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     | Unrecorded Date I heard that some of the people responsible for dragging the bodies of American Soldiers through the streets of Hamer were punished by Islamic Courts. Can anyone tell me if this is true and if so what punishment they received.
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama `alaykum muslims, mac, well, those activities were done by animals who had no one shred of humanity in them, as far as i'm concerned. no matter how much of an 'enemy' no one deserves such treatment. it was despicable and made me sick to my stomach. not only is it un-islamic...but it was un-somalic, as well. it still to this day bothers me that such people exist among my people -- animals...who have no knowledge of civilization and morality of any kind. such people should never be allowed to exist among our people or our culture. i'm from the darood side of the somalis, and my tribe doesn't live in mogadishu area since 91. however, those people were my people...and it scares me that they are my people...and that they are capable of such thing. yes, i too, heard that they were punished by islamic courts -- and some of them to this day reside in jail. but what i don't understand is -- how could those people be found??? and from the news, etc -- it seemed...that the whole city(or at least large population) were OKAY with this -- which scares me even more. peace - ahmad
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| | Unrecorded Date You know it's funny but I wasn't repelled as much as everyone else seems to have been. Don't get me wrong - I didn't approve. But it was easy to see how everyone got caught up in the violence of the whole thing. I mean, I'm a pretty civil guy but I was ready to see the Black Sea area of Mog destroyed and I was ready to help do it. So I don't judge those people that harshly myself. But I had heard that some of them were tried and I was just curious if it was true. FYI I have a lot of Darood friends. Mostly Majertain but some Marehan. I knew a really special Darood woman whom I would have married but I'm gaal and that was that. Thanks for the info Abowe.
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama `alaykum muslims, mac, well, to non-somalis, such thing is 'acceptable' considering the involvements. however, i'm somali...i know my people and i love my people. it's just hard to accept such thing as 'acceptable' -- not that i'm saying you're. you didn't 'approve' it -- i despised it...and was sick to my stomach. and, mac, all somali women are really special. what i like best about somali women is that they're INDEPENDENT as far as emotional goes. peace - ahmad
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| | Unrecorded Date I don't disagree on the issue of the woman. But this woman was REALLY special - to me. We worked together for a long time and I formed an emotional bond to her. She was also very classy and elegant with a wonderful and generous family. We're still close, but I'm definately not what she's looking for. I love her like a sister though, there's nothing I woulnd't do for her. My family really likes her too. They would have been ecstatic if we'd gotten together. Just wasn't in the cards I guess.
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama `alaykum muslims, mac, yup -- sounds a sad/romantic story. i should write a book about it! lol! ;) peace - ahmad
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| | Unrecorded Date Not a sad story. She's a great friend - and good friends that you can trust aren't so easy to find either. When I went to Eastleigh to do my Somali thing her brother made sure I didn't get my ass shot off. I really like the family. Of course, her mom and dad spent plenty of time talking to me about Islam. It was really very nice. And man can her mom cook.
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama alaykum muslims, mac, lol! yes, our mames -- can really cook thier recipes off to a great taste of just drooling-zone. why would you be shot off in eastleigh? yes, it is a somali city in a non-somali country. however, somalis there are foreigners themselves. well, lets just say i'm glad it's not a sad story. heck, i hate them saddy tales. ;D peace - ahmad
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| | Unrecorded Date Are you kidding? Do you know how many American Soldiers who fought the SNA go to Eastleigh and loudly proclaim who and what they are? I would venture to say I'm the only one. OK, a shooting was probably less likely than a stabbing, but you've got the idea here. Actually though, everyone was very hospitable. It was really verynice and I was very happy I went. I was also happy that I was so well received by my former enemies. I plan to go again in October depending on how things shake out with my girlfriend and when I depart here.
