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WHERE R THE LEARNED BROS & SIS IN ISLAM: U KNOWLEDGE IS NEEDED HERE!

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Islam (Religion): Archive (Before Sept. 29, 2000): WHERE R THE LEARNED BROS & SIS IN ISLAM: U KNOWLEDGE IS NEEDED HERE!
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TREASURE SEEKER

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ASALAM ALLEYKUM
MY DEAR BROS & SISTERS IN ISLAM COULD ANY LEARNED BROTHER OR SISTER TELL ME WHAT IS THE HUKUM OF ORAL SEX?
I MEAN IS IT ACCEPTABLE OR NOT. PLEASE BE BRIEF IN U ANSWER.
THANKS.

SOMALI VERSION:
WALALAHA ISLAAM AH WAXAAN IDINKACODSANAYAA IN AAD IGA SIISAAN JAWAAB WAXAY DIINTA KAQABTO ISUTAGIDA HAWEENEYDA IYO NINKA EE AFKA ISAGATAGA ( GUSTA OO AY UNUUGTO & CARABKA OO UU KAMARIYO FURJIGEEDA)

NB. XISHOOD MALAHA DIINDA EE BIFADLIKUM CIDII ULEH AQOON SIDA AXAADIIS SAHIH AH IYO AYAD KUMUNAASAB AH FADLAN IGA SOOJAWAAB ADIGOO SOOQORAYO NAMBARKA HADISKA & AYAADABA.
SHUKRAN LAKUM!!!!

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Anonymous

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acudubillahi mina shaydaani rajiim.

subxaanallaah.

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Anonymous

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Su'aashaan waxbadan baa lagahadlay ma'aqaan in hal qof soo celcelinaayo iyo in ay yihii dad kala duwan!.

Jawaabtu waa MABANAANA oral sex daliilkaana qaado.
FAMAN IBTAQAA WARA'A DAALIKA FA ULAA'IKA HUMUL CAADUUN qofkii dalba intaas kagadaal(inta sharcigu u baneeyay)wuxuu kamid yahay kuwa xad gudbay.

Sidookale aayad kale ayaa oranaysa F'ATUUHUN MINXAYTHU AMARAKUMULLAAHU ugutaga(dumarka)meeshii ilaahay idin amray.

waxaan filaya in aad kuqanci doonto.

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muslimah

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assalamu alaikum warahmah,

brother if you really wanna know about this go to these sites and i think you'd find an answer...www.islam-qa.com, or www.soundvision.com...and check the forums/discussion you'll find it there

may allah guide us to the right path

your sister in islam muslimah

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muslimah

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Cajiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiib an Cajjjiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiib where have we gonne wrong subhanallah

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treasure seeker

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to muslima,
thankx for the site , iam gonna visit it inshallah.

to anonymous,
waad kumahadsantahay Ayaha karimka ah ee aad soodaliishatay. marka hore waa sheegtay ayada ( FAmanibtaqaa ........ ilaa iyo dhamadkeeda)
lakiinse ayadaas waxey mancineysaa zinada taasina shaki kumajiro.
ayada kale wan fahmay oo waxaad kawadaa waxaan banaaneyn meeshi Alla ugutalagalay meelaan ka'ahayn in ay qoyska isqaba isagatagaan.

Akhiiran su'aashan waa sual lai weydiiyay oo jawaab munaasab ah laigarabo marka ha uqaadanina in ay ciyaal suuqnimo tahay. waayo ALLE waa tuu Yiri ( FAS'ALUU AHLA DHIKRA INKUNTUM LAA TACLAMUUNA)marka hadii aad jawaabteeda garaneysaan fadlan waa wax laidinkabaahanyahay inaad faafaahin kabixisaan.
mahadsanidin!!!

