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...WHO prohibits things in Islam??? QUR`AN or HADITHS???(PART TWO!!!)

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Alaykum All!

Due to the long replies to the last discussion with this title, i'm opening another
discussion...for it takes time to download!

I'm re-posting Walaalkiin`s post to me on on Friday, December 10, 1999 - 10:41 am: as
follows;


[[Nabad iyo Naxariis Ilaahay Korkiina Ha Ahaato

Ramadan Karim

Walaal Ahmad horta mar walba raali noqo sababtoo ah waxa badan baan kaa faa'idaystay
ha ugu horayso in KITAABKA Ilaahay UUSAN lahayn iska hor imaad yahayna mid
dhamaystirin.

Sidaa aragto waxaan isku dayay in aad su'aalahayga ku soo koobo KITAAB
QUR'AANKA madaama aad adigu tiri waa la khalday TIIRKA kale ee ISLAAMKA oo
ah SUNNADII Nebigeenna Suuban Sallalaahu Calayhi WaSalam.

Walaal Ahmad waxaad qortay "Walaal, aniga marabo inaan aayada kala
nusqaamiyo---aayada ilaa aad wada aqrisid mawada fahmaysid;

Waxaadna ku Adkaysatay in macnaha "UMMIYUUNTU" "UNLETTERED" yihiin
CARABTA..adoo leh sidan "From among themselves" themselves who? Who is God
sending Muhammad amongst???(ARABS...)"

Walaal Ahmad mar haddii aad rabto in QUR'AANKU noqdo mid dhan oo wada jir marka
loo akhriyo uu ka jawaabi karo su'aasha murtidiisana la fahmi karo bal ila akhri labadan
Aayadood:

Translation: Pickthall
[al-A`raf 7:157-158] Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read
nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with
them. He will enjoin on them that which is right and forbid them that which is wrong. He
will make lawful for them all good things and prohibit for them only the foul; and he will
relieve them of their burden and the fetters that they used to wear. Then those who
believe in him, and honour him, and help him, and follow the light which is sent down
with him: they are the successful.

Say (O Muhammad): O mankind! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah to you all - (the
messenger of) Him unto Whom belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth.
There is no God save Him. He quickeneth and He giveth death. So believe in Allah and
His messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, who believeth in Allah and in
His Words, and follow him that haply ye may be led aright."

Translation: Yusufali
[al-A`raf 7:157-158] "Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they
find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands
them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good
(and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from
their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in
him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they
who will prosper."

"O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Apostle of God, to Whom belongeth the dominion
of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and
death. So believe in God and His Apostle, the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in God
and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided."

Translation: Shakir
[al-A`raf 7:157-158] Those who follow the Apostle-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel (who) enjoins them good and forbids
them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure
things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so
(as for) those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.

Say: O people! surely I am the Apostle of Allah to you all, of Him Whose is the kingdom
of the heavens and the earth there is no god but He; He brings to life and causes to die
therefore believe in Allah and His apostle, the Ummi Prophet who believes in Allah and
His words, and follow him so that you may walk in the right way."

In afka Carabigu hodan yahay bal fiiri halka erey ee UMMI sida ay saddexan turjumaan u
kala turjumeen:

Shakir : the Ummi
Yusufali : the unlettered
Pickthall : the Prophet who can neither read nor write.

Bal day saddex qof oo koloy aniga afka Ingiriiska macalin iigu ah ayaa sidaa u turjumay
"RASUUL UMMIYI."

Labadan Aayadood ee qor ku qoran kama hadlayaan sidaa adigu tiri ""From among
themselves" ee waxay tilmaamayaa "RUSUUL UMMIYI" ama sida uu ku turjumay
Pickthall "the Prophet who can neither read nor write."

Ahmadow walaal bal aynu isla meel dhigno in labadan Aayadood tilmaamayaan Nebi
Maxamed (SCW) oo ahaa RUSUUL UMMIYI..THE PROPHET WHO CAN NEITHER
READ NOR WRITE.

Ilaahayow Noo Naxariiso]] by Walaalkiin!


Walaal, waxaan hada gacantayda ku hayaa qaamuus af-carabi ah; THE OXFORD
ENGLISH-ARABIC DICTIONARY edited by N.S. Doniach! 1972.

Qaamuskaan waxaa ku qoran, sidan;

GENTILE: (1) qayra yahuudi, (2) minal ummi.

Fadlan, xasuusnow, qaamuskan waa “English-Arabic” ma`ahan “Arabic-English”.

Marka, hadaan qaamuskan raacno, ereyga “ummi”...

Sidoo kale, xasuusnow in luuqada carabiga ah oo Qur`aanka ku qoran yahay ay tahay
“the classic Arabic” ama “Carabigii qadiimka(hore!)”

Inay bal “ummi” tahay Gentile iyo inay tahay qof aan wax aqrin/qorin, aqri wuxuu Alle
lee yahay;

“3.20: So if they dispute with thee, say: "I have submitted my whole self to Allah and so
have those who follow me." And say to the People of the Book and to those who are
unlearned: "Do ye (also) submit yourselves?" If they do, they are in right guidance, but if
they turn back, thy duty is to convey the Message; and in Allah's sight are (all) His
servants.”

Who are the People of the Book(Children of Israel, Jews + Christians!)...who are the
“unlearned”(the pagan Arabs!) Were ALL Arabs “illiterate”??? Because the verse says;
“waqul lilladiina Uutul-Kitaaba WAL-UMMIYIINA” Who are the “UMMIYIINTU”????

