." [an-Nisa' 4:59]

"Kuwa Muminiita ahow Adeeca oo yeela Ilaahay, oo ADEECA RASUULKIISA iyo kuwa hoggaanka (talada) idiin haya; haddii aad arrin isku qabataanna U SOO CELIYA ILAAHAY IYO RASUULKIISA waxaa laga yaabaa in guulaystaan!"

Translation: Pickthall
"O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end."

Translation: Yusuf Ali
"O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination."

Translation: Shakir
"O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Apostle and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Apostle, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end."

Ilaahayow Noo Naxariiso

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Muslim

Unrecorded Date
Asalaamun Calaa man itabacal Hudaa

C/J

Daliilka dhigaya anigaa kuu hayee dhageyso.

Ilaahey quraanka wuxuu ku yiri wixii rasuulka idiinla yimaado qaata wixii uu idinka reebona ka hara. Aayadaas quraanka ayaa cadeynaysa in wax walba oo uu rasuulka la yimid hadey ahaan leheed hadal, ficil, ama amar inaan raacno wiliba hadii uu maalin meel istaagay inaad istaagtid ayaa haboon oo sunada qabtaa. waxaa jiray rag uu rasuulka ugu duceeyay fahanka diinta iyo fasirka culuumta quraanka. ragaas waxaa ugu horeeya CABDULAAHI IBN CABAAS waxaana taariikhda ku sugan inuu ahaa saxaabigii ducadii rasuulka loo aqbalay oo uu tafsiirka quraanka iyo fahanka cilmiga qof walba uga horeeyay. markii su'aal ku saabsan quraanka ama fasirka ay timaado aan loo tagin caaisha, khaalid, cali bin abii daalib, xamza ee loo tago Cabdulahi ibn cabaas lana waydiiyo fahanka aayadaas iyo micnaha ay wadato. waqtigii asxaabada ayuu ahaa HABRA HAADIHIL UMMAH maantana wuu yahay yuusan jooginee maxaa yeelay cilmigii uu ka tagay ayaa qoran oo ilaa hada lagu intifaacayaa. Mida kale, CABDULAAHI IBN MASCUUD wuxuu ahaa saxaabiga garanaya aayad walba oo quraanka ku jirta meeshay ku soo dagtay, iyo sababta ay u soo dagtay. waxaa kaloo intaas u dheeraa inuu yiri ma jiro qof iga cilmi badan kitaabka ilaahey, nabiga ayaan xadiis ku yiri ninkii raba inuu dhageysto quraanka sidii aaga oo hada soo dagay haka dhagesyo cabdullahi ibn mascuud ama ha ku akhriyo qirada cabdulaahi ibn mascuud. wuxuu ahaa raga ugu cilmi badan xaga quraanka axsaabta dhexdoodana wuxuu ka mid ahaa faqiih iyo xaafid. Marka cidii diida fasirka ragaas iyo tarjamada ay ka bixiyeen quraanka ama axaadiista, basically wuxuu diiday fasirkii nabiga maxaa yeelay waxaa inoo cad inaysan fasirkooda iyo kii nabiga uusan kala duwaneyn marka cidii ka soo horjeesata waxay ka soo horejeysatay tafsiirkii nabiga taasina waxay kuu keenaysaa inaad diidin axaadiista nabiga oo gaalnimo ku dhaxashiisa. dabcan waxaa la ogson yahay inay labadaan saxaabi fasirka ka barteen nabiga kii nabigana ay dadka barayaan ninkii yiraahdana hebel iyo hebel ma rabo fasirkooda wuxuu diday fasirkii nabiga shakina kuma jiro inuu qofkaas gaal yahay madaama uu xadiis inkiray

midka AHMED la baxay, waan ognahay inay nasaarada culumadooda dhumiyeen laakiin ogow islaamka culumo ma raaco ee quraanka iyo sunada ayuu raaca sheekhii taas mid ka duwan keenana daaqada ayuu ka baxayaa. Marka waxaba ka isku dayin inaad tiraahdin saxaabadii nabiga ayaa si khalad wax u fasiray muslimiintana way iska raaceen bal istakaba daaye inay saas suubiyaanee saxaabada ayaa diinta na soo gaarsiisay ayagana ayaa laga dhaxlay fasirkii nabiga iyo tawiilkii quraanka. Saxaabada mid walba wax ayuu diinta u qabtay adigu se inaad afka ku taagtid ma ahee xataa ma ka xishoon wayday.

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Ahmad

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Asalama Calaykum dhamaantiin!

To: Walaalkiin,

Brother, you tell me the tenth following verse of the one you quoted;

"4.69 All who obey Allah and the messenger are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the Sincere (lovers of Truth), the martyrs, and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! How beautiful is there fellowship!" <<<<I wonder who those are! I'm trying to have "sheikh Abdi-Qadir Jeylani" somewhere in there! I must have the wrong MAP! ;D

Ilaahay wuxuu i amray inaan adeeco Ilaahay iyo Nebigiisa(waan adeecaa---sidii xaq igu ah!); inaan adeeco "kuwa talada inoo haya"---I wonder who those are? thinking...hhhhmmmm!


Wasalam Calaykum!

Ahmad!

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Walaalkiin

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Nabad iyo Naxariis Ilaahay Korkiina Ha Ahaato

Ahmad

Walaal waan ku wareeriyay ee raali noqo waxaanse kaa codsanayaa in sida quman ee aqoon korarsigan u socdo aad sii wado. Ogowna anigoon aayada, suno iyo bidco toona oran baa la igu yiri "gaal" sababtoo ah sheeko aan qoray oo tilmaantay "dhar" uu qof xirtay. Waxaanse hubaa Haddii Ilaahay Idmo in aadan "GAAL" ahayn.

Walaal sidaad u tiri "Ilaahay wuxuu i amray inaan adeeco Ilaahay iyo Nebigiisa(waan adeecaa---sidii xaq igu ah!); inaan adeeco "kuwa talada inoo haya"---I wonder who those are? thinking...hhhhmmmm!" ayaan kugu raacsanahay oo aniga waxaaba ii dheeri baadi goobka MAANDEEQ.

Sidaad tiri "hhhhmmmm!" MAANDEEQ meel ma ku sheegi kartaa? Yaa lumiyay MAANDEEQ oo aan ahayn kuwa "hoggaanka ama talada" inaga boobay iyo inteena kale oo sacabka u garaacnay.

Waase mar kale iyo goob kale waxa aynu ka hadalno MAANDEEQ!

Su'aasha aan jeclahay in aad iga shaafiso mar haddii aynu isku raacnay in aan Ilaahay Adeecno, Nebigiisan Adeecno isla markaana aynu ku hungoonay kuwa talada inoo haya waa macnaha qaybta dambe ee Aayadda.

Walaal Ahmadow Ilaahay Muxuu Ula Jeedaa "Fa in tanaazactum fii sheeyi FARRUDUU Ila Laahi WA RASUUL lacalakum tuflixuun." oo aan turjumay "haddii aad arrin isku qabataanna U SOO CELIYA ILAAHAY IYO RASUULKIISA waxaa laga yaabaa in guulaystaan!"

Af Ingiriiskana lagu turjumay saddex si oo kala ah:

"and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end."

"If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination."

"then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Apostle, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end."

Walaal Ahmad qaybtan dambe ee Aayadda sidaa loo turjumay sidee u sharxi lahayd ama u macnayn lahayd. Gaar ahaan ereyada ah "FARRUDUU Ila Laahi WA RASUUL"?

Ahmad mar walba adoo mudan raali noqo oo walaalow dul qaado.

Ilaahayow Noo Naxariiso

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C/J

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Muslin,

Waad ku mahadsantahay sharaxaada dheer aad soo
bandhigtay.

