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Simba

Monday, August 21, 2000 - 02:36 pm
I wanted to know what everbody else thinks about this website: http://www.submission.org

I am not sure whether this is a misleading site or really Islamic.

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anonymous.

Monday, August 21, 2000 - 04:22 pm
No. that website belongs to unislamic organization who spreads the disobidience of the prophet. Most of their followers believe in another fake messenger called RASHAD KHALIFA and I would advice you to stay away from it. They claim there is jewish muslim,christian muslim, budhist muslim etc etc. They don't add in the ADAN(prayer calling) Our messenger. They also do not mention our messenger scw in their prayers which they consider to be idol worshipping. They also pray differently than muslims pray. They have a mosque in Tucson Arizona where their base is located. They have two somalis in their memebership namely AHMED ADAM and Mahamud abib. You can find both of them right now at somali.soc. where they spread their disbelieve and mislead people. This organization was founded by the jews to fight the spread of islam in the USA and the man who invented THE ORGANIZATION himself is a christian copt who was born and raised in egypt. Waa gaalee iska ilaali iyaga wixii taageersanba.

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anonymous.

Monday, August 21, 2000 - 04:27 pm
To make sure what I told you click on their website:

1- Prayer.
2- Adan.
3-Mohammed scw.
4-Abahureyra.
5-Women.

There was a long debate in the islamic section which was deleted recently for space saving I guess where you would have seen AHMAD copying and pasting from that website. He was caught red handed though he managed to present himslef as muslim at first.

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Simba

Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 04:40 pm
Thanxs anon. Now I'm sure what they're all about. You see I don't know much about the religion but still I didn't feel right browsing their website because of some messages I saw there! Hey, but there's always help. Thank God.

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anonymous.

Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 03:26 am
Bro simba.

At your service bro. That is why we are brothers in islam to watch out for each other.

your brother..

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CABDULLAH

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 01:14 am
ASSALAAMU cALAYKUM

AAD IYO AAD AYAAD U MAHADSAN TAHAY WALAAL ANONYMOUS. BOGGA WAA MID CADAWGA MUSLIMIINTA ABUUREEN, SOOMAALI WALBANA WAXAAN KAGA DIGAYAA INAY ISKA ILLAALIYAAN.

WAA IN LOOGA DIGAA SOOMAALIDA IYO MUSLIMIINTA GUUD AHAAN. MAR WALBA CADAWGA ISLAAMKA WAXAY KA SHAQEEYAAN INAY MARIN HABAABIYAAN MUSLIMIINTA LAAKIN ALAXAMDULILLAAH DAD BAA ALLAH U SOO SAARA OO DIFAACA DIINTIISA, ALLAHA INAGA DHIGO. AAMIIN

WAXAAN IDIN LEEYAHAY, DADKA ARIZONA DEGGAN AYAA SI FIICAN UGU WARQABEE IN KOOXDAN ISU BAHEYSATAY AY YIHIIN CADAWGA ISLAAMKA OO AY RAABAAN INAY SI QALDAN DIINTA ALLAH UGU TURJUMAAN DADKA AAN DIINTA WAXBA KA AQOON.

WALAALAYAAL DHIBAATADA AY LEEDAHAY BARASHO LA,AANTA DIINTAADA WAA TAN. WAXAA ADIGA, WALAALAHAGA, WAALIDKAAGA IYO UMMADA OO DHAN BEEN U SHEEGI KARA MID HABAAR QABE AH OO AAN MUSLIM AHEYN.
WAXAA KALOO JIRA NIN ASIGANA LA YIRAAHDO MADMAC OO
RA'YI KU SOO QORA BADANA DHINACA ISLAAMKA, NINKAAS SIDOO KALE ISKA ILLAALIYA WAA NIN LAGU SOO DIRAY UMADDA SOOMALIDA EE MUSLIMIINTA.

HADAL IDINKUGU DHEEREYN MAAYO WAXA DANAHIINA AH WAAD OGTIHIIN WALAALAYAAL, DIINTANA SI CAD AYAA LOO QEEXAY OO LOO FASIRAY, QOFKII RABA INNUU DIINTA BARTO WUXUU KA RAADSAN KARAA WALAALHIISA SOOMAALIDA EE DIINTA ALLAH BARAY EE MASAAJIDADA AHLU SUNNAH WAL JAMAACA WAX KU AQRIYA.

