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     | Unrecorded Date iam 26 yrs old college student i have been married for 5yrs but there's no child my wife told me i can married another wife if you interesting please feel free to contect me i live in ohio state which's usa
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| | Unrecorded Date Dude If you still love your wife I recommend you both go see a doctor. Maybe he can help you. Polygamy is against the law in America and I would advise against it.
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| | Unrecorded Date Abdul: I wonder how a college paerson can support a family in the west? Our premier (Mike Harris of Ontario) was once asked "Why did you cut the childcare support for student mothers" by one o protesting group of university students. He replied with "Don't think the government will take care of the children you get before finishing college". I don't think that any college student can support family.
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| | Unrecorded Date Abdul Iimaan laawe!
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| | Unrecorded Date ladan thanks for the tip sis i have deason job i work for iBm computer iam networking and i can support wife even that iam student anyway what you just told me was advice
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| | Unrecorded Date This goes out to MAD MAC" A doctor cant help anyone about their problems; he is just a human being just like us> What you should have said was ask help from the "MIGHTY ALLAH" becouse only Allah can help anyone. ADDUL. If what your saying is true ask Allah for help and forgivness becouse he is the onlyone who can help you.
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| | Unrecorded Date Abdul Bro, I did not ment to be harsh on you. But do you have two hearts? I think Biologically its impossible. The other thing I want to ask you is are you capable of loving two people at once, I tried this before and it was little impossible to achieve. So what I am trying to say is, it always isn't about the money..But more of what we think its right, and feels right. The more wives you have the more your responsibilty increases. And if you are computer enigeering student or Computer Scientist the workload is heavy so I don't know how you want to handle two wives + Multi kids and your work which can some time be very stressfull. So my dear think again about what you have said.
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| | Unrecorded Date Annonymous My dad use to say "God helps those that help themselves." Praying to Allah is fine, but if you assume Allah is going to fix your car when it has a flat you're high. Until you get a new tire and change the flat you're going to have a car stuck in the parking lot. So don't be a moron. If you're sick you go to the doctor. It doesn't hurt to pray (and it might help a lot) but it's not the only earthly solution.
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| | Unrecorded Date MAC-MAC. If you want to spread your desease in the forumss it won't work for you. What kind of god do you believe in the first place you hypocrite?. You said somewhere else in the forums *Be advised that while the Koran specifically rejects Christianity it also says that Christians are Gods people and God favors them. In the old testament of the Bible I can justify ANYTHING. But I can also justify wife beating in the Koran*. You thought this particular discussion forums suits your evil schemes?. Didn't you?. and what can you justify from the old testament?. That saint paul is hallucinator?. He is the devil who devised this 1+1+1= 1 dogma of christianity?. Or worse you can justify a god that encourages and punishes people with their wives taken from them and given to other men?. Basically god propmotes Udultery?. And we read in samuel: *[2.Sam. 12:10] The Lord said to David, "Because you despised me, and have taken the wife of Uri'ah the Hittite to be your wife. Thus say the Lord, "Behold, I will take your wives (He punished David through his daughter and son not his wife as you will see) before your eyes, and give them to your neighbour and he shall lie with your wives in the sight of this sun.*. How do you justify this baseless hypocricy against Allah implying that he orders these shameless acts?. I know you your pedophiliacs are not ashamed to fabricate lies against Allah and say whatever they want. That is why your christian theologists devised all the racism they could in the bible to legitimize their slavery of mankind and we read: *Since you were precious in my sight, you have been honourable, and I have loved you. Therefore, I WILL GIVE MEN IN EXCHANGE FOR YOU, AND PEOPLE FOR YOUR LIFE.*[Isia. 43:4] There you have your white supremacy and racist attitudes towards other races. I wonder when you will be able to justify these and others coming to your way. I have a deal for you! you shut your stupid mouth about religion or else I on your neck revealing all your dark secrets and lies. Allah spoke of the truth when he told about people like you: * You will indeed find them, of all people, most greedy of life,-even more than the idolaters: Each one of them wishes he could be given a life of a thousand years: But the grant of such life will not save him from (due) punishment. For Allah sees well all that they do.*2.96 . Do your little dirty tricks and I am no you loser.
