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Eng.Nalayeh

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 02:49 am
I am Dhulbahante myself, and I assuredly tell you that we are not happy about the whole damn thing, consequently we shall protest against this so called peace and reconciliation conference.

The seats that have been allocated for mareehaan was far greater than the seats which have been given to the Dhulbahante.

In 1960's Marehan clan had 4 members of parliament, where dhulbahante had 12, and now, dhulbahante lost 50% of their seats where Mereehaan gained above 50%. Okey let us assume that tribelism works in this sort of system, but what sorts of tribe system allocates these sort of seats for Dhulbahante.

Dhulbahante resides four regions: Sool, Sanaag, Togdheer and Nugaal, where is the meerehan and Ogaden, and even these majerten, are they so hugely populated that they deserve 15 members whilst Dhulbahante gets 6?. Think about it people this is a rather sham! And think these so called committee is allocating the seats for how the tribe ay ukala qeylo badan yihiin.

If that is the case we Dhulbahante will rally against this erroneously unlawful matter.

Another example: Ortable git 3 seats where warsengeli got 2, what is this?? Tell me! This is a pure ignorance, they do not know what they are talking about.

Eng Nalaye

Abu-Dhabi

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Xoogsade

Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 04:49 pm
This is a completely unacceptable situation my friend. It is time we have declared a Dhulbahante state. It is time we have declared our own state hence increasing our bargaining power vis-a-vis all established regional groupings.

Sincerely,

Your Geed Quwaax brother

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DrWho

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 06:00 am
Dear Members,

Salamu Alaikum

I am quite new in this place; in fact today is my first day to post a message in this forums.

Since the hot topic is the Arta conference I pondered whether I should participate or not, contemplated for while I have predetermined that I should write an article " this is a merely article but let just call it that, shall we".

When I have heard that there was going to be Somali reconciliation conference in Djibouti, I was overjoyed, I thought to myself this is going to make difference " this was after I have examined the pros and the cons". I was elated to hear the method that Mr Galleh is going to employ. It was somewhat dissimilar to whose procedure, which has been utilised in the other musters.

Furthermore, I suspect this reconciliation conference is once more failing. Let us just examine what is taking place in Arta.

Couple weeks ago, when the people decided that they are going to set up Somali Parliament, there was a huge disagreement as to how they are going to appoint the members of the new Parliament. A lot people put forward that we should adapt the universal way of electing the member's parliament, hence for a constituency " based on regions". Other group was so sceptical about this way, since they knew that one tribe will be the dominant one, they felt this is utterly cheating. Other clans thought they would lose out, because they do not reside a confined region. This was the major dispute; some clans walked out of the conference because they thought that it was immoral for them to be participated such thing.

I regard this sort of discord is utterly fruitlessly futile, it is something that can be solved quite facilely.

Considering I am not specialist in this field, I shall attempt to rationalise and resolve this problem without compromising the parts involved.

First of all, we have been out of government for nearly a decade " some of us feel they were out of one 12 years". We will not have a problem if we remain without a government for another 2 years. This is my proposition: -

We shall base the constiuncy on merits of how populated the regions are. We shall locate every MP for 10 thousand " or any other number agreed". We shall say for example, if there is 100 thousand people in sanag region whose are eligible to vote then Sanag will have 10 MPs. And if Banadir, have 1 million people whose are eligible to vote, then Banadir should have 100 MP, and this should apply to the rest of Somalia. In this scenario the system will be 1 man 1 vote. It is fair and sound. But question may arise, that is: there minority people in Somalia don't they deserve to be represented in the house of Commons, surely that is a equitable inquisition, and my response will be this: even though we have to allocate a certain seats for those groups whose numbers are not suitable enough to gain MPs.

We have to bare in mind that this so called affirmative action, or positive discrimination is thoroughly non-existence in both Europe and USA when it comes to politics. I live in England, there is no such thing, and It should be mentioned that you can find it in textbooks, but they are not implemented. What even made me chuckle was to see ladies allocated certain seats of the Parliament!. This is strange, which country does this. We live in a liberal countries and do we see such thing taking place in these countries! The answer is evidently No. This is of course an assay for Somalis, and it seems they have delivered what the examinees wanted! Bravo people, you passed the test. I am not announcing that I am to some extent male chauvinist, but I am solely exercising my thoughts.

Now, what is the situation in Arta?. We are all aware the fact that number of tribes feel that they have been deceived and also cheated by Mr Galleh. They believe that they did not procure their share of the doe. These clans include: Leelkase, Hawadle, Murursade, And most of all Dhulbahante and Abgaal.


The above named tribes whose reside different regions in Somalia and they feel that this was utterly fraudulently counterfeit thing, and they are not partaking any of this.

What I even find more startling was to see the list of the MPs and among those were the blood aficionados, whose murdered hundred of innocent Somalis in Somalia!. Where does this take us.

I give credence to the fact; this conference would not be more then the previous gatherings, even may be more dangerously venturesome!. God forbid but I fear a fresh imminent civil war that will engulf once more the country I love.


I prospect that you the reader may not fathom this article as one which is provoked by a tribe wrath. I assuredly tell you that this is from the base of my grey matter in the skull.


DrWho

London.

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NeefoowKaniini

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 06:52 am
,,,Horat Ciise Madoobe ma Sagaal baa la siiyay mise Toddobo,,,,,Yaab iyo Amankaag!!!!!!

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Ciise

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 06:58 am
Inagoo Ciise ah oo Mamaasin uu Madaxweynaheena nabadda doondooni baa Sagaal kaliya nalaga siiyay Golaha parlimentigu ma wax socon baa, Dabeedna qudhunkii isxaaq 22 la siin, oo majeerteenka bari dagaana 21 waa waxaan maskaxda galin..

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QALDAAN DUUREED

Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 08:18 am
neefowkanuiini,

saaxiiboow ciise madoobe dir baa 7ba siisee xaad ka rabtaa hadii qabiilkaaga la qadiyey ama la boobay xaad qabiilooyinka islaameed u xag xagee
qandha iimaan daranee.

ciise,

dar'oodnimadaada ku faraxsanoow shaati kale oo ay dad leeyihiin hanoo gashanee dadka gobta ah ha ka wasaqaynin taariiqdana ha leexanin. anigu koley qabiil qabiil waa laiga shidaa laakiin markii aan adigoo kale ku arko ayaan qabiiliiste #1 noqdaa

stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wadani

Sunday, August 20, 2000 - 12:51 am
Salaamu caleykum to u all,

Eng Naleye and Dr who, I think u brothers you took this matter seriously and it's really is but lets hope peace and prosperity into our loved country. We had ongoing civil war more than a decade and we no longer need. As far as the seats of the parliment is concern to my knowledge it was based on who says got, if you shout you get one better it wasn't based justice and even before any thing else still in Arta the President of Jibouti tried to change the constitution to add 20 more seats in order to allocate where he thinks to be appropriate, i dont now what Jiboutian goverment has to do with Somalian Parliment if we elected one. Arta conference is similar to those past to my opinion. Brother Dr Who in london according to your article u compared westerenized world and somalia but the point is we aren't trying to adopt any thing similar to those In westrens such as Britain where we both are cause they got all pple(Acudubilaah) that i dont like to talk their personality i think u know what i mean so lets base everything we talk or we make the word of ALLAH and we will got the reward the day after IIISHAA'ALAH

Wabillahi Towfiiq.

Wadani.

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taliye

Friday, August 25, 2000 - 12:32 pm
Arintan waa inay dhulbahte wayne ka fadhistaan siday ku dhacay mareexan oon ka badanahy inay intaas qatan walee waa cajaaib .War ninkii Galaydh ahaa foodkii ma loogu riday.

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Abdulrahman Farah Gueddi

Friday, August 25, 2000 - 04:09 pm
Xagga kuraasta baalamaanka waa in lagala xisaabtamo hartiga, oon marreexaan iyo cid kale toona loo gafin, waayo harti qayb baa la siiyey; waxana inoo qiyaasay majeerteen oo qaatay 21 kursi, siday ku heleen intaa. Wali ma isweydiiseen?...Harti baa is dhacay inagana Majeerteen baa ina dhacay ee aan xaqeenna maqan ka raadsano haddii kale aan aamusno waxay inoo garteena aan qaadano.........

Cabdiraxman

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Engr Hawd

Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 11:49 am
It is a shame that one of the greatest tribes of Somalia to be treated this way and I totally agree Eng Naleye however its not to blame the peace conference nor other tribes, It will be fair and realistic to put the blame on our so called Garadis/Suldanis etc.I wonder what the hell they were doing there?
probably nothing, I also wonder what they will tell the people they represent when they return to their regions.

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DARWISH

Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 02:06 pm
I am Dhulbahante,

I wonder where was Harti when Galeyr got only 2 votes. we have to blame Majeerteen, when they need us they say "Hartis".

We have to stop supporting what is called PUNTLAND and SOMALILAND, and declare our DARWISH STATE.

BY DARWISH

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Nuur

Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 02:41 pm
I am a dhulbahante too but I wouldn't blame others for our shortcomings.

It is unfair and injust to do so. You are quite right to say that. we deserve much more than that. We are a great people and have a great land.

But the point is, you have to work hard to get your rights! "Tolka faraha ka qaada,iyagaaba dulmane. Dhulbahante ha tashado!".

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MEDIVAL WARIOR

Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 05:54 pm
Dear "LIBERATY SOLIDERS", SONS & DAUGHTERS OF "DARWISH" heros. I'm here totally agreed with everyone & each of you whom said that "DHULBAHANTE", was miss treated & been denied unfairly from thier own basic rights.

Therfore, bro & sis. According to somali history, the "DHULBAHANTE" wariors were very well known for two things they had done better then any other clan in somalia. #1 In the battle fields, #2 And the somalia litireture.

It is true that nobody ever did better then us in any of the above mentioned matters. Therefore, i think it is about a time for us to check back our books and look very closely to how we have been under estimated in the so called "ARTA'S PEACE RECONCILATION". And we should & must come together & prepare our victorious comando "DARAAWIISHS" for the worest.

Let us take back our bride & show them all that we are still capable to concour from the north to down the south somalia once more.

This is a wake up call for the :HABARWAA CABDALE SICIID" known as "THE GREAT DHULBAHANTE TRIBE".

-----------CILMI NAALEEYE AXMED-------

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Anonymous

Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 06:09 pm
HABARWAA CABDALE SICIID= incorrect

HABARWAA CABDALE MUUSE SICIID=correct

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Filsan

Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 07:43 pm
TO:Darwiish
walaal waan kuu raacay rayigaa xagay jireen harti markuu galaydh helay 2 foodkaliya ay majeerten mooryan ugu ridayeen foodka halkaas waxaad ka aragtaa in dhulbahante waxba loo ogalayn . Xitaa kuligood darood mareexan, ogaden and majeerten waxay ugu rideen •••••• markaa ma idinla tahay inaynu dadkaa wax wadaagno dhulbahte ha tashado barigii horana sayidkaa balaayo nala soo galay oo dhulbahante ku dhameyay wax shaydaan kadibna siyad baa idin kala qaybiyay hadana majeerten oo aduunka dhulos ugu neceb baa mesha ku jira oo hoyadood masayr u dhimatay dhulos nacayb dartii ah.Markaa dhulbahanow aan tashano oo shir dag dag ah hala qabto aan dawlad ku samysanyno inagoon cidna u baahnayn intaad iska ilowdaan nacaybka la idinku dhex abuuray.

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dadyaqaan

Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 10:36 pm
Horta Dhulbahante hadaan ahay anigu maba hadleen, waayo sow ma ogidiin in aad bini aadmiga ugu dhiig darantihiin? Doofaarkana waxaa loo cadaabaa ficil la'aan, sida la yidhi, Waligayna gabar aan dhalay dhulbahante ma siiyeen, waana inan gumeed.

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bahararsame

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 12:12 am
to mr. dhulbahante,
Dear mr. i am myself dhulbahante and i am bahararsame. And i am tyred of you people talking about we dindnt get anough seats but
I can tell you that it is about time we should
put a stop on this clan based parliament and united somalia with out the clan talk, we have been with out a goverment since 1991. that`s hel of a long time ago and you people should start thinking about what you can do for your country instead of what your clan can get. And if dhulbahante get 6. it is ok with me because there is other clans wich didnt get any seats.
when mr. Ali khalif didnt became a president i
didnt care about that or who became the president of somalia it is the same with me.
as long as he rules the country in a good way and
he is blind for clan issues.
then i respect him as the president of somalia
with he diserves according to the somalian parliament.
And hey it doesent matter this is the parliament (KLM) ko meel gaar
with in 3 years a new goverment the real goverment should step in.
So let me tell you some thing to hell with qabiil.

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Anonymous

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 03:58 am
I wonder where were the rest of HARTi when GALLAYD got two votes only. as an ogaden we would only put our votes for iiddoor and hawiyee since we cannot agree on anything with the majeerteens.
i am very surprised at the bloodless dhulmahantes, you see, the majs. are tricking you everytime. before, they only gave you few seats and now when you put your man forward as a candidate for the somali precidency they see you as worthless and don't even bother to vote for you.
i, advice you gutless people to stand for your rights and stop being puppets and stooges for the majs.

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CABDI

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 06:02 am
RE: CIISE
Waar ma maqashay murtida ina cabdule xasan ee ah CIISAHA BAKHTIGA HIIGA IYO HAQAY MIDGAAN BAALEH.
Doqon yahow soomaalida xisaabtamaysa adigu Ciise ayaad ka tahay, Ciisena waa wax naqus ah. Marka anigu waxan qabaa haddii laguba xasuustay oo kuraas umadda soomaaliyeed kuu garatatay inaad alxamdulilah tiraadid weeyaan.
Ciise waa midgo. Ciise nasab maaha idina waad ogtihiin. Espece d'imbecile. Sauvage. Les Issas sont des pourrus. Votre president Guelle est un criminel et vous bien au courant. Tu vas voir ce qui se passe à Djibouti prochainement. Les somaliens(les forces de Hussein Aidid)vont attaqués votre salle pays et on verra ou les issas vont se refugiés. Gun yahay ..........

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adam

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 06:12 am
Ninkagan magaca baharsame ku qaraabanay ma tihid baharsame ee mesha dhulos dantooda lagu wadaye ha soo galin qabiiloyin magacyadoodna jooji isticmalkoda. Dadyaqan waxaa tahay ba adaa is sheegay ee adna hana sheegan fadhiid yohow.

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Engr:hawd

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 07:01 am
It was a shame that our supported Candidate Mr.galaydh only recieved 2 votes in the second round, I support without reservation all brothers whom raised that where bloody so called Harti gone.

I wont be mistaken if I say majerten used us all most last ten years ie Kismayo, Puntland and now in Arta.
Dhulbahanta are are very honest and straight people but this had been abused by Majertan as they given all their votes to habargidir, I wonder it will be soon when so called majertan wil
beg us.

let us all hope that this Somali transitional government to succeed and may correct the mistakes happened in Djabuti.

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Eng-Balanbale

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 10:05 am
Oh, were you suprised that your so called harti none sense didn't work?. We Sade ppl support without reservation Abdiqasim S Hassan for the President of Somalia. Where's Majerteen when u need them or Darood for that matter?. Ogaden,Marehan,Majerteen,Leelkase,and rest of them voted for Abdiqasim for President of new Somalia. We Sade community won't forgive Dhuloos for taking sides with those double face Majerteen. Look what they did to you. we know those double face MJ ppl and their agenda, but we won't pay it. Come back to those who saved you from Isaq murders. Remember just like those Dhuloos who came the other day to Kismayu, we might change our heart and forgive u guys.. come on and deal with us Sade and not those....

