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YOU CAN TAKE OGADEN OUT OF SOMALIA, BUT CAN YOU TAKE SOMALIA OUT OF OGADEEN?

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): RA'YIGA DADWEYNAHA - Your Opinion: Somalia: Archive (Before Sept. 16, 2000): YOU CAN TAKE OGADEN OUT OF SOMALIA, BUT CAN YOU TAKE SOMALIA OUT OF OGADEEN?
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QOSLAAYE

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 05:58 am
Dear Reader: I am just trying to present the history of Ogaadeen and how they have a preception of confusion, loneliness, stateless, but are they really who they are claim to be(somali)? I will leave that upto you.
It appears that the government of Meles Zenawi is sincerely trying to bring together the diverse peoples of Ethiopia under a democratic regime. After years of civil war and repressive rule, the people of Ethiopia want peace and development for their regions. In an attempt to accommodate ethnic aspirations for autonomy, the new constitution divided Ethiopia up into regions based on ethnicity. In addition, Meles has attempted to form a cabinet that is ethnically diverse. There is still opposition to his regime, complaints that the election process has not been free and fair, and grumbling for greater autonomy for some regions, but for the most part, Ethiopia appears to be making the transition to democratic rule. However, there are still reports of human rights abuses and the government has recently been relentless in its attempt to push out Islamic extremists who have been trying to motivate Somalis to engage in a Aholy war@ against the state.

Somalis remain an at-risk group because of their history of opposition to the Ethiopian state and because the transition to democracy is so recent. It is not clear that peace will be permanent. The Somali region and other regions are in need of much development and natural disasters such as drought continue to plague the region. If economic hardships continue to face the people of Ethiopia and different ethnic groups feel they are being neglected under future democratically elected governments, they may take up arms once again. At present, this scenario does not seem likely, but the history of ethnic conflict in Ethiopia is a reminder that unification of the country will take much work. The other threat to both the Somali people and the state at present is Islamic fundamentalism that is likely supported by both Somalia and Sudan. Islamic fundamentalists, especially al-Itihad al-Islam, are agitating for a Aholy war@ against the Ethiopian state, and this could affect Somalis negatively because they are Muslims and their region borders on Somalia where al-Itihad is based. Currently, the Ethiopian government is using great military strength in order to eradicate al-Itihad from Ethiopia. So far Somalis have largely avoided the conflict, but they could conceivably be dragged into it, especially as civilian victims, by either the government or al-Itihad.

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Cawl-Yahan

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 11:52 am
Please Qoslaaye: Okey I admit you are well educated, well spoken, well english writer, but just get Ogaadeen's Case. It really bothers me bro.


Thanks

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Anonymous

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:55 pm
QOSLAAYE HAL BAAN IDHI OGAADEEN WAA SOOMAALI OGOWNA OGADEN MA IHI
CAWLHANA HAL BAAN IDHI WAAD JILICSANTAHAY 'STOP BEGGING DEFEND YOUR SELF WAA AMXAARKU KUU GUMAYSTEE.

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qoslaaye wase.

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 02:46 pm
qoslaaye war malaha nin yahaw ogadeen waxay ku badeen waynaa.malaa hooyadaa ayay kugu hor xoogeen . hooyadaa ayaa laga dhaansan jiraye haddaadan fulay ahayn soo sheeg qabiilkaaga aan kuu jawaabo e, haddii kale dee iska caytan waligeedba yixiriin mucaaranta waa la arki jiraye. mise garac aan qabiil lahayn ayaad tahay.

