     Boqorradii Hawiiyeha Mudug | Tuesday, October 03, 2000 - 01:39 pm
War hadduusan diinta aqoon oo yuhuudkii jaahilka ahaa ee dhalay bakhtiyey - muxuu is mooday, G/kacyo ku soo noqo oo xammaali iska noqo, gocosadaadiina guro, habeenkiina magaalada ka bax - waad ogtahay awoowayaashaa siday u noolaayeen. Mj ayaa ku sugeysa ee ku bishaareyso in sidii hore lagu raranaayo......Xamar iyo dalkii intiisa kale ayey khasaariyeen oo mid mukhaadaraad gada, mid dowlad dhaca, mid kasta oo aan mudug joogi karinba Xamar buu yimid oo bililiqo u soo raadsaday. Diinta Islaamka ma rumeysan tihiin, mar dambe la idin raran maayee, diinta soo gala yuhuud iyo munaafuq waxaad ahaan lahaydba...wake up my slaves!!! |
| waayoarag | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 12:14 am
LITTLE GORILLA Husein ceydiiid daanyeerka yar waa stupid axmaq ah,, waxaan oran lahaa ku noqo california oo qamradaadii ku cab cab,, cungaan fadhiidka ah waa nacas axmaq ah,,, mar dhaw xafad ayaa leefi doonto,,, foolxumadaas ayuu rabaa inuu soomali ugu taliyo,
inkaar qabaha waa ninkiii biijooole cabdulaahi yusuf amaanay kuna magaabay mudane, meeshii
our presednt dr cabdulqaasim uu ku tilmaamay haraagi siyaad.. waa