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jayte

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Treasure seeker,

Ka warran nin caalim ah ee diintiisa lagu kalsoonyahay ee waqtigaan xaadirka ah nool hadaad rabtana lagu siin karo tel iyo fax uu leeyahay, ka warran haduu ku yiraahdo diinta islaamka wax xaaraantinimeeynayo oo cad ineey gabadha ninkeeda u nuugto ma jiraan! sidoo kale ninkana haduu u leefo wax cad ee xaaraan ka dhigayo malahan! Laakinse waxaa jira arrin dhab ah oo ka yimid dhanka dabeecadda oo ah in dadku aysan caadaysan in ay ficilkaas oo kale ku dhaqaaqaan, maadaama aanan laga caada yeelan ficilkaas asaga ah dadku waxay ula muuqataa inuu xaaraan yahay, xaqiiqaduse waxay tahay buu yiri shiikhaas hadii la doono culima badan kasoo horjeesatee wuxuu yiri wax daliil cad ah ee cadeeynaya majirto.

Bal arrinkaas ka warran hee waa la hayaa asagana. OO yaan loo arkin dooda in la daba jaray.

Hadaad rabto inaan ku siiyo sheekha magaciisa iyo telephonkiisa iyo meesha uu ka sheegay hadalkaan igalasoo xiriir emailkayga ku qoran usernamka email ayuu isu badalayaa hadaad ka qajacsiiso.

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FU'AADKHADAR

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ASSLALAAMU CALAYKUM
ALLAA MAHAD LEH NAGA DHIGAY ISLAAM
NABADGELYO IYO NAXARIIS FARABADAN NEBIGEENA KORKIISA HA AHAATO
INTAAS KADIB;

Walaalahayga Muslimiinta ahoow ALLE KA BAQA
maxaa yeelay ALLE wuxuu QUR'AANKA ku yiri "ALLE KA BAQA WUU IDIN BARIYE"

Walaalkayga su'aasha soo qoray waxaan oran lahaa
MA OGTAHAY walaal waxa ALLE iyo RASUULKIISUBA ayku magcaabeen ama ugu yeereen LABADAAS meelood oo dadka laga celcelinaayo ama ay u fakfakanayaan inay isu NUUGAAN ama ISU CARABIYAAN? (walcayaadu billaahi)!!!

Waxay ALLE iyo RASUULKIISU Cawrada ugu magac dareen XUMAANTA waxayna ugu yeereen (SAW'AAT) ama labada meeloodee XUNXUN.

TUSAALE; AAYADA SUURATUL AL ACRAAF KU JIRTA WUXUU ALLE YIRI IYADOO SHAYDAANKA LAGA HADLAYEY IYO INUU MAR WALBA JECEL YAHAY XUMAAN AGJOOGIDA WUXUU RABAA SHAYDAAN INUU DHARKA IDINKA SIIBO (LIYURIYAHUMAA ZAW'AATIHIMAA).

Cawrada waxaa lagu tilmaamay wax xun!!!!!!!

Waxaa kaloo la amaanay CARABKA oo ah meesha ALLE lagu xuso, waxaana la ina amray inaan nadiifino oo xittaa CUNTADII xalaasha inoo ahayd ka CADAYANO ama ugu yaraan ka luqluqano markaan tukanayno ama ALLE xusayno (ALLAAHU AKBAR) ALLE wuu wanaagsan yahay waxaan wanaag ahayna ma aqbalo.

Walaalayaal ma waxaynu rabnaa XUBIN weesada kaa jabisa markaad GACAN ku taabatid inaynu u quurno ama ku taabano ama kaba darane ku NUUGNO ama kaba sii darane ku CARABINO CARABKII ALLE lagu xusi lahaa. SUBXAANALLAH

walaalayaal NEBIGEENII suubanaa nabad gelyo iyo naxariis ALLE korkiisa ha yeelee wuxuu yiri CARABKIINA KU NADIIFIYA CADAY WAA WADOOYINKII QUR'AANKA E.