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| | Unrecorded Date Knock !!! KNOCK!!!! Knock!!!!!!!! Is this place open for puplic or is it open for only you 2?????? I really liked the way you 2 are responding back to each other. I guess it would be wise idea if I stay back and observe Thanks
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama alaykum muslims, mac, lol! hahahah! ok -- ya got a point. eastleigh is not all that safe. but, actually, truth be told...somalis are very sweet enemies. ;) annonymous, hahahaha! knock yerself out! :D peace - ahmad
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| | Unrecorded Date assalamu alaikum warahmah muslims and muslimahs, lol, lol, lol!! man i just couldn't help from laughing out loud after reading you're little dialogue there...you guys are quite interesting dudes man...ohh now how somali of me to just drop in this conversation and start conversing without getting an invitation by ya'll...ok now am i wlc here? ohh how nice of you fellas to answer me so fast...eh yo mad mac...man you sure you're not somali who's a gaal? man what's up with you knowing all these tribes thing here?...you know about tribes, and politics you sure you're just john and not abdi farah aden? man i've gotta wonder you know with all your interest in somalia and somalis...boy i think you might've like got lossed way back in time from us (somalis) and just got lucky in 92 and found your ppl again...you're just an interesting dude...quite interesting i've gotta say... hey how much of our language can you understand/speak? ahmed are you the same ahmed that has some issues with islam/muslims? some dude who posted up a message that i was definitely not happy with man ( ican't rememberit at the moment)...could it be you?...cuz if that's the case we got some issues you know...anyone who says anything against islam i have...and will always have some serious issues with... ok guys if you could check a website that belongs to a young talented brother of mine it would be quite appreciate it www.keinaan.com. actually you can just click on the icon on the left hand side of the screen and it'll get you to his website thank you well dudes i must run so take care and stay true to your creator and yoselves...tata wassalamu alaikum warahmah ya-muslimoon
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| | Unrecorded Date Muslimaah I've been accused of all sorts of bad things - some true and some not. But no one says I'm not interesting. I've lived Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Haiti, Germany and the states. My Somali is terrible 50-60 words. I am definately a non-Somali. But you know how it is. You obssess on something and you're lkely to learn more and more about it. That's kind of what happened to me. Also, I'm in the intel field so if I didn't learn something I'd have had to be pretty stupid. What bothers me is I'm starting to learn as much about Bosnia. There just isn't room in my life for two obsessions.
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| | Unrecorded Date Salaama Caleykum Dear: Muslimah Abaayo what you mean young talanted brother, I visited there and i met songs using bad words like a F* word you mislead us may Allaah forgive you i was expecting Muslimah sister not Musician.
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| | Unrecorded Date assalamu alaikum warahmah, sumaya dear i have not yet listen to the album, i've actually heard two songs in the album long time ago...b4 he decided to record it and i can't remember ever hearing any profanity, but that was long time ago, and he has done some changes since then...he has revised it,remixed it howeva you wanna put it...but as far as talent goes ma boy is talented no doubt...i don't know whether there are profane words in the album or not...dear sister ma intention was not to mislead anyone or offend anyone but to just support ma brother that's all...and as far as me being muslimah goes that's b/ween ma lord and i...not anyone else...i ain't no musician nor am i anything but a young muslim sista...so sister if you were offended then you shouldn't listen to it ever again i hope there are no hard feelings...may allah forgive us all and guide us to the right path wassalamu alaikum warahmah
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama `alaykum muslims, muslimah, yes, i'm the very same ahmad -- who has issue with TRADITIONAL islam...not islam, mind you. i love islam and i love my god -- and that is NOT the issues, not at all. sorry to dissapoint ya. second, i visited the site -- and whoa...a rap diggy style. i don't like rap -- at general. the only rap that i like is willie's(will smith) -- only because it's the REAL, possitive, nice kind of rap...not whacky rap. i think i'll pass this album. the site didn't have anything but the music...and i did not like the music. now, now, this is not to say that his music is bad or anything -- i just, personally, don't like it. for others, they have the right to like it or dislike it. i won't bad mouth it -- and that is that. also, you won't have issues with me when the push comes to shove -- we are, at the end of the day, MUSLIMS. and those who 'hate' muslims -- hate us both...the SAME. take care. peace - ahmad!