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| | Unrecorded Date Coolmankind You know, I must have a hundred Somali friends, and none of them are psyochpaths. Here on the net they seem to be everywhere. Now you assume I'm prostelytizing? Yes, I've read the bible. I've also read the Koran and the Hadith. And I've read the book of mormon. I like to read. I'm not a Christain or any other label. I'm monotheist and we'll leave it at that. And frankly, I don't care what religion anyone else is. It's not my buisiness. All I was saying to anonymous was that if you have a medical problem you should go to the doctor. You're reading way to much into the rest of it. Relax. I'm not your enemy and I'm not trying to convert Somalis or encourage them to give up Islam. You act like you're under siege. In fact there's a lot of things about Islam that I like. So take a chill pill.
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| | Unrecorded Date Mad-Mac. You should know by now if you have read the Quran that it is offensive to preach to muslims "to give up their believe that Quran is a revelation*. I came across a writing in which you said *Since all religions have mistakes(including Islam I read) let us take a little from here and there*. What do you think is that statements?. Isn't it creating doubts in the minds of the muslims?. Particularly the under educated kids or young adults who are muslims by name?. Worse, isn't that an excuse for the hypocrites(we have many) to hide themselves behind that and laugh behind their screens?. I tell you Mad-Mac, I am psycopath when I see people disrespecting the entity of islam and trying to take advantage of the uninformed. Well, I say to you this, You are free to express yourself as long as your expression does not transgress the limits. Islam is our limit. The forumss are open for everybody, that is why we have people like you speaking without consideration as to what they are saying is offensive or not. I hope you understand my madness(as you said it). And may be what is psycopathic to you, is a blessing for others. Try to see things from our point of view particularly *religious matters*. YOU CAN'T TELL VERDICTS BASED ON YOUR MIND and thinking. That is it. I leave you alone as long as you don't go into *Mined areas* . I PRAY TO THE LORD TO OPEN YOUR HEART TO HIS MERCY. You can consider me one of your friends in the cyper space as long you respect my personal beliefs. As long as you declare you are not a muslim, I have every right to doubt what you say and suggest. That is where I am coming from. And if your intentions are not as you said *I have no claim on you* but will read your posts when I can.
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| | Unrecorded Date Coolmankind Abowe. Be advised I AM NOT trying to convert you or anyone else. I have no problem with Islam. I do have a problem with people who commit heinous acts and use the koran or the bible or whatever to justify them. In Amercica and the rest of the modern world, people are allowed to express themselves even if that expression is anathema to others. I could go on and on about this but the bottom line is: I'm not a religious man. I advocate open-mindedness in all areas of life but that's it. I would hope that even on the subject of Islam you would be willing to listen to a different point of view. So long as people are not willing to tolerate others with different points of view you will have conflict. Look at the Balkans now (where I'm about to head back to AGAIN). I am willing to listen to your points of view in any forums - even a church. I would hope you would extend that courtesy to me. When the dust settles we may agree to disagree - like I do with so many of my Muslim friends - and that's perfectly OK. But we're still friends. Frankly, most of my friends think I'm crazy for wanting to go back to Somalia. They say I should forget about them since they will likely try to kill me anyway. So I'm used to no one seeing things the way I do. Can you take a look at my message on returning to Somalia and tell me what you think?
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| | Unrecorded Date Mad Mac. You said *you would like me to hear a diferent point of view of islam*. Fine but from who?. You are not a muslim and your understanding of islam may be limited or mixed with some other thoughts. You told me you read quran and ahadith. I know there are qurans translated by non muslims in which they lied and deformed the verses to evengelise the thinking of the reader. I can give you an example of the mistranslation;you said * I can show from the quran a wife beating*. That is obsuletly a lie. I know the quran and not in any where does allah tell to beat a wife. If that is the case; why do we have so many muslim women in america; blue eyed blondes; raised in a western world; you think they would accept that?. No way. You also said you read ahadith; do you know some ahadith are fabricated and the ones you read could be a fabricated source or they may not be. I tell you one good thing; as long as you are non muslims your point of view of islam will not be welcomed with an open heart because you are out of its fold and anything you say about it could mean anything. First, read islam from a islamic source, hopefully you become a muslim, then get married to a somali woman it will be a good jesture from somalis, then take part debates or whatever you wanna do. First thing first bro. Somalis are generous people. they respect their guests as long as they behave well and be considerate. They can be violent soldiers if they disagree with you; however that does not happen often. I hope you become a muslim so that you could feel a sense of belonging to somalis.