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dhulloos man

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 10:41 am
you absolutly right sade,,,,HORAA LOO SHEEGAY INUU SADE MAREEXAAN GOB YAHAY, MA MAJEERTEENBAA MEEL AAD MARTAY MARI KARA" majeerteen inuu danayste yahay awalba waa la ogaa,,,markuu rabo wax u ciidama ayuu yaa harti aheey iyo budhaa budhaa noola yimaadaa,,markii la yiraahdo wax hala qaybsadana,,,wakaa wixii oo dhan liqay,,,marka hadeynu nahay dhulbahante wayne,,we have to be ware mj ppl,,,they are selfish,,,,god knows they are.....
may allaah for give us..

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JILAB TUBANE

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 11:33 am
HADAYNU ISI SIRI SIDEENABA MA ISKA KALA TAGNAA SIDEEDABA.
tuducdan yar waxa aan u soo qqatay waxa weeye horta dhulbahante waynow marka hore idinku dhan isu raaca.inagiibaa maanta isu haysana reer puntland aynu ku darsano iyo reer habari land aynu ku darsano.marka marka hore mowqif adag aynu qaadano oo ah maxaa dan u ah dhulbahante laakiin hadii talo tahay maye anigaa kaa saxsan weligeen meel gaadhi mayno.
CAQLI HADAANU KAA LUMIN WAAD ILAAB GARANE.....

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MEDIVAL WARIOR

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 12:33 pm
"WAXAAN KU MOODAY, WAXAADSE NOQOTAY, WAXAANSE LOO NOQONDOONIN".

"MAJEERTEENAW" waxaan ku mooday walaalkay curad oo runtii waxanu gogaansanay hadaanu nahay reerka "DHULBAHANTE", inaanu iska ilawnu wax alaale iyo wixii aanu idinka tirsanaynay dhamaan oo daacad isu noqono.

"MAJEERTEENAW", waxaadse noqoteen (NINA CAADADII MA DAAYO, BAHALNA BAKHTI CUNKIIS MA DAAYO). Carabtuna waxay ku mah-mahdaa (MAXAMED CALI MAA YAKHALI MEHERATO).

"MAJEERTEENAW" walaalkayaw, waxaanse loo noqon doonin waa "DHULBAHANTE" oo dib walaal kaaga dhigta, kuguna tashada inaad u maqantahay.

Intaas ayaan idhi walaalkay "MAJEERTEEN". Waxanse kaloo u jawaabi lahaa nimanka ay ka mid yihiin kaas sabta sabtu dhashay ee la baxay "DADYAQAAN" ee kor ku quran, iyo nimanka kalee ku hadlay afka labada qabiilo ee waa hore aanu tolnimo ku kala tagnay ee "OGAADEEN" iyo "MAREEXAAN" ba .

Horta,waxa la qaatay markaad u jawaabayso cid inaad ogtahay inuu kula simanyahay qofka aad u jawaabayso marka dhan walba la eego eg:- QABIILKIISA,TAARIIKHDOODA, SUUGAANTOODA, IYO TAYODOODA". Marka ragu is hayo, laakiin nasiib daro lama yaqaanu ninyahaw isku sheegay "DADYAQAAN". cid alaale iyo cid aad soomaali ka tahay, SAB iyo AJI midnaba.

Hase yeeshee, waxan kali ah oo aan kuu sheegi laha waa, hadii inuun cidi nasbnimo sheegato, amaba ay tahay inuu yahay reerka "DHULBAHANTE". Taana waxa kuu cadaynaysa taariikhda kali ah ee somaali taqaano dhamaan, waayo soomaaliya ma laha taariikh aan "DHULBAHANTE" ahayn hadii "ILAAH" laga baqayo oo aan la ficiltamayn.

Nacasyahaw, inan gumeed inan gumeedku dhalay waxan kaloo ku xusuusin laha in reerka "DHULBAHANTE" la yidhaahdo soomaali ugu xididnimo fiican yahay marka aad leedahay kama guursadeen "DHULBAHANTE". Waxse is waydeen leh waa horta ninyahaw ma isgaynaa???. War ninyahaw orod oo bal dib isugu noqo bal soo yara warayso aabahaa iyo adeeradaa haday cidi ka nooshahay iyagaa ku bari doona "DHULBAHANTE".

Kuwa kalee "MAREEXAAN" iyo "OGAADEENKABA", waxaan iyana odhan lahaa. "DHULBAHANTE" inbadan buu ku dhintay "DAAROODNIMO" aan jirin oo way cadaatay in odaygii "SH.••••••• ISMAACIIL" goblan ahaa ka hur intaan "DHULBAHANTE" firta "SH. •••••••" u dhalan.

Hadaba SADE oo mareexaan iyo ogaadeen oo labaduba yihiin laba doofaar, waxan leeyahay iyagana (DOOFAAR FICIL LA'AAN BAA LOO CADAABAA). Idinka iyo cadaab baa is leh iyo tol la'aan waligeed ah.

ABAAL LAAWAYAAL, baad tihiin abidkiine, abidkayo iidiinmaanu baahan inaad noo bahataan mooyee. Abidkeen iskamaydinaan cilin rag inaan idinka ciliyo mooyaane. Abidkeen iimaydinaan hiilin inaan idiin heesho mooyaane. Abidkayo cadaw idiin maanaan jabin inaad noo jabisaan mooyee.

Bal hadaba nimamyahaw waxaad ogsoonaataan inaan dib "DHULBAHANTE" "DAAROODNIMO" lagu beer laxawsan karin oo taasi dib u dhici mayso. waxadse kaloo ogaataan in "DHULBAHANTE" tuuray "DAAROODNIMADEE" kaligii ku dhintay ee ordoo (QASHIN QUKA KALA SOO BAXA). Waa hadii aad hayn kartaan oo aad waskhda ka ilaalin kartaan sidaydee oo kale.

Waxaanu idinla wadaagnaa ma jiro ee soomaalinimaa inoo dhex ah.

Nabad Galyo xataa idin dhihi maayo. Waligiin iyo abidkiinba u naageeya shisheeyahay. Sidaas baa inoo balan ah.

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HANA

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 02:21 pm
MEDIVAL!! INAADER WAA RUNTAA SIDAAD U HASHAY EE WAA IN MANTA TA DHACDAY AY DHULOS KU QATAN.mAR DANBANA AAN QOF DHULOS AH LAGA MAQAL MAGACA "DAROOD" MAJEERTEN MARKUU HABRDIGIR U FOODAYO MIYUNA AHAYN KII 300 BOQOL EE MADAX CADAYSHA AH MOORYAN UGA DISHAY GAAL KACAYO MALIN GALIN KEED "MAREEXANA" MIYUNA AHAYN KII SIYAAD OO HARABA XAMAR AY KALA SOO CARAREEN RAGOODI •••••• DILAYNA **** EYDA IY BISADUHU KU CUNEEN XAMAR*** CAGDHEERNA MIYANAY AHAYN KUWII SIXIROLIHII INA CABDILE XASAN DHULBAHTE U CIDAMIYEEN MARKUU TOLKII CIDAN KA WAAYAY **** INA CUMAR JEESNA UU CAYDIID NAAGTISA AHAA USHAN U SIDAY " CASHO CAYDIID " OGADEN •••••• SUU UGALAY WAA LA OGAA QAXOTIGODII WATII XAWAADLE UU KU SHUABY WABIGA WAYN EE BALAD WAYNE DAMIIR MALEHA MIYAA TOLOW NIN AAN KU DABAR JARIN BAAL LOO CODEYAA .DHULOS DAROODNIMO ISKA ILAABA HADII KUWII AHAB AYNA RABIN MAXAAD USIDATAAN IDINKOO QOLANA RAACIN INAGIIBA ISKU FILANE AYNU ISLA TASHANO OO WADA WAX QABSANO ILMAADERAYAAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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abwaan

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 03:10 pm
Waa yaab waa yaab, waxaan maqli jiray afkii noolba waa hadlaa. Taasna waxaa u tusaale ah in uu maanta dhuloos rag la murmayo. Walibana ay iska dhigayaan rag waxna gala waxna guda. Bal aan is waraysanee taariikhda wax ku oolka ah ee aad leedihiin maanta meeshan ka sheega. Waxaana la yidhaahdaa sida aad isu taqaan ma tihid ee waxad tahay sida laguu yaqaan. Markii Sayidku gaalada la dagaalamay Soomaalida kale ayaa hawshaa haysay, idinkuna maatida ayaad dhici jirteen , Sayidkana Qabiilooyinka Soomaaliyeed ayaad kolba mid ka horkeeni jirteen oo aad oran jirteen "way xujoobeen". Jaaniskii aad u heshaan in aad Sayidka luggoysaana ama aad gaalka daba hash laysaana idinma gafi jirin. Dhiiglaawayaal aamusa. Xukunkii Afwaynana Qolada loo xilsaaray jaajuusnimada iyo shicibka in ay spy gareeyaan ayaad ahaydeen, waadna ogtihiin NSS. tii iyo ina Saleebaan Dafle. Haddana meela kuma tirsanidin, wax mabdda' ah ood leedihiina ma jiro, ee waxaad tihiin goroyadii tidhi "cayaarta lugbaan kula jirayaa, Haddii ay fiicnaatana labadaba waan isugu gayn, haddii kalena middana waan kala soo bixi". Taasna waxaa idin tusaysa sida aad kola Isaaqa ugu naagaynaysaan kula aad Puntiland ugu soo dhuumanaysaan, idinkoo leh innaga ayaa Hartii isku ah. Therefore; [1]You are not influential in any shape and form, [2]you don't have any prinsepals, and {3} your self-esteem is soooo low that you dare not shaw your long shamles faces in the www. Haddii aad mar dambe hadashaanna dad badan ayaan is celin doonin oo idiin jawaabi. Ficil la'aantiina darteed adhiyahow.

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Anonymous

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 03:56 pm
oh! Crying out laud. Who do you think you are trying to squeese yourself between the honorable tribes. Ordaya Iddorka daba mashxarada, kolba qofka dadka idiinku xigana qararabsada. Waligeedba lama sheegin Dhuloos oo hiil iyo hoo midna looga baxsado.
Waxaana la yidhi waa dad dhiigga ficilka aan looba samayn.

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MEDIVAL WARIOR

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 03:59 pm
KU: "ABWAAN ISKU SHEEGA".

Ninka dagaalyahanka ah ma qariyo ciduu yahaye wuu is sheegaa si cidii ay is hayaan u garato habkii ay ugu jawaabi lahayd. Markaa sidaa darteed, ninyahaw sumadlaawahi sheego cidaad tahay oo markaa ka bacdi soo tuur wax yar ee xilka leh ee aad hayso, ileen kolay wax taariikh ah oo wayn oo aad ku faanto malihidee.

Car bal nin hadii "ALAH" kaa dhigay maruun bal sheeg waxaad tahay dad iyo dugaag miduun, si aan jawaabta aad mudantahay kuugu soo daliilsho (DAMEERYAHAW HAWIYEHU ISKA YEESHAY).

Ha ku rartaan hada ileen imika waa kuu taliyaane oo waydinkii "VOTE" ka ugu shubay baqo daraadeede.

Soo sheeg cidaad somaali ka tahay, anaa ku bari taariikhdayda adna kuu sheegi waxaad shalay ku sugnaydee iyo intaad taariikhda qoran ee kali ah oo somaaliyi leedahay intaad ku leedahay DULIYAHO DULIGA ku abtirsadaa.

Waxan kaa sugaaba waa jawaab deg-deg ah.

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sugule

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 04:05 pm
TO: abwaan
Waryaa ninkagan ma cagdheer duufla tahay war nin yohow golahan angaa furanaye noo daa sayidka baqtiyay aduu sharaf kula lahaye nacas yohow amxaarka injirta lihi gumaysto.cagdheer hawiyahaad ka sii litaan saa hawiyuhu dhulbayba leyihiine idinku maxaad ledihiin.Labo shilin baa niligu kal iibsadaa .

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Mohamed

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 04:29 pm
waar dadkiinaan ku waashay majeerteen.
oo leh markuu Cali Khaliif Helayey 2 bada cod xaggee majeerteen jirey ,iyo aaway hartinimadii. ma is weydiiseen.Dhulbahante ma labo kaliya ayuu ku lahaa barlamaanka, shantii kale codkoodii aaway yey siiyeen ma isweydiiseen.ugu yaraan muxuu intii dhulbahante u heli waayey.
haddii aad wax maqashaan waxaan idiin sheegi. marka wareeggii hore la maray ina Galaydh wuxuu helay 35 kasoo qaad. kuwa kalena waxay kala heleen
93 iyo 78 markaa xitaa haddii ••••••• oo dhammi codkiisa siiyo meel ma gaadhsiiyeen. sow taa ma ogid.
Markaas waxaa la go'aansaday markii sida wax u jiraan la arkay in codka Ina salaad boy la siiyo si loogula gorgortamo in uu prim minisrerka na siiyo. oo Ina Galaydh u taagan yahay.
waxaa dhici karta xitaa in aan la ina siin booska prime ministerka waayo waa la inaga badan yahay.
dhibaataduna waxay ka bilaabanyay markii la inaka dhaadhiciyey in qabiil wax lagu qaybiyo ee degmo iyo gobol aan wax lagu qaybin. ogawna Majeerteen iyo dishiishe mooyee inta kale way oggolaadeen.
haddaba saaxiibayaal sidaa wax ula socda.

Markaa saaxiibayaal

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Mohamed

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 04:36 pm
waar dadkiinaan ku waashay majeerteen.
oo leh markuu Cali Khaliif Helayey 2 bada cod xaggee majeerteen jirey ,iyo aaway hartinimadii. ma is weydiiseen.Dhulbahante ma labo kaliya ayuu ku lahaa barlamaanka, shantii kale codkoodii aaway yey siiyeen ma isweydiiseen.ugu yaraan muxuu intii dhulbahante u heli waayey.
haddii aad wax maqashaan waxaan idiin sheegi. marka wareeggii hore la maray ina Galaydh wuxuu helay 35 kasoo qaad. kuwa kalena waxay kala heleen
93 iyo 78 markaa xitaa haddii daaroodka oo dhammi codkiisa siiyo meel ma gaadhsiiyeen. sow taa ma ogid.
Markaas waxaa la go'aansaday markii sida wax u jiraan la arkay in codka Ina salaad boy la siiyo si loogula gorgortamo in uu prim minisrerka na siiyo. oo Ina Galaydh u taagan yahay.
waxaa dhici karta xitaa in aan la ina siin booska prime ministerka waayo waa la inaga badan yahay.
dhibaataduna waxay ka bilaabanyay markii la inaka dhaadhiciyey in qabiil wax lagu qaybiyo ee degmo iyo gobol aan wax lagu qaybin. ogawna Majeerteen iyo dishiishe mooyee inta kale way oggolaadeen.
haddaba saaxiibayaal sidaa wax ula socda.