WALAALAYAAL, ISKA ILLAALIYA DADKAN WAA URURO ISU BAHEYSTAY INAY DIIN OO DHAN ADDUUNKA KA TIRTIRAN.
WAXYAABAHA AY KU SOO GANBADAAN WAXAA KA MID AH DIIMAHA OO DHAN MEEL KELIYA AYAY KA SOO JEEDAAN WAXAY LEEYIHIIN HAL ILAAH, MAXAA LOO KALA SAARAA.
YUHUUDI, KIRISTAN, BUUDI, HINDI, DHAGAX IYO GEED CAABUD, DAB CAABUD, XIDDIG CAABUD, IYO ISLAAM WAA MID AYEY LEEYIHIIN!!..

WALAALYAAL HA AQRININA BOGGOODA HANA TUSININA DADKA KALE TAAS NAFTEEDA WAXAY SHAAC BIXINEYSAA BOGGA QURUNKA AH, EE QOFKAAD ARAGTAAN INNUU FIIRINAAYO UGU DIGA KELIYA , WAA RA'YIGEYGA.

NIMANKAN ABUURAY HOWSHOODA WAXAY MAR HORE SOO QARIBTAY MEELO BADAN HADDA UGUMA HORREYSO EE MAR WALBA WAXAY SOO SAARAAN QOF HOGGAAMIYE U NOQDA OO YAQAAN LUQADA CARABIGA AMA COD KAR AH OO SI QALDAN
DADKA WAX U TUSA.

NINKAN KHALIFA LA YIRAAHDO WAXAA KA HOREEYEY DAD BADAN SIDA NINKA ABAABULAY URURKA ISLAAM ISKU SHEEGA AH EE NATION OF ISLAM, MIRZA GHULAM AHMED
(QADIYANIYA), SALMAN RUSHDIE, IYO KUWO KALE OO BADAN.

WALAALAYAAL ISKA ILLALIYA ALLAHA INA BADBAADIYO CADAWGANA ALLAHA HA QABTO.
MAXAA NAGU WAAJIB AH:
-INAAN ALLAHA KU XIRNAANO SI DHAB AH.
-INAAN ASIGA KELIYA TALO SAARANO.
-INAAN DIINTEENA BARANO.
-INAAN BARNO DADKA KALE.
-INAAN DADKA KAGA DIGNO CADAWGA QORSHAHIISA.
-INAAN DIFAACNO DIINTEENA.
-INAAN KU DHAQANO WAXAAN BARANAY.

WASSALAMU CALAYKUM

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ABDULLAH

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 01:45 am
ASSALAAMU ALAYKUM

IN SHORT, ALTOUGH I HAVE SAID THE MOST IMPORTANT WARINING AND ADVICE IN THE SOMALI LANGUAG, I WOULD LIKE TO TRANSLATE IT FOR THE NON-SPEAKERS OF SOMALI.
MAY ALLAH REWARD YOU BROTHERS(ANONYMOUS) AND SIMBA FOR YOUR DEEP CARE TO SAVE GUARD ALLAH'S RELIGION FROM THE ENEMIES.

THE WEBSITE HAS NOTHING WHATEVER TO DO WITH ISLAM.
IT IS SOLELY A DECEPTIVE TRICK TO TRAP THE MUSLIMS AND MISLEAD THEM.

PLEASE DO YOUR BEST AND STRIVE HARD TO WARN OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND ALL MUSLIMS AGAINST THIS FILTHY PAGE.

THE NASTY AND CHEAP WRITINGS MIXED WITH CUNNING PHILOSOPHY IS EXPLICIT TO THE BARE EYES AND THE SOUND MIND THAT IT IS A DISTORTION OF ISLAM.

BEFORE I GOT THIS NEWS FROM YOU AND BR. SIMBA, A NIGERIAN MUSLIM FRIEND AND BROTHER OF MINE WARNED
ME AGAINST IT.

ALHAMDULILLAH, I AM AN ENLIGHTENED RELIGIOUS PERSON AND I DO NOT HESITATE THAT MOST LIKE ME WHO CARE ABOUT THEIR RELIGION CAN SPOT OUT THIS TRICK IN LESS THAN A SECOND; BUT THE PROBLEM EXISTS IN THE MULTITUDE OF THE UNLEARNED FOLK.