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| | Unrecorded Date Now mind you I'm not much of a rapper myself. But I have to admit Coolios Gangster's Paradise - while not really a rap song was written and sung my a rapper - is a great tune. And Whitey Ford sings the Blues is great music with a great message but you've got to pay close attention to it or you would think it's sick and profane. The "F" word, when properly used, can have a strong communicative effect.
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| | Unrecorded Date assalamu alaikum warahmah, ahmed...ok now that you've made it clear that it's the mixture of islam and culture and not the fundamentals of islam then i agree with you 100% on having problems with it...i guess a little misunderstanding there...but all solved now i think...hey you don't like the music? man wuz up with that? i heard it's really good i haven't had the chance to listen to it yet but i will insha'allah...so you don't like rap? well i don't either, well not hip hop in general just certain artists and their works that's all...but i like hip hop overall...well w/o the profanity and the disrespect for females... what are your issues with the traditional islam as you put it if you don't mind me asking? i got some issues of ma own with our ppl and how they make the religion seem... im sorry you didn't like the website...and sorry to also have wasted your time both you and sumaya...well i must run now take care and may allah bless and guide us all to the path of the righteous insha'allah wassalamu alaikum warahmah
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| | Unrecorded Date Salaama Caleykum Dear: Sumaya As you know Islam says Music is haram listening so abaayo advertising haram too, i can call Talented someone who fear Allaah not Musicians w ho insulted another ppl.
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| | Unrecorded Date assalamu alaikum warahmah, sumaya walaalo this topic is a debatable topic so why don't we talk about it with just the two of us i'll give you ma email and if you can email me yours pls jazakumallahu khairan wassalamu alaikum warahmah africanprincess1999@yahoo.com
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama alaykum muslims, mac & muslimah, i just don't like the kind rap which insults others. yes, it can have really good tunes -- but what a weird feeling i get when i hear the lyrics, etc. as i said, i like some rappers -- such as willie. that is not the point. and hip hop, over all, is not a bad thing. i like lauryn, eve, dmx, aaliyah, etc etc etc -- but they too can have some pretty nasty lyrics...ok -- not most of the time. peace - ahmad
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| | Unrecorded Date Check. I can deal with profanity - as in Whitey Fords "What it's Like" - when they're in the context of something with substance. When it's just a bunch of garbage or it's focused on putting someone else down, that's when I don't have any stomach for it. Ever listen to Johnny Clegg and Savuka? I really like his music. He has a song that Muslimah would relate to "Third World Child". If you want to hear something from my Khabil, try "The Seer". I like them a lot too.
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| | Unrecorded Date Mac mad there is absolutely no need of insulting Muslimah! Can we now behave like mature adults plz!
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| | Unrecorded Date Trash Hater When did I insult Muslimah??? If I did so trust me, it was purely inadvertant. I like Muslimah.
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| | Unrecorded Date to ahmed i knew that you are duuruud tribe from the bigining but let me ask you what you said my peoble are not there in hamar since 91 what happen to them and stop tolking my peoble i hope you got it
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| | Unrecorded Date Actually Darood isn't a tribe, it's a clan. Not that I'm nitpicking here. What happened to them? They split before they were killed - like any sensible human would do. Be advised his sub-clan is not Siad Barres, not that that should make a difference. One of the nicest guys I know is Marehan.