Markaa saaxiibayaal

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dire dawa

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 04:42 pm
To Sugule:

You have proved the common believe that dhuloos are foolish cowards who are insensitive to their brothers and next of kin. Why do you attack your fellow brothers who are among the closest clan who are under ethiopian colonialism when the rest of the Somali nation is fighting for them even the Hawiya that you so despise. You are among the most dispicable human-beings on face of this earth. I have always had the greatest respect and admiration for the dhulbahante people but you have now proved to me the valadity of the stereotypes cast upon your people. Next time why dont you fight back against your own colonisers who have humiliated and defiled your cherished name instead of attacking your brothers and fellow clansmen.

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SOMALI

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 05:06 pm
DHULOOS MIYAABA HADLAYA,WAR ISKA AAMMUSA,UMMAD WAXAA UGU LIIDATA,KUWA WELI SHEEGANAYO DULBAHANTE
MIYAAD OGATAHAY MAANTA INAAD TIHIIN DAMEERO,DAMEERAHA AYAABA NAFCI LEH,WAAD KA LIIDATAAN...AND BYE THE WAY WHO EVER READ YOUR COMENTS WILL LAUGH AT YOUR FACES....BRAINLESS PPL
STUPIDS,AND LOSERS,U ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING...SOMALIA NA WAXAAD KU AHAYDEEN RUFIYAANO
OO QOF WELIBA ISKA ADEEGSADO.SO SHUT THE F**K UP AND FOLLOW THE LEAD.

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Xoogsade

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 06:41 pm
Horta aan cadaysto inaanan marnaba aaminsanayn inay sheekadan Carta iyo beentan laysla hor cararayaa ay wax meel maraya noqonayaan. Cali Khaliifna wuxuu waayey riyo iyo hami aan waxba ka jirin oo lagu hungoobi doono. Wakhtigiisii ka khasaari lahaa uun baa u baaqday.

Iyadoo ay saa tahay waxaan ka xumahay oo calooshu i wareegtay in Siciid Harti la oggolaysiiyey inay 6 kursi out of 215 ku samraan. Welina gacmihii iyo dhafoorkii siima kala deyn. Halyeyganagii Ismaaciil Mire ayaan kelmadihiisii soo xusuustay markuu lahaa:

Madhibaanka doobinahayiyo gobaha daadduumay
Daayimoow maxaa xigi adduun dabadi weeyaane

Waa inaynu tabaabusheheeda gallaa siddii calanka Dhulbahante loo taagi lahaa, degdeg maanta.

PS

Sayidka Somali badan baa garab taagneyd waase la ogyahay hormuudka raggii u ahaa iyo cuddudiisaba.

Waana la ogyahay meesha uu ka hiddaystay maansada, diinta, gaal nacaybka iyo jacaylka dhulkiisa hooyo. Inkastoo illaah ku manaystay maskax weyn, rabbaa weyne, waxaa lagu carbiyey oo uu ku kacaamey Carra Dhulbahante, quraanka iyo maansadana waxaa loox ugu dhigay awoowgii Seed Magan oo reer Cali Geri ah.

Haddaba doqmaha meesha ka cuucleynayow aan idin guddoonsiiyo in Somalia tahay guri cidla' ah Dhulbahaante la'aantii, waanad ogsoon tihiin jeeraan cuqdadiyo caabuq iyo ciil nudayga idin oolin.

Mediaval Warrior:

Many good points well made. Excellent critique and analysis. Ka yarna nin reerka a kama filayn.


Bye

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sugule

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 07:38 am
Ma jidho iyo waa jidhaa waad isku qaban jidheene war maanta ka xaaxabiya ninkagan maxamed isku sheegayow ina booy waa idinka ugu shubaye sow ma ogid rasalwasaranimada inuu mar hore u qarsheyay inuu siyo saaxibkiis Cabdiraxman Tuur waxaan umalynayaa dadkii ahaa Mareexan iyo Dhaboyaco inay waxbaad ka helaysan islahayeen hadhagii siyad lakiin ayna garan mesha mooryan ka ciyaarayso waa idinka ku fanaya inaad ugu shubtene dee suga labada waraabe Salaad Booy iyo Tuur waxay idin soo wadaan.

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Laascaanoodi

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 09:25 am
Salan dhamaan dhalinyaro
anigu walaala yaal waxaan idiin sheegayaa
in maanta iyo shalayba ayan waxba u dhexayn Majeerteeen IYo Hawiyee waa ayo labadadba Talyaanigaa soo wasay oo xaga danbay ka qaataan borootiinka, taasi waa taa takale anigoo nin dhulbahante ah sidee baan Majeerteen meel isula taagay taasaaba danbi'u kabaa ir ah waa gumow nayn
waxa kalifay in la ina siiyo 9kursina maa ha inaga ee waa soomaali weyn markaynu ku hashiin weynay kuraastii ayaa hawiyee iyo digil iyo mirifle la yidhi ku raasta qaybsha saa sayna u qayb sheen majeerteena trag iyo rabi midna mayaqaan markaa walaala yaal waa in aynu sugnaa dawlada maguurtada ah ee soo socota sedexsano ka dib markaas ayaa la ogaan qolada badan takale ma ogtihiin in dhulbahante ka badan yahay majeerteen
dhulbahante wuxuu degaan uleeyahay sedex gobol majeerteen xataa magaalo qudha ma degaan keligood markaa sideebaynu wax ula qaybsanay. Majeerteen 1991 Dhulbahantaa u soo saaray maatadoodii iyo caruurtii aykaga carareen xamar ma majeerteen baa meel isla keentaagi kara
taasi waa yaab
takale ee ah doorashada madaxweynaha anigu waxaan rabay in la doorto nin hawiyee ah waa ayo maanta waa xagoooda meesha dhibaatadu ka taagan tahay markaa iyaga isu dira nin dabadiisa xaar kuyaal isagaa siduu u nadiifiyo yaqaane
waana sababtaas ta loo doortay nin hawiyee ee maaha aqoon uu dheeraa Cali Khaliif iyo cidkale toona waxaana la rabay inuu noqdo nin HABAR DIGIR AH waa ayo iyagaa wax qasaya.

takale sidee baa ugaadeen iiyo mareexaan oo naagahooda hawiyee wada wasay u hali karaan miyeynan ahayn kuwa dhulkoodii martida ku ah

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QORI

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 12:10 pm
DHUL-MAHANTE, AS YOUR NAME STATES YOU ARE COWARDS WHO ARE NOT CAPABLE TO STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES LET ALONE INFLUENCING A HANDFULL OF TRIBES TO VOTE FOR THEIR MAN.

REMEMBER THIS SOMALI SONG.

HASHA LABADA GEEL JECEL
LABA GABI DHEXDOOD
WARABUHU KU GAWRACAY.

YOU "DHULOS" RESEMBLE THE CAMEL THE ABWAAN IS TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE ONE SIDE THE ISAAAQS ARE THREATENING YOU WITH REPRISALS IF YOU DO NOT COMPLY WITH WHATEVER MATTER THEY ASK YOU TO CO-OPERATE, (POLITICS BEING THE MAIN THING).
ON THE OTHER HAND THE MAJS ARE DECEIVING YOU INTO BELIEVING THAT THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED"HARTISM".
AND WHEN YOU RUN AFTER THEM LIKE PROSTITUTES RUN AFTER MEN, THEY REWARD YOU WITH TOTAL IGNORANCE OF YOU INTERESTS.

THEREFORE IF YOU ARE PEOPLE ENOUGH STAND FOR YOUR BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS AND SHOW THE REST OF SOMALIS YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO STAND SOLELY WITHOUT BEING ASSIMILATED INTO OTHER PEOPLES.


NABADIIN.

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saylac

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 12:33 pm
Kuwii Isaaqa ahaa ee shirka ka qayb galay wax mala
siin waayay ceebay tacaal iyaga horta maxaa tirada
logu dari wayaa miyayna ahayn somali hadal kodaba
lam hayee?mise waa yahuud?

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ifraah

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 12:48 pm
Ku: dhulos

mesha Abris baa dhex ordaya Idoor ahoo marbaqabiil iska soo dhigayee yaan dadka kale lagu qaldamin waa kuwaad taqaneen oo balayo meel kasta la taagan say dadka isugu gubaan wada dhashay haday wada hadlayaan iyo hadii kaleba.Idoor dantina raacda oo ka dhexbaxa dadka wada dhashay.

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Hildid

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 04:08 pm
Who are you mother Wasayaal?
All your life someone used to tell you what to do! Now it is Ina Salaad Boy! the guy who used to run the erands for Umu Kadiija. what the wasmo are you complaining about?
Now that I got you attention. Let us talk about business..
Yaaan yaaan... Bull xaar all of you! don't you not understand the game that is going on here. the whole thing is conspirisy agains the Noble elites of DAAROOooD ISMAIL.let me give you an example. The president of Djibouti is Ciise who is married to a Idoor hocker, Inasalaad Boy is hawiya Habardigir and he was one of the crazy "Soap eater" Caydid's best steratigist for the distruction of the nation we as DAAROOooD have build, and Idoor are working behind the seen using Geele as aproxy to terminate the existence of the name DAAROOooD. So here is my insight, we are going to fight. and you mother fuckers who are whining and whining about not getting enough seats,let me tell you something, your seat is to be the president as you were born to lead. you have "As DAAROOooD" inelianable rights to lead the nation and you must understand that. lead or perish that is your destiny and whithout your leadership is why Somalia is in this posion now. So forget about this and look ahead. I have 15000 inlisted armed men near the Capital. 5000 ready armed back up men in Mudug reagoin. 15000 angary solders in Gedo region. 150,000 in Bari regoin and 50,000 in Sool and Sanaag area. so what are you waiting for. Let is wake up smell the Coffe and take your Part in this doomed socity. And let me add one more thing those numbers are the ony listed men you won't imagine how many others are armed and ready for your support. let us kill them mother wasayaal. The bottom line is Them againist us. so let us do it and victory bellong to us. You should understand that you are the only leaders and you should do your job as your grand fathers did. fight for it, die for it and live for it to rule and nothing less. nothing less.
Thank you.

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Wiil Ogaadeen

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 04:27 pm
Ifraaxay saxbaad ku taagantahay. Laakiin ma kul a qumantahay wixii daaroodka kale waayay in Dhol ka xaaji u qaylyo?

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Xoogsade

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 05:08 pm
Yaa ka gobsan Dhuloos, ma Ugaadeen? lol....

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wiilwarsangeli

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 05:33 pm
wiil ogaadeen waa suaal meesha ku jirta.
meehsa warsangeli 4 ogaadeen 7 dhulbhante 5
ise 6 gudabiirsay 9!!!!absame intii kale 0
meesha waxa loogu tala galay in daaroodka lagugu tirtiro
see waa kuwaas xoolihii haaaweeya foto madoobe is ku bilaabay ha sugu waayin inay xaaweya is dhameeyaan!!

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Colonel

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 05:51 pm
Colonel

Day!Day!!! waa taa qabyaalad iyo qurun weli ku indhoadage waar maanta aduunku waxa uu marayaa maxaad ilbaxnimada ku soo kordhisey adinkuna >>>>>>>>>>>>> ohoy....maxa...

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peace-maker

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 11:35 pm
bismillaahi Raxmaani Raxiim. You guys should just chill. You whinners don't know what u talking about. What is this nonesense? Dhulbahante, Dhulbahante... What is this a new tribe? You guys should relax? After all, you always find a way to blame Majeerteen. We always have been and will be the talk of the town, weather we like it or not. We're not the president nor the prime minister nor any body else and still we're to blame. Grow up and come to your senses please. As for the seats of the parlaiment i say this to you...."afkaagu yuusan ku ciilin" and don't expect us to fight for u on your behalf as long as you still have a mouth. After all, You're known for your literature, right? I leave that answer to you. Besides you're jumping to conclusion. May be the reason we didn't vote for you was because we care for you so that you don't have to face these naive warlords. So that you don't have to shed the blood of these darvish men and kill them for no cause. Think about it, and see the big picture Brother. Think about the job that is waiting for this poor temperary president. I mean, he has to disarm every individual that there is. He also has face Aideed's army and also abgaal. I wish him for the best, but poor guy....i pity him. So i hope you see the light brothers. And next time when there is a permanent job we'll seriously consider you. Until then let's have peace.

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DrWho

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 03:33 am
1. Allah has placed mankind under the governance of two sovereign masters, pain and pleasure. It is for them alone to point out what we ought to do, as well as to determine what we shall do. On the one hand the standard of right and wrong, on the
other the chain of causes and effects, are fastened to their throne. They govern us in all we do, in all we say, in all we think: every effort we can make to throw off our subjection, will serve but to demonstrate and confirm it. In words a man may
pretend to abjure their empire: but in reality he will remain. subject to it all the while. The principle of utility recognises this subjection, and assumes it for the foundation of that system, the object of which is to rear the fabric of felicity by the hands of reason and of law. Systems which attempt to question it, deal in sounds instead of sense, in caprice instead of reason, in darkness instead of light.

But enough of metaphor and declamation: it is not by such means that moral science is to be improved.

2 : Shall we say that the principle of utility is the foundation of the present work: it will be proper therefore at the outset to give an explicit and determinate account of what is meant by it. By the principle of utility is meant that principle which approves or disapproves of every action whatsoever. According to the tendency it appears to have to augment or diminish the happiness of the party whose interest is in question: or, what is the same thing in other words to promote or to oppose that happiness. I say of every action whatsoever, and therefore not only of every action of a private individual, but of every measure of government.

3. By utility is meant that property in any object, whereby it tends to produce benefit, advantage, pleasure, good, or happiness, (all this in the present case comes to the same thing) or (what comes again to the same thing) to prevent the happening of mischief, pain, evil, or unhappiness to the party whose interest is considered: if that party be the community in general, then the happiness of the community: if a particular individual, then the happiness of that individual.

4. The interest of the community is one of the most general expressions that can occur in the phraseology of morals: no wonder that the meaning of it is often lost. When it has a meaning, it is this. The community is a fictitious body, composed of the individual persons who are considered as constituting as it were its members. The interest of the community then is, what is it?-the sum of the interests of the several members who compose it.

5. It is in vain and futile to talk of the interest of the community, without understanding what is the interest of the individual. A thing is said to promote the interest, or to be for the interest, of an individual, when it tends to add to the sum total of his pleasures: or, what comes to the same thing, to diminish the sum total of his pains.

6. An action then may be said to be conformable to then principle of utility, or, for shortness sake, to utility, (meaning with
respect to the community at large) when the tendency it has to augment the happiness of the community is greater than any it
has to diminish it.

7. A measure of government (which is but a particular kind of action, performed by a particular person or persons) may be said to be conformable to or dictated by the principle of utility, when in like manner the tendency which it has to augment the
happiness of the community is greater than any which it has to diminish it.

8. When an action, or in particular a measure of government, is supposed by a man to be conformable to the principle of utility, it may be convenient, for the purposes of discourse, to imagine a kind of law or dictate, called a law or dictate of utility:
and to speak of the action in question, as being conformable to such law or dictate.

9. A man may be said to be a partisan of the principle of utility, when the approbation or disapprobation he annexes to any action, or to any measure, is determined by and proportioned to the tendency which he conceives it to have to augment or to
diminish the happiness of the community: or in other words, to its conformity or unconformity to the laws or dictates of utility.

10. Of an action that is conformable to the principle of utility one may always say either that it is one that ought to be done, or at least that it is not one that ought not to be done. One may say also, that it is right it should be done; at least that it is not wrong it should be done: that it is a right action; at least that it is not a wrong action. When thus interpreted, the words ought, and right and wrong and others of that stamp, have a meaning: when otherwise, they have none.