Sxb, wali ma fahmin sababta (xaqa kuu siisay)
in aad ku magacawdo Ahmed gaal, isaga oo kuu sheegay in uu isaga muslim yahay dhawr jeer!.

Teeda kale ma garan meesha aad kala timid jees-jeeskan "DADKU WAXAY U QAYBSAMAAN AFAR QEYBOOD ".
Waxaan filayaa in aad dariishada kala bixi doontid marka laga hadlayo arrimahan.

C/J

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Calaykum!

C/J,

Walaal, xagee joogtaa??? Ma ogid in maanta qof kasta iska dhahayo "Gaal" cidii ka soo hor-baxda???

Fadlan, walaal, iska dhaaf ummadaan; waa ay ku sii dambaajinayaan kaliyah!


Walaalkiin,

Xalay...waxaan kuu qoray jawaab...laakiin saaka markaan imid meesha ma`aysan oolin. Waxaan u malaynayaa inaan ilaaway inaan "Preview" aan hit-gareeyo! Insha Allah, after Salat Jumcah...baan kuu soo qori doonaa maqaal!


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!

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Nur

Unrecorded Date
Walaal Ahmed;

Waxaa jirtay in aan ku weydiiyey su'aalo cadcad markay taariikhdu ahayd 24 kii November 1999, saacaduna ku beegnayd 04:41 galabnimo (eeg kor, By Nur on Wednesday, November 24, 1999 - 04:41 pm:) Wali kama aadan soo jawaabin su'aalahaas kmana aadan noqon mowqifkaagii, su'aalaha sida aan u maleynayo in aad garatayba waxay lahaayeen labo ujeedo;

Tan hore oo ah in aad jawaabtooda ku dareento khaladka ra'yigaaga, qof walbana waa uu khaldami karaa, dibna uga noqoto mowqifkaas, iyo tan labaad oo ah in aadan garanin oo aad u baahan tahay in lagaa jaahil bixiyo.

Haday tan hore waafaqsan tahay ula jeedadaadu waa khayr waxaana haboon in aad cadayso dib uga noqoshada mowqifkaaga, haday tan labaad tahayna waxaa haboon in aad si cad u weydiiso.

Waad mahadsan tahay.

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Ahmad

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Asalama Calaykum!


Nur,

Walaal, iga raali ahoow; runtii waxaan isla lahaa...cid aanan u jawaabin majirto(laakiin bini-adam...waa mid qaldan, marar badan!)


Marka hore, aan hor mariyo...Qur`aanka;


KOWAAD:("WAMAA RABUKA BIDALAAMIN LIL CABIID")

(77.46 Whoever works righteousness benefits his own soul; whoever works evil, it is against his own soul: *nor is thy Lord ever unjust (in the least) to His servants.*)

"Kii shaqaysta wax wanaagsan naftiisay u fiican tahay; kii shaqaysta wax xunna, naftiisay ka soo horjeedaa(dhibaysaa): marna Eebaha kuma xaq gudbo adoomadiisa!" Fusilat, 46!


LABAAD:("INALLAAHA LAA YADLIMU NAASA SHAY'AN")

(10.44 Verily *Allah will not deal unjustly with man in aught*: It is man that wrongs his own soul.)

"Alle kuma dulmiyo dadka waxba; laakiin waa dadka kuwa nafafyaashooda dulmiya!" Yunus 44!

Walaal, Nur, aniga horta marka hore waxaan rabaa inaan kaa codsado---hadii Alle idmo, mustaqbalka, inaad ii sheegtid...meesha aayada ku jirto...amase wada dhamaystirtid aayada!

Mida kale, laba aayadood...isku wax unbay sheegeen!

XATAA...hadii ay isku wax dhihi lahayn, aniga weli waxaan aaminsanahay in Qur`aanku yahay Buug Alle fududeeyay...oo in laguu sii kala tafsiiro u baahnayn! In la sharaxo...oo laguu sheego meeshuu ku soo degey, wuxuu u soo degey, iyo goortuu soo degey---waa ay fiican tahay, laakiin Alle wuxuu inoo sheegay inuu yahay Buugaan...Buug af-carabi fudud...oo la fahmo lagu soo dejiyay!

Qofka hadii uu yahay qof Muslim ah(oo ALLE ka cabsanaya!) wax kasta oo Qur`aanka ku jira...wuu fahmayaa, si wacan!


Mida kale oo ah Xadiisyada, bal ayana;

Walaal, waxaad tiri; "kutubtaasuna ma yiraahdaan wax walboo ku qoran qaata daciifba ha ahaadee ee waxay tilmaamaan midka saxiixa ah si loogu dhaqmo iyo midka daciifka ah si aan loogu dhaqmin."

Hadaba haduuba yahay mid "lagu dhaqmin" muxuu kutubta ugu jiraa??? Miyeynan Xaqu ka cadayn...baadilka??? Maxaaba loo magacaabayaa wax aan SAXIIX ahayn?

Maxay uga duwan tahay...Yehuda og in Kutubka(Torah) oo ay heestaan uu Nebi Muuse qorin...oo hadana weli HAYSTA???

Bal ii faa`iidee, Walaal! Oo ii sheeg sida "saxiix" looga dhigo xadiista...oo Sunniga iyo Shiicadu iskugu aqbalaan! Dhagaheygu way furan yihiin! :-)


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!

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Ahmad

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Asalama calaykum!

To: Walaalkiin;


Walaal, waxaad i waydiisay;

"refer it to Allah and the Apostle," "Faraduu ilallaahi wa rasuul"

Markaan aniga iyo adiga wax isku qabsano---MAR KASTA waxaa horeeya Allah! Markuu Nebiga noolaa, dadku waxay isula tagi jireen Nebiga; Nebigana wuxuu sameen jiray wuxuu u sheegi jirey Jibriil; Jabriilna wuxuu keeni jirey KALA BAXA! Aayad(o) baa soo degi jiray...kala saara!

Maanta, waqti Nebiga nooleen, yaa la`isula tagayaa??? QUR`AANKA!!! Qur`aanka waa sahanka qofka Muslimka ah...noloshaan transitka lagu yahay inta la joogo!

Sidoo kale, waxaa yaala Xadiisyo Nebiga ka tagay; in kasta oo ay mugdi ku jiraan...QUR`AANKA(mar kale) kala saaraya kii *Mugdi* ku jiro iyo kii kale! Ereyga Alle wuu ka wayn yahay...Erey qof kasta oo kale ka yimid(Nebi ba ha`ahaadee!) Asagaana, Qur`aanka, lagu xukumayaa wax kasta oo kale!


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!

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Waryaa

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Salama....

Intaanan u boodin wax yaabaha kale, waxaa idiin sheegayaa brothers, O' my good brothers, intaad dhufees iskugu jirtiin yaa daaqadaha laga soo galin guriga.

Su'aasha oo Ahmed keeney, waligeey ma isweydiin laheen ma'ana isweydiinaayo barina, balse waa su'aal aan hadaa 'broad perspective' siisid ay tahey 'a rumour.'

Ahmed bro, sababtaa aan kuu sheegaaa aniguu labadiina group midna raacsaneen lakiin waxaan difaacayaa Rabigeyga na abuurtey.

Hadii sheekada Quraanka ay meesha imaatey ay taheyna kee saxsan oo "authentic" mise "mandatory" ah Quraanka iyo Xadiiska....anoo hadal iga soo fakan aan "Quraanka" la boodi lahaa...lakiin Xadiisna anooo afkeyga iga soo fakan aa sidaa camal ula boodi lahaa... hadana waan thoroughly waan believe-sanahey!

Aqiyareey waxba ha isdaalinina Quraan iyo Xadiis labo ay kala yihiin, labadoona waa COMPLETE sax ah! Kii diidoow adi ku talaa..kii kalana...waxba ha is daalinin!