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama alaykum muslims, ciise, brother, what the heck are you talking about? i did not get anything you said. mac, huh? actually, mac -- daarrood lives the most land in somalia today. the tribe hawiyya resides today in mogadishu -- and some other small states in the country between baladweyne and to banaadir. the daarrood tribe only 'split' from mogadishu -- which was never theirs, to begin with. it was a hawiyya town -- it was founded, lived, and was made liveable by none except hawiyya. so, actually, in all fair, hawiyya did not take anyone's land...which is probably what you have been told. i'm a daarrood -- who actually loves all somalis the same. my best friend...who i love very much -- is a hawiyya. this is because i know in the end -- we are ALL somalis. and when and if the push comes to shove, we are them -- faradheer(a nick-name for 'somalis')...that their neighbors always hated/envied/dispised...the SAME. besides this, all somalis are inter-married and most of the somalis are cross-tribed(a father/mother different tribe, etc) even though my parents are both daarrood and that my grand-parents are daarrood, still...i have seen and know many many many many people whose family are federation -- and have different back-grounds, etc. peace - ahmad
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| | Unrecorded Date axmed, intaad khaniisnimo hadda ka baxdey buunbuuninteedii maad noo gashey qabiilka dhinaciisa?. Darod baa iska gacan galey mar haddii abeeso adoo kale ah laga dhex helo. Ha sheegan dadka mulxid yohow ilaahey iyo rasuulkiisa ka furtey.
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| | Unrecorded Date True enough Hamer is in the "•••••• Zone". But the property that people were driven from - homes and things, in Hamer, belonged to their legal owners regardless of Clan. Also, the •••••• control up to Galcaio over to Hobyo. That's considerably further north than Beledweyne. Additonally, the Galjel extend down to Wanle Weyne, alhtough the area from Afgooye south to Wanle Weyne has a mix of ••••••, Rahanweyne, and Dir. Anyway, while Hamer was gounded by the ••••••, the growth of the city was due to its national focus and all clans contributed to that.
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama alaykum muslims, annonymous, qabiil wax xun oo ku jira baa iska yar. ilaahay baa na siiyay. kuwa alle ka cabsada...waa kuwa si wanaagsan u isticmaala oo aan qalqiga alle oo kale aan ku dhibin. kud ka guur oo qanje u guur baan maqli jirey -- soomaalida intay qabiil ummada ilaahay ku laayaan...bay hadana intay dhinaca kale u jeestaan inkiraan nimcooyinka ilaahay siiyay. kuwaas waxaa ka mid ah -- sidaada oo kale kuwa inkiraya magacyada ilaahay siiyay oo "lama yaqaan" iyo wax baas dusha iska saarey. sida isku dhaan...hadii aad tahay mid bulsho iyo wanaag ka fakaraya. mac, you are right, the properties belonged to rightfully its owners. however, the likeness of that is that of israel, between palestinians and the jews -- which is sad. no matter how it came to be, the land was hawiyyas'...and the daarrood who settled there have no blame on them -- however, it wasn't theirs, either. let me tell yah a story -- when the daarrood came to the "land of somaale", daarrood lived the land of barri(west)...which is what is today the state of barri -- which sits under arabia. the first generation -- the fathers of daarrood(sade, tanade, kablalah, iise, etc) -- were among the inhabitants of the land of barri. this time, the land of barri had the tribe Dir...which was a tribe among the hawiyyas. when their father died, the five sons of daarrood made a pact -- that they would make the land flow with seed of their father(who left his family of semites to this unknown land). they went all the sides of the land of somaale. kablalah -- remained barri. two sons of kablalah's were married to sade and tanade's daughters. kablalah had a daughter -- and she was married to one of tanade's son. kablalah never intermarried with Dir -- and later when kablalah got larger, they kicked the dir into south. to this day, the eldest grandson of kablalah - majeerteen -- is distinct among the people of the daarrood. they are the most light-skinned. ciise went to ethipia side(what is today 'north' or waqooyi) -- through wars with the inhabitants, isaac, iise's line died out...almost. in 1989 less than 100 iise could be found in somalia. sadde went to the land of guduud(what is today gal-guduud) -- where hawiyya resided. he existed among them...and he and the hawiyyas liked each other. and he married hawiyya women...as did his children and their children and so on. sade became succesful to the pact. tanade went to the land of mudugle(what is today mudug). the land of mudugle was not far off