11. Has the rectitude of this principle been ever formally contested? It should seem that it had, by those who have not known what they have been meaning. Is it susceptible of any direct proof,? It should seem not: for that which is used to prove everything else, cannot itself be proved: a chain of proofs must have their commencement somewhere. To give such proof is as infeasible as it is needless.

12. Not that there is or ever has been that human creature at breathing, however stupid or perverse, who has not on many, perhaps on most occasions of his life, deferred to it. By the natural constitution of the human frame, on most occasions of their lives men in general embrace this principle, without thinking of it: if not for the ordering of their own actions, yet for the trying of their own actions, as well as of those of other men. There have been, at the same time, not many perhaps, even of the most intelligent, who have been disposed to embrace it purely and without reserve. There are even few who have not taken some occasion or other to quarrel with it, either on account of their not understanding always how to apply it, or on account of some
prejudice or other which they were afraid to examine into, or could not bear to part with. For such is the stuff that man is made of: in principle and in practice, in a right track and in a wrong one, the rarest of all human qualities is consistency.

13. When a man attempts to combat the principle of utility, it is with reasons drawn, without his being aware of it, from that very principle itself. His arguments, if they prove any thing, prove not that the principle is wrong, but that, according to the applications he supposes to be made of it, it is misapplied. Is it possible for a man to move the earth? Yes; but he must first find out another earth to stand upon.

14. To disprove the propriety of it by arguments is impossible; but, from the causes that have been mentioned, or from some confused or partial view of it, a man may happen to be disposed not to relish it. Where this is the case, if he thinks the settling of his opinions on such a subject worth the trouble, let him take the following steps, and at length, perhaps, he may come to reconcile himself to it.

I. Let him settle with himself, whether he would wish to discard this principle altogether; if so, let him consider what it is that all
his reasonings (in matters of politics especially) can amount to?

II. If he would, let him settle with himself, whether he would judge and act without any principle, or whether there is any other
he would judge an act by?

III. If there be, let him examine and satisfy himself whether the principle he thinks he has found is really any separate intelligible
principle; or whether it be not a mere principle in words, a kind of phrase, which at bottom expresses neither more nor less than
the mere averment of his own unfounded sentiments; that is, what in another person he might be apt to call caprice?

IV. If he is inclined to think that his own approbation or disapprobation, annexed to the idea of an act, without any regard to its
consequences, is a sufficient foundation for him to judge and act upon, let him ask himself whether his sentiment is to be a
standard of right and wrong, with respect to every other man, or whether every man's sentiment has the same privilege of being
a standard to itself?

V. In the first case, let him ask himself whether his principle is not despotical, and hostile to all the rest of human race?

VI. In the second case, whether it is not anarchial, and whether at this rate there are not as many different standards of right and
wrong as there are men? and whether even to the same man, the same thing, which is right to-day, may not (without the least
change in its nature) be wrong to-morrow? and whether the same thing is not right and wrong in the same place at the same
time? and in either case, whether all argument is not at an end? and whether, when two men have said, "I like this", and "I don't
like it", they can (upon such a principle) have any thing more to say?

VII. If he should have said to himself, No: for that the sentiment which he proposes as a standard must be grounded on reflection,
let him say on what particulars the reflection is to turn? if on particulars having relation to the utility of the act, then let him say
whether this is not deserting his own principle, and borrowing assistance from that very one in opposition to which he sets it up:
or if not on those particulars, on what other particulars?

VIII. If he should be for compounding the matter, and adopting his own principle in part, and the principle of utility in part, let him
say how far he will adopt it?

IX. When he has settled with himself where he will stop, then let him ask himself how he justifies to himself the adopting it so far?
and why he will not adopt it any farther?

X. Admitting any other principle than the principle of utility to be a right principle, a principle that it is right for a man to pursue;
admitting (what is not true) that the word right can have a meaning without reference to utility, let him say whether there is any
such thing as a motive that a man can have to pursue the dictates of it: if there is, let him say what that motive is, and how it is
to be distinguished from those which enforce the dictates of utility: if not, then lastly let him say what it is this other principle can
be good for?

So far What does this pledge for the Somali Reconciliation Conference in Arta or the Newly elected Government.

DrWho

London

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Eng-Nalaye

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 03:38 am
If we failed to secure the Presidency post then surely we deserve to obtain the primeministery post, that is, if Ali Khalif played a rather tactful game with Mr Ina Salat Hassan.

Ali khalif For Prime-minister!!!


Eng-Nalaye

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Somali

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 07:49 am
IRIN: The New President of Somalia Mr A/kasim Salat Hassan, Has chosen his Prime Minister as Professor Ali Khallif Galleyr. Ali Khalif Belongs to the Darod tribe, his sub-clan being Dhulbahnte means that the North peopled will not cast-off to it. The Argument being, that Prime Minister is from the North of Somali "former British Somaliland". This also means his close brothers Majerten from Harti will also feel that they are not left out. It seems that President killed one stone with two birds.

Professor Ali Khalif is Graduate from Yale, Where He read Philosophy and politics as a under-graduate student in early 70's. He then Read two years Mphil programe at Harvard.
The first time he become Minister was 1980 under the former regime Siad Barre. After 4 years he left the country because he felt the regime was utterly brutal and he could not stand his dictatorship.
He came to United States in 1985, where he completed his PhD studies and become a lecturer at Stanford University till 1995.

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Sucaad

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 08:22 am
wooow, is this true.?

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peace-maker

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 10:31 am
Dr who, what the heck are u writing? who has time for this lecture. Pls, be brief and to the point.

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Burcaawi

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 12:56 pm
I am h/jeclo, its end of the world that ppl at arta ignored dhulbahante,coz they dont know them,sorry about that dhulbahante.
waxaan ujawaabayaa ninkii yiri dhulbahante waa gun oo gabar masiiyeen ama kama guursadeen, sxb dhulbahante waa gobta ••••••• haddaanu ••••••• dhulbahante dhalin goblan ayuu aahaan lahaa.
Ifraax adna walaal waxaan ku leeyay meesha iidoor magac kale sitaa majiro ee arrinka dhulbahante kacawday waa gar.
majeerteen dhulbahante kama badna run haddii loo hadlo dhulbahant wuxuu degaa min buuhoodle ilaa ceerigaabo, taariikhdoodana waanu u ognahay haddaaanu ••••• nahay nin raga gartiisa waa lasiiyaa. haddii laga hadlo suugaan iyo geesinimo iyo baaxad deegaan h/jecklo iyo dhulbahante waa #1, nimaan aqoon
loo sheegi maayo taariikhdu waa waxaan dhiman marna. nabad gelyo

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Warfaa

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 01:07 pm
Somali dadka beenta ka daa Ai khlif galayr priminster laga dhigin..Dhulbahantoow Aniga oo majeerteen ahba waan ka xanaaqay codka hawiyaha kla siiyey ee tolow dagaalka joojiya oo IIdoorka sidii u Dila

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goodman

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 01:57 pm
i don't belave that somalia's persdent is a mather fucking hawii

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ifraah

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 02:39 pm
burcaawi thanks bro and am sorry if i said something wrong.

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Burcaawi

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 04:15 pm
sister Ifraah,
Thats ok u didn't do anything serious that was ok
gabar dhulbahanta haddaad tahay waa lagaa raali noqday. bye now

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Burcaawi

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 04:18 pm
sister Ifraah,
Thats ok u didn't do anything serious that was ok
gabar dhulbahanta haddaad tahay waa lagaa raali noqday. bye now

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wiil Ogaadeen

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 05:39 pm
Waxaa la yaab leh, Idoorku Cigaal oo Siyaad la soo shaqaystay ayay wataan. Majeerteenna Maxamed Abshir oo aan wada naqaano hawlahii uu xukunkaas kaga jiray ayay la orddayaan, mareexaan Ina Masalle. Dhulbahantana waxay la waasheen Cali Khalif, marka hadii labadii kun ee in dheer garadka iyo in yar garadkaba lahayd ee isugu tagtay Carte 100 cashana is hor fadhiyay ay garteen in wixii Afwayne wax la boobay uu Cabdul Qaasim ugu roonyahay,maxay Soomaaliye la qaylyaysaa?

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8 da million

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 05:55 pm
Ifraax & Burcaawi, wow that was touching. But I advice u to get each other's phon/e-mail. By the way, Burcaawi beenta naga daa. H/Jeclo hooyadaa oo aad iyo aad aad u jeceshahay ayaa ah, adiguna waxaad tahay Dholoos.

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Burcaawi

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 06:43 pm
8da milion sxb I am what i said why should i lie man.
not only me but ask anyone from togdheer or sanag will tell u same story.
hey stay away of ifraah, u know what her mom is h/jeclo if not her husband is if she got one,
so mr million sxb we r same ppl.

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wiil •••••••

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 07:40 pm
Salaan.
Nin ragi waa iyaqaanaa doqona isu sheegi maayo.
Thanks for Ifraah ,U got the point.
Dadka meesha ku ceytamaya waa dad aan •••••••
aheyn,iyo in ku khaldantey oo run moodey diradiraalaha. ••••••• - isku caayi maayo halkan intana hala fahmo.

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deeq

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 07:45 pm
Salaan.
Nin ragi waa iyaqaanaa doqona isu sheegi maayo.
Thanks for Ifraah ,U got the point.
Dadka meesha ku ceytamaya waa dad aan •••••••
aheyn,iyo in ku khaldantey oo run moodey diradiraalaha. ••••••• - isku caayi maayo halkan intana hala fahmo.

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Burcaawi

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 10:10 pm
wiildaarood/deeq.
sxb. ••••••• in uu is caayo mataageersani, waxaan filayaa in aydaan ahayn dhulbahante haddaad tihiin sinaba ugu maad qanacdeen qaybta jabuti,ist fair in dhulbahante helo 6/7 majeerteen helo 21, ciise xagguu degaa kolkuu helay 7. sxb dhulbahante matihide iska aamus waa abtiyaashay waana meel kadhac waxa lasiiyay wax ay geyaan maaha.cidi sxb ••••••• iskuma dirin ee meel haka dhicin.dawladan •••••• socon mayso way soo daali markaasay xaqiiqada usoo noqon,
majeerteena riyada ayuu kabixi iyo anaa cid walba kabadan.bye

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WIIL MAGEERTEEN

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 10:55 pm
OW;;;;;
YOU SELF CONGORATULTING MOTHER FUCKERS
YOU HAVE BEEN BEEN BEETEN BEFORE AND BE ASSURED YOU WILL BE BEATEN AGAIN AND AGAIN
SO SEE YOU AT THE FRONT

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Somali

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 04:13 am
August 30, 2000, 09:12 AM
DJIBOUTI (AFP English) - The new Somali president Abdoulkassim Salat left Djibouti early Wednesday to return
to Mogadishu where he faces fierce opposition to attempts to establish a central government, an official said.

Salat was sworn in Sunday in Djibouti as lawless Somalia's first civilian president for nearly a decade, but major
warlords in Mogadishu have rejected his election.

The new president was accompanied by Ali Khalif, who is tipped to be the new prime minister, and by members
of Somalia's transitional parliament, which was inaugurated earlier this month in Arta, Djibouti after reconciliation
talks sponsored by Djibouti's President Ismail Omar Guelleh. Salat told the parliament in his first address Tuesday
that a main priority of his future government would be to disarm militias and offer their members vocational
training.

But in a sign of the problems ahead for Salat, Somalia's clan-based armed factions and warlords met Monday in
Mogadishu to decide how to prevent the new president from establishing a government in the war-ravaged
Horn of Africa country.

Somalia has lacked a central government since the 1991 overthrow of Mohamed Siad Barre. Since then, the
lawless nation has been ruled by rival warlords.

Check This News at:
http://www.akhbar.com/article/0,1690,News|28038,00.html

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Mohamoud

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 11:50 am
ENG. NALEYEH,

As a Majeerteen Brother from Bosaso, i can
Understand your frustration that Dhulbahante
only received 6 parliamentary seats.

My personal feeling is Darod was better off
selecting delegates based in regional system
instead of clan based. Your Sub-Clan would have
gotten seats both in the northern and eastern
part of somalia. Possibly even a seat in Kismayo.

It was very hard to distribute 50 seats for
whole DAROOD clan. This has even damaged
more what was already a soured relationship between MAREHANS, HARTIYIS, & OGADEENS and other
sub-clans. The fact is, there were a view sub clan that was satisfied with their cuts. One inside info., In the presidential election date, GLAYDH received all MAJERTEEN VOTES COMPLETELY.
without offending other CLANS, SUB-CLANS,
and candidates such A. QASSIM HASSAN, and CADOW,
he was our beloved brother.


Take Care,

MS-USA.

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DrWho

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 04:06 am
War Rabi Kacabsada oo qabiilka Joojiya.

DrWho

London

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Dirir

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 04:17 am
Thanks Doc.

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dont hate be dispise me

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 05:57 am
dhulbahantee are bitter faqaash looser.

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sharmake

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 11:37 am
Aad baan uga xumahay qaybta la siiyay reersool oo ah dadka ugu dhiig badan ugu sharaf badan ••••••• walaalayaal waatihiin harti ilaah baana idinka dhigay waxa meesha ka dhacay dad idin yaqaan ma joogin majeertanka idin garanaya ee aad hartiga wada tihiin meesha ma joogin niman xukun jecel baa meesha isugu yimid oo ku qaybsaday waxay qaybsanayeen wax meel tagaya maaha iyaguna dadkooday iska dhex saareen oo waa kuwa maanta daba ordaya ina booy, la'na meel ay tagaan mana imaan karaan puntland iyo dhul harti toonna.
RAALI GELIN WAYN DHULBAHANTE

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Mahid

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 05:33 pm
War dawaladdii dhisantay ee warka badan iska daaya oo ordda dalka wax ka dhisa.

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Will Maxamud Salah

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 09:03 pm
To all my Somali Brothers and Sisters:

I have one question for all my Somali brothers and sisters why are the renegade Isaqq people burning our beloved flag inside their make-shift rogue state. I believe that Idoor are the #1 enemies and obstacle against Somali reconciliation. Perhaps they are bitter over not recieving enough ghat for their already rotten teeth and ugly smiles. I think it is time we Somali's stop blaming each other for our misgivings and realise that the true enemy are the develish Isaqq people and that they will stop at nothing to stop any peace and reconciliation intiative taken by our nation. Puntland people are good-hearted and decent human beings but that bastard Abdullahi Yusuf is going against the wishes of his people and sidelining them out of the peace process. I apologise to all my Dhulbahante brothers about the small amount of seats they recieved but look at the bright side at least you have been giving the prime minister. And i have one more thing to say to those ugly ghat-breath isaqq maniacs stop burning our beloved flag or else............... you loooosers

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burcaawi

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 11:16 pm
wiil maxamuud saalax,
waan hubaa inaanad dhulbahante ahayn,
dhulbahante cadawgii muu ilaawin nacas baad
tahaye. haddaad dhulbahante tahay maanta
maad tiraahdeen enemy#1 waa isaqqq,
haddaanu isaqq nahay sxbdhulbahante qalad
ayuu naga galay waqtigii siyaad barre
waanuse ilawnay,ninka waanu islaynaa waanuna
heshiinaa haddaanu isaqq nahay.maanta colaad
isaqq iyo dhulbahante dhextaal majirto,
xoolahoodaa wada daaqa dad kala fog maaha.
ciiro ayaad isku qarisay oo dhulbahante matihid,
dhulbahante waa ogyay cadawgii waakuwii
carruurtooda,dumarkoodii,duqaydoodii,iyo
dhallinyaro badan oon la ilaawin,kuwii xamar
ku gawracayay weeye,hadda ogownoo dhulbahante
•••••• wax uu kusameeyay majirin.
haddaba inaad majeerteen tahay ayaan filayaa
sun lawareegayee hasheegan cid aanad ahayn.
dhulbahante usheegimaysid isaqq waxa uu yahay
arrinta calankana sxb s/land waa tashatay
haddii ciidan iyo xoog iyo maalbana ay noqoto
waa udiyaar difaaca s/land maanta soomaali
koonfureed warwar kama qabaan soomaliyi waa
istaqaan. waxaan kuusheegayaa doqon
majeerteenoow midha gacantaada ku jira kuwo geed saaran haw daadin,waad arki haddii wax kasocdaan dawladaad sheegayso c/laahi cidi
kuuma dhaanto.ama xaar ama dhuus s/land waa
kudaysay waana raggaad taqaanay aqooni kuuguma
laabna.bye

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Sharmaarke

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 05:10 am
Aad ayaan uga xumahay in dhuloos uu qayb ahaan u hello 6kursi, arinta Ali Khaliif Galaydhna waxaan oran lahaa, meesha ma 2 qof oo dhurbahanta ah kaliya ayaa joogay, maxay dhurbahantaha meesha joogay codkooda u siin wayeen Ali khalif, walaalayaal waxaan idin oran lahaa haddaan majeerteen nahay, hana eedaynina.