No offence, ani hadaba qof aan wax u dhimaa iska yar aan filaa, ka aheyn fikradeyda!

Quite Peace::

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Nur

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Walaal Axmed;

Marka hore waxaan jeclahay in aan kuu sheego sababta aan kuu wediiyey labada aayaadood tafsiirkooda, inkastoon run ahaantii u qabay in aad sababta garan doonto, balse sabatu waxay ahayd in aan kugu dareensiiyo in luqada carabigu tahay luqad balaaran una baahan culuum u gaar ah.

Labada aayadood ayagoo isku wax sheegaya ayaa hadana carabiga sahlan ee korka ahi uu kala sheegayaa sidatan;

DALAAM, macnaheedu waa dulmi badane, aayaduna waxay sheegtay in ilaahay uusan ahayn mid dulmi badane ah.
Aayada labaadna waxa ay sheegtay in uusan Ilaahay waxba dulminin.

Waxay ku kala duwan yihiin in mida hore oo ah DALAAM (siiqa mubaalaqah) ay Ilaahay u diiday in uusan dulmiga badan samaynin , hadaad intaa oo keliya ku ekaatidna waxaad Ilaahay u sugeysaa dulmiga yar, aayada labaad ayaana Ilaahay dulmiga oo dhan u diiday (siiqa nafyi), balse xarafka B da ka horeysa DALAAM ama BIDALAAM ayaa waxaa ku jirta (jumla maxduufah muqadarah, taqdiiruhaa khabar muqadam ay BIDII DULMIN) ama ma ha mid dulmi u saaxiib ah, I trust you follow me.

Aayada labaadna waa ay sii adkeynaysaa macnaha aayada hore.

This “analytic Arabic” ayaad ku kala garan kartaa oo keliyah macnaha aayada, and trust me I am not an expert or even near that domain in analytic Arabic (naxwe, sarfi balaaqah and the other 12 disciplines of analytic Arabic).

Axmed kama aadan jawaabin su’aalaha aasaasiga ahaa sida in aad aaminsan tahay xadiiska in uu saxiix yahay la sugay in uu waxyi yahay iyo in kale, kuna xirnayn fahamkaaga oo keliya, ma aadan qiranin in xadiisul qudsiga aad aaminsan tahay in uu waxyi yahay iyo axaadiista kale ee aadan saa u aaminsanayn in labaduba loo isticmaalo musdalaxul xadiis.

Axaadiista saxiixnimadooda waxaa lagu kala saaraa sida soo socota;

Waxaa la raacaa kala shaandheynta raga sanadka xadiiska ku jira ama soo weriyey ilaa laga gaaro asxaabtii nabiga ka dibna nabiga (csw), waxaana raga ku jira silsilada oo dhana la mariyaa shaandheynta adag ee laga shandheynayo runsheegooda, xalaal quudashadooda, diin ku adkaantooda, iyo arinta loo yaqaano (jarx wa tacliil), axaadiista saxiixa badankooda markii la aruuriyeyna (waagii bukhaari iyo Muslim, ama waagii taabici taabiciyiinta) firqo shiico la magac baxday oo axaadistooda leh ma aysan jirin, haday shiicadu ku raacayso xaqaas iska cadna ayaga ayey jirtaa.

Hadii aan sheeko yar ka sheego sida arinta run sheega oo keliya loo shaandheyn jiray, waxaa jirtay in sheekh axaadiista aruurin jiray loogu sheegay meel bilo loo socdo in uu joogo nin hal xadiis haya, markuu bilo jidka ku soo jiray ayaa wuxuu u yimid ninkii uu rabay in uu xadiiska ka weriyo oo faras uu asaga lahaa gacanta u hoorinayo in ay cunto ku jirto oo kale si uu faraskiisa oon markaas meel ku xirnayn u qabsado (waa arin caadi ah faraskaaga aan kuu dabranayna lagu qabsado) sheekhii waa uu ka laabtay ninkii xadiiska hayey asagoon xadiiskii ka werin wuxuuna yiri nin faras been u sheegay kama aan werin karo xadiis.

Walaal Axmed waa aan ku farxay in ay dhegahaagu furan yihiin, waxaanse ku sii farxi lahaa in ay wax dhegaysanayaan waxna maqlayaan.

Waad mahadsan tahay.

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Walaalkiin

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Nabad iyo Naxariis Ilaahay Korkiina Ha Ahaato

Ramadan Kariim

Ha la soomooy ha la soomo
Bisha Ramadan Sodonkeeda

Ahmad

Walaal raali ahow oo dulqaado su'aalo ayaa kugu hafinay waliba aad moodo in aan kugu goobanay hase yeeshee waa aqoon raadis iyo gaddiisa. Ilaahay baa na faray in aan weydiino wixii aan garan wayno ciddii aqoon u leh "Is'aluu Ahla Dikri Inkuntum Laa Taclamuun."

Walaalow waxaa murugtay sidaan u fahmi lahaa ereyadan ee adoo raali ah ii yara iftiimi. Waxaad tiri oo aad qortay:

"Maanta, waqti Nebiga nooleen, yaa la`isula tagayaa??? QUR`AANKA!!! Qur`aanka waa sahanka qofka Muslimka ah...noloshaan transitka lagu yahay inta la joogo!"

Ma waxaan u qaataa in aad leedahay "Maanta, Waqti Nebiga nooleen," oo uusan Salaawatulahi Calayhi Wa AlSalaam na hor joogin ama na dhex taagnayn waxba kama qaadanayo?

Sababtoo ah waa laga been sheegay oo Axaadiista iyo Sunada waa la khalday?

Haddii hadalku sidaa yahay walaalow miyayna iman karin in la dhaho Qur'aanka dhawr iyo labaatan sano ayuu soo dagayay. Intii uu Nebigeenii Suubanaa (SCW) noolaan lama qorin. Weli Sayidnaa Abubakar iyo Sayadinaa Cumar midna ma qorin ee Sayidnaa Cusmaan Bin Cafaan cahdigiisaa la qoray. Hadaba miyaan FAR lagu godi karin Qur'aanka.

Haddiise aan qaadano Qur'aanka oo la qoray Suubanow Rasuulka (SCW) ka dib maxaan ku diidnaa haddii Saxaabadiisa Ilaahay Ha Ka Raali Noqdee hadalkay ka soo weriyeen Rasuulka (SCW) iyo tilmaanta iyo tusaalaha ay ka soo qaateen ficilkiisii.

Ma wanaag baa Ahmadow walaal "bakhtiga ma cunno fuudkiisaan se cabnaa" wax u eg in aan dhahno.

Sow ma ahayn ducadii Nebi Ibrahim Calayhi Salaam "Ilaahayow dhexdooda ka soo saar Rasuul u akhriya Aayadahaaga oo bara KITAABKA iyo XIKMADDA!"

Sow ma ahan Ilaahay kan Qur'aanka noogu sheegay "Waa Isaga Idiinka Soo dhexsaaray kuwa aan waxba qorin oo aan akhrin (UMMI) Rasuul (Nebi Maxamed SCW) idiin akhriya Aayadahayga oo idin bara KITAABKA iyo XIKMADDA idinkoo markaa ka hor ahaa kuwo lunsan."

[al-Jum`ah 62:2] He it is Who hath sent among the unlettered ones a messenger of their own, to recite unto them His revelations and to make them grow, and to teach them the Scripture and wisdom, though heretofore they were indeed in error manifest."

[al-Baqarah 2:151] Even as We have sent unto you a messenger from among you, who reciteth unto you Our revelations and causeth you to grow, and teacheth you the Scripture and wisdom, and teacheth you that which ye knew not."

