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ARE WE IGNORANT OR WE PRETEND SO THAT WE CAN MESS EVERYTHING UP?

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): RA'YIGA DADWEYNAHA - Your Opinion: Somalia: Soomaalinimo - Nationalism : ARE WE IGNORANT OR WE PRETEND SO THAT WE CAN MESS EVERYTHING UP?
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SOMALI

Friday, March 02, 2001 - 11:49 pm
I CAME TO THIS FORUM HOPING SINCE ITS TITLE MENTIONS SOMETHING ABOUT NATIONALISM I'LL FIND SOMETHING VERY ROMANTIC IN TERMS OF OUR NATION,OUR PEOPLE OR ANYTHING THAT IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE CALLED NATIONALISM. TO MY SURPRISE THE FIRST THING I SAW WAS ABOUT OUR BEAUTIFUL WOMEN BEING DISRESPECTED THROUGH THE INTERNET FOR NO PURPOSE, AND WHEN I SAY OUR WOMEN, I DON'T MEAN THE WOMEN OF MY TRIBE BUT SOMALI WOMEN AS GENERAL. SO, NOW THE QUESTION AS I STATED IS WHY DO WE IGNORE THE FACTS THAT WE ARE ALL SOMALI AND ISLAM AND ADD TRIBE EVERYTHING WE DO?

YOU CAN COMMENT, OR ANSWER THE QUESTION WITHOUT USING ANY FOUL LANGUAGE.

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AHMED

Saturday, March 03, 2001 - 08:11 pm
THAT'S RIGHT EVERY OTHER PAGES'S ALSO THE SAME TRIBE TRASH TALK SOMALIS SAY ADAA BUUQA SAMEEYA HADAN DIIDA BULHAANKA...THERE IS NO DISRESPECT TO SOMALI WOMEN WHAT SO EVER IF WE TALK ABOUT THE INJUSTICE OF AGAINST THOSE TWO SOMALI LESBIAN GIRLS THERE IS TRUE STORY IN SOMALIA TWO WOMEN HAS BEEN CONVICTED BY COURT HAVING SOME SEX RELATIONSHIP AND SENDED THEM TO DEATH BECOUSE OUR LAW IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINS THEM NOT ONLY IN BOSSASO BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT'S DISRESPECT NOT IF WE TALKA ABOUT THOSE ISSUES THERE IS NO ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAT(NO TRIBE,NO POLITCS NOTHING TWO POEPLE ARE LOSIG THEIR LIFE BECOUSE OF PREJUDICE AND THAT'S WRONG WRONG AND WRONG?SOME SOMALIS NATION FOR THEM IS THEIR TRIBE ONLY SOME OF THEM ARE ALSO NOT MUSLIM ?ISN'T THAT TRUE WHY DO WE ALWAYS SAY SOMALIS ARE ALL MUSLIM THERE MIORTY WHO DO NOT BELEIVE MUSLIM IAM NOT ONE OF THEM BUT THEY ARE IN SOMALIA GET THE FACT RIGHT FIRST I APPRICIATED YOU HONEST COMMENT YOU WANT THINGS TO COOL DOWN AND EVERYBODY STICK TO THE RULES/SUBJECT BUT SOME POEPLE WON'T!!! WE WHO DO LOVE SOMALIA AS WHOLE MUST SUPPORT OUR UNITY SO WE CAN SURVIVE AS AN INDEPENDENT NATION AMONG NATIONS AND NOT CONDEM 21&19 YEAR OLD TO DEATH BECOUSE OF THEIR LOVE COME ON MAN..I MEAN WE NEED A SOCIETY WHICH RESPECTS A HUMAN RIGHTS WITHOUT EXCLUTION BECOUSE OF THEIR RELIGION OR WHATEVER I BELEIVE THOSE TWO GIRLS HAVE THEIR REASON TO LOVE EACH OTHER WHAT IF THEY HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY MAN/WOMEN/GANGS ?WHAT IF THEY BORN THAT WAY I THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE BUT TO LOVE THEIR OWN SEX?THERE IS NO ESCAPE HOMOSEXUAL ARE EVRYWHERE EVEN IN SOMALIA DEAL WITH IT/OR DON'T DEAL WHITH IT GET ON WHITH YOURE LIFE BUT THEY WILL CAPTURE HEADLINES AROUND THE WORLD IF WE CONDEM THEM TO DEATH AND THINK WE WILL HAVE A BETTER SOCEITY WHITHOUT THEM I ROCKEN NOT ..

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gedi

Sunday, March 04, 2001 - 12:13 am
Mr Somali
1-lets all acknowledge todays youg generation of somalia nobody taught them how to love their country or to be patriot or nationalism..they don't know its not on their dictionary ...they grew up the last fifteen years of former dictator and ten years of total chaos and destruction..

2-tribal confusion ,the most evil practice alive today in Somali society ...and that is why our country our children ,our mothers our sisters all annihilated ...look what tribal is doing to our existence we no longer human being check all the posting ..dirt language..and we all accepting and responding these thugs and their filthy behavior.

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Gaalkacayo

Sunday, March 04, 2001 - 05:45 am
jaalle ahmed. What you saying, it is just disgusting, and I hope it will not happen in Somalis. If something like this involves some Somalis I will read "ducah" for them. As you say we human right, but not in that way. For you I think you need to think twice before you go to Somali otherwise your head will be cut off by your close relatives. I'm tellin you honestly BE CAREFULL" these kinf of western ideas of democracy misunderstanding. As we are Somali society, we don't need (homosexuals) gay or lesbians, and i will never accept them. Because not of religion and culture, but my own personality. To be a homo, what is the idea behind this? of course nothing. (+ and +) not gives you electercity, whcih is man+man, but (+ and -) gives you electricity, which is man and woman. We as human being in that way (+ and -).

Good lucky your inspiration

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Anonymous

Friday, March 23, 2001 - 11:38 am
To respond to Ahmed.
I think you don't know anything about Qur'an or Islam religion, because if you know you would never say such a thing. How could you possiblly say such a thing i mean(homosexuals) or home whatever you call it. One question for you ahmed, Have you ever go to Masjid and lisen to qur'an and tafsiid? Have you ever heard women can marry other women in our religion? where the religion says that yes women can marry other women? of course there is such thing called marriage, but i'm saying that are women allowed to have or sleep with other women. I think you need to go to masjid and learn our beautiful religion which is of course "Islam" and please DO NOT post such a crab like that, 'couse it might someone like u who is probably "Damn" And one other thing before i lleave i just want let you know that in will nerer happen in Somalia agian and i will not allowed that studity in my country. (Somalia)

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pretentious or

Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 03:47 am
Come on dogs dont pretend to be pigs, was there ever nationalism in Somalia, then when? Don't be stupid nationalism is an imagined community and we have never passed beyond tribalism. That shows modernismo that nation-state is an alien concept to us.

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