from guduud...and similar hawiyyas tribes lived there. tanade remained among them...and inter-married with them. his first wife belonged to one of the kingdom's family. he was the only daarrood -- who was what they explained him to be; a "wadaad"(meaning a religious.) for whatever the reason, his line...remained that way. to this day, they gain the nick-name "xer" among their people...which again means; "religious" or "religion obsessed"...or similar to that, concerning religion. warsen geli...went to north and also got VERY close to becoming non-existant. one of kablalah's grandsons, dhulbahante, moved with his sons to the same region. later the two people got stronger together. however, to this day, warsengeli is STILL much more less in number. as you can see, NONE of the daarrood line moved to what is today 'banaadir'. later, centuries later, kablahlah's grandson's lines...some majeerteen and some ogaadeen -- went to the land of juba(what is today...kismaayo, etc -- jubada hoose). these caravans came through ethiopia and gedo -- far from banaadir. daarrood never seen the land of abgaal(banaadir area) until late 18th century. the very first families made a settlement in the early 20th century. daarrood used to come and go in the land of shabeele...where the sea was much more calmer than that of the land of juba. suddenly, in the middle of 20th century(40s-60s) daarrood, especially the family of majeerteen and mareehaan...made alot of settlements in the land of abgaal. and in the early 80s, nearly 80% of mareehaan settled banaadir. the tribe abgaal...has cultural songs which date back to as far as 12 century...and some as early as 4th century. some of these songs -- today -- contain words which the abgaal does not understand...because it is SO old of their dialect(abgaal has its own dialect and words...unlike any other somali tribe which speak somali language!) there are regions...which share dialects -- such as north and deep south(such as...jubada hoose). however, such dialects is not preserved for tribe...as much as abgaalic dialect...which is really beautiful. OKAY - i guess it was a long story...lol! peace - ahmad!
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| | Unrecorded Date Interesting story. You didn't mention the Ogadeni. Any reason they got left out of this mostly Darood tale. Humouros little anecdote, the guy who huided me around Eastleigh last September and who translated for me was Majertain. One day when I was walking down 7th Street in Eastleigh some guy yells out to me (I was alone) "Hey Majertain" I thought that was pretty funny.
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama alaykum muslims, mac, i was telling you of the BIG guys...kablalah, tanade, sade, iise, etc etc -- those little ones(like dhulbahante, majeerteen, etc) just happened to cross the story. to tell THE WHOLE generations and their stories...and inhabitants would take a WHOLE book. lol! what, we have a very rich history, mad mac. that is just darood story -- hawiyyas' is just simply MORE AND MORE interesting than that...since hawiyya was in the land much longer than darood. it is also much complicated and it is just WOW WOW! therefore, to get into all somali family stories -- well, lets just say...it would take VOLUMES!!! believe it or not, eastliegh was my favorite spot in nairobi. hhhhmmm -- it was just a SOMALI village. hey, they should name her that -- SOMALI TOWN. heehehe! and, yes, somalis have a very nutty sense of humor. ;) peace - ahmad
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| | Unrecorded Date Ahmad Being in Eastleight was like being in Hamer minus the guns and ocean. I really liked it there - but there's no night life so at night I headed over to Parklands. Also, the damn place is so dusty that if you go there with a white T-shirt it's an off shade of brown by the time you left. Still, east to find people to argue with. And since I was the only white guy hanging out there it made me kind of a novelty. That was cool. How long were you in Nairobi for?
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| | Unrecorded Date Ahmed, i see, you were claiming to bring a new more "enlightened religion" to us!, but actually you seem to be bringing more of same old racial fairy tales; that the daaroods who are half of the Somali nation, "actually, in the beginning were ONLY one man who came from arabia, while the Hawiyas always lived there. The ONE guy multiplied to become half the population but changed to somali language, while The •••••• couldn't do more than to be the second half. And that the majeerteens are "the most light skinned". Is that really what you are preaching in the forumss in this 21 century; crude tribalism and plain lies, man, you are a disgrace. Go get lost. Thats all i can say.