Wuxuu idin bari KITAABKA (SCRIPTURE) IYO XIKMAD (WISDOM). Haddii KITAABKU yahay Qur'aanka walaal Ahmad dambigaaga Allah Dhaafee waa maxay XIKMAD (Wisdom) uu Nebi Ibrahim Calayhi Salaam inoogu duceeyay Ilaahayna Ka Aqbal Markuu Nebi Maxamed (SCW) Noo Soo Diray?

Walaalow Ahmad XIKMAD ii macnaa adoo mudan walaaltinimo iyo wanaag oo raali iga ah.

Ha Iloobina Ramadan waa Marti Qaali ah oo sanadkiiba mar na soo booqda ka fara qabsada oo faraqa ka buuxsada Sahay Alle Ka Cabsi Bishan Baraykansan. Hana u daymo la'aan walaalow TAARAAWIIX.

Ilaahayow Noo Naxariiso

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Calaykum dhamaantiin!

To; Walaalkiin/Nur/Waryaa,

Hadii Alle idmo, wiiga dhamaadkiisa(Jimcaha/sabtida) ayaan idiin soo qorayaa maqaalo la xariira maqaaladiina!


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum dhamaantiin!

Horta, Alxamdullilah, sidaan is lahaa...inaan waqti holi doonin ilaa iyo jimcaha, ma dhicin!


NUR,

First, I apologize for writting the wrong numbers for the first verse! I wrote 77:46...when it should've been 41:46! I make many mistakes because usually...i'm against the clock! And with all the discussions; one can only be ONE! :)


About the verses,

Walaalkiis, what are you talking about??? LETS list all the English translation of the verses;

FIRST:

Yusuf Ali: "41.46 Whoever works righteousness benefits his own soul; whoever works evil, it is against his own soul: nor is thy Lord ever unjust (in the least) to His servants."

Pickthall: "41:46 Whoso doeth right it is for his soul, and whoso doeth wrong it is against it. And thy Lord is not at all a tyrant to His slaves."

Shakir: "41:46 Whoever does good, it is for his own soul, and whoever does evil, it is against it; and your Lord is not in the least unjust to the servants."


SECOND:

Pickthall: "[Yunus 10:44] Lo! Allah wrongeth not mankind in aught; but mankind wrong themselves."

Yusuf Ali: "[Yunus 10:44] Verily God will not deal unjustly with man in aught: It is man that wrongs his own soul."

Shakir: "[Yunus 10:44] Surely Allah does not do any injustice to men, but men are unjust to themselves."


Brother, don't forget, these men are men who put SO many years...just to translate the Qur`an into English! Some of them took more than a decade...to just translate the Qur`an!

Now, saying that God is not "in the least" unjust to his servant...means what??? It means NONE! It puriffies him off of any injustice, as God is just to all mankind! I understand IT that way; Maybe you see a different angle of it, but that is what I recieve; GOD IS NOT UNJUST TO MAN!

Nur, lets get real; there are many things in the Qur`an when literally looked at...mean different thing! Like, the word God uses through-out the Qur`an; "WE"(Inaa) did that..."WE" did this! It says WE: meaning TWO...and more! However, we, Muslims don't need a translater to tell us that God is but ONE!

I do not know much of Arabic---but I trust people who translated the Qur`an, since they're "Authorized" to do so by Muslims!

The translators whom I named and quoted above...just translate Arabic to English---they do not explain the verses! YET, what do we get from their translation? When i see the word "daalam" I see "unjust"---"daalamiin" etc! AND, psychologically, and being a Muslim man, I know God is not unjust to anything or anyone! EVERYTHING he does...is just, for he is God...and is the Owner of everything!


Now your second part of the post,

First of all, let tell you that Shi`ism began LONG before the Hadiths! It began with Ali Ibn Abu Talib! When Muawiyah and Ali were over conflict of who is going to be Khalifah, the Muslims splitted into two; part sided with Muawiyah(Sunnis)...and part sided with Ali(shias)! Ali and Muawiyah were against one another a while!

Later, when Muawiyah left his Khalifah to his son Yazid, the other part(SHIAS) wanted Husayn Ibn Ali to be the leader! These were against each other, too...for sometime! It ended with having massacre Husayn and his follower(those who fought!) And later where they massacred is the place parts of the Shia(a wicked side, no doubt) go for a Hajj sorta-like!

It's true that Shi`ism was later constructed into the sect that it is today, but so is Sunni!


Now, about Hadiths,

I believe the existance of Hadiths, no doubt! They're part of the Message; the Oral Message! However, Nur, I also believe that the Oral Message is not held above the Qur`an; I believe the Qur`an is the supreme law in Islam! THUS, the Oral Message must agree with the Qur`an...instead of the Oral Message alone being a supreme over the Qur`an! ALSO, please, don't forget...the Oral Message is corruptable! The scripture is the divine one!

The Oral Message is part of the Qur`an...because it's the words of Allah. Therefore, God tells us that the Qur`an does not contradict itself;

"4.82 Do they not consider the Qurán (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy."

Thus, anything that contradicts the Qur`an is not part of the Qur`an! Meaning, anything that is not forbidden in the Qur`an...cannot be forbidden in the Oral Message!

The Oral Message comes after the Qur`an. When God revealed something in the Qur`an...if the companions didn't understand it, God would reveal an Oral Message EXPLAINING the confussion(if ever!)...thus it ONLY backs up the Qur`an...and should not have it's own supremecy;

"5.101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qurán is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Forbearing.
102. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith."

Jewish scholar Hyam Maccoby, in Judaism on Trial, quotes Rabbi Yehiel ben Joseph: "Further, without the Talmud, we would not be able to understand passages in the Bible...God has handed this authority to the sages and tradition is a necessity as well as scripture. The Sages also made enactments of their own...anyone who does not study the Talmud cannot understand Scripture."

BUT they corrupted it...and Jesus told them that---and condemned it(the Mishnah!) because...people started fabricating hadiths about Moses! AND, just so you know...they used the same way Muslims did! The chain of naratations!

Al-Baani says in one his speaches(from Doha, Qader, in Ramadan of 1392 A.H.); "we are certain that there is no way to understand the Qur'an correctly except in association with the interpretation of the Sunnah." This speach is by the way...printed couple years later!

DO you see any connection between the two religious men? Al-baani and ben Joseph? Because trust me when I tell you---HISTORY repeats itself! We see in the Qur`an...way too many times to understand that!

To say that "there is no way to understand the Qur'an" without the Sunnah...is a HISTORY repeating itself for me; since companions didn't question the Qur`an...every time it was revealed! AND you can trust me when I tell you---not the Oral Message was 18 different volumes! PLUS all the "daciif" ones! No, no, and 1000 times no!

And, yes, Nur, your story was most wonderful! :)

Please, let me know...if I'm wrong about things! And convince otherwise! I, as a Muslim man, must never refuse truth---and I do not differentiate of who it is coming from! Because, the Qur`an is proof to all things...and really does tell you what is and what is not of God!


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad!

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Calaykum!


To: Walaalkiin,

Fadlan, ha iloobin...in aqoonta diinta Islaamka aysan ahayn mid dhamaata! Soomaliya(ilaa mar dambe) diinteedu si kalay ahayd! Hadana...waqtigeedii waxay inoola ekayd inay ahayd tan Islaam ugu wanaagsan! Maanta, soomali badan baa is bedelay...oo suufi iyo waxaas aan ahayn!


Walaal, Qur`aanka---aniga sida aan aaminsanahay...waa buug Alle ka yimid oo Jibriil oo soo waxyooday nebiga...NEBIGANA uu qoray(Zayid, the Scriber) baana u qoray! Qur`aanka wuu isku aad aadiyay oo sidii loogu talagalay buu iskugu xiray! Wuxuuna ka tagay arimo sidii loo daabici lahaa! Cusmaan bini cafwaan wuxuu ka dhigay BUUG!(wuu publish gareeyay, daabacay!) Cismaan Bin Cafwaan wax ba kuma uusan qorin Qur`aanka!