SIDOO kale, waa wax cid kasta og-tahay in Yehuudu dhahaan; “Ah, these Gentiles are
animals” markay dadka ka hadlayaan. Aqri aayada soo socota;

“3.75: Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with a hoard of gold,
will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay
it unless thou constantly stoodest demanding, because, they say, "there is no call on us (to
keep faith) with these ignorant (people)." But they tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they
know it.”
Aayadu waxay af-carabi ku dheheysaa meesha aan rabo sidatan; “qaaluu alaysa calaynaa
FIL UMMIYIINA” “they say "there is no call on us (to keep faith) with these ignorant
(people).”

Sidoo kale, wixii ugu horeeyay oo Nebi Muxammad lagu soo dejiyay waxay ahayd;
“IQRA...Aqri; aqri magaca Eebahaa!” Macne masheegaysaa in nin aan wax aqrin karin
Alle ku dhihi lahaa “AQRI”???

Sidoo kale Nebigu, calayhi sallaatu wasalaam, wuxuu lahaa qoraa(Scribe!)...magaciisa la
dhihi jiray Zayd Ibn Thabit! Zayid, sidoo kale, wuxuu ka mid ahaa nimankii loo doortay
inay Qur`aanka isku dabaridaan! Daabacaan, qoraan...oo hal buug kuwada qoraan! Taas
macnaheeda ma`ahan inuu Nebiga wax uusan qori karin...balse waqtiga Nebiga, dadka
waxay lahaayeen qoreyaal! Nimankii xukunka Islaamka oo dhan baa lahaa qoreyaal! Ma
xasuusataa sidii soomaliya dadka ayagoo gaariga wadi kara...oo fiyow---ay hadana u
lahaayeen darawalo? Sidaas oo kale!

Marka, waxaan jeclahay in intaanoo aayado ah ay cadaynayso in “UMMI” micnaheedu
aysan ahayn qof wax qorin/aqrin...balse qof aan CILMI lasiin!(GENTILE!)

Wasalama Calaykum!
Ahmad!

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Faatumo

Unrecorded Date
Salaam

axmad aad aan uga helay aboo. qeer ilahay haku siiyo. dedkana iska dhaaf. ciilaa hayo. wixii ku dheho gal baa tahay ayakaa gal ah.

macsalam

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Ahmad

Unrecorded Date
Asalama Calaykum!

Faadumo,

Aniga wax aan cid gaal ku tilmaamayo malahan! Qof kii diida in Ilaahay uu ALLE yahay---Muxammad(pbuh) uu ahaa Nebi asaga soo dirsaday; QOFKAAS gaal waan ku oronayaa, laakiin wixii intaas aaminsan, SHIRKI kasta haku jiraane...afkayga wuu ka nabad gelayaa!


Ramadan Mubarak!


Wasalama Calaykum!

Ahmad!

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LUQMAAN

Unrecorded Date
assalaamacalaykum axmad waan akhriyey qoraalkaaga waxaana arkay inaad nabiga iyo sunaha kasoo horjeedo oo aad sunihii kutumatay oo aad diidantahay ninyahaw ilaahay kabaq oo usoo noqo waxaas oo kale waa danbiyee.......waxaan kaloo arkay inaad saliga salaada lagu dhex akhriyo oo nabiga ilaahay loo baryo aad diidantahay. ooo aaad laadahay waa quraafaad iyo wax lagu daray,,,,,,,,,,,WAR ILAAHAY NINYAHOW USOO NOQO WAA NAXARIISTEE.NABIGA SOO ILAAHAY MA ORAN ,<WAMAA AATAA KUMARASUULU FAKHUDUUHU WAMAANAHAAKUM CANHU FANTAHUU.>)(RAACA WUXUU IDIIN LAYIMAADO KAHARANA WUXUU IDINKA REEBO.>)))SIDAAS IYO NABADGALYO THISLETER WAS WRITEN BY LUQMAAN. IN JAN.12.2000.(SHA.4.1420ah)_

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Yaamiin

Unrecorded Date
salaamu calaykum waraxmatulaahi wa barakaatu ikhatal imaan

To: Faaduma

walaal bacda salaan horta ilaahay diinta xaqa ah ha ku tuso meesha ay taal hana ku fahamsiiyo waxaana iga talo ah inta aad Ahmed difaacayso akhriso mawaadiicda uu qoro kadibna isku day in aad fahamto kadibna xukmi lakiin intaa ka hor waxaaan ku odhan lahaa walaal iska ilaali cadhada ilaahay waxaad tidhaadona malaa'ik yaa qoraaysa la soco ilaahayna ha ina xifdiyo aduun iyo aakhiroba Ukhtag filaah Yaasmiin


To: Luqmaan


Jazaaka laahu kula kheer walaal sida aad uga jawaabtay arintaan ama aad usoo gudbisay waanada ilaahayna ha inaga dhigo kuwii uu waafajiyo xaqa waxaa laga soo wariyey rasuulka salalaahu calyhi wasalam in uu yidhi<< MAN YURID LAAHU BIHI KHAYRAN YUFAQIHU FIDIIN...>> yacni qofkii ilaahay uu la doono khayr waxa uu wafajiyaa fahamka diinta marka ilaahay ha inaga dhigo kuwii fahma diinta sida xaqa ah ilaahayna ha kaa abaal mariyo jawaabtaada

wasalaamu calaykum waraxmatulaahi wabarakaatu

ukhtak filaah

Yaasmiin

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