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| | Unrecorded Date Lol@@@Ahmad, man what a story!!! You have taken the re-invention of Somalia to the point of ridicule!!!!!!!! How come you didn't highlight how we are related to the tutsis and some tribes in Chad and north Cameroon. By the way, do more research on the Warsangeli....a huge diaspora have settled in many countries centuries ago, and not only in Arabian countries such as Yemen, oman, Saudi Arabia, sudan, India etc. Maybe some of the black people all in Euro-Asia were originally Somali travellers who settled there. Hey, maybe Pushkin?? (Russian poet/writer extraordinaire) had Warsangeli blood!!!! Did you see the program on 60 minutes that showed how black South Africans jews were gentically related to other white jews. DNA testing proved this!!!!!!!!!!! That is what we need in Somalia. Discalimer: I am not warsangeli.
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama alaykum muslims, warsame, brother, what are you talking about??? fyi, i'm daarrood -- and it is a fact that darood, as well as hawiyye, was a travellor who just loved the beautiful land. just because hawiyye came first, doesn't mean hawiyye was the people who lived there forever. the people who lived there were the family of somaale -- who emigrated to this land after somaale had a family dispute with his older brother kupris -- who was the man who the kikuyus of today descended from. neither the darood or the hawiyye were these people...but people who do not exist today. the only people left of them are the ajuuraan -- who are less than 1% in somalia today. i, specifically, looked for them and only found two women -- who were both madi(only child and didn't know where their relatives are today...etc). it was not coicidence that both women were madi...and that both women had only daughters, as children...and the two women are not even related(not closer than ajuuraan.) as you can see from my post, i was only focusing on the daarrood family. the hawiyya story is much more deeper...and longer and complex than the story(ies) of daarrood. since they existed in the land centuries before daarrood, hawiyye existed the land. that is a fact -- and no one is denying that. i, personally, believe that hawiyye came from india -- since 'hawiyyar' is ancient name in india...which correspondes with hawiyya. somalis don't even know what 'hawiyya' means -- while indians know what it means. i, also, personally believe that daarrood was a syrian-hebrew...of father of hebrew and mother of syrian. because his mother was not hebrew -- jews today would not consider somalis as "jews," if it was proved that daarrood was actually a hebrew. daarrood was muslim...and was considered 'arab' in the land...since his father's name was 'ishmael' and his grandfather 'jabarthi'(both being syrian and hebrew ancient names -- arabs did not name. and fyi, syrians of that time were not arabs, by the way...) and, as far as the horn of african people of somaale were concerned, anyone who came from that side of the world was simply "arab" -- egyptians who are mizraim...and not arabs were considered 'arabs'. as for daarrood being half of somalis -- that is a true which i agree with you...however, hawiyyas...are similar another half...that is if all those who claim to be hawiyyas are counted...including dir. you must consider the fact that hawiyya was persecuted for the last century...as people in somalia -- always sought them as "inferiors" by the daarrood family -- this has to do with their mediteranian past and heritage. hawiyyas do not see daarrood as "inferiors" at all...why many daarrood people do see the hawiyyas as an "inferior" race among somalis. "hawiyye daba madoobe" is not a slang that came just yesterday...but a long prejudice standpoint of the daarrood family against these people. with the exception of the northern daarrood, such as dhulbahante and warsengeli, etc -- who naturally have no contact with the hawiyya people. those are facts, warsame...wheather you agree with them or not. personally, i do not see any race being any inferior -- but i belief all men are equal in the eyes of god. and, fyi, the "fairy tales" are all we have...for NOW. when and if we have established a world...and can verify our geneology and relations...then and only then can there be "fairy tales" -- until then, lets keep ALL versions alive. instead of insulting me...and going on and on how 'crudly' triablist i'm, why not do us all favor and give us your versions? ;) ta-ta! Xaali, HAHAHAHA! LOL! the study also showed that palestinians and the israelites were related -- something that I ALWAYS knew. the palestinians and jews are EXACTLY the same; they hate the same, they insult the same, they decieve the same, they are truly SAME people. dna? somalis? well, i'm counting on it...aren't ya? ;D MAC, i lived, on and off about 3 years. i travelled around kenya -- garrisa, NFD...mombasa, utange, namanga, etc. parklands? i don't remember that...what side of nairobi is that? i once lived holligahm...and boy -- there is not many somalis there. :(...but there was always eastliegh for me. peace - ahmad!