THE WBESITE WAS HEAVILY FUNDED AND HAS BEEN WORKED OUT SUCH THAT IT CAN BEWILDER AND HYPNOTISE THE LAY MAN. IT IS A VERY WRETCHED AND CUNNING DEVIL'S
(RASHAD KHALIFA AND HIS ASSISTANTS)WORK.

AS I CAN NOT START TO REFUTE ALL THE HEAP OF RUBBISH TRICKS WITH WHICH THEY AIM TO MISLEAD THE MUSLIMS, I WOULD JUST SUMMARIZE TO SAY:

IT IS ALL AGAINST THE QURAN AND SUNNAH.
IT IS ALL CLEAR LIES AND MISLEADINGS.
IT IS ALL A DEVIL'S INSPIRATION.

PLEASE ALL MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS BE AWARE OF YOUR ENEMIES.

FURTHERMORE, THIS MAN(RAASHID KHALIFA) COMES ALONG A SERIES OF CORRUPT ELEMENTS USED BY THE JEWISH AND CHRISTIAN ENEMIES.
THE ORIENTALISTS.
THE COLONISTS.
THE PERVERTED RELIGIOUS CLERICS.
THE ELOQUENT AND RHETORIC OPRATORS AND LEADERS.
THE MUSICIANS AND ARTISTS.
ALL ARE SATAN'S SOLDIERS AND THE DAY IS NIGH WHEN THEY SHALL BE DEFEATED INSHAA ALLAAH.

R.KHALIFA IS JUST LIKE THE FOUNDER OF NATION OF ISLAM FROM WHOM THE PIOUS MEMBER(MALCOLM-X)BECAME INNOCENT WHEN HE FOUND OUT THE PLOT AGAINST ISLAM.

LIKEWISE, THE MIRZA GHULAM AHMED OF (QADIIYANIYA).
SALMAN RUSHDIE OF INDIA.
KAMAL ATTATURK OF TURKEY.
AND MANY MORE. VERY IMPOTANT NOTICE: THERE IS ONE MAN CALLED MAD MAC WHO WRITES HIS OPINIOS IN THE
DISCUSSION. HE IS A MAN ON A MISSION AND BE AWARE OF HIM. HE IS AN ENEMY OF ISLAM TOO.

PLEASE BE AWARE AND LEARN YOUR RELIGION SO THAT YOU SAVE GUARD YOURSELF AND OTHERS FROM THE ENEMY.

WASSALAAMU ALAYKUM

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Anonymous.

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 04:48 am
Aad baad u mahad san tihiin. Ilaahey dambi dhaaf iyo inuu islaannimo igu dilo ii weydiiya.

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FAHAD

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 09:25 am
Jazakumullahu khayran al-akh c/llahi and Anon.inkastoon jeclaa inaan magacisa barto any way aad ayaan ugu faraxsanahay in mar walba ay jiraan rag islamka u soo jeeda.wax allale waxay isku dayaan oo lid ku ah islaamka ilaah baa burburin doon(yuriiduna liyudhfi'uu nuurallahi bi'afwaahihim wallahu muttimu nuurihi walow karihal kaafiruun)

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MUSA

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 11:45 am
ASSALAAMU ALAYKUM ALL, TO THE ATTENTION OF BROTHER ANONYMOUS PLEASE!
I WOULD BE GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD BE KIND ENOUGH BROTHER AS TO TELL ME HOW I GO ABOUT TO TAKING PART IN THE DISCUSSIONS IN SOMLAI.SOC.? I KNOW ITS A SILLY QUESTION BUT PLEASE DO ANSWER!
THANKS ...LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU!

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anonymous.

Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 10:42 am
Musa.

Follow these steps.

1- www.deja.com
2- press discussions
3- Type in search discussions box: soc.culture.somalia

Vuala! there you will see the discussion and the newsgroup of somali.soc.culture. From thereon it will be easy. Incase any hardles let me know I will be glad to help if I can. And remember there is no stupid question only the one you don't ask.