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| | Unrecorded Date Coolmankind "They can be violent soldiers if they disagree with you." Now there's the understatement of the year. They can be violent soldiers if they disagree with you. They can be violent soldiers if they want something from you. They can be violent soldiers if they just don't like you. But then, so can I. Maybe that's why I like them so much. I'm not planning on getting married, but you never know. I did have a Somali girlfriend but you can imagine the pressure she was under hanging out with me. While I agree with many aspects of Islam, as I'm sure you've figured out there's some that I don't agree with so I'm not likely to become anything other than what I am. I'm comfortable with my relationship with Allah as it is. Still, I do pray with Muslims once in a while. I like their style of prayer and I'm comfident that we are both praying to the same God. Nevertheless, most Somalis try to convert me to Islam at some point. Nothing wrong with that. Who knows, maybe I'll surprise myself and have a change of heart someday. Take care Abowe. See you on the net - or maybe in Mogadischu. Nabad Gelyo. The MAD ONE
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| | Unrecorded Date waxaan aad ulayaabay inay dadka waxaan khusayn iska galaan. ayagoon lugucasumin, ninka naagoow rabyaahe maxaa loogu yaaci, haddan waxloo haynin maa faraha laga qaado asagaa sidiisa wax u doonan. waa maxay dadka caytamaayo sidii ayagoo waxlayeelay, waa maxay (iimaan laawe) ninka haddoow naag kale u baahday ma'asagaa xummato sammeeyey. wax ilaah ufasaxayuu rabaaye. Qof wayn inuu caytamo waa laga fiican yahay ee afka halla ilaashado. iimaanna waa diine dadka yaan diintooda aflagaadayn, halla xishoodo ilaahna hallag baqo, afkana hallsuubsado waliba qofta dumarka waxaas qortay waa yaab badan tahay aniga xagayga Nabadgalyo
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| | Unrecorded Date to abdul anigaa diyaar ku ah laakiin ma dagani usa
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| | Unrecorded Date Mad Mac. I am sorry I really offended you. I just saw some of your sayings which were completely wrong and I explained why. I tell you, there had been many many christians who were at the front to demolish islam from the roots and became muslims themselves. When Allah decides that you are to enter his mercy and blessings, I think no one will keep you from doing that and let us pray that you become one of us for real. I like nothing more that you become a muslim but my liking has no effect on god's will for he alone decides what is and what is not to happen. okey my friend see you.
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| | Unrecorded Date Coolmankind Abowe, you don't have to worry about offending me. That's pretty much impossible to do.
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| | Unrecorded Date dear mad mac and coolmanking i thought you guys ganna give advice but it seems like you guys are fighting brothers my point was i took her to the doctor almost 4 yrs and the results was she can't have child because her min was turn over on the other side after that i took her agian with different doctor and they said somethinks else so i was very confuse about doctors all i bleive is allah but my wife told me i can married another wife so i don't know what to do ladan thanks for you'r advice abaayo and thanks guys
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| | Unrecorded Date Abdul Sorry 'bout the child thing. Must be tough on the both of you. Hope it all works out. Wish I could give you more advice but I'm definately out of my league on this one. Good luck. Inshallah things will turn your way.
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| | Unrecorded Date Wallallya waad ii salamey, salan kadib wallallo, abdi it take two to reason a family, and it seem to me that you and your wife have done everything in you guys power to have a family, but allah didn't give you, because there reason, which we can't explain. Is not ones fault that either of you can or can't have baby. Wallaalo, I have see lots of ppl who have been together for long time and never had. BUt know that the problem, not be only hers, but also yours too. Wallallo, I had a friend who was marry for 6 years, and when they didn't have any children they deciend to get divores, and both of them got re-marry, now they both have children...My point to you is that, maybe god don't want give you children, but he want's to see if you two have faite on him. Wallallo, I hope you too will find your answers. PPl aren't going to much help. So, pls talk your wife. IF you love her with all your heart, then stay with her, and only her. She might tell you yes, honey you can marry another women, but you never know if she really met it or not. Maybe god help you and your wife.