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| | Unrecorded Date The darrooods are syrian and hebrew and the hawiyye came from india.!!!! @LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL It seems to me if the darooods are from in the land of sham/israel, they were the slaves that Moses freed and said LET MY PEOPLE GO from FIRCOON and if the hawiyye came froom india, they were the untouchables.@LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL
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| | Unrecorded Date Ahmed, Waaaw... it is getting even more creamy..!! I really thought you were more educated and civilized than this. I can now even put your "brand new religion" in the wider context of your personnality!! Are you aware of what you are saying?. The daaroods descended from Tel-Aviv and the hawiyas from Bombay, and then ...kind of met in Somalia!!. And of course as a bit unstable guy who likes to draw attention to himself that you are, you deviated from the classical fairy tale that we are Quraysh and the sons and daughters of Prophet...and brought in the picture of the jews and indians!. But you didn't comment on the light skin thing?!. As for my version, why don't we skip, for once, these abundant and extremely growing versions and look at how the "scinece" sees things. Books of many disciplines about Somalis conclude that Somalis are of ONE origin, speak the cushitic language with which they share the oromos and afars... with. It was somalis who were trading with the Pharaons in the land of PUNT more than 4000 years ago. That the Horn of Africa is one of the first places the human beings has ever settled. That's also the view of the common sense. We aren't strange people from our environment to conclude that we have to come from places so far as Tel-Aviv and Bombay!. If you look at the oromos, afars, ethiopians, eritereans... you see we are not different from our neighbors and that we belong to the places we live in. Also, despite your light-skin thing, it is obvious to any sensible person that we, somalis are ONE people, who share every thing. The tribes are mythical inventions the nomads - later culturally dominated by the arabs - had to come up with. That's why we got daaroods, hawiyas, isaaqs... claiming being of arab origin!!. It's exactly such views of yours- that some of us came from mars while others from venus, and that we don't belong to the country- that made our country in shatters today. Anyway, as i see now that your writings doesn't even deserve to be commented on. So keep on and give us more surprises!
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| | Unrecorded Date I LOVE THIS JOKE: The daaroods descended from Tel-Aviv and the hawiyas from Bombay. I LOVE THIS JOKE TOO: we are Quraysh and the sons and daughters of Prophet. BUT I LOVE THIS JOKE THE MOST: That the Horn of Africa is one of the first places the human beings has ever settled.--------------THEN, IF THIS IS THE CASE, ADAM AND HAWA WERE THE FIRST SOMALI PEOPLE----THE FIRST HUMAN BEING ON SOMALIA. @LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL
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| | Unrecorded Date LOL, the last one wasn't a joke stupid!. Do you speak English?!