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G/sare Ciilane

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 03:10 pm
Qoslaaye waxaan loo la yaabin kadib burburkii dawlad iyo qaran Somaaliyeed waxaa khaati laga taagan-yahay laan-gaabiyo yamyam iyo qadaad wayn iyo waliba jaajuusiinta ilaah iyo umadoodaba dambiga ka galaya. Hadii uu yahay nin wax garad ah Axmaar iyo reer Soomaaliyeed ma u ka la eexdeen waxaadse saaxiib ogaataa hadii males sanaawi go'aansaday in uu damiyo xabadii xorimo doon ee waligeed ka socotay dhulka loo yaqaano Ogaaden ee soomaalidu dagantahay waa uu riyooday Somaali wali halkeedii ayay qadiyadan ka taagan tahay e la soco halgankuna waa sii socon waligiis. Maxaase tigree ka galay diinta Islaamka ah iyaguba waxay hormood u yihiin diinta gaalada e. Ooyaayow la soco dabka iyo halganka ka socda dhulka somaalida ee maanta haysato xabashidu in uu yahay mid aan waligiis damaynin

Waa sarkaal horay uuga tirsanaan jiray XDS.oo ah kuwii baday Ethiopia in ay u yeerato ciidamao shisheeye halganka Ogaaden waligii waa jiri waana guulaysan doonaa dowlad kasta oo timaadda oo somaliyeedna waa ay ku qasbantahay in ay halkaas ka sii wado.Xabashida hilibka qayriin kuwii baray wali waa sidoodii.

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Mr.Objective

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 05:00 pm
Salaama Caleykum Somaliyeey!!

Qoslayee presented a challenging question, is the Ogaden clan Somalis?? Well they inhabit a country called Ethiopia not by choise but by force, and if that make them non Somali then ask your selves are the Isse of Djibouti and Ethiopia Somalis?? Are the ••••• clans inhabiting the Hawd in northern Ethiopia Somalis?? I believe the answer is yes they are all Somalis. Culturally speaking the Ogaden together with the ••••• clans and a couple of Dhulbahante are the greatest poets of Somalis so in this perspective can we deny their Somaliness?? No is the answer!! However they are a very poor clan and starvation and relentless persecution by the evil Ethiopian government and a failure among the Ogaden leadership to realise that they must use politics and not weapons against the Mengistu regime have crippled the Ogaden. The Somalis in Ethiopia are beginning to unite and that is agood sign"the ballot not the bullet" is the power in this media driven world of today. Ogaden people need development and less war politics,i believe the Ogadenis need go the same way Somaliland has taken the road of self help and economic revival, stop fighting a war against the big Ethiopian army since you cannot win any time soon, instead think about your childrens future they can not wait 20 years for the Onlf to liberate Ogaden they need education NOW not in the future!!! I wish the Great people of Somali-Galbeed(Region5) all the best and peace and prosperity. Inshallah!!!

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Cawlyahan-Dhaba

Friday, September 15, 2000 - 12:38 am
Aaabahaa lanaarye mar danbe hala bixin Magac sidaasoo kale u sharaf badan sida Cawlyahan hadii kale si jilicsan ha u hadlin maxaad kala hadli mid awoogiiba qowsaar kolla adiga kuu ahaa kolla gaalada u ahaa
HADANA WAXOOGAY TIXA IGA HOOYA ileeb ab iyo isir baan ulahaaye

Qoslaayoow qowsaar baa ku dhalay amase qoom waalan
Qoslaayoow qudhmuun baad ahayd waana qolw dhabahe
Qoslaayoow qayaha waa taqaan amase geed qiiqsi(sida dumarkuu qayeystaa)
Qoslaayoow wixii hadal qudhmuun waa adiga qowlkaga Anigana qiyaamaha ma rabo inaan qisaas naado
Q/laayoow ninkii qarana ah baa hadalka aan qayrsan anigana qofkaasaan ahoow kulama qooqaayo
Qalbi dhagax qafilanbaatahiyo qoowqab(nag nagnagiigan) aan jirine, Anigana nin qayrkaa ah ma ahi hadalna waa qiime
Qowl kale hadii aan ku dhahoo oon waliba soo qaydo(soo koobo) qosolkaa waxaa iigu wacan qaabka aan ahaye(Yacnii-calashaan dowladnimadayda Ogadenia iyo Ogadenba)
Qormadana qabkeedaana arag hadalna waan qayday9koobay)
Qosolkaaaaaaaa waxaaaa iiiigu wacaan qaaabka aaaaaaaan ahayeeeeeey.