Sidoo kale, afarta nin---mid walba...qur`aankiisa gooni ah buu haystay!(xifdiyaankii ay xifdiyeen aawadiisna...waysku raaceen in Qur`aanku kaamil yahay!)

Walaal, mida kale...aniga waan aaminsanahay nimankii afarta nin ahaa oo "Khuluuful-Rashidiin" la dhaho! Marka Nebiga laga soo tago---waxa kale oo aan aaminsanahay waa afartaas nin(Cumar, Abu Bakar, Cusmaan, iyo Cali!)

Walaalkiis, aniga ma`aaminsani in xadiistoo idil ay yihiin wax been ah! Laakiin waxaan aaminsanahay in qaar been ah ku jiraan! Aniga marka...sida Qur`aanka i barayo---Alle wuxuu inoo dhamaystiray Qur`aanka wixii sharciyeen ah! Sunnada iyo wax kasta oo kalena(xataa taariikh...) waa inay Qur`aanka ku raacdo!

Walaal aayad baad soo qortay;

"62.2 It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a messenger from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to purify them, and to instruct them in Book and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-"

AAYADAAN iyo aadayo kale oo Qur`aanka ku jira...waxay ka hadlayaan "GENTILE" ma`ahan...inay ka hadlayan "damiin" ama "qof aan wax ba qori karin"

Gentile waa qofkii aan Children of Israel ahayn! Ilaahayna wuxuu la hadlaya dadka Yehuda iyo Nasaraada!

Ilaahay wuxuu balan ka qaaday Ibraahiim inuu dhashiisa siin doono xikmadaha iyo wanaaga! Sidoo kale, Alle wuxuu u sheegay in aysan dhamaantood qaadanayan! Ilmaha Israa`iil wuxuu Ilaahay xikmad iyo wanaag siiyay SEDEX kun oo sano! Nebiyadii Alle oo dhan dhexdoodii buu ka keenay! Intaas Ilaahay dadka "CARABTA" ah wuu iska daayay---Nebiyaalna uma soo dirin...xikmadna ma barin!

LAAKIIN, buugooda dhexdiisa(Isaiah, chapter 42) Alle wuxuu u sheegay inuu soo bixin doono Nebi aan AYAGA(Ilmaha Israa`iil) ahayn! Runtiina, Alle wuxuu tilmaamay Maxammad(pbuh)! Wuxuu sheegay wax kasta oo uu sameenayo, iwm!


MARKA, hadalka yuusan iga dheeraanine, Nebi Muxammad ma`ahayn nin "ummi" ah---wuxuu ahaa nin Businessman ah! Oo contract iyo balan buu wuxuu la geli jiray...dadka Yathrib(Medina) iwm...degan! Khadiijah, ilaahay ha u naxariistee, waxay nebiga ku jeclaatay...wuxuu u soo hoyiyay dad badan oo kalyaanti ah...oo wuxuu u ahaa beec-mushtar ay ka heshay! Marka---ereyga "ummi" wuxuu noqon karaa labo; qof aan waxba qorin waxna aqriyin...ama qof aan Ilmaha Israa`iil ahayn! ADIGU marka teebaad u malaynaysaa???

Ilaahay wuu ka doortay Ilamaha Israa`iil ummada kale oo dhan---laakiin CARABTU waxay ahaayeen...ilmihii Ibraahim(Alle na ma uusan iloobaynin!)


Xikmada waa wax kasta oo Nebi dadka u keeno! Wanaag iyo toosin; arag sida Carabia(dhulka carabta) uu ahaa dhul wasaq ah. Markii Nebiga Alle loo soo diray; xikmadiisa iyo wanaagiisa wuxuu Alle ugu soo dhiibo jid xikmad leh oo lagu noolaado. Agoontii la dhacayay, naagihii *sharmuutaysi* caadada u ahayd, ilmihii gabar ahayd oo la dilayay markay dhalato, Gurigii Alle oo ilaahyo kale lagu caabudayay, salaadii iyo soonkii oo la qaribay, zakkadii oo lakala nusqiyay, dhiigii oo la banaystay...WAXAAS oo dhan waxay ahayd JAHLINIMO---Alle baana markaas usoo diray nin Xikmad ilaahay siiyay...oo Nebi Eebe doortay ah!


Ramadan Mubarak!


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!

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Walaalkiin

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Nabad iyo Naxariis Ilaahay Korkiina Ha Ahaato

Ramadaan Kariim

Ahmad

Walaal afka carabiga ah UMMI micnihiisu ma aha "GENTILE" sidaad adigu ku turjuntay.

"GENTILE" waxaa af carabiga lagu dhahaa "ACJAMI" Soomaaliduna waxay tiraahdaa "CAJAMI."

UMMI macnaheedu ma aha JAAHIL ama DOQON ama NACAS. Dadka faraha badan ee Soomaaliyeed ee ku xeel dheer ganacsiga kuwa suuqa dalaalka ka ah, kuwa xoolaha carabaha geeya. Dumarka inta Bombay tagaan dhar iyo dahab ka keena. Kuwa gadiidka leh ee bakhaarad hor fadhiya iyo kuwa badan oo MILYAN DHEER oo aan ku tilmaano ayaa ah UMMI.

UMMI waa qof aan baran sida wax loo QORO ama loo AKHRIYO.

Nebigeena Suubaan Sallaahu Calayhi WaSalim wuxuu ahaa UMMI.

Wanaagga iyo MUCJISADA Qur'aankuna waxaa weeye in ruux UMMI ah oo aan lagu aqoon GABYAA iyo SHEEKO sheege in ay Ilaahay Ku Soo Dejiyay.

Haayoo wuxuu ahaa ganacsade Shaam iyo Xijaas u kala safra oo AAMIN ah oo barax iyo been lagu aqoon. Wuxuu kaloo ahaa baari u wanaagsan dadka la safra iyo Hooyadeen Khadiija Ilaahay Ha Ka Raali Noqdee oo uu u shaqayn jiray.

Sidoo kale horay baa la isugu dayay in la yiraahdo UMMI ma ahayn oo wuxuu bartay sheekooyinkii dadkii hore intuu safarada ganacsiga ku jiray.

Ilaahay Xakiimka Ah Ayaa BILAD Sharaf Uga Dhegay Rasuulkiisa in uu ahaa UMMI.

Hadaba UMMI uma dhigmo "damiin" ama garaad gaabni ee waxay tilmaamaysa qof aan wax qorin oo aan akhiyin.

Ilaahay Baa Qur'aankiisa ka dhigay CARABI aan ahayn ACJAMI sidaas baadna ugu arkayn iska hor imaad.

Ahmad walaal markay noqoto TURJUMAADDA Qur'aanka dadka isku hawlay in afaf badan ku turjumaan oo wakhti iyo xoolo badan ku bixiyay in fidiyaan KITAABKA Ilaahay Ajarkooda Ilaahay Baa Gudi Kara inaga abaal iyo amaan bay nagu leeyihiin.

Hase yeeshee marka ay iska hor yimaadaan CARABIGA iyo afka wax lagu turjumay waxaa sareeya macnaha ku salaysan Af Carabiga.

XIKMADDA Aayadda ku jirtaa walaal SUNADA NEBIGEENA SUUBAN SALALLAAHU CALAYLI WASALIM.

Ramadan Kariim Ilaahayna Xaq Ha Ina Tuso Isagoo Og Sidii Roon.