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Mahmood

Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 10:44 pm
Thank you very much brothers,
Before I had read this discussion forums, I had checked their website, and being naive, I read Sura AlMunafiqun (The Hypocrites) (63:1). The real Mushrikiins in the website translated by :
"'When the Hypocrites come to thee, they say, "We bear witness that thou art indeed the Messenger of Allah.' "

And their discussion said that us (the real muslims) are Munafiqiins because we bear witness that Muhammad (sws) is the messenger of Allah.

It didn't know at all the content of the website, so I got confused because I know indeed without doubt that Muhammad (sws) is the messenger of Allah. I got confused, my heart started to beat faster, my mind started to turn around, my blood was flowing faster as I was near a state of craziness. The Sheitaan got control of me as I couldn't speak no more and I was fixing the screen for about half an hour while I was in disbelief and doubt at was written. I thought I was becoming crazy or blind, or maybe drugged.
But Allah is the most powerful and the most merciful. I saw your message board the same night, so after that I checked back at the site and it was indeed it (www.submission.org) !
I felt joy and relief knowing that I hadn't become crazy and drugged. I bear witness that Allah is the Almighty, and Allah (swt) gave me this test looking if I would still believe in him.
I praid Salaat Maghrib, then Salaat Isha to prove that I bear witness that there is nobody worthy of worship except Allah(swt), and Muhammad (sas) is his messenger. After Salaat Isha, Allah rewarded me by making me find the message of Abdullah. Abdullah, may Allah (swt) bring you to Jannah
Indeed the true Munafiqiins are them :


" 2. They have made their oaths a screen (for their misdeeds): thus they obstruct (men) from the Path of Allah. truly evil are their deeds.

3. That is because they believed, then they rejected Faith: So a seal was set on their hearts: therefore they understand not. "

Now, I will give a warning to all my muslim friend about the danger of this website. Jazaak Allah Kheyran.
Conclusion: Always have an openess for critic as indeed Sheitaan is everywhere and maybe sometimes inside the hearts of cheikhs and Imams, so beware brothers, Muafiqiins are everywhere.

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Anonymous.

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 03:54 am
Bro Mahamoud.

Don't you worry, Allah told us already in the Quran that we shall be tested and won't be left alone.

"2. Do men think that they will be left alone on saying, "We believe", and that they will not be tested?

3. We did test those before them, and Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false."(spider-Alcankabuut).


These groups have many websites with different names the last one was opened by the somali guy named MAHAMUD ABIB. I felt the same way you felt when I first saw their writings. Since muslims fear Allah they will try to Use ALLAH'S name first to attack his messenger. Second comes the companions of the prophet. Third how muslims pray. on and on goes their Attack untill they leave nothing with you. They tell you you can pray how you like and when you like. Even you can befreind with as many women as you want because THEY FIND IN THE BIBLE that our prophet SULEYMAN peace be upon him had thousand wives(Which is in no way verifiable) Perhaps it is the jewish superstition which found its way into the books of god. Beware and get educated bro to be safe from these and other SATANS.

I wanna leave you with these advices bro;

"4.64 We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the leave of Allah. "

"4.80 He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah. But if any turn away, We have not sent you to watch over them."

"4.115 If anyone contends with the Messenger even after guidance has been plainly conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that becoming to men of Faith, We shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell,- what an evil refuge! "

"4.170 O Mankind! The Messenger has come to you in truth from Allah. believe in him: It is best for you. But if you reject Faith, to Allah belong all things in the heavens and on earth: And Allah is All-Knowing, All-wise. "

"8.27 O you that believe! betray not the trust of Allah and the Messenger, nor misappropriate knowingly things entrusted to you."


And THE LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST ALLAH tells us of the guy who ignored the way of the prophet and disobeyed him:

"25.27 The Day that the wrong-doer will bite at his hands, he will say, "Oh! Would that I had taken a (straight) path with the Messenger!"

So my brother, these groups are calling people to disbelieve no doubt about it that they are disbelievers using the Quran to destroy the beliefs of the Muslims. the best thing an individual can own is islam and if islam is taken away from him it is finished for him/her.

"17.72 But those who were blind in this world, will be blind in the hereafter, and most astray from the Path."