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Anonymous

Friday, September 15, 2000 - 02:02 am
Aniga waxay ila tahay in xaalada gobolka ogaadeen ay tahay arrin wayn oo dawlad walba oo soomaali aha oo dhalata aysan ka indhaqarsan doonin,sababta oo ah waa dal inaga maqan annaga oo dhan,tan kale soomaali qabiil kasta leh baa dagta meesha ee ogaadeen kaliya ma dago.
tan kale ninka ogaadenya taariikhdeeda aan aqoon waxay ila tahay inuusan ka hadlin saa maba yaqaanee,ninkii u dhashayna waxaan u sheegayaa in
halgankani yahay ku soo jireen ah oo cidkasta oo isku dayda aynan joojin karin,illaa dadka u dhashay waddankaas ay aaya ka talinteeda gaadho.
dhallinyarada soomalida ah ee wax fahamtay marka laga saaro inta jiran ee qabiilka uu wadnaha gooyay in ay hiil iyo hooba ay lagarab is taagaan
walaalahooda u halgamaya dalkaas ogaadeenaya.
Gaal kufri ah ninka soomaali ah oo garabsiinaya waxaan dhihilahaa in aad dib isugu noqoto ama aad is waaniso oo aad garato in aadan waxba ka qaadaynin halgankaas socda.

Allaahu Akbar
OGAADEENYA HA XOROWDO

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ing_mo

Friday, September 15, 2000 - 02:45 am
Ku socoto dhammaantiin,
Waryaada wax ma idin sheegaa!
Somali galbeed ma dooneyno in ay xorrowdo!!! sababtu waa maxey? waxaan rabnaa haddaan Somali nahey in aan Ethiopia u dhexgalno si toos ah. ha nagu qaadato waqti walba, laakiin aakhirkii waxaa rabnaa in aan la wareegno Ethiopia oo dhan. Waayoo waddankan loo yaqaan Ethiopia iyo Somalia wuxuuu ahaan jirey waddan isku mid ah. Ha u qaadanina in aan Ethopia iney na gumeysato aan raali ka ahey. Mele zanawi qaladkan uu galey ka naqosho ma laha! waxaan qabsaneynaa Ethiopia oo dhan si siyaasadnimo ah. waqti walba hanagu qaadato. That is all we want. Dhul xor ah weynu heysanna ee ku dadaala sidii aad uga aargoosan laheydeen Ethiopia oo 50 sano idin xukumeysey ama idin gumeysaneysey.
Haddii xornnimo aad Ethiopia ka qaadataan waad is liiddeen ee ogaada. hhana oggolaanina in aad tihiin ethnic group.

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ALI FAARAH

Friday, September 15, 2000 - 01:39 pm
SOMAALIYA DAD BADAN AYAA KU NAAFOOBAY DAGAALADII SOKEEYE EE KA DHACAY WAXAANA LAGU QIYAASAA TIRADOODA ILAA HAL MILYAN AYAGA AYAA DHIBAATO NOOGU FILAN OO AAN CIIDAN AAN U HAYN+DOQONTII OGAADEEN ALAW SAHAL AMUURAHA.

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Koshin

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 11:52 am
Xooslaaye please do not post copy righted document it is agains the law. If you have anything to say do so in your rightfull words. I will not respond to copyrighted article.

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QOSLAAYE

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:49 pm
this is the real qoslaaye, and i would never claim that, i would write such a broken,filthy, backwarded uncomprehendable english. therefore, don't ever claim some one you are not sisy. i, the real QOSLAAYE would never speak without telling the specificity of the story, thus, stop, i will have to reveal you, don,t let me start taking sides, you son of whore.

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