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| | Unrecorded Date muslimo mad mac thanks guys for giving me alots of anguerage and petters of points the only thing i can do's to put my two hands to allah and ask for help i just love my wife so much and i can't divorse because she can't have child i don't think i can do that' that's out of line' there's alot of people anguerege me to get divorse i don't wanna do that because we have share so many love and fun' my point's my wife told me that i can try my self so iam ask you guys advice what aim going to do could i try or i couldn't try she just wants me to be happy that's all and i love to have childrent that's pleaure and everyone know that i don;t want to have child when i get 40- 50 yrs old it;s good to have in the young age iam thanking to mad mac and muslimo for you;r advice if you can give me more diteal please email me abdul33@hotmail.com thanks for you'r heppy
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| | Unrecorded Date salams to everyone, subhanallah i am astonished to what ma eyes are seeing...are we out of our minds guys? the poor guy only asked for advise not to be ganged upon...ma brother who wanted a second wife ma advise to you is...yes allah has made it halal for muslim men to marry one,two, three,or four so you are allowed to marry with or without your wife's permission another lady...but we have got to remember that there are conditions in which you can take another wife...and you're situation can be considered as one...ok we got that down...i remember reading about a comment a person made...i think it said something about not being able to love two ppl...well i don't think that loving all your wives equally is a condition...allahu a'lam but i've been informed of it not being a condition...amm rasullullah pbuh didn't love all his wives the same so i don't see why anyone else would have to since he's our example...i mean he was the closest human to perfection...so we can try to be like him but will neva reach to his standards...so the love issue is taken care off...but ma concern is can you take that burden...cuz having more than one wife is a burden...a big responsibility i must say brother can a young man in his 20's not that age makes a difference well it can but that's a whole another topic take that kinda of responsibility...it is a HUGE one boy... allah says in the quran "...if you fear that you may not treat orphans with fairness then you may marry other women good to you; two, three, or four of them" allah also states in the following sentence and if you fear that you can't maintain equality among them then marry only one" (4:1)...well ma brother you do have the permission to marry more than one but the question you need to ask yourself is can you treat them equally? and only you can decide that ma brother no one else can do that decision for you...we can give you advises but we can't decide 4 u...i wish the best for you ma brother...pls consider the feelings of your current wife and think hard b4 you get into a situation you'll regret this life and the one to come i hope you don't have to do that insha'allah...and don't forget what is ordained for you, you will get regardless of what you do...but we make our choices brother wassalamu alaikum and allah bless insha'allah sister in islam
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| | Unrecorded Date salams, ohh i made a mistake guys istaghfurllah typing error it is supposed to be "women who seem good to you" not women good to you ...ammm for any mistakes i've made in ma speech it's a shorcoming by me and anything good that came out of it it's a blessing by allah swt wassalam
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| | Unrecorded Date salams, ohh i made a mistake guys istaghfurllah typing error it is supposed to be "women who seem good to you" not women good to you ...ammm for any mistakes i've made in ma speech it's a shorcoming by me and anything good that came out of it it's a blessing from allah swt wassalam