Ilaahayow Noo Naxariiso

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Nur

Unrecorded Date
Dear Ahmed;

You missed the point again, and all I can say is please, please and please try to learn more(I constantly say that to myself) but at least I know the meaning of DALAAM it is not by the way "daalam" or "daalamiin" it is DALAAM which has a different meaning, I also know why Allah has used "WE" (INAA), waxaa loo isticmaalaa laba weji; ama in lagu weheliyo(oo sidaad u fahamtay ah) ama in aad isla weyn tahay (waa anaga oo kale af Soomaaliga) magacyada Ilaahayna waxaa ka mid ah (MUTAKABIR).

Ahmed I do not think any body in this disscussion have ever said that Hadith is superior to Qur'an.

It is OK if you learn Qur'an by any language for your sake, but to make such an academic statement like (who prohibits things in Islam Qur,an or Hadiths) and subsequent FATWA, like you did, you need to learn more and you need to learn at the source (ARABIC).


Ramadaan Kariim.

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Walaalkiin

Unrecorded Date
Nabad iyo Naxariis Ilaahay Korkiin Ha Ahaato

Ramadan Kariim

Ahmad
Walaal raali ahow haddii aan mar kale soo noqday waxaan gocday in aan ku iraahdo:

WALAALOW MA KITAABKA ILAAHAY AYAAD KA WAYDAY DALIIL AAD KAASHATO MARKA AAD YUHUUD IYO KIRISTAAN BOOGAAGTA AY NAXLIYEEN AAD MARKHAATI U QABSANAYSO?

MISE WALAAL CULAMADA MUSLIMIINTA AYAA KA WAYDAY MID AAD TIX RAACDO MARKAAD YAHUUD HADALKIISA SOO QAADANAYSO?

XIKMADDA (WISDOM)
Sahih. Related by Malik as mursal/mu'allaq/balaghat (depending on choice of terminology), and related twice as musnad by al- Hakim. The meaning of the hadith is contained in the Qur'an, in the mention of the Book and Wisdom (2:129, 2:151, 2:231, 3:164, 4:113, 33:34 & 62:2); al-Shafi'i says, "I have heard the most knowledgeable people about the Qur'an say that the Wisdom is the Sunnah" (Al-Risalah, Eng. trans., p. 111).

Ilaahayow Noo Naxariiso

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Calaykum;

To; Walaalkiin,

Walaal, *xikmad* micnaheed?

Walaal, aayada aad soo qortay oo ahayd;

"62.2 It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a messenger from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to purify them, and to instruct them in Book and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-"

"amongst the UNLETTERED"---"FIL UMMAYIINA"

Carabtaa laga hadlayaa; "FIL UMMAYIINA" "Ummayiinta dhexdooda"

Marka Carabtu ma waxay wada ahaayeen dad aan wax qori/aqrin karin??? FADLAN, xasuusnow...in shaacir(gabay) uu ahaa waqtigaas WAXA ummada xiiseen jirtey! Gabayadaasna dadku way qori jireen...oo suuqay ku gadi jireen!

Qur`aanka mucjisadiisa waxaa ka mid ahaa asagoo sidii GABAY oo kale u qoran...buu hadana lacag LA`AAN ahaa!

Yaynaan sheeko dhaafine, bal "fil ummayiina" aan fahano! Waa wax laysku raacsan yahay in Carabtu ay ahaayeen dad wax qori karay...aqrin karayna, laakiin "ummida" meeshaan looga hadlayo waa UMMIGA(GENTILE) looga hadlay "Torah/Gospel!"---oo micnaheedu yahay uusan ahaanayn ILMIHII ISRAA`IIL!

Macnaha `GENTILE` waa wixii aan cilmi lahayn; al yacni waxaan "ALLE DOORAN oo cilmi barin" oo dadka kale ah...ilaa iyo Ilmihii Israa`iil mooyee, oo Alle doortay cilmina siiyay!

Aduunku wuxuu ku nacay Yehuda waxay tahay...waxay dadka dhahaan "waxaad tihiin Gentile"...sidaas daraadeed dadku waxay heystaan in Yehudu midab/dhaqan takoor ay yihiin(WAYNA yihiin...runtii!)

Marka, walaal, bal adigu ii sheeg waxa "fil ummayiina" ay tahay micanaheeda! Dadka Carabta ah oo dhan ma waxay ahaayeen dad aan wax qori karin/aqrin karin??? NO! Dadka Carabta ma waxay ahaayeen dad aan ahayn Ilmihii Israa`iil? YES! Marka bal adigu ii fasir...meesha loola jeedo!

Qur`aanku ma`ahan wax lagu wareero---oo adag, runtii...markaad ka fakartid!


NUR,

Brother, it says "dalaamin Lil-cabiid!" I guess it depends on how you VIEW it---or understand it!

I listed three different people---trusted people...whom all of their effort was to JUST translate! Do you not think that they'd SAY so??? "injustic in the least" that is what they agreed upon---or something like that! When I look at that...I SEE the point; "God is not in the least unjust to his servants"--plain and simple! It does NOT, in my heart or head and known, imply that God is unjust to anybody!

As for the "WE" thing...I was just relating that so that you can see "literally"; not what God means it(which I agree with you!)

And, Nur, that is just the point; I don't think you need to be a Scholar to tell what you know! Let you be wrong, God knows it that you did not do it to deprive people from their religion! We're ALL here discussing(and I'm most certainly not here to give fatwa, whatever that means!) I guess, people who call people "Gaal" can do well with that! :)

...and yes, i'm learning! And blessed be...that we have ALL kinds of languages to learn our religion in! We're not Jews---who require you to speak Hebrew to be a Jew(L@L!) You learn the religion...on however it's possible for you to learn; in any language!

There are things I believe we should do in Arabic(like memorizing the Qur`an, doing salat, etc)!


Ramadan Mubarak!


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!

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Mu'min

Unrecorded Date
Please get your facts right, Ahmed. Neither Ali Bin Abi-Dhalib nor Hussein Bin Ali were Shi'as!

Cali ma uusan aaminsaneyn in uu Nebinimada uu ka leeyahay Nebi Maxammad (csw) sida shiicada qaarkeed ay maanta aaminsan tahay, mana uusan aaminsanayn in uu khilaafada Abuu bakar, cumar ama Cuthmaan Bin cafaan uu uga xaq lahaa sida shiicada qaarkeed kalena ay maanta aaminsan tahay.

Ramadaan Kariim.

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Walaalkiin

Unrecorded Date
Nabad iyo Naxariis Ilaahay Korkiina Ha Ahaato

Ramadan Kariim

Gacaliye Ahmad Sidee Alla Kuu Galay bal qabooji oo dib walaal u akhri waxaad qortay iyo Aayadan aad cuskatay:
""62.2 It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a messenger from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to purify them, and to instruct them in Book and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-"

Bal hadana fiiri waxaad qortay Ahmadow "Carabtaa laga hadlayaa; "FIL UMMAYIINA" "Ummayiinta dhexdooda"

Bal hadana fiiri labadan "FIL UMMAYIINA" iyo "amongst the Unlettered" miyaad ku aragtaa CARAB.

Af Ingiriiska waxaa ku qoran "amongst the Unlettered" hadana hoosta ka xariiq UNLETTERED.

Yuhuudda Ilaahay Nacladay baa waxay dhahaan dadku waa "JEW" iyo "GENTILE" oo sida Soomaalida qaarkeed u dhahdo "wax madax modow iyo ..... is la eg" iyo "camalkiisa (galnimo) cadayse .... u ahaa!"

Carabtuna waxay tiraahdaa dadi waa "Carab" iyo "Cajam."

Taas waa taas
UMMI bal qaamuuska ka fiiri iyo turjumaada kor ku qoran waa UNLETTERED.