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salaam

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 06:04 am
Actually, Dhulbahante got 10 seats now that includes Ali Khalif galleyr. isaga waxaa kursiga sharaf ahaan usiiyey Madaxweynaha Djabouti.

EE ninka ENg isku sheegoow war badan ma aad heysid.

Wasalam

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Dhoodir

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 06:07 am
Waa runtaa salaamoow. Dhuloosku waxey heleyn 10 nin, laakiin naagaha waxba lagam siin.

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shadiya

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 07:53 am
TO: Burcaawi wow sifiican baad u hadashay waxaas dhulos iska dhigaya iska iloow waad garataye.


TO: sharmarke

Adi marna waxaa ledahay rali ahada marna hana eersanina nin yohow meel uun ku adkayso ok.

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Anonymous

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 01:26 pm
War ninka kor ka hadlay Dhuloos iskama dhigine sowka qabiilkiisa sheegtay maaha mise indhahaad la'dihiin:

Wiil Maxamuud Saalax= Carabta Maxamuud Saalax= more or less Majeerteen.

Thank you and bye

Burcaawi xaggaad ka deganeyd Burco?

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Hudoon

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 01:42 pm
Burcawi,
Majeerteen iyo Dhulbahante waa wadaa dhasheen. That is a fact not fiction, don't you forget and don't underestimate that fact.

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Burcaawi

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 05:36 pm
Anonimous,
sxb burco haddaan ku iri waa war dhan xaafada
haddaad rabto e-mail ayaan kugu sheegi,balse
adigu sxb magac uun soo qoro anonimouska is ka
daayoo.
Hudoon,walaal cidi ma oran MJ iyo dhuloos
walaalo maaha,waa la'ogyay in ay walaalo yihiin
maantase qofkaad wax wada qaybsan kartaan ayaa walaalkaaya.markaa huudon wax kale ma oran
aan ahayn MJ diradiraalaa jooji isaqq
iyo dhulbahante ama wersangeli dhexdooda
taasina ceeb maaha.
by the way,SHADIYA tnx for the comment.
nabad gelyo

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Anon

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 07:29 pm
Burcaawi,
Isaaaq agenda miyaad wadaa. Dhulbahante iyo Warsangeli ciidna ma dirdir karto, waa caaqiliin iyaaga taashada, MJ waa garab, xaadir ah maalinta loo baahan yahay.

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Burcaawi

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 09:49 pm
haaaaaaa, ANON..LOL,
sxb, agenda aan wadaa majiro,MJ hadduu garabkaa
yahay cidi kuu diidi mayso,balse halaga helo.
madaxweynii doorashadiisa waad ogtay halkay iska kiin taageen,ayagoo raadinaya primeminster ayay
qaasim kadoor bideen khalif,imminkana bal waad arki,haddiiba uu qaasim doorto khaliif, bal halka
MJ arrinkaas iska taago.maalmaa inaga xiga.
ANON, dhuloos meel hakaga dhicin nimay iska dhicin waayeen MJ wallaanu kadhicin.
war ANON sxb malaa dhuloos matihide naga daa?
maanta halkaa ha inoo joogto.

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Amadeou

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 10:31 pm
Dhuka xaaji:

My kinsmen;
Let's not freak out. Those seats are only 3 years. it is only temprary after all.

About Ali khalif's election, believe me he himself even knew that no one will elect him. What somalis needed was a •••••• president-,especially habargidir, that restores the law and order in Mogadishu. And A/qasim suited that post.

And there is great possibity that Ali khalif will be prime minister. And even if he won't be , it is ok. Remeber Sayind Mohamed said Dhulka xaaji is just "waraabe". and you know what waraabe said when he was asked if he needed shoes. Waraabe "hadii kabe la ii tolo waa alxamdulilaahi. hadii kalena waa rabil caalamiin". ahahah.

And My Kinsmen, remember we will be doing what we are suppose to do--any coming govement is ours(ninkii hooyadeen guursadaa anaga waa adeerkeen). We will be marrying couple of A/qasim's daughters and will be chilling after all. ahahahahaha. I got Cayr girls proposing me already hahaha. can you guys imagine that!

However, i have another idea that we need to work it out. It is i guess we need to fill a lawsuit against Nugaal region. Those majeertens conned and fooled us. they took our historical name--nugaal and gave us theirs--sool.
Maybe you don't seem to understand what i am trying to say. Nugaal is known to be "carro" dhulka xaaji and sool is known to be majeerteen's place. When Garoowe took the name Nugaal, Laasacaanood was under Garoowe and that is why garoowe were called Nugaal. And after Laasocaanood became region, the region's name was already taken. And that is why some stupid people proposed the name of Sool. sool is near Qardho. can you guys imagine that? what the heck we have to do with qardho?.

I say this is unfair. Nugaal is a great and historical name. And It was and it is Dhulka xaaji's land. Whenever i hear Somali poems and songs that mentions Nugaal , i felt being robbed by some dhabayaco. Imagine what the next coming generations think about where was Nugaal. I urge to take this case seriously. Nugaal is dhuloos legacy not majeeteen's. If we don't fill the lawsuit and get our name back, tomorrow we will hear some majeerteen claiming that dhulka xaaji's fine-breeded horses from Nugaal were belong to them. Imagine majeerteen claiming be horsemen!.

My Kinsmen let 's restore our historical name and not let majeerteen rewrite the historyand rob our names and history.


Amadeou

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Ayan

Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 07:24 am
lol lol lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waa igu bilee waxaa ii cadaatey MJ iney gob yihiin1
Gabanka Amedeou, Mareexaan cabsiidii weli ma ku jidhaa? Ha ha haa!!!

Burcaawi,waanaad xooggallka aheene, MJ support Ali K Galleyr. Eeg the big picture!

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Anonymous

Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 08:03 am
A somali;

The biggest problem facing somalia is and has been depedency or the expectation that of foreign aid. This is the main reason why most people here are arguing about who got how many seats and say they deserve more yada yada yada.

Bros and Sis, it does not matter how many seats were given to one tribe or another, what matters is that we have a government and which insha alaah will bring all somalis together and make us proud of our land and heritage once again. If you want to compete amongst yourselves, do so by building the best region (gobol) within united somalia and there is no single gobol in somalia which can stand on its own.

being elected president of somalia now is not a walk in the park and personnally would not want it for myself, it is a big reponsibility and what this president does will be in the books for generations. at 58, if Mr. A/qaasim put his hand on the holly book and said he will lead a fair and islamic government, all the luck to him. because in the day of judgement, it does not matteer which qabiil you are but your deeds.

Good luck to Mr. A/qaasim for the sake of Somalia

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Wiil Maxamud Salah

Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 08:38 am
Burcaawi:
I can't believe im actually responding to comments made by a psychotic burcaawi you maniacs not only lack the mental capacity to understand what im writing or the message that im trying to convey to our thick skulls but you accused me of trying to be someone else. Everyone knows that my name clearly stated my identity and that I am as a brother put it more or less majeertaan. So listen up ilka-cas you attacked my identity because you have no case to built you know very well everything I stated was the truth, you and your likes are working overtime to keep our poor nation divided. You are right about one thing Hawiya are not our friends they are blood-thirsty savages but at least they seem to want peace and reconciliation instead of trying to hang a cloud of guilt over all Darood's heads because of what Siad Barre's brutal hitman commited. Unlike Marexaan and Hawiya I am not a cold-blooded killer and I dont advocate for murder or any bodily harm to Isaqq people afterall they're our misguided brothers right? but I wont stand by while all these Idoor double agents are sabotaging Somali unity James Bond style( I dont understand why anyone who calls themselves Somali would burn their national flags even habash dont do that shame on you Idoor). So in conclusion the message im trying to convey to all my ilka-cas brothers is stop trying to keep our nation divided and hop on board the peace train before you get left behind in the dust. Im sure one day all my Majeertaan brothers will come to their senses and join the bid for peace but until then know your role or shut your hole.

P.S Good luck to the new president he may have been in the old government and he maybe a savage Hawiya but hey you can't have everything your way

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sugule

Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 10:07 am
Ilka yar waxa dhaboyaco idinku bixisaad qabtaan waxaad Marexanow ku faanaysan caydh baan kan nooha ah iyo caydh baan is dhalnay kuwii siyaad baacsnayay muyayna ahayn hawiyee idinka kaliya weeyan kuwii ku baabay xamar ee raginu ey iyo bisado cuneen. War anag dhulos ah qabiil dhan oo caydh ah oo Fiqishini la yirahdan is dhalnay oo nala daga mana rabno hawiyee dabo madoobe doqon yohoq caydh waaba caydhe maxay haystaan ku fanaya. waxaa layidhi umisho ilow siyo dhowaa war waxaa cunayseen markii niliga soo baacsaday iyo waxaad dilayseen baa ilahay manta ini baday inaad •••••• gacan yare u noqotaan.••••• baa idinka gobsan mareexanow ee iska daya waanu is dhalanay dhulosna saad og tihiinba waxaa dhalay islaan Arab ah ee idinku caydh ha idin gumaystane na daaya.

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Amaal

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 07:10 am
RE:MAXAMUUD SALEX

Whatever,u have said we will take that as a compliment. ••••• are the only clan that have provided for its pple peace, stability and harmonious co-existance for its people for the last deacdes. While u pple have been eating and murdering each other. Anyone, who threatens the peaceful existance will receive a stiff responce from us. You pointed out u are Majeerteen,..well what can i say to a two faced?. You don't stand for anything ur like camelions change colour according to the policical situation. You pple are political prostitutes you will got to bed anyone that will have you..for a price!. Even if it means short changing the other Darood as long as your insatiable,..selfish nature is satisfied.
So before u point your ugly, avericious fingers at •••••,..look at yourself..and what u are doing to your own brothers.
•••••, has achieved a Statehood,..u pple are still trying find a role,... a lead,..an opportunity rather than creating one for yourself.
The only contribution Darood has made to the Somalian society is death,devestation, genocide, famine and the inevitable exile u pple are in at the moment..as your pple are sparadically scattered all over the place. You have lost your routes, respect, home, and the trust of somalians.
You pple are "shaydaan indha cad"!.
And the sad thing is rather self assing yourself and asking yourself how did we go wrong? You're stil continue youe relentless denials and pursuing selfish course of what can i get and who can i step over to get it. Shame on you pple u really disgust me. We know what Majeeteen are about,..its a shame the rest of your tribe haven't cotton on the situation. Majeerteen will always look out for itself,..and the rest of Darood are foolish not to realise this and they will forever suffer for their naivete. IIDOOR OR ••••• we are proad of our achievemnet..and yes we will burn the flag of Somalia...if it threatens our affairs...what did Somalia ever done for us? nothing but commit genocide against our pple.The gews haven't forgot what the Nazis have done to them why should we forget what u FAQQASHHHH pple done to us!!. AND MAJEERTEEN two face we know what u about so keep back stabbing your brothers after all that is what u good at!!!>

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gaani

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 07:40 am
TO: amaal idoor

Dhilo Idoor makula qayili karaa cawa •••••• kuwaa ku leahay miyayna ahayn kuwii kusoo Kufsaday abahaana dilay CRY LOUD BITCH, Cigaalna idiin taliyana waxuu ahaa siyad bare SERVANT siday markaa kugu tahay taas.

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Liibanoos

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 07:45 am
Burcaawi pls keep it downlow,and keep in touch with Ifraax, Mida kale Dhuloos aniga oo ah Hawiyoooooooos ma fahmin ujeedadaada, Mareexaan ayaa aamusan oo fiirinaaya danta ummadda oo ku qanacsan wax kasta oo laga siiyay ahna gobta daaroodoos marka sxb hunguri weeyninka iska daa awalba idinku waxaa aheeydeen jaajuusiinta shaqadiinana A/qaasim diyaar buu idiinla yahay, mida kale Habargiddir waxaa la siiyay 11 kursi abgaalcismaana 11 dadkaas ayaa lagu yareeyay kuraasta mida kale fiiri Gaaljecel oo 5 mar ka badan dhuloos waxuu helay 5 kursi Gugundhabe 5 pls iska aamus sidii dumarkii meelaha ha ololeeyne.

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Hawiyyos

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 07:53 am
Fellow brothers and sisters Daaroodos, why do u hate us like this? see we don't really hate that much. Waa la is dagaalaa lana heshiiyaa maahan inaad aduunka inta ka dhiman ku heeysaan hawiyee daba madoobe, i wonder idinku ma dabo cadihiin? mida kale anigu dabo madoow ayaa ila wanaagsan taas ayaana ku faraxsanahay.
waxaa cad in Mareexaan uu yahay dad labada marba colaad iyo nabadba wax lala qaybsan karo marka ka dhigta rolemodel hadii aa tihiin MJ iyo dhuloos kuna soo laabta dhulkiina iyo beerihiina hadiiba aad beero leedihiin lol@ kidding.
peace

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Hawiyyos

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 07:54 am
Fellow brothers and sisters Daaroodos, why do u hate us like this? see we don't really hate u that much. Waa la is dagaalaa lana heshiiyaa maahan inaad aduunka inta ka dhiman ku heeysaan hawiyee daba madoobe, i wonder idinku ma dabo cadihiin? mida kale anigu dabo madoow ayaa ila wanaagsan taas ayaana ku faraxsanahay.
waxaa cad in Mareexaan uu yahay dad labada marba colaad iyo nabadba wax lala qaybsan karo marka ka dhigta rolemodel hadii aa tihiin MJ iyo dhuloos kuna soo laabta dhulkiina iyo beerihiina hadiiba aad beero leedihiin lol@ kidding.
peace

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sugule

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 08:04 am
libaan wax makuu shegaa waxba •••••• ha sheegan ilko yar baa tahay hadaad amustidna dan baa kugu jirta aamusnanta sababtoo ah wadankiibad soo liqday oo wax somali idiinku hadhay ma jirto maanta waa inaad Hawiyee aad askar u ahataan taas baa shaqadina ah dhulos afkaga ka bixi wuu kaa nasab san yahay adiguse magacaga 'Ilko yar ah baa ku shegay waxa aad tahay" gabdhahana yaan la af lagaa dayn.