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| | Unrecorded Date Asalaamu Caleykum To: Abdul [if you're only serious about what you're saying] Walaal ma ogtahay in Alle uu maamulo aduunyada oo dhan ogyahay kan qabriga ku jira, kan coloosha ku jira, kan dhalan raba iyo midka gadaaal ka dhalan doona. Ilaahey horey waa uu u jiray, hada waa jiraa, hodhoow waa uu jirayaa sidoo kalena waa og yahay ilmaha jira, kuwa jiri doona iyo kuwa ay sii dhali doonaan. Ilaahey cilmiguusa wax limited ah ma ah ee waa mid wax walba kooba. Adigoon ku ordin xaas kale ayaa waxaa laga yaabaa inaad imtixaanka lagu marinayo ku baastid oo uu Ilaahey kuugu abaal mariyo waxaad jeceshahay oo aad weydiisatid. Khaladka ugu horeeya ha oran lix sano wax ma dhalin, khaladka labaad dhaqtar la tasho oo talo saaro, khaladka sedexaad, xaas labaad ma doontaa saan ilmo u helo adigoo tix raacaya taladii dhakhtarka oo aheyd inaad aamintay xaaskaada inay wax ka si yihiin oo adi aad ilmo kale yeelan karto. Waxaas oo dhan waa failures ee waxaan ku oran lahaa diinta u soo laabo kuna cibro qaado dadka dhibkaas hada ka hor la mariyay kuna baasay. Nabi Ibrahim Allaa u qiray inuu IMTIXAAN weyn mariyay oo lagu yiri wiilkaaga gowarc si riyo ayadoo loo tusay. Ma oran waa riyo ee aan ka fakaro, ma oran waxoogaa ii sug waxyi kale ha ii yimaado ee arintii ayuu ku dhaqaaqay wiilkiisiina wuu la tashaday oo Alla imtixaanka u sahlay markii uu damcay inuu fuliyona neef xoolo ah ayaa lagu maneystay taasna waxay tilmaameysaa sunada CIIDUL ADXAA qowraca inuu meeshaas ka yimid oo uu nabi Ibrahim bilaabay. Waxaa ka mid ah wixii lagu abaal mariyay wiil asagana iyo xaaskiisana ay la yaabeen laguna yiri "Miyaad la yaabeysaan mashii'ada Ilaahey?" Sidoo kale, nabi Zakariya waa asagii loogu bishaareeyay YAXYAA asagoo salaatul LAYL u taagan oo Alle baryaya. Nabiyadaas iyo saalixiin badan ayaa jira ee waqtiga ayaan ii saabexeyn inaan wada xuso ee taladaan iga qaado; Isku day inaad Alle waydiisato awlaad BAARI ah oo jidka Alle dadka ku hanuuniya. Isku day intaadan ducada bilaabin inaad shuruudaheeda fuliso. Iska ilaali inaad dagdagto oo aad quusato (never give up.) Ku toosnoow tiirka Alle hana caasin Alle haduu khalad kaa dhocona samaan raaci Alle weyne waa naxariiste wax cafis jecel. Isku day intaas oo kale ama tarbiyad taasi ka fiican inaad adiga iyo xaaskaaga daa'imtaan oo ducada badisaan idinkoo rajeynaya jawaab (Once again, HA DAGDAGINA) Salaatul-Layl la imood (wixii karaankaaga ah) adigoo ducadaada ku celcelinaya markaad sujuudsan tahay maxaa yeelay markaas ayaad Alle ugu dhowdahay. Daa'im ADKAARUL SABAAX WAL-MASAA'A, iskuna day inaad taladaada Alle kaliya saarato oo aad aaminto inaysan waxaan asaga aheyn ilmo bixin xataa hadaad aroosto afar la hubo inay wax dhalayaan. Imaankaaga waa inuu gaaraa sidii adigoo SUN caba oona ictiqaada inaysan wax kaa tareyn Ilaa haduu Alle kuu qoray ahee. Khalad ha u qaadan ma ku lihi xaas labaad ha doonin ee waxaan ku leeyahay talada Allaa leh ee doctorka ku dheh adigu awood ma lihid but amarka ALUU ka fulaa. Iga raali ahoow hadalkaa ila tagayee.
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| | Unrecorded Date to muslima- loving all your wives equally- is one of the conditions. Read the quran.
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| | Unrecorded Date abdul to muslimo sister thanks you for you'r advice i just don't know what iam going to congraduate you beside saying thanks you sister i read you'r all of them i don't see any mistaken you made i just love what i have seen so far and i love to email you ' talk if that's ok with you hassanan thnx bro for you'r advice mad mac thanks bro what i have seen here was veryone here vulanteers for me to give me adivce and that's wonderfull thanks guys muslimo abaayo email me abdul33@hotmail.com thanks sister salaamu c/kum
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| | Unrecorded Date salams to all of ma wonderful brother and sisters, to anonymous, thank you for your attempt to correct me but i don't eva remember hearing or reading anywhere in the quran or the sunnah that loving your wives equally is a condition...but if i'm wrong pls feel free to correct me but only with a daleel (prove) from either the quran or the sunnah...rasoolulaah pbuh did not love his wives the same he loved aisha the most so i don't see why anyother muslim would have to do so...ohh yeah let's not forget to mention that he was the best of mankind (our example)so why would it be compulsory for men to love their wives the same when it is impossible to do so?again feel free to correct me pls... if you're a lady anonymous i can understand where you're coming from i maself would've probably said the same thing a while back but ma sibling in islam we've got to be objective and keep the religion as it is as much as we like to make the religion as convenient to ourselves we've got to be rational about certain situations and be as concise to the point as possible i appologize for whomsoeva i've offended in anyway including you anonymous but do respond pls cuz i'd like be corrected but don't forget the ayas or the sound hadith aight insha'allah jazakumalahu khairan wassalamu alaikum warahmah
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