Carabtu waxa bay qori jiray oo gabyi jirtay oo alifi jirtay oo cilmi aduun yaqaaneen oo ganacsan jiraan oo dagaal iyo xeelado badan yiqiineen halkanse carab iyo cajam toona laga hadlin ee waxaa laga hadlay KUWA AAN WAXNA QORIN WAXNA AKHRIN...UMMIYIIN...UNLETTERED...

Ahmad walaal ma aha ceeb iyo liidis Nebigeenii Suubaanaa (SCW) in lagu sheego UMMI ama UNLETTERED balse waa sharaf iyo ammaan iyo MUCJISO.

Ilaahayow Noo Naxariiso

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Zamil.

Unrecorded Date
ASalaamu caleykum walaalayaal.
AHMED YAA AHMED.

Walaal horta nin mucjisaad tahay oo runtii aad loogu wareeru. Marna u eg nin islaam ah marna murtad ah oo ilaahey ka furtey. Waxaanse aniga gadaal kasoo gaarey doodahaaga badankoodana waan soo aqriyey. Waxyaalaha aan aadka ula yaabey waxaa ka mid ah NABI MAXAMMED UMMI MAAHEYN. Toloow maxaa kusoo xiga? Axaadiista waa la abuurtey aad ku doodeyso waxaad ku liideysaa hadalkii nabiga barakeysan. Kolley qiyaamaha si kastood ilaahey u rumeysan tahay haddana waa inaad nabi maxammed ku daba feyshaa oo isaga ummadiisa aad ka mid noqotaa
si kastood tawxiidka u taqaan haddana ma oran kartaa nabi maxammed waan ka marmey MAADAAMA ADIGABA AAD SIDIISOO KALE ALLE CAABUDDO OO KALI YEESHO CIBAADADIISA?.. Bal arrinkaan ka jawaab.waxaan la yaabi jirey doqonnimada IBLIIS iyo waxa ku xambaarey inuu isagoo malkuutka samaawaadaka arkey iyo mucjisaadka rabbaaniga ah oo malaa igta ilaahey arkey misana si sahlan xaqa u garab marey. ILAAHEY WAXAAN KAAGA BARYEY INUU ALLE KU CAAFIYO O CIRIB XUMADA MADAX ADEYGA KKENTO ILAAHEY KAA KORIYO. ILAAHEY HAKU SOO HANUUNIYO.
Waxaad tiri "NIN CYPER SPACEKA WAX IGA DHAADHICIN KARAA MA JIRO" waxaan u qaatey dadka intiisa kale inayan ISLAAM SAX AH KULA AHEYN MAADAAMA NABI MAXAMMED HADDALADIISA AY U RAACAAN SIDA QURAANKA OO KALE OO MARKAA AAD U ARAGTEY MUSHRIKIIN.

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum!

Mu`Min,

Of course they weren't---nor were they "sunni"...they were Muslims---and NOTHING but Muslims! This is my point! HOWEVER, it's where Shi`ism began! They were known as "Ali's party"---and later became a sect of their own! Later was named "shia"---yada yada yada yada! When Husayn was invited to rule part of Iraq, the sect was STILL Muslims...nothing but Muslims! It was later when they died---that the name taken place!

And the beliefs and practices...just took its toll! NOW, today, there are some Shias who believe Ali was God! Exalted is God above what they set-up with him!


to; Walaalkiin,

Walaal, aniga marabo inaan aayada kala nusqaamiyo---aayada ilaa aad wada aqrisid mawada fahmaysid;

"62.2 It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a messenger from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to purify them, and to instruct them in Book and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-"

Look at the verse;

"He who has sent amongst the Unlettered a Messanger" God sends among the UMMIYIIN(Unlettered)...a Messanger! WHO is God sending amongst?(ARABS...)


"From among themselves" themselves who? Who is God sending Muhammad amongst???(ARABS...)

"to rehearse to them His Signs, to purify them, and to instruct them in Book and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-" WHO were in manifest error(lost in faith...and worshiped idols who stood nothing but a mockery in the sight of the Lord)???(ARABS...)

Is it true that those *who cannot read or write* are in manifest error? NO! Millions of somalis...could not read or write...but STILL were Muslims! Does that put them in "manifest error"???


NOW...to understand even MORE---who is God talking to? Just read a few verses ahead---and there shall you see!

"5. The similitude of those who were entrusted with the (obligations of) Taurát (Mosaic Law), but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not). Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of Allah: and Allah guides not people who do wrong.

6. Say: "O ye of Jewry! If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!"

The ones God was talking about were "UNLETTERED" who were "in manifest error"---now he talks about some of who FALSIFIED the Laws(I wonder who those are?L@L)

It's been mentioned in the Book(SO many times over and over)---that before Islam in Arabia...God chose the Children of Israel ABOVE nations! THUS, their saying that "Israel" or "Gentile" is correct---untill Muhammad(Pbuh) came! The word "JEW" is ridiculeously astonishing once you learn its roots---it's not at all Children of Israel...but a FAKE nation that came after it!

The Arabs' saying "Arabs" or "Ajam" is ridiculeous---since Arabs are not chosen above nations! Islam is for ALL Mankind! You see, Islam is not a tribe...but the religion of God! Children of Israel was a tribe...just like Arabs!


Zamil,

Soomaalidu waa dad si kale ah! War yaahee, HOW MANY TIMES do I have to say??? Waan aaminsanahay in Nebiga qowlkiisa uu jiro---laakiin wax kasta oo la yiri "nebiga qowlkiisii weeye" ma qowlkiisaa???

Nebiga la`aantiis waa maxay diinta jirta? Hadaan Nebiga ka maarmo...maxaan Qur`aanka iyo diinta Islaamka u raacayaa??? Ma aamintaa buugaag aadan nimankii qoray aaminsanayn? Cayaalnimo meesha looma baahna!

I do NOT, and say AGAIN, do NOT...deny the prophet or Hadiths---but I deny many of what "Sunnis" hold as the "sunnah"---because it's a lie against the Prophet! AND, yes, we have seen nations before Islam who did that, also!

Ibliis baa si "sahlan" xaqa u garab marey, miyaa??? Nin Alle caasiyay...oo AMARKIISA yiri; "NO!"??? Hadaba Ibliis maanta buu yahay cadowga cad eh, yuusan si "sahlan" kugu garab marin xaqa! :)


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!

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Zamil.

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WARYAAHEE AHMAD.
Can you clarify what sunnis hold as sunnah and yet is not the prophets works or not his sayings?..Can you point that please so that people don't become confused. In my understanding sunni is the one who follows the way and saying of the prophet if they are not falsified. You know that the prophet said" upon you is my sunna and the sunna of the khulafaa'u raashidiin" what do you say about this hadith?... May be it is falsified and those who follow the sunna are doomed is that what you saying?...You always leave your argument where you started from. I admire your stabborness but they are for the wrong cause. War ilaahey amrkiisa badanaa?.. Nin yohow sunni waxaa la dhahaa ninkii nabiga raaco oo ku deyda magac qof la baxana maahee waa ficil iyo hadal qofkii ku dhaqmana lagu magacaabo sunni. Waxaad innoo sheegtaa waxyaalo aad ku aragtey dadka ku ceyneyso sunnada oo khaldan bal aan ku qabsannee illeyn diinta wax nin waliba siduu doono ka yeelo maahan ama sheekh hebel baa yiri lagu wado hawsheeda. Waa daliil arrinka haddaad camal sunnada nabiga ah oo adiga arigtidaada qaldan bal tilmaan aannu wada aragnee.
Waa ii dhiman tahay nin salliga diidey in lagu aqriyo salaadda dhexdeeda. Salliga iska daayee waxaa bannaan ataxyaadka kadib qofka wuxuu doono oo duco ah inuu aqristo iyadoo la raacaayo salaadda faralka dabadeeda iney ducadu aqbal tahay ama rasuulkaba kasugnaatey inuu duceystey salaadda dhexdeeda mise iyana SAXAABAA SOO WARISEY OO WAA HADAL NIN YIRI DEETANA NABIGA AFKA LOO GALIYEY. Xaqa abaa hureyra aad ka gashey baaba halis ah inaad ku halaagsanto oo aafo kaa raacdo.