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Burcaawi

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 11:19 am
RE:Mohamoud salah,
BRO.ur speach dosn't even have;flow,logic
and association,u sound some one with
LOOSE ASSOCIATION(thougth process abnormality).
dont try to use words u even don't know
their meaning like MANIAC,PSYCHOSIS...
the way u used word MANIAC shows u just
throwing words u over heard.
MANIAC is psychiatric word for mood disorder
which is Elavated,irritable mood,and its
opposite of major depressive disorder.
watch ur words next time.
I dont wanna talk about S/land cuz u have
nothing to do with it.
Let me tell u one thing ppl of S/land r happy
with what they got and fortunately thats
their choise,they dont care the blue flag
anymore.hey look b4 u leap,thats brotherly
advice.u got sort of peace so b4 u support
exile government think twice,if u that
desperate go ahead and join them,but hey
one more advice dont build anything in
mogadisho this time they may kick ur hole
again.(midho gacantaada ku jira kuwo geed
saaran looma daadsho).
RE:GAANI
u dont deserve any comment.
RE:AMAAL
inaadeer haw jawaabin doqonkaa gaani
waqtigaaga qaaliga ah haku lumin.
amaal waad ku mahadsantay faalada
cilmiyaysan ee xagga sare aad ku qortay.
well said Amaal.
LIBAANOOS:
sxb,sugulaa ku gartay adoo ciiro isku
qarinaya.
bro.U said keep in touch with Ifraax tnx 4
that,heeeeeeey ifrah where ru sister.lol.
that's it 4 today bye guys.

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DrWho

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 02:08 am
Salamu Alaikum Waraxma.

War dhalinyaroow maa rabi kacabsataan oo aad joojisaan qabiileysigaan aad wadaan, war Rabigiin idin abuurtey kacabsada.

Kuligiin Munaafaqa iyo wax daran ayaad lawareegeysaan, makudhacdaan inaad waxaad kobtaan ku qoreysaan aad dadka hortiisa katiraahdaan, and what does that make you, I am certain you know the answer to that.

Alaah kacabsada.

DrWho

London

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DrWho

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 02:12 am
Read This article, It really made me grin immensely:
I wonder whether this is true or flasified information.

;;;;;;;


Somali Support Committee

Monday, September 04, 2000

Press Release

Somalia: From Barre to Bore government

Washington DC: Somali Support Committee and Somali Development Council are hereby denouncing and
dismaying the so-called government that Mr. Geelle and his financier Mr. Bore put it together. The Somali
Community through out the US and Canada had meetings denouncing the out come of the so-called Djibouti
peace process and its so-called government. One of those meetings was held in Virginia on Sunday, September
3, 2000. The Somali Community in Washington and Virginia area was in hand to participate the meeting. The
leaders of the community and prominent Somali scholars and politicians made speeches denouncing the
government, also similar meetings and protests was reported through out Somalia, especially Garowe, Bosaso,
Qardho, Galkaio, Hargaisa, and Kismayo. Nine of the Sixteen Somali regions are against the so-called
government in Somalia, which is more than Seventy five percent of the Somali Country. Puntland, which controls
five regions, Somaliland who controls three regions and Jubba land as one region.

In a randomly gathered Polls from the Somali Community inside and outside the Country the out come was
obvious 23% in favor of the government and 77% oppose the government, on the same Poll but with different
question 15% favor Mr. Qasim as president and 85% oppose. With all who favor come mainly from the South,
especially Mogadishu and its neighborhood. The Poll has margin of error of 3 to 4.

According to our reliable sources SDC and SSC has learned that the Djiboutian Tycoon Mr. Bore spent Five
million dollars on the peace process not to mention the suitcases full of Money that some of the participants were
received and delivered into their Hotel rooms. We also learned that the election process was fraud and forged
election papers were printed.

The question that every one is asking is why Mr. Bore spent all that money?
1. Is it, because he was bothered by the Somali problems and decided to help, or
2. He gave that to the Somali government as a loan, or
3. He invested that money.

You guessed right; he invested all that money and gambled with it to persuade any other options beside his. He
picked his candidates and lobbied them till the end.

According to a high reliable source we learned that Mr. Bore has a sugar and other commodity business in
Mogadishu and his representative is the brother of Mr. Abdiqasim Salad Hasan, the so called elected or picked
president, which stayed Mr. Bore's own Villa from the day of his inauguration, also Mr. Bore has a communication
business in Somalia and his representative is Mr. Ali Khalif Galyr, the so called prime minister to be.

Can I say that Mr. Bore is the only man in Africa who made his own country? Maybe not but he made and picked
the influential people like the president and the Prime Minister of the one Somali country.

According to Mr. Robert Oakley, former US ambassador to Somalia to his interview to the editors of Jamhuuriya
and the Republican "I don't know what is going on in Djibouti but seeing so many of the same old people, I would
be surprised if you get any thing but the same old solutions. And if you have something on paper that doesn't
mean it is going to happen. Though it's true to some degree in the US as well but I noticed in Somalia over the
many years that something on paper doesn't necessary mean it is actually going to happen."

Also in a reference to Ian Fisher's Article (Somali gets a leader now they need a nation) dated August 31, 2000)
which stated as follows: - "Though Somalis often talk about the dangers of clan, one of Mr. Salad's main
qualifications was, in fact, his clan background: He is a leader of the ••••••, specifically the Habr Gidir subclan,
which dominates Mogadishu, the main area of unrest. He also gained credibility because, unlike some
candidates, he lives in Mogadishu, and in recent years had overseen a broad effort to re-unite the ••••••. He is
said to be personally tough and dogged, and in the interview, he outlined an ambitious vision for transforming
Somalia from a sick state into one of the leaders of the Horn of Africa, itself a region of instability. Mr. Salad's
critics point to his long career in the Siad Barre regime."

I believe that says all, the so-called Somali leader Mr. Hassan has a long history on all the problems of Somalia,
starting from Barre's regime and his human right abuse and the massacre of the Somaliland people to the civil
war era which he himself called Somalia a sick State the one he played a big role fueling the hatred and the
massacre of some of the •••••• and all the none •••••• people.

In our earlier article (Djibouti: friend or Foe) published August 24,2000 and was written August 22, 2000, Five days
before the election, we unveiled the truth behind the peace process and who will be the President and the Prime
minister. "Yes" we were on the money.

Most of the candidates for the high office are the same people who committed gross human right violations
against the people of Somalia, the same people those who were responsible under their management to loot and
took all the countries resources and reserve into their private bank accounts in Europe and North America, the
same people who forced the brightest Somali intellectuals to leave the Country, the same people who caused the
civil war.

One must know that Somalia and the Somalis are tired of the instability and the mad militia that the civil war
created, but on the other hand we can not forget one while seeing the other, which is seeing the same people like
Abdiqasim and his delegates who caused all of this and today trying to change face and put on another jacket.
Somalis are proud and decent people, and it seems that they could not find a solution for themselves without
calling back the old guards, as the so-called president Mr. Qasim said on his interview with IRN, The first
generation of independence are largely dead or of a very old age. The second generation is my generation, and
practically everyone of my generation had a role in twenty years of government. So that generation is the
generation who can run the government now. The third generation is the generation of the 10 years (of civil war),
who are not in a position to lead.

Mr. Qasim are you referring your group as the third generation that can not be trusted if I may count as Aden
Abdull's government as first generation, Abdirashid's government as second and Barre's as third and the civil war
generation?

As we outlined before the forefront of Djibouti so-called government posts are the remaining of the dictatorial
Barre's regime and Warlords. With all due respect Mr. Geelle or Bore was that what you had in mind?

Somali Support Committee will support, work closely and welcomes all those who sincerely are working to get
back their lost dignity and state as the rest of the Somali's inside and outside the country. But disagrees the
Djibouti's current Bore's government. The government of Djibouti strongly undermines the power of those who
oppose the so-called government that will benefit the warmongers and some few Djibouti's who want to look only
their interests.

We are calling all the intellectuals, the forgotten generations and all the leaders of the stable and peaceful regions
which have enjoyed relative stability in the last nine years like Puntland and Somaliland to come forward to deem
their rights as a nationalist and bring all the Somalis together. Somalia is all one, Somaliland, Puntland, Bay,
Bakol, Mogadisho, Hiran, barava, Jubba Land and etc. We can work our difference without Mr. Bore or Mr. Geelle
and their conditional agenda.

Mohamed Abdullahi
Founder and Chairman of
Somali Support Committee
Somali Support Committee and the Somali Development Council are a Non Governmental Organizations created to help examine the
long-term political solutions and economic initiatives in Somalia.
Contact: Mohamud60@hotmail.com

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Darwish

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 02:15 am
I can not argue with idoor or ••••••, they are just losers. That is exactly what they are.

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TO= SHADIYA

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 03:35 am
TO SHADIYA

WALAAL SHARMAARKE YAALKU WAA FARA BADAN YIHIIN
LABADA RAÝINA LABA NIN OO KALE DUWAN AYAA KALA
QORAY

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HASAN

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 07:41 am
ninkan DRWHO isku magacabay waa garac somaliyey waana IDOOR munaafaq ah waxuu ku hadlayaana wax ka jira majiraan idoor saa la socotan ba waxay ka xun yihiin nabada somaliwayn .War gormuu galaydh u shaqeyaa bore shegaysid galayr waxuu la shaqaystaa NIMAN ilmaderadis ah oo la dhaho ILMA SANCAD abudabayna ganacsi xoogle ku leh ee nin yohow jooji somali kala qubideeda qof wayn oo wax garad hadaad tahay idoorland hadaad rabtaan go,a lakiin iska daaya xaasidnimadan idinku baahday.

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A-kismaayo

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 07:47 am
waryaada nac nacda meesha kala taga haddii aad is leedihiin meesha dad walaala ah hala isugu diro waxaan u maleenayaa inaad 100 goor qaldan tihiin, waxaadse ogaataan nacaybka aad halkaan ku muujinaysaan badankiina oo qaarkiin xitaa iska dhigayaan dhulbahante ama majeerteen ama warsengeli ogaada in intaas aysan noo siyaadinayn oo aan ahayn is jacayl, midnimo iyo wax wada qabsi, tan keentay puntland ma aysan ahayn wax kale ee waa uun qurunka soomaali inteeda kale ka buuxda waana kuwaa maanta horumar iyo nabad ku talaabsaday, war meesha ka kaca oo runta arka gun-nimo waa taas intaa idinka soo reebtay, oo aad la kici la'dihiine. wake up and smell the coffee.

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sugule

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 07:57 am
Hasan walaal waa runtaa anigu marna waxuu qoray
rumaysan maayo waa wax ilaahay cadaabay .Waxaaba ka
sii daran waxuba iska dhigayaa nin aan Qabiil
aqoon oo wadaad ah walee ima dhumatid.

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Alipapa

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 08:25 am
what is the point of this dude(Drwho)?. Can anyone up there tell him no one can buy his fabricated lies?. We 've seen enough somalilanders crying of envy and jealousy. Too bad dude, you wasted your time and ours by preaching childish this game.


Alipapa

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DrWho

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 08:48 am
Woow woow!.

This is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard.

I am not Idoor. The above is copied from the Somalitalk.com.

The author is Majeerteen. I am not the author. If you read my articles you would see that I am neither somalilander nor idoor. I am real Somali, and I care about this new government.

Word of advice: I know ilma sancad. Ganacsi ayaanu kuwada jiri jirney soomaaliya amrkii aan joogey, Calaahi sancad, Cabdirisaad and Caliga London joogaba. Marka Maandhoow xasanoow haboodin, arinkaa shirshoore laguma aqoonin e.

Wasalamu Alaikum Warahma

DrWho

London

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Ceergaabo

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 08:53 am
War hade anagaa DrWho naqaanee fara kaqaada waa nin ••••••• ismaaciil ah oo reer jiidaliyeed ah.

Ceergaabaawi

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hasan

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 09:11 am
TO:ceerigabo

haduu maxamud garad yahay aniguna farax garad baan ahay horta aan ku shegee ,waana iska gartay duulkii jiranaa ee qolo walba daba oridi jiray inuu ka dhashay drwho iyo adiguba.Maxaad se ugu hadi waydeen inaaderkin INA DAFLE tugii siyad kabah u qaadi jiray ee dhulbahte magaca xun u soo jiiday markaad dadka sharfta leh ee ka cararay xukunkii kaliii tashiga ahaa ad meel uga dhacaysaan maxmud garad waa qabiilka dhulbahante ugu liito ceerigabo idinkaa leh mantan calankii idoor baa ka taagan taas muu ka hadlo FAGADHAHA cigaal hoosta kaga jira war hooy ha isku dirina faarax garad yaan baa bah niliga dhigine naago yohow waligiinba xumaan wayn iyo nacayb baa idinku jiray ilaa abad waa idinkii ninka reer hagar ku dilay lass-canod ee bisha dhan bandooga reer hawd ku idinku soo rogeen ilaa ladilay kii nika dilay .

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Xoogsade

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 09:24 am
Isku xishood ninyohow wax ku hadli mayside, daaca-qudhunkana naga jooji, sowdigan Garaad Faarax magaciisii weynaa ku galgashay. Jooji rabshada Ibleys kaa adeegaye....

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sugule

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 09:33 am
TO: xoogsade

XASAN ma ceebtinii buu banaanka soo dhigay dee ha na sheegine na qari ku dheh.

xoogsade+drwho+ceerigaabo= are same

xasanow inaader u qabooji waxu way inala dhasheene somalidaa waxay ku maahmaahdaa fartada xumi filiqfiliq kagama hadho.somaliyey waxii la dhici jiray dhamaatay iyo tuugadii hada waa in lilaahi lagu dhaqmaa.

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Burcaawi

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 09:54 am
Waaryaadhaheen dee dr.who cidkale iskama
dhigin wuu iscaddeeyay bilawgii waa nin
dhulloos ah laakiin fikraddiisu sheegay
qoraalka meesha kuyaala wuu soo guuriyuun.
ninka HASSAN layiraah ee isku dayaya inuu dhulbahante kala qaadqaado sxb dhulbahante
matihide waa lagu yaqaan haddaad tahay
kamaad hadasheen nin dhulloos ay dhexdooda
iska dileen iyo ficiltan yar oo dhexdooda ah
qabiil soomaliyed oo aan dhexdooda hoose
ficiltan yari ooline majiro markaa ninyow
waxaan ku oranlaa ninyow iska aamus lagaa
guri maayee.
ragga s/land ku soo taaganoow sxb s/land
maaha iidoorland balse waa british s/land
dhulkii la oran jiray dadka degana waa layaqaan
dhulloos,wersangeli,ogayslabe,gadabuursi intuba
waa kamid maamulkana way ku jiraan markaa
iidoor bay kaaga dhegtaye sxb muxuu iidoor
kugu sameeyay ma wax aan haaaawiye kugu
sameyn waa yaabe ma wanaag iyo nabad waxaan
ahayn ayaa s/land aad kala kulantay.
haddaanu nahay s/land(•••••,dhulbahane,warsangeli,gadabuursi,ogayslabe)
waxaanu soomaaliya lahadli karraa marka ay meel
loogu hagaago yeeshaan.inta kahoraysa iska
illow wax soomaali layiraah.mana muuqato next
10yrs-ka maamul in ay samaysan karaan,waxan
hadda jabuuti usamaysayna adba waad ogtay wax
soconaya inayan ahayn waa raggii hore looga
dagaalamay ee latuuray waxaa kamaqanuun
macalinkii weynaa.waxaan ku iri waxba
dhalanteed haw riyaaqine waynu eegnaa.
bye now

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Xoogsade

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 10:13 am
Sugule nin wax kala garanaya ma tihid. Ninkii labaad ee boggan wax ku qoray baan ahay haddaad u fiirsato hadalka aan ku saxeexay waad fahmi lahayd inaan Ceerigaabo iyo aynigeeda toonna aanan degin. Habeen baan weligay u hoyday oo dhaxani igu dishay anoo Burco u socda iyo abtiyaashay deetana uga sii wareegaya Buuhoodliyo hawd. Haddaan magacayaga kuu sheegana waad garan lahayd oo Dhulbahantoo dhan baa yaqaan.