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| | Unrecorded Date Someone once said---something about the Somalis (jokinly). He said: When God first created the human soul----one by one---nation by nation---race by race---tribe by tribe----and He finished the creation of souls, Satan looked at every race, tribe, nation, but when Satan looked at the Somalis, he laughted at the Somali souls. @LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL. Satan knew that he was going to pull a trick on us----into believing that we are descendant of Arab/Jewish race and if this trick does not work, he will let us believe that every human race descended from a Somali father and mother who landed in Horn of Africa-----that crooked horn in the map. @LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL
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| | Unrecorded Date I love this bunch line by ahmad >>>>>>>you must consider the fact that hawiyya was persecuted for the last century...as people in somalia -- always sought them as "inferiors" by the daarrood family -- this has to do with their mediteranian past and heritage. hawiyyas do not see daarrood as "inferiors" at all...why many daarrood people do see the hawiyyas as an "inferior" race among somalis. "hawiyye daba madoobe" is not a slang that came just yesterday...but a long prejudice standpoint of the daarrood family against these people. <<<<< @LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL I wonder how did the daarroods find out that the other Somalis(the hawiiye who have indian heritage) have black ass ""hawiyye daba madoobe" and how did the hawiyye dind out that the other Somalis(the darroods who have mediteranin heritage) have white ass "daarrood daba cadood"? @LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL@LOL
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama alaykum muslims, warsame, i left you a message in the forums...please respond to that...as it's my respond to this article. LOL@LOL, ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING!!! HAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WOW! WOW! You are definitely a comedian -- if you ever need any 'references' lemme know! darn, funny as hell!(ok, hell is not funny!) i was saying the 'inferior' thing -- because it is true. the daarrood are more 'opperssor' than the hawiyyas. by no means, some hawiyyas stooped so low that even do not deserve commenting, but over all hawiyya...is more respectable than most daarrood. just look at the hawiyya and the daarrood in the civil war. the hawiyya borrowed slang from north(isaaqq) which was "faqqash"(which was used for mareehaan in that region) but hawiyya later applied to all daarrood. however, that shows they did not have "long" oppressive...as the darrood. since the phrase "hawiyye daba madoobe" existed since...god knows. i like your way of doing things! truly keeping me entertained, thanks! oh, and by the way, i agree with you -- we all have JOKES and nothing but that. i hope someday we will more solid stuff than the 'versions'. peace - ahmad!
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| | Unrecorded Date I do not need refferences. I love the different versions(THE JOKES). Please keep them coming. Thanks.
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| | Unrecorded Date Ahmad You know I couldn't honestly tell you which side Parklands was on. I didn't really pay attention - guess I should have. It's about 5 km from Eastleigh as the crow flies, about 30-45 minutes depending on the traffic - via matatu. Had a pleasant nightlife. A few too many white people. There's something I don't like about the whites in Africa - very bigoted. It's really annoying. They're rude and obnoxious. Of course, I hate to paint everyone with the same brush, I'm sure there's plenty who are decent people, but by and large their attitudes and for that matter the attitudes of the wealthy blacks, was damn annoying. Mombassa was OK but I prefer Nairobi. Atmosphere is a little lighter. Course I spent only 3 days in Mombassa so maybe I didn't give it a fair chance. I'd like to go up to LAMU on my next trip in October.
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| | Friday, June 16, 2000 - 01:14 am If I see you in Lamu I will burn your ass.That is a promise you moron-suffering from double personality syndrome.After participating in killing of my fellow somalis and boasting that you were there as USA marine.Iam a somali living in Lamu and God help you if I see you in Lamu.
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| | Saturday, July 01, 2000 - 05:40 am =abbas osman, where the hell is lamu?is it angola or indonesia? mac, you talking about one cheap filty american dragged on the streets of mogadishu. well, can you tell me where the blood of thousand of inoccent men,woman,and chilren whatever tribe they were? the rest, the origin of somali decendant came from vikings.
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| | Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 04:09 am Abbas Osman Yet another Somali who wants to go one on one with The Mad One. Well, sahib, should I decide to go to Lamu where can I find you? I'll be happy to go a few rounds - just you and me. I only weight 125 pounds, that should be nothing for a tough guy like you. Koroow Lamu is in Kenya. All I did was ask a question, I didn't get all fired up about it. You want to know why all those SNA supporters got killed (please don't generalize, the vast majority of Somalis supported us when I was there. Outside of Central Mog I was greeted in a very friendly manner)? I'll tell you why, because they were trying to kill us. You play with matches and you're gonna get burned. Now that's the first time I ever heard that one, that Somalis are decendants fromt he vikings. Very interesting theory.
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