In suratu dhaha(taha) 20 we read about whoever turned away from the guidance and and the true message:

"124. "But whosoever turns away from My Message, verily for him is a life narrowed down, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Judgment."

125. He will say: "O my Lord! Why have you raised me up blind, while I had sight (before)?"

126. (Allah) will say: "Thus did You, when Our Signs came unto you, forgot them: so will you, this day, be forgotten."

Ilaahey ha innaga dhigo kuwii islaannimada ku dhinta oo towxiidkiisa qalbigiisa ku sharxaday oo rasuulkiisa racey wixii xunna ka taga wixii sanna raaca oo oggolaada.

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CABDULLAH

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:29 am
ASSALAAMU CALYKUM

IKA ILAALI MA AHA BOG ISLAAMI AH-ISKA ILAALI MA AHA BOG ISLAAMI AH-ISKA ILAALI MA AHA BOG ISLAAMI.

WAXAAN GOOR DHOW DHIGAY OGEYSIIS AAN KAGA DIGAAYO
QATARTA AY LEEYIHIIN BOGAGA SIDA KAN KOR LAGU XUSAY OO AH MID GAALADA SAMEEYEEN.

ISKA ILLAALI MA AHA WAX ISLAAMKA SHAQO KU LEH, WAA
BEEN ABUURYO IYO XIILAD CULUS OO LA RABO IN LAGU QOYAAMEEYO MUSLIMIINTA.

FADLAN KA DIGTOONO, UGANA DIG WALAALAHAAGA MUSLIMIINTA OO DHAN.

WAXAAN RABAA INAAN ISU KAASHANO SIDAAN DIINTEENA U DIFAACI LAHEYN, WALLAAHI WAA NOOC JIHAAD LOO YAQAAN MIDKA QALAMKA AMA QORAALKA.JIHAAD BIL QALAM.

WALAALAYAAL ISKA ISKA ILLAALIYA CADWGA ISLAAMKA OO MAANTA FAHMAY SIYAASADA LOO GALO MUSLIMIINTA. TAASNA WAXAA U SABAB AH IN MUSLIMIINTA BADI AHAAN
NASIIB DARO, KA TAGEEN BARASHADA DIINTOODA.

TO ALL MY MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS,

FAKE AND NON ISLAMIC WEBSITE, IT IS ALL LIES AND AGAINST ISLAM, PLEASE BE AWARE OF IT.

I HAVE POSTED JUST YESTERDAY 08/09/00 A WARNING TITLED: BE AWARE OF THE FAKE ISLAMIC WEBSITES.PLEASE CHECK THAT ON THE MAIN SUBTOPIC.

I WOULD ADVISE ANYONE MUSLIM NOT TO READ OR REFER TO THOSE FAKE ISLAMIC WEBSITES LIKE THE ONE MENTIONED ABOVE AND HEREINUNDER:

IT IS EXPLICITLY A BARE LIE AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM. ALL WHAT IS MENTIONED IN THE WEBSITE
www.submission.org IS DISTORTED AND CARRIES NO VALUE.

THIS WEBSITE IS DESIGNED TO MISLEAD THE MUSLIMS.
LOOK HOW CUNNING ARE THE TREACHEROUS AND EVIL DESIGNERS THEREOF: THERE IS NO GOD BUT GOD,THEY DO NOT ADD,MUHAMMAD IS THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH.
WHICH IS THE FULL AND COMPLETE STATEMENT TO BE UTTERED BY EVERY MUSLIM.

EVERY CHRISTIAN, JEW, WILL CONFESS THERE IS NO GOD
BUT GOD, BUT BOTH WILL NEVER ADD MUHAMMAD IS THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH.

YOU WILL SEE THE KAABA, A SANCTUARY WELL REVERED AND HIGHLY ESTEEMED BY ALL MUSLIMS, THEY KNOW THIS SO A PHOTO OF THE KAABA ATTRACTS MUSLIMS AND MAKES THE FAKE WEB MORE NEARER TO A GENUINE ONE.

THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF DECEPTIONS WHICH I CAN NOT
ALL INCLUDE HERE AT ONCE, PLEASE AND PLEASE BE AWARE OF THESE FOOLISH TRICKS.

AND MAY ALLAH PROTECT US.

YOUR BROTHER ABDULLAH.

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