Markaa waa mid adigana kugu socotee nimanyohow sida isu dhaama oo inaga joojiya camal-gummeedka aad waddaan.

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shadiya

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 10:31 am
CAJIIB CAJIIB CAJIIB!!!!!
WAXAAN U SHEGAYAA DHULOSKA 95% AH EE RAACSAN WALALHOOD HARTI INAY MESHA SO GALEEN 5% CALOOSHOD U SHAQAYSTAYSHA AHAA MARKAA YAAN WAR LAGA GURIN ISKA ILOOBA WARKODA BAROBOGAANDADA AH IDOOR BAA LACAG SOO SIIYAY .WAXAANE IDIN SHEGI NIN WALAALKIS CAAYAYA OO WAX BEEN AH KA SHEGAYA IDINKA ASXAAN MA IDIIN GALAYAA.

INADAFLE ISGO SILICSAN BUU DEGAN YAHAY (ARETARIYE) HADUU TOL JECEL KA DHASHAY MAXUU DHULKA DHULBAHANTAHA U IMAN WAAYAY ILAYN SAAD LA WADA SOCOTAANBA GAANI OO DAD LOGU NECEB YAHAYBA TOLKIIS BUU DHEX JOGAYE.XITAA SHIRKII JABUUTI MA IMAN TAAS MA IS WAYDISEEN. ANYWAYS NINKA LA BAXAY BURCAAWI KA DHEX BAX DHULOS OK HADAADAN AHAYN 5% CALOOSHAOD U SHAQAYSTAYSHA OO MAGACII SOO BEDALAY.


SHARMARKE OK WAAN FAHAMAY YAA.

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BURCAAWI

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 12:50 pm
SHADIYA>
waad salaamantay,waxaad itiri kabax meesha
inaadeer anigu nin reer togdheer ah ayaan ahay
weliba south togdheer haddii aad eegtid
cinwaanka halkan aynu wax ku qorayno waa
sool,sanaag,south togdheer intuba
waa british s/land dhulkii loo yiqiin
imminkana loo yaqaan s/land. markaa inaadeer
is qabooji dhulloos waa s/land.
weli matagtay sool ama buuhoodle markaas
ayaad ogaankartaa xaqiiqada.
dhulloos iyo idoorna dantoodu waa mid.
shadiya anigu REER BALIDHIIG ayaan ahay wanaaga
buuhoodlena waa ku farxayaa oo waa degaankaygii
nin cagdheeri nama dhex gali karo.
bye.
shadiya inaadeer hablaa iidoor iyo dhulloos
marka ragu sheekaysanayaan adhigiyo maqashay
kala celin jireene!
bye. sister shadiya

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Wiil Maxamud Salah

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 07:18 pm
To all confused and frustrated maniacs (Idoor):

Never in my entire life did I ever think I would see a Burcaawi person speak of rationality or try to sound educated since everyone knows your all illeterate lunatics. I had doubts about your identity at first but now I am certain that you are a Burcaawi nomad because you dont have the mental capacity to comprehend my overall message. You people are living in a state of denial trying to convince yourselves that you have estabilished a recognised and respectable government. Wake-up sleepers this Dreamland fairy tale will never hold water before you know it you and you retarted leader will come crawling back to Muqdisho begging us to take you back but by then it will be too late because the civilised people in the central government will know the savage and backward nature of your people and your dispicable and disgusting culture & heritage. Listen up morons I meant every word I said Idoor is responsible for the downfall of our nation, this can not be disputed it is a known fact that not even the most fanatical Somalilander could deny. Burcaawi next time you decide to open your foul and stinking mouth remember the rest of us decent Somalis dont want to suffocate from the stinge of your breath you Idoor maniac.

Amal:
I wasn't trying to insult or compliment anyone I was just speaking the truth as a best saw fit. The history of Darood is well known and also the history of Isaqq and his jewish origins are also well known. Dont try to complicate the issue by distracting from my main point which is stop separating and disolving the unity of our nation. Dont bother pointing the finger at Majeertaan you wont fool anyone but yourself. So I suggest you go back to your impovrished desert and leave decent Somalis alone. "Isaqq are the only clan that that have provided for their people peace and and stability" lol dont make me laugh. Puntland has achieved not only more economic prosperity but also political stability. You ugly jews are known for your false pride so stop lying to the people. What has Darood done for Somalia you write? well for starters we not only built the political, economic, social infrastructure of the past regime but we sustained it for 40 yrs and you Mooryans destroyed it so how can you have the audicity to ask such a meaningless question. So in conclusion my overall message to Idoor people is stop this insanity, return to your senses and realise that reunion is your only viable option.

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dhul

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 08:09 pm
dhulbahante

waxa iska leh masayjkan bahararsame, waryaa reer nabi xaasid baad tahay ee maxaa kaa dhex saaray dhulbahante iyadoo laga hadlayo dhulbahante baad isku soo magacawday bahararsame, waad jirantahay sida imaadeeradaa,ee toos o bara

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laas-anod

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 08:44 pm
KU:dhul
waxaa ku gubay miyaa inadafle lihii caydisa sharmuut iyo sharmuuto orda ceerigabo xoraysta waa kuwa gadhwayn dabada idinka wasee inadafle gamcihii iyo caloshii baa ku dheratay qoxoti nimouu africa ku jogaa ee ma gayn waydeen dhulka aa degtaan jaajus danbe iyo wax la dhaco dhamaade .reer nabi xaasid nabigu waa INADAFLE dadka waxaa tihiin inaa xoolo tihiin inadafle jaajus nabi ula baxay maxaan idin kala hadlaa baharsame waa layaqaan meshay ka taagan tahay somali waligood qof jaajus umay noqon afwaynaad jaajus u ahydeen hadan idoor meel mafadhisan kartaan ilayn doqmihii sanqada la,aa baad ahydeenoo dagaalna wax iskagama celin kartane .tuug namdii dhamaatay ee tashada reerkii nabiga ula baxay ruux bini aadan ah oo waliba aan macno nadan lahayn baad ilayn tihiine waa (tugii somalidu wada taqanye ina dafle)

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DrWho

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:05 am
Salamu Alaikum Warahma.

Xasan iyo dadka lamadhabka ah.

Marka hore Faarax Garaad waa walaalaheen oo hadey naga adag yihiin wax dhib ah uu kojirtaayi ma ey jirto.

Anigu shaqsiyan maqabo in Professor Ali Khalif Galleyr uu danbiile yahay, bal waxaan aaminsanahay inuu yahay nin sharaf iyo qiimo weyn kuleh umada soomaaliyeed dhexdooda. Maqaalka warkaan kiciyeyna mid aan anigu qorey maahee waa mid aan kasoo guuriyey kobtaas Somalitalk.com ah. Marka walaalayaal yaan la iscaayin, oo qofkii qof wax kudiida si hifan ha ugala hadlo. Anigu kobtaan waxaan iticmaalayey tan iyo waagii la abuurey soomaali oo dhamina wey igu taqaanaa inaan ibjective man, marka dhalinyaro Adabul xiwaar ama qaabka loodoodo yaan laga tegin.

Waad mahadsan tihiin.


DrWho

London

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waa war

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:09 am
Waa wareey

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Kamiloon

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:32 am
This is really very stimulating subject, are you all dhuloos. Cause if you are, what are you going to do about your garad who have been jailed in Berbera?.

Shame on you dhuloos.


Do something about this people. Let us deal with it like we use to deal with these filthy idoors.

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Somali-girl

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:59 am
Wallee Dabodhilif Dhulbahante maxaa heley??.... Give it up pple it is time to talk like Somalis as one and forget about Qabiil etc. Plus this new gov is only a temporary one. All I care about is a loyal Gov for a change. So you so-called Dhulbahante pple I guss you should be happy with your seats as you have no alternatives (Once you claim to be Reer Waqooyi then Harti) sorry Majeerteen are too taugh for you and ofcourse Mareehaan. Give it up please yourselfes. The real poeple are holding the power now (I don't mean to offend anyone just opinion after reading some of the above)

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boqortonyadii baharsame

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 05:07 am
TO:Reer Macaan Jecel(Maxamud garad)

and DRLAIR maxaad la ooyi waryaa intaa borobogandadaa wadatid dadka la dhex imaanysid.idiot baad tahay ALI KHALIF waxba ha faanin kagama baahan adigu edeb isku yeel.

TO:dhul -----magaca Bahararsame hadii lagu soo qoro mesha waa magac qiimo leh maha sida kiina dadku ka sasayaan saa cidaan wax ka galnay majirtee .

boqortonyada Baharsame waa kuwii guryahgii iyo berahagii markii muse ismacil kaa qaday kaga soo ceshay do you remember ee uu garad cabdiqani garad jama ay idoor yirahdeen nin aan baharsame ahayn la xali mayno ee uu idinku ceshay ceerigabo idinkoo sida ugaadha dhextaagan laascanod taas ma ilowdeen ,ilayn inadafle ••••• oo reer abti u ah waa la ogaa waxuu ku sameyey .Ina dafle miyuna ahayn kii majeerten naagohda yiri waa free hala kufsado .Inaad hadashan reer MACAAN jecel idinma eka ceebihina baan soo fagynaa ee hooy amusa inta goori goor tahay ood waliba dhiig daradina aad hada u shaqaynaysaan idoor oo idin arki karin..

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DrWho

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 06:07 am
To:Boqortooyada baharasame


Adeer Kheyr alaha kusiiyo, Bahararsamena waa naga fiican tahay oo waxey ugu fiican tahay dhulbahantoo idil.

Marka iska nafis, oo waxaad rabto sheeg.

Somali Girl@

I seriously doubt that you a girl, so, i would state this to you man: Tribelism has no place for this modern society, it will be burried soon, so please get use to this fact alright.

DrWho

London

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ifraah

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 08:42 am
TO:drwho

Waryaa hooy afkaga ka bixi dadka qurun la yohow, adiga kuwii sablaale iyo kunti waaray deganaa maa ahayd ee markii dambana laga dhigay guulwadaha, forums sharaf dambe maku lihid taas la soco habartaa la kudye.

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HASSAN NADIIF

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 08:57 am
TO= ALL DHULOOS
WAAD SALAMAN TIHIN DHAMAAN REER DHULOOS,
WALAALAYAAL WAXAAN MARMARKA QAARKOOD LA YABAA DHALINYARO BADAN OO DHULOOS AH WAXYAABAHA AY QORAAN, ANIGOO AH NIN DASHIISHLE AH WAXAAN AAMIN
SANAHAY IN DHULOOS LA SIMAN YAHAY IIDOOR AMA MAJEERTEEN, HADDANA WAXAAN LA YAABAA DAD FARA BADAN OO IDINKA MID AH INAY KU FAANAN INAY SOMALILAND AMA WAX LAMID AH KA MID YIHIIN, GOORMUU
IDINKA TAYADIINA IYO TIRADIINA ILLAAH IDN TUSI DOONAA OODLA TARTAMAYSAAN NIMANKAA, WAXAAN MARMAR AAD UGA XUMAADAA, DADKA IDINKU SHEEGA DABADHILIF
RUNTIINA WAAN KA GUBTAA {AS A REAL HARTI}, WAAN OGAHAY INAA TIHIIN DAD DHIIG LEH OO TOL AH.
WAKE UP DHULOOS, YOU CAN DO IT.

TO=BURCAAWI
WAXAAD TAHAY DUCUF, HORTA MA AAMINSANI INAA DHULOOOS TAHAY WAXAAN U MALAYNAYAA IIDOOR
SHEEGANAYA AYAA TAHAY,

TO= MAXMOUD SALLAX
SOMALIDU WAXAAY TIRAAHDAA, LAANGAAB WAA EHLU NAAR
WAR HANA CEEBAYN EE CADAAWADDA INTAA AH ISKA DAA!!

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Akhyaar

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 09:40 am
I am really surprised how civilized the Majertens are. Their clan is being tortured here and they don't protest or react negatively. Majertens are one of the most hated tribe in Somalia but walaahi you fall in love with them when you get close to them.

This thread is a clear example of how ahead and civilized the MJs are. Look you are calling them all nasty names yet they are holding their horses? Why? Coz they donn't have your scale of ignorance.

It is not that the MJ's are evil but the problem is that their way of thinking is different from yours coz they have been in modern civilization much longer than any other Darood Clan has been.

I believe that Somalia's elite clans are Isaks and MJs.

Am I majerten? I am not even Darood but honestly Majertens are the only tribe Darood you can find Mogadishu's oldest areas such as AbdiAziz and Eelgaab Area. Where were your parents and grandparents when MJ's where part of such a big city? The land of Shalemo Ceelgab belongs to Majerten which shows you that these people were city dwellers while your parents were herding camels.

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SUCAAD

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 09:55 am
HASSAN NADIIF


RUN MAKUU SHEGAA WALAAL ANOO KU JAWAABAY DHULBAHATE ISMA JECLA ISMAN RABAAN ANIGU GABADH DHULBAHATE AH BAAN AHAY WAXAA KA DAACAD AH SIDAY MESHAN ISUGU MAAGAYAN WALIGEENA SAAS BAY AHAYD 'ARIN DHACDAAN KU SHEGAYAA MID BAAN KU SHEGAYAA SAYIDKU YIMID NUGAAL EE UU RABAY INUU CIDAN KA SAMAYSOTO MESHA WAXAA KA TALINAYAY GARAD WAXUU KU YIDHI SAYIDKA NIN YOHOW OROD TOLKAA CIIDAN U DOONO HALKAN WAA NUGAAL ANA HALKAN KA TALIYA SAYIDKII INTUU TAGAY BUU ISLA NIMAN DHULBAHTE AH OO AAN WALIBA KA FOGAYN WAA "CALIGARI" NIMANKA LA YIDHAHDO UU KU SOO DIRAY GARAD KODII MESHASNA AY KU DILEEN MARKAA MAXAY KULA TAHAY TASI MIYAYNA XUMAYN NIN INAADERKII LOO ADAGSANYO MA NIN BAA , WAXAA SOO RACAY INADAFLE DHULBAHNTUU JILIB JILIB ISKU NACSIIYAY OO ISKU DIRAY ILAA MANTANA AAD ADBA HALKAN KA ARAGTAA NACAYBKA KA SOCDA.DHULBAHANTE WAA SHISHEEYE KALKAAL WALALKOOD BAY CADOW KUYIIN MARKAA SIDAY ISUGU TIIRSAMI KARAAN .MARKII SOMALI BURBURTAY AY QABIIL QABIIL ISKU DILEENA LA YIDHI AMA HARTI HALSKU RAACO AMA DAROODNIMO RUNTII INTII BADNAYD DADKODA HARTIGAY RAACEN EE INYAR OO WAXAA SOO HADHAY IDOORKU UU MASRUUFO ILAYN QOLO WALBA BALAAYO WAA LAGA HELAYAAYE .LAAKIN ANIGA WAXAA ILA FIICNAYD IN INTAA YAR LAGA XOOG BADIYO LONA DIIDO XITAA DHULKA DHULBAHANTAHA INAY SOO GALAAN LAKIIN IYAGIIBABA KA XOOGWAYN BAY ILA TAHAY INTII BADNAYD OO WAAD MAQASHAY INAY MAALINKASTA ISKU LAYAAN LAAS-CAANOD DHEXDEEDA . ANIGU WAXAAN ODHANA LAHAA TALO AHAAN DHULBAHTOW DHOWR JEER BAAD SHISHEEYO KALKAAL NOQOTEEN EE HARTI IYO WALAALIHIIN DHINAC KA RAACA.ILAAHAYNA DAWLADAN DHALATAY HA INOO BARAKEYO WAXBA IDOOR QADIMAYEE HADII DHULBAHANTE MEEL KASOO WADA JEESTO.