Inana waxaynu rabnaa meel ay kasoo baxaan
KAADI!!,WADI!!,MADI!!, XAYD!!, NIFAAS!!
oo intuba NIJAAZO ah inaynu CARABKII la ina yiri NADIIFIYA oo ALLE dartiis u NADIIFIYA ku nuugno ama carabino!!!.
WAR ALLIHIIN KA BAQA OO DIINTIINA BARTA OO WAX WALBA LAYSMA WEYDIITEE ALLE KA XISHOODA, CARABKIINANA ALLE U NADIIFIYA WAA LAGU XUSAA LAGU BARYAA LAGU QUR'AAN AKHRIYAAYE, KA FOGEEYA CARABKIINA MEESHA AAN SACABADA (gacanta) LOO QUURIN

WALAALKIIN
FU'AADKHADAR

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ROOTI

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Treasure seeker, Please don't waste your time in this pages. Most of this brothers and sisters are ignorent about many things in life.

I said this because they seem to be given answer so definite sometimes you wonder as if they have direct line to Allah.

How can you say its haram something you don't have any daliil?!

History has shown when someone is confronted with something he has no knowladge the first reaction is daniel, its haraam, its bidci and so on.

If its looks to them wrong or their not gaining benefits, they will condemn without any prove and that is the human nature.

Ask them if the combuter/telephone or kissing(dhuuqida) they are using is halal or haraam .all this things are new and we don't have any Ayad or hadiis to make halaal or haram. yet they don't prohibit from you because our sociaty accepts this things and they take without quastion.

This topic of oral sex to my opinion is private and is like kissing,salaaxid etc.

Ask one question do they have AYAD To back with their prohibition yes or no.

The rest of what you hear is everyones own preference and prejudices.

Adiga if you think you like it and don't have problem don't ask this poeple because they my not like your way of doing things or how many times you like to enjoy with your partner and they will oppose you without prove.

Remember all of us disagree our way of life all the time because we have different perception to everything that is why we don't wear same clothes.

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Hussein

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Asalamu Calaykum.

To:
Saaxiib iga raali ahaaw hadaan si xun oo aadan rabin wax u iraahdo. Waxaan ku weydiiyay saaxiib inta aadan raadin daliil kaa xaarintinimaynaya oralsex, adigu maheysaa mid kuu xalaaleynaya, fadlan hadii aad heyso nasoo sii, maxaa yeelay qofka waxa intuusan ku dhicin waa inuu ka fakaro inay waxakan xalaal yihiin, marka na sii daliil noo furayaa wadadaas aad sheegtay oo nagu cusub.

wixii qalada iga cafi saaxiib.

Asalamy Calaykum.

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muslimah

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assalamu alaikum warahmah,

ok i really don't mean to be rude but i'd like tell my sister muslimah if she'd be kind enuff to not use ma user name in here...and if you are gonna use it pls make sure you change the spelling or add a # or something so ppl can diffrentiate b/ween the two of us thank you

treasure seeker you're wlc walaalo and good luck

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muslimah

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Salamu calaykum to U all

TO: sis muslimah

I Guess that name muslimah only applies to female which is muslim, (ah) in arabic wise it indicates that it's a female. so to make it short, sis i think i was the one before ya who use to use this nick, but if u feel like i oughta changed then insh'allah i migh as well do it for Allah's sake and to avoid problems. But let me tell ya sis, this isn't ur's only, infact i know of 3 sisters who go by that nick so if u wanna be just, i think u should be the one who should change but then i again, i don't mine sharing. since it's not our real names for both of us but it describes who we are.. Imagine if we both had the nick like Amran, should u ask me to change it for ya? Hmmm, i guess not but then again i could be flexible and be the patient one. Thus from now on i will change it but i don't think the others will change when u command them.