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Haaruun.

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AHMED.

You are very dangerous and slick to a point where you can achieve whatever yourgoal is. I am sure you did not learn your knowledge to benefit others but to doom them. Somalians need help in their religion and to see someone like you who is a poisonous snake in the grass can be a disaster waiting to bite people's legs whenever they step on it. God knows your aim and your goals but I hope HE"ALLAH SUBHANAH WILL STOP YOU DEAD RIGHT IN YOUR TRUCKS BEFORE YOU MISLEAD ANY OF HIS SLAVES" if you are a misunderstood soul then MAY ALL THE BROTHERS BE FORGIVEN WHO CALLED YOU GAAL OR ANYTHING RELATING TO THAT TERMS. WASALAAM.

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jaamac

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Ahmed,

Dadka kani waxey ku hadlayaan waxey soo minguuriyeen amase ka maqleen dadkii wax u soo akhriyey, waxaana laga yaabaa afkaaro ka gedisan ineysan uutul-cimrigood dhageysan, aad baan ugu faraxsanahay inaad ra'yigaaga la soo shirtagto.
taas macnaheedu ma'ahan inaan kugu raacsanahay shey kastood tiri.

RAGGA KALE,

Waxaan la yaabanahay sida aad dhabta uga fogtihiin oo markii uu xujo idiin la yimaado axmed aad u raadineysaa dulduleelo, kana leexaneysaan MAIN ISSUE gii, waan jeclahay fikrado kala duwan inaan dhageysto, mase jecli guulwadeyn iyo inaan nacamleeyo.

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Ansaari

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Jaamac

Haddii aad dadkan wax dhaantid SAX!. Haddii kale iska AAMUS!

Ogoowna Diintu ma ahan AFKAAR iwm oo la iska yiraahdo.

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Walaalkiin

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Nabad iyo Naxariis Ilaahay Korkiina Ha Ahaato

Ramadan Karim

Walaal Ahmad horta mar walba raali noqo sababtoo ah waxa badan baan kaa faa'idaystay ha ugu horayso in KITAABKA Ilaahay UUSAN lahayn iska hor imaad yahayna mid dhamaystirin.

Sidaa aragto waxaan isku dayay in aad su'aalahayga ku soo koobo KITAAB QUR'AANKA madaama aad adigu tiri waa la khalday TIIRKA kale ee ISLAAMKA oo ah SUNNADII Nebigeenna Suuban Sallalaahu Calayhi WaSalam.

Walaal Ahmad waxaad qortay "Walaal, aniga marabo inaan aayada kala nusqaamiyo---aayada ilaa aad wada aqrisid mawada fahmaysid;

Waxaadna ku Adkaysatay in macnaha "UMMIYUUNTU" "UNLETTERED" yihiin CARABTA..adoo leh sidan "From among themselves" themselves who? Who is God sending Muhammad amongst???(ARABS...)"

Walaal Ahmad mar haddii aad rabto in QUR'AANKU noqdo mid dhan oo wada jir marka loo akhriyo uu ka jawaabi karo su'aasha murtidiisana la fahmi karo bal ila akhri labadan Aayadood:

Translation: Pickthall
[al-A`raf 7:157-158] Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them. He will enjoin on them that which is right and forbid them that which is wrong. He will make lawful for them all good things and prohibit for them only the foul; and he will relieve them of their burden and the fetters that they used to wear. Then those who believe in him, and honour him, and help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him: they are the successful.

Say (O Muhammad): O mankind! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah to you all - (the messenger of) Him unto Whom belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. There is no God save Him. He quickeneth and He giveth death. So believe in Allah and His messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, who believeth in Allah and in His Words, and follow him that haply ye may be led aright."

Translation: Yusufali
[al-A`raf 7:157-158] "Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper."

"O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Apostle of God, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in God and His Apostle, the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in God and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided."

Translation: Shakir
[al-A`raf 7:157-158] Those who follow the Apostle-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel (who) enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so (as for) those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.

Say: O people! surely I am the Apostle of Allah to you all, of Him Whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth there is no god but He; He brings to life and causes to die therefore believe in Allah and His apostle, the Ummi Prophet who believes in Allah and His words, and follow him so that you may walk in the right way."

In afka Carabigu hodan yahay bal fiiri halka erey ee UMMI sida ay saddexan turjumaan u kala turjumeen:

Shakir : the Ummi
Yusufali : the unlettered
Pickthall : the Prophet who can neither read nor write.

Bal day saddex qof oo koloy aniga afka Ingiriiska macalin iigu ah ayaa sidaa u turjumay "RASUUL UMMIYI."

Labadan Aayadood ee qor ku qoran kama hadlayaan sidaa adigu tiri ""From among themselves" ee waxay tilmaamayaa "RUSUUL UMMIYI" ama sida uu ku turjumay Pickthall "the Prophet who can neither read nor write."

Ahmadow walaal bal aynu isla meel dhigno in labadan Aayadood tilmaamayaan Nebi Maxamed (SCW) oo ahaa RUSUUL UMMIYI..THE PROPHET WHO CAN NEITHER READ NOR WRITE.

Ilaahayow Noo Naxariiso

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Ahmad

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Asalama Calaykum!

to; Walaalkiin,

Walaal, qaybtaan aad bay u dheeraatey...marka aqri "who prohibits things in Islam? Qur`an or Hadiths?(part two!)...

Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad

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Anonymous

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asalaamucaleykum dhamaantiin.

to ahmed.

marka aad aragto in aanad ka jawaabi karin suaasha lagu weydiiyo ayaad dabageedkumarasho iyo marmarsiiyo bilowdaa!!!!!. maxaa adiga kaa galey waqtiga dheerantisa maad hadaad wax isla hayso doodaada dhiibatid. mise way kugu adag tahay in aad runta sheegto oo dadka kale ku raacdo waxay kuu soo bandhigaan.
waxaad istaahishaa in somalinet. gabigiisaba lagaa saaro, oon cidina kaa gurin warka.
hadalbadanaa, wadne adgaa, madax adgaa, maxaa laga abuurey ma shaydaan buu cad ku leeyahay.mise ibliis baa magac inoola baxay oo natka inagala doodaya.

dad baad isku deyeysaa in aad lumiso waxase hubaal ah in aad dafiri doonto naarta aad ugu baaqayso marka lagu yidhaa isagaa na halaabiyey, ood sida ibliis odhan:
"innamaa dacawtukum fastajabtum lii, falaa taluumuunii waluumuu anfusakum".

allaah hanaga kaa qabto isagaa quluubtayada daalacanayae, ogna in aanaan rabin in aanu halowno iyo in aanu wax lumino toona.

waan kula socda bal car hadaanad marmarsiiyo u joojineyn uga jawaab wiilka wuxuu ku weydiiyey.

nabadey.

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum!


Annonymous,

please read the "PART TWO" of this discussion in the Islamic section! I answered the questions...and for future references towards this discussion, please refer to that post i named!


Peace, Ahmad!

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Suleiman

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Dear: Ahmed

Asalaama Caleykum


Walaal Allaah u noqo oo been abuurka jooji, waxaad tahay qolyo soo baxay oo la dhoho qur,aaniyinn, waxaad soo copy gareysay ayaad meesha ku soo qortay, Nebigu salalaahu caleyhi wasalam, wuxuu yiri, Beenta lagu abuurto lamid
maaha beenaha kale, ee qof kii saa sameeyaa
diyaar how noqdo meeshuu ka geli la haa naarta,
Allaah unoqo.

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