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UGAS. DHUL

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 12:08 pm
man I did not know dhuloos hate each other like this. this message from Ugas. as dhuloos can we all get a long and defend our name as One? As young dhulbahane I never thought such hatrate exist a mong my people. All you pleople who had posted these massege here, You have betray the nation of Dhulbahte and you all sick and ignornace that who need to look for help for your mental illness. I am Ugas, dhuloos and I am proud to be one. All dhuluus are dhuloos to me. All pple here are not dhulbahnte u are suckers.

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8da million

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 03:43 pm
mar haddii Idoor suldaankii xadhig u taxaabay muxuu dhuloos sugayaa? barrina naagahiina ayay guryaha kala baxayaan. Waxaanse Idoorka u shagayaa in ay maanta ugu tala xumaayeen, waayo ninkay isku taabteen waa nin darood Imaaciil ah. hadii arrinkaas uu Dhuloos idinku daayana daaroodka kale ayaan daynayn. sidaa awgeed balaayo ha isku kicinina ee si dhakhso ah suldaanka u soo daaya. Arrinkaasna waa iga talo. Midda goosashada anigu waxaan qabaa in aad xaq u leedihiin hadii aad tidhaahdaan aayahayaga anaga ayaa ka tashanayna, waayo awalba idinka ayaa koonfurta ku soo darsaday. waxaana filayaa hadii aad aragtaan soomaali sharaf leh oo waxlagu darsan karo, in aydaan ka maqnaan doonin. Dhibkii waynaa ee idin soo gaarayna anigu shaqsi ahaan waan ka xumahay, dad badan ayaana ila qaba arrintaas. laakiin taas waxaad kaga qabowdaan Soomaalidii kalaba siday isu gashay waad ogtihiin. Idinkuna markii add ku soo noqoteen dalka waxaad samayseen waad ogtihiin. Marka qolana hadh lama seexin, waana colaad iyo xaalkeed. Ina Cigaalla waxaan kula talin lahaa in uusan cidna qasbin ee uu la soo istaagu "shacabka ayaan afti ka qaadayaa". Halkii loo batana uu wax ku hoggaamiyo, dawladda cusub ee Soomaaliduna ay sidaa ku qanacdo. Taasna waxaan u leeyahay maanta Soomaaliyi wiil u dhasha mooyee mid ka dhinta uma baahna. Waxaanse aad uga xumahay calanka la gubay, waayo waxa aad gubaysaan waa hilibka iyo dhiiga Soomaaliyeed meel kasta oo ay joogba. Ilaah waxaan ka baryayaa in uu dadka Soommaaliyeed balaayada ka dhexsaaro.

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Xoogsade

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 03:59 pm
Isaaqu dabinkuu u dhigay Garaadku bay ku dhex dhaceen isagoo doonayay inuu Dhulbahante u janjeedhiyo xagga Soomali weyn iyo in la israaco taasoo ay sahlayso haddii shakhsigiisa lagu xadgudbo markuu Somalilan ka dego. Waxaaana hadda meel ka soo wada jeeda oo isku mabda ah raggii maalin dhoweyd xabadda isu haystay ee Soamliland iyo Puntland kala xadhig-jiidanayeen. Markaa Cigaal iyo lataliyaashii si bay ka noqotay oo farsamadii istaratiijiyada ayaa ka maroorsantay. Waxaa kaloo igu maqaala a inuu Fagadhe warqad is-casilaad ah u gudbiyay Cigaal oo uu isla markaana ku canbaaraynayo qabashada Suldaanka Barkad, waase laga diiday.

MAXAMUUD SAALAX GADHWEYNE ama qofkii yaqaanow igala soo xidhiidh cinwaankan: koofiyad@hotmail.com

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mareexan

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:37 pm
T:xoosade

Shekadaas maa rabtaa inaa naga dhaadhicisid reer baadiye fagadhe waa kaba qaadaha dhan ee cigaal ee war kale maa kentid saaxib duqaas garad ku shegana waligiis lama siidaynayo ee maxaa samynaysaa.ma soo dulee mise ragii geesiyasha sida libaaxa kugu soo hada.


TO: dashiishe

af noolana waa hadlaa eyna waa ciyaa adi duqii tuugsan jiray ee hirad ma ku dhalinoo ee jogay italy ,dashiishe waxaa iska leh sida naagaha majeerten waligiisna nin caan eh maka dhalan

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WIILSADE

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 09:20 pm
SIR MA QABE ALLOW SAHANA......

KU: DHULBAHANTE & NAAGAHA HARTIYEED (MJ)

KA: GOBTA DAAROODKA "SADE"


KURAAS SALUUGID......

DHULBAHANTE, FARA BADNI HADDAAN EEGNO, REER XASAN, WAA HAL LAF OO SADE KA FARCANTA AYAA IDINKU LABA JIBBAARANTA...KOLKA SIDEE BAAD "SADE" ULA XISAABTANTAAN? GEESIYADII IYO GOBTII DAAROOOD EE TIRO IYO TAYOBA LAGU YIQIIN, INKASTOOY HARTI OO DHAN TIRO KU DHOW YIHIIN, NASIIB WANAAG SADE, KA TAYO BADAN OO CANAASIIRTA KALE EE SOOMAALIYEED OO DHAN BAA TAAS U QIRSAN!!! SADE, KURAASTA DAAROODKA HA LA BADIYO AYUU KU DACWOONAYAA....DABADEEDNA, HARTI IYO SADE AYAA WAX LOO QEYBSAN, KOLKAAS MJ HARTI KA KHIYAAMEYSO AMA HA DHERJISO INNAGU TAA SHAQO KUMA LIHIN.....


DAAROODNIMO:-

MA KISMAAYO HORTEED, MISE DABADEED........MIDBA

KISMAAYO HORTEED:- ILMO-•••••••, HALYEEYGA CURADKA AH, SADE - ALLE HA JANNEEYEE, GEBI AHAAN WAA AY U SINNAAYEEN MJ OO AAN SIRTOODA LA GAARI KARIN MOOYEE...


KISMAAYO KOLKEEDII:- SADE ALLAA U SAHANEE WAA GARTAY IN BAABBI'INTIISA LOO TASHADAY OO MJ, WAA SIDUU SAYID MAXAMED U YIRIYE..."INTA NAAGO AH IYO HALAMASHA MJ BAA LEH".....AY HARTI IYO HABAR WACASHO KA GAARTAY.....MAGAALADU WAA MAGAALO HARTIYEED.....WAR IMMISAA HALYEEY SADE NAFTIISII U HURAY KOLKUU ARKAY 4 JAAMAC SIYAADA OO AAN KU XISAABTAMI KARNO IYO 3 DHAFOORA OO QUSHTA HORE CAGAHA WAX KA DAYA, ILAYN SACAD BAA WADNAHA KA GALAYE....DAAROODKA KALE OGAADEEN, AWRTABLE IYO DARBI-•••••••/TANADA, BAL AANNU KHIYAAMO GOOB-ISAGA-BIXID KU EEDEYNO. WELI MA DHICIN CIIDAN SADE AMA TANADA OO DHAAWACOODA KA SOO TEGAY AMA GOOB ISAGA BAXAY. KISMAAYO LEELKASAA NALA DIFAACAY OO KOL WALBA HARTI OO IDIL KA CIIDAN BADNAA, TIRO IYO TAYOBA.....INNAGAANA XAQ U LEH INAAN KU RAAXAYSANO OO CANSHUURTA QAADNO....


CIIRTAADA DHAMAA CAYDAADA YAQAANEE....

GENERAALKII NOO XIDID AHAA EE LAANGAABKA MJ KA AHAA, WAA KII NAGU DIGTAY.....ISAGOO ISKU HALEYNAYA HABAR-WACASHADIISA, SIIBA DHULOOS INAY MAGAALADA U DIFAACAYAAN.....KORNEYLKII DHULOOS KOLKII RAQDIISII LOO SHEEGAY....WAA KII MISANA, DOQONI CATOW KAMA DHAMMAADEE UU INA YUUSUF U HABAR-WACDAY, KORNAYL "SHAN DAQIIQO" LA BAXAY, WAA TAY HARTI KOL LABAAD LA TIMID, DOQONTU XARIGGA LAGU DILAYEY XULSULLADA KU SIDATAAYE, GENERAAL AXMED WARSAME OO DHIBBOW KA SAARAY QAARKOOD IYO BARRE HIIRAALE OO ISKA YASAYEY ISU HABAR-WACASHADAAS SADE LAGU MALGAYO - WAATAY U QAYILEEN OO LA ISLA GARTAY, •••••• IYO SOOMAALI WEYNTA KALE NAMA XAQIRTEE, NIN YUUSAN NAGA HARIN AMA KISMAAYO OO AANNU KU TAMASHLEYNO - DIGASHO LA'AAN.......WAA XEELAD GEESI IYO SADE, GOB IYO RAG LAGU YIQIINEE, BUGTII AROORYAAD WAA TAY BARQADII GENERAALKII CAGA CADDAAN IYO LUG KU SAAREEN....SHAN DAQIIQO TIISAA WAX KA LAABNAAYEENEE,WAA TII DHAAWAC SHAN DAQIIQO LAGU QABTAY OO GOB LAMA GARAN WAAYEE, DIYAARAD NAIROBI LOO SAARAY.....SI LOO SOO DHAYO, WAA KII RAG YARYAREYSI MALEHE, U ABTIRIYEY UNA MAHADNAQAY GENERAAL AXMED WARSAME...

SIR NAAGEED LAGAMA SALGAARO....

MJ INAY KHIYAAMO IYO DHIBAATO BADAN YIHIIN, SADE LABA JEER GARAY - KACAANKA HORTII IYO KACAAN DABADII....KACAANKA HORTII WAA LA OGAA INAY DUMARKOODU UMMADDA KALE XAFIISFADA KU DHEX CAAYI JIREEN.....KACAAN DABADIINA KOLKUU CAYDIID GAALKACYO 500 OO QOF KAGA XASUUQAY AYEY SADE U HABAR-WACDEEN SAA UMMADIHII KALE OO DHAN AYAA LOO SOO BAHAYSTAYE, C/CASIIS CALI BARRIHII, WAA TUU CIIDAN SADE, GEESINNIMO IYO XINIINYO CAYDIID KAGA SAARAY GAALKACYO....CAYDIIDNA DIB DAMBE GAALKACYO UMA SOO HAWEYSAN....

DHULOOS SHIRQOOLKII IYO KHIYAAMADII HARTINNIMO GARTE OO MAANTA WAA IYAGAA KISMAAYO KU SOO NOQDA.

INA KHALIIF GALLEYDH HADDAY MJ OGGOL YIHIIN, SADE CODKIISOO DHAN AYUU SIINAYAA.....HADDII KALE MJ KA SOO XOROOBA, DABADEED AANNU XISAABTANNO...
SADE HADDAY NOQOTO MJ IYO SOOMAALIDA KALE, SOOMAALIDA KALE AYAANNU CODKA KU DEEQAYNAA....MJ HADDAY KHIYAAMO WELIGOOD KU NOOLAANAYAAN HARTIDA HA KU EKAADEEN OO INNAGU KA TASHANNAY, RAG IYO DUMAR, SAQIIR IYO KABIIR.....

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Somali-girl

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 11:35 pm
To DrWho

I feel sorry for you I guess you are not used a Somali girl putting her ideas forward like I did. Poor thing Somali girls have much broader and better ways of thinking than loosers like you in London claiming and lying to have titles that don't even exist.

Back to the discussion (I WISH ALL THE BEST FOR ALL SOMALI WHERE EVER THEY ARE IN THE WORLD INCLUDING ALL QABIILS) I also wish a very good and successful GOV for our country I am from Mogadishu so I care about it being the same as it was a lot unlike some loosers from villages like DRWHO (you are even disgrace to the name of that nice TV progam in England. I am out

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HASSAN NAD.

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 01:21 am
TO= MARIIXAAN{AMA BAKHTI SIDE}

WAXAAN LA YAABANAHAY WAXA ILKAYAR AY DASHIILE KA
KA RABAAN, ANI WALIGAY NIN ILKAYAR AH ARAGTIDIISA WAXAA IIGU HORRAYSAY MARKII UU DAGAALKU DHACAY AYAY AYGOO TUUGSANAYA WAXAY NOOGU JIMAADDEN BOSSAASO, ILEEN WAA DAD ILLAAH CAYRNIMO KU IBTILEEYAYE, XATAA MADAXDIINA SIDA GAANI WAXAA LAGU MASRUUFI JIRAY BOOSSAASO, DACAAYADNA IGAMA
AHA TAAS ILAAH WAA OGYAHAY ILKA YAR FARA BADAN
OO TUUGSAN JIRTANA WAA OGYIHIIN, ANAGU MAJEERTEEN
WAA DAD AAN ABTIRSI WADAAGNO ILAAHNA ISKU DEEGAAN
NAGA DHIGAY EE IDINKA MAXAA ILKAYAR IDIN DABA DHIGAY, WAANA ARKI DOONTAAN INTUU MAJEERTEEN IDNKU
IMAAN KISMAAYO WAXAA IDNKA QAADAN DOONA ILJEEX
KISMAAYANA AWOOD AAD LEEDAHAY KUMA QABSAN EE WAA
LUGUU QABTAY RUNTANA HAKA LEEXAN.

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Ugas DHUl

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 05:58 am
Wiilsade

are you really sure you are who you claiming to be or you trying to be smart here huh. I love Sade and they are my pple and you are trying to play games HERE, but sorry it is not working. would you try it again.
I am dhuloos and I do respect Sade as brothers, that is bad news for you.

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DrWho

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 07:20 am
Somali Girl.

Surprise what stupefaction that is.

Somali girls are far better than what you really are that I can assuredly tell you.

It is rather admonition to witness colossal amount of people whose have the privilege of education and they are failing to utilise it in
most appropriate way, What shame to you all.

I will say once more, I do not matriculate any of your defiled and stupefied ideas, I chose not to partake this futile discussion.

Ladies and Gentlemen let us grow up and act upon our senses.

DrWho

London

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somaligirl

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 08:34 am
DRWHO •••• u mother fucker.

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