Was salamu aleikum

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muslimah1

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assalamu alaikum,

ok sister i guess i came out as being rude but i didn't mean to...i just want ppl to be able to differentiate b/ween the two of us...and it was very kind of you to change the nick for me...but i guess we can share it...i'm really not patient...it's something i honestly lack...but sister i'm trying...i'm glad how patient you've been with me tho...and ifyou were the one who had it b4 moi then i guess you're entitled to it more than I...yes i do know the meaning of it...and yes we all(muslim women) do fall under that category...but, but...but nothing i guess...i'm really thankful for your patience and the kind way you've responded to me may allah bless you sister and increase you in subber (patience), and knowledge amin

wassalamu alaikum warahmah
your sister in islam muslimah1

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last time using *muslimah*

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As-salamu elaikum sis

To: muslimah1, insh'allah this is my last time using this nick or even attending this discussion due to various reasons. so u could use ur muslimah and insh'allah if I were to come back here i will be sure to use others nick. I really didn't mean to be harsh on ya but i thought i'll let u realize that this is a nick most muslims sisters use now a day. Even if u where to create an email by that nick,there is someone who already did that and where ever u go whether it's somali or non-somali site muslimah nick is bound to appear before u. so what i am telling u is that Muslimah will be always shared with ya just be patient and be the one who distinguishes her self from others. Once again I will no longer Use that Nick in order to be on the save side and i found that somalinet although it has alot of benefits such islamic info but also subhana'allah it has wicked people who attend it's site. thus the only option i have to leave since they won't do anything against those pple who trangress the limits of islam.... I wondered if somali net is aware of this problemos and if yes don't they now that they carry a responsibilty to protect and fight for islam. Subhana'alah, i don't wanna say anything that would harm a fellow muslim but the only option i have is to not associate. Over all, i have learned alot of good things about their discussion mainly islamic da'wah and May Allah bless the bro/sis who strive to spread the da'wah in this site and May allah (swt) guide those who wanna lead the muslims to astray.

Wa alekum salam

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Muslim

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To muslimah or muslimah1 ( the one who made the fuss and the big deal) for your information all muslim women are muslimahs' so what gives u the right 2 get a monopoly on the name?....to Muslimah (the nice one)..U did better than that sister, I wish all muslim sisters more were like u, I truly admire your paitence and 'saabar'.

P.s Muslimah1 u come across as not arrogant but also ignorant.
Peace your brother in ISLAM

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muslimah1

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assalamu alaikum warahmah,

sister again i appreciate your patience...

Muslim I'm not gonna insult you cuz it won't do me any good...but i'll give you an advise as you are my brother in islam, judge yourself b4 you judge others...cuz by you calling me arrogant and ignorant only makes you look like one...so pls think twice b4 you rush to judge your brothers/sisters in islam...
wassalamu alaikum warahmah

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TREASSURE SEEKER

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TO: ALL BROS & SISTERS
ASSALAM CALEYKUM,
I AM SORRY FOR NOT BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE DISCUSSION FOR SOMETIME. AND I MUST SAY ITS A STEP AHEAD TO SEE BROS AND SISTERS ARGUING FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEWS WHILE TRYING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION.
FIRST OF ALL THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR THE CONTRIBUTION TOWARD THIS ISSUE.
SECONDLY I PIECE OF ADVICE TO THOSE OF US WHO ARE QUICK AT POINTING FINGER AND RULING EVERY THING AS HARAM. IF I MAY ASK THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE "WHAT ARE THE EVIDENCES BEHIND U HARAM VERDICT?"
OR HOW CAN U CONVINCE SOMEONE THAT U REALLY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE FOR THIS MATTER?
BERHAPS U SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A CONVINCING AYAS OR HADITHS WHICH SHOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE TOUCHING ON THIS ISSUE.
LASTLY REMEMBER ALLAH HAS SAID IN THE QURAN THAT U CALL PEOPLE TO THE WAY OF ALLAH WITH KNOWLEGDE AND WISDOM. IAM THEREFORE APPEALING TO THOSE BROS & SISTERS WHO R SEF LABOOD TO REASON PROPERLY AND PREACH WITH WISDOM .

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treassure seeker

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personally i dont like it neither do i advice someone to do it, but what i wanted to know is the islamic position on this issue.
from our social point of view is not a nice thing to do but how can we convince people from other society who are acustomed to it and want to know its position in islam?
so that is what iam looking for!!!
may Allah guide us to the right path.
ameeen!!ameen!!
wasalam.

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