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SHOULD THE HARTI WAQOOYE BE IN PUNTLAND OR SOMALILAND????

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): RA'YIGA DADWEYNAHA - Your Opinion: Somalia: Archive (Before Sept. 29, 2000): SHOULD THE HARTI WAQOOYE BE IN PUNTLAND OR SOMALILAND????
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Anonymous

Tuesday, September 19, 2000 - 08:39 am
I BELIVE THE WARSENGELY AND DOLBAHANTE CLAN SHOULD NO BE PART OF ANY OF THE TWO REGIONAL REAGEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE USED AS PORN FOR THE NEW FEDERAL SOMALIA. HOWEVER THEY SHOULD CREATE THEY OWN REGIONAL ADMINSTRATION.

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Xoogsade

Tuesday, September 19, 2000 - 02:51 pm
We gonna be used as PORN? Man that is some disturbing news. How are they gonna do this? What kinda PORN exactly online, videos? What do they have in mind. I tell ya things are getting sick in Somalia...

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RealDeaL

Tuesday, September 19, 2000 - 03:23 pm
xoogsaselol Tell us how much you know about PORN lol.we know anonymous is well advanced into degree status.lololo

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Anonymous

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 01:09 am
SOMALILAND

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Nalaye

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 01:14 am
I agree thoroughly, we should stablish our own admin, Dhulbahante tried that in 1994 but they failed due to the greedyness of Fagare and Qeybe.

I am going back to Sool,Sanaag,South Togdgeer and North of Nugaal soon, and i shall sort this out.

Nalye

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Beendhutiye

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 01:23 am
Annoymous ingiriiska maba taqaanid waa maxay "Porno" ma waxaad ka waday "pawn" mise wax kale

nabadey

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GEESI

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 04:44 am
DHULBAHANTE IYO WARSANGALI WAXAA U HA BOON AMA LA GUDBOON INY KA MID AHAADAAN SOMALILAND,SABABTOO AH PUNTLAND WAXBA UMA HAYSO,TAA WXA KUU CADAYNAYA SIDII AY UGU QADEEN AMA LOO XAQIRAY SHIRKII CARTA KA DHACAY OO LAGU SIIYAY IN KA YAR 8 KURSI MARKA LA IS KU DARO.DHINACA KALENA SOMALILAND WAXAY SII SAY INKABADAN 30 KURSI MARKA LA ISKU DARO DHULBAHANTE IYO WARSANGELI,WELIB WAXAA LOO OGOLYAHAY IN LA SIIYO KURAAS KALE OO BADAN HADDII EEBE YDHAAHDO MARKA AY MEESHU ISKU DUBADHACDO.
PLEASE WAXAAD II SHEEGTAA KUWEE BAA IDIIN FIICAN MA KUWA WAX IDIIN OGOL MISE KUWA AAD WADA DHALATEEN EE QAATAY 22 KURSI.
PS.YAAN LA CAYTAMIN EE HA LOO DOODO SI CILMYAYSAN,ADIGA OO AAN CAYTAMIN FIKRADAADA DHIIBO.

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Real Las-anod

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 06:13 am
Mr.Geesi runtaad sheegtay, Somalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa oodi ab ka dhow.
tusaale hadaan kuu soo qabto kolkii ingriiskii jebiyey xoogii Dhulbahante{Daraawiishtii}intii ka hadhay qaar waxay ugaleen ••••• qaarna Majeerteen kolkaa Waxaa badbaadey oo ah inta nool maanta waa intii ugashay Waqooyi, intii ugashay Majeerteena waa ay laayeen kolkaa la soco taariikhda.

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Jidali

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 07:33 am
Real lasanod= Geesi.

Geesi: Shirka Carta DHulbahante wuxuu kuheley ugu danbeyntii 11 nin iyo hal naag. Marka waa inaad saas ula socoto, tan kale, idoor kuwa lajoogo ninman imaan kara Sool,Sanaag,South Togdheer and North of Nugaal ma ey aha ee saas ula soco. Waxey lamidka yihiin nimankiina idoor ee ina Ceydiid kuraasta udoontey sida C/raman tuur, Gen Jaamacyare iyo raga lamid ka ah.

Marka Adeer Idooooooor Ilaahey wax noogu madaro.

Real laascaanod: oodaan aad kahgadleysid waa been been dhashey, Dhulbahantaha intiisa badan waxey wada degaan Ogaadeen iyo Majeerteen: Sida Ree Hagar, Cali Geri, Qayaad, Baharsame, Ugaasyo, Nuur Axmed, Waceys Cabdulle, Cumar Wacey, iyo wixii lahal maala.

Marka ader oodaan aad sheegeysid waa mid aaney wax ka jirin. idoorka waxey wada degaan Nalaye Axmed, Jaamac siyaadka "qaar kamid ah", Barkad, Waceys aadan iyo wixii lahal maala.

Marka adeer wax ha isku qaldin, beenta jooji aad lawareegeysid, adiga iyo geesi "isku sheeg" isku nin ama naag ayaad tihiin.


Ergavo

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Real Lasa-nod

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 09:23 am
Mr:Jiidali kula yaabi maayo sababtoo ah waxaad ka mid tahay sadexda qolo ee la yiraahdo ilma nebi xaasid ee cidna aan wax u ogolayn,kuwaasoo kala ah 1-habaryoonista ceergaabo.2-dhulbahantaha ceergaabo.3-habarjeclada ceergaabo.Sick.....ass

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Anonymous

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:36 am
the harti woqooye should be in puntland since they share ancestry with puntlanders

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Jamac

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 11:44 am
Xoogsade

LOL LOL LOL you had a funny comment LOLLOL things are getting crazyy LOL LO!!!!

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amina

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 12:27 pm
T:xoogsade
Nin ragaa tahay inaaderkay alow dhulos yaa saas kawada dhiga nagana qabta kuwa calooshod u shaqaystaysha.Inaader geesi iyo real las-onod waa idoor ee hala wadin hadalka inay dhulos isku diraan bay rabaane.

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AMINA

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 12:29 pm
sorry i mean NALAYE

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AMINA

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 12:36 pm
WARYAA DHULOS MAGACINAA KU WAREERAY EE WAA SIDAN
NALAYE, JIIDALI HALKAAS HALAGANKA KA WADA.WALIGAYO DAROODA BAAN AHAANAYNAA ANAGOO KALA QAAD QAADIN AMA OGADEN MAJERTEN WARSANGALI MAREEXAN LAYLKASE CARAB SALAX IYO AWRTABLE.SIDAY ILMAADERADAY SHEEGENA ANAGU MAJEERTEN IYO WARSANGALI OGADEN BA WAAN ISLA DEGNAA WAANA WADA DHALANAY.

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Monday, September 25, 2000 - 01:16 pm
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Xirsi Nuur

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 05:47 pm
AAMINA
Allaylehe in aad walasaqo tahay.
Intii ku wastay kelya ayaad magacooda taqaanna sow ma'aha ma intaasaa daaroo.
waa run dhillo ninkii dhabay taqaan.
aaway geri Koombe,dashiishe,bartire,absguul.
yabarre,wetteen,gelimays,iwm.

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MJ

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:36 pm
to:xirsi nuur

nacasyahow qabiilku maskaxda kagu buuxsamey ee...leave the lady alone!

maxaad la caytamasaa?maxay gabadhu kuku sameysay
fikradeeda ayey dhiibataye!


MJ.........Miami,FL

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SAGAL

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 03:31 pm
Dhulbahante iska aamusa idinka H/Jeclo ayaa iska
kiin leh oo aad adoon u tihiin meela uma bixi kartaan
oo xamar iyo afweyne dambe oo hub idiin soo siinayaa
ma jiro way dhamaatay taasi.Waxa dad ismoodeen intii
afweyne idiin sameeyey dhulka ee uu idin yidhi sool
iyo sanaag ayaa leedihiin taasina waa mid aan waxba
ka jirin ee riyada iska dhaafa oo dadka idin leh edeb
iyo ixtiraam kula jooga hadii kale shaqo ayaa laydinka
qabanayaa. Somaliland sanka ayaa idiin daloola in aad
joogtaan xagaydin qaban xamarna hawiyahii hore idiin
edeb baray ayaa idinkaga horeeya Somalilandna hadii
aad is waashaan afweyne dambe ma joogo ee waa laydin
ma dhin.

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Sahal

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 11:12 pm
Geesi-isku sheeg you're full of ••••!!!! Alla khiyaano badanaa War maxaa iska galay Carta iyo Puntland. Shirkii carta wuxuu ka dhexeeyey Soomaali wayn oo dhan ee Puntland ma iyadaa shaqo ku lahayd? Kuraasta dhulos carta ku heleen iyo miday S/land ku heleen maxaad isku barbardhigaysaa. S/land markii uu madax ka noqdo nin aan Isaaq ahayn ayaan wada hadlaynaa. Runtii S/land isaaqu ayagaa madaxwaynihii ah (president) qabiilada kalena first lady ayey rabaan inay noqdaan. Arintaasi waxay lamid tahay oo aan xasuustaa kolka maraykanku ku andacoodo inay dumarka xaqooda siiyaan (unlike moslems) Isla markaana Shacabkooda 3 meelood laba meelood ay dumar yihiin maxaa loo arki waayey madaxwayne dhadig ah. It may never happen. So is the leadership in Somali land other than Isaaq ppl. I hope you see the light.

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H/Y

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 12:15 am
TO:SAHAL

LET ME INLIGHTING YOU SON
..IT WAS ISSAQAS WHO FOUGHT AGAINST SYAAD BARE NOT DHULBAHANTE AND WARSANGALII OR ANY1 ELSE IN SOMALILAND FOR THAT MATTER,THEY WERE ABUSED BY OTHER SOMALIS FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THEY WERE ISSAQS.
OTHERS WHO SHARED THIS COUNTRY CALLED SOMALILAND DIDN'T LIFT A DAMN FINGER TO RESIST OR PROTEST WHEN SIYAAD BARE WAS BOMBING WAAQOOYII(SOMALILAND),SOME OF THEM SO-CALLED NEW-SOMALILNDERS..WENT FURTHER AND KILLED ISSAQ CIVILIANS,RAPED WOMEN,STOLE AND DESTROYED THE HOUSES OF THEIR NEGHBOURS WHY?????BECAUSE THEY'RE ISSAQS!!!!!!!!
SNM WAS CREATED AND FUNDED SINGLE-HANDEDLY BY ISSAQS..EVERY1 LAUGHED AT THEM IN THE BEGINING SAYING THEY WON'T LAST VERY LONG INFRONT OF SIYAAD'S WELL EQUIPED WELL TRAINED RUTHLESS ARMY..
THANKS TO ALLAH AND THE HERIOSM OF THOSE TRUE SNM HEROS SUCH AS;
1-INA KOOSAAR(ILLAHAAY HA OO NAXAREESTO)...H/YOONIS
2-MUJAAHID LIXLE(ILLAHAAY HA OO NAXAREESTO)..H/YOONIS
3-XASAN KAYED(ILLAHAAY HA OO NAXAREESTO)...H/YOONIS

SNM WON THE WAR AND RECLAIMED THEIR OWN COUNTRY .THEY COULD HAVE KILLED DESTROYED AND LOOTED LIKE THEIR EX-NEGHBOURS BUT THEY PREFERED TO BE HUMANS.AND FORGIVE.
..{IN THE ARENA OF HUMAN LIFE THE HONORS AND REWARDS FALL TO THOSE WHO SHOW THEIR QUALITIES IN ACTION}.AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT SNM-MEN DID WHEN THEY ENTERED BURCO,HARGAYSA,BARBARA AND CEERGABO
THEY FORGIVED THEIR OLD ENEMY AND PUT THE PSAT BEHIND THEM.

..FORGIVE YOUR ENEMIES IT WILL DRIVE THEM CRAZY.

FOR ALL THESE ABOVE REASONS AND MORE ISSAQS DESERVE TO LEAD SOMALILAND OR SOMALIA IF NEED TO BE.

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Sahal

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:53 pm
H/Y your point is well taken again. But this a whole different topic. As you abviously know that we were discussing about which side is good for harti pple in the north. A- Is it puntland B- Or S/land C- Or greater Somalia for that matter. But now you prove my point. And that point is that no matter how hard they try to be part of Somaliland that they will never get a fair shake. My friend your mind is so narrowed that you can even get pass H/Y. Why am i getting that you're full of yourself. Your nick name is your subclan. And the mujahidiin you mentioned are habar yonis. Which rises another question: If you don't even recognise other Isaaq's how will you recognize Gudabiirsay, Dhulos, Warsangali and Isse. And why do they have to be part of a place that don't have an equal status.

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H/Y

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:44 am
Mr:SAHAL

U SEEM LIKE A SMART DEBATER(AND I LIKE THAT IN A MAN)OUR PROBLEM US SOMALIS IS THAT WE LACK RESPECTFUL NON-INSULTIVE DEBATES.

SECONDLY WE IN SOMALILAND ARE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYERS,ISSAQ AND NON-ISSAQS.

I'M PROUD OF MY PEOPLE AND THEIR ACHIEVEMENT(DON'T GET ME WRONG), AND WE ALSO NEED A LITTLE BREAK DON'T WE!?WE'VE SUFFERED UNDER THE OLD SOMALI GOVERNMENT FOR JUST BEING ISSAQS SO MANY PEOPLE DIED;WHY!!!!!!!???????
AND WE WE RECLAIMED OUR LAND (SNM DID)WE DIDN'T KILL,RAPE OR STEEL LIKE THEM, WE ACTUALLY INVOLVED OUR FORMER ENEMIES IN THE SOMALILAND POLITICS AND THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS{WHERE ELSE IN SOMALIA OR AFRICA DOES A WINNING GROUP FORGIVE AND OPEN A NEW PAGE FOR THEIR ENEMIES WITHOUT REVENGE???????????????}

I WONDER JUST WONDER WHY DO OTHER SOMALIS HATE ISSAQS!!!!!!!?????.EVERYWHERE ON THIS FORUM PEOPLE BAD-MOUTH ISSAQ NAME FOR NO REASON,BRING ME A SOMALI-CLAN WHO IS BEING ABUSED BY ISSAQS?!

DHULBAHANTE,GUD,WARSANGALII HAVE THEIR OWN MIND TO MAKE-UP.

PEACE+LOVE

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Sahal

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:19 pm
H/Y i appretiated your comments. To be honest with you i know where you coming from. And i can respect the path you took. I believe nobody and i mean nobody can force any one against his own will. If you choose to separate...you have my blessing. Having said that i also believe that you need the rest of Somalia as much as they need you. And believe me if anybody suffer bad-mouthing on the net is MJ. Then i can say Issaq's comes seccond. And that's my humble oppinion. Let's see if anybody thinks otherwise. Take care.

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AHMED

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 08:58 am
I BELIEVE THE REASON WHY MAJEERTEN AND ISAAQ ARE THE MOST INSULTED AND DEGRADED QABILS ON THE NET IS BECAUSE THESE TWO CLANS HAVE MANAGED TO CREATE INFRASTRUCTURE, LOCAL INSTITUTIONS AND RELATIVE PEACE & STABILITY IN THEIR REGIONS OR SPHERES OF INFLUENCE. THEY HAVE MANAGED TO PROSPER AND DEVELOP INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT ANY OUTSIDE ASSISTANCE WHILE THE SOMALI'S IN THE SOUTH HAVE FOR THE MOST PART REMAINED ECONOMICALLY WEAK, SOCIALLY HOPELESS AND POLITICALLY STAGNANT, PARALYZED BY CLAN ANIMOSITY, MAURAUDING MILITIAS AND DESPERATE POVERTY. PEOPLE FROM SOMALILAND AND PUNTLAND SHOULD NOT LET THIS BAD DIALOGUE HINDER THEIR PROGRESS AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE PROUD OF THEIR ACHEIVEMENTS BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY SHOULD BE CAREFUL NOT TO DISRESPECT THEIR SOUTHERN BRETHREN FOR IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS SOMALI'S TO EDUCATE OUR BROTHERS FROM THE SOUTH AND ALLEVIATE THEIR GRIEVANCES. IF SOMALI'S IN THE NORTHERN REGIONS DECIDE TO SEPARATE AND CREATE THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT STATES THEN I BELIEVE ITS THEIR RIGHT TO DETERMINE THEIR OWN DESTINY BUT IT SHOULD BE DONE DEMOCRATICALLY, WITHOUT ANY FORCE OR COERCION ON MINORITY CLANS. THE MAIN THING THAT DISTINGUISHES THE NORTHERN REGIONS FROM THE SOUTH IS COEXISTENCE. PEOPLE FROM SOMALILAND HAVE MIRACULOUSLY MANAGED TO RECONCILE ONCE DEVOUT ENEMIES WHILE PEOPLE FROM PUNTLAND HAVE NO NEED FOR RECONCILIATION SINCE THEY ALL MORE OR LESS SHARE THE SAME LINEAGE. AS FOR THE DHULBAHANTE AND WARSENGELI I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF THESE CLANS WISH TO REMAIN IN SOMALILAND NEVERTHELESS, I REGIONAL POLLS SHOULD BE UNDERTAKEN IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DECIDE THEIR FUTURE. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE AS SOMALI'S MUST NEVER FORGET OUR HERITAGE AND HOMOGENEITY. REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL BOUNDARIES WE WILL ALWAYS BE ONE PEOPLE, ONE HEART AND MOST IMPORTANTLY ONE SOUL.
AHMED

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Sahal

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 11:43 am
Ahmed, well done i couldn't have said it better. If warsangali and Dhulos chooses to be with S/land so be it. And i don't have problem with that But let me warn you brother; you might be able to rely on Warsangali... i don't know but Dhulos ppl behave like prostitutes. So there i don't know. History showed that Dhulos ppl are with winners who ever that may be. They are like Ladies if you know what i mean.

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XOGHAYNTA-CIGAAL

Monday, October 16, 2000 - 02:15 am
ANIGA WAXAY ILA TAHAY HADBA XILLIGA AAY JOOGAAN INAY EEGAAN FOR EXAMPLE KOLKA BARBARI CAMIRANTO EE MACAYSHAD BADANI SOO DAGTO OO XOOLO BADAN DEE LA DHOOFIYO WAA INAY SOMALILAND SHEEGTAAN WAA XILLIGA GUGA AH KOLKAAS AYUUNBAY XOOGAA DOLLAR AH LA SIINE. XILLIGA DAYRTA AH EE REER BARRIGU AMA DHABAYACO MAYDIGA DHOOFSATANA WAA INAY PUNTLAND SHEEGTAAN ALYACNI LABA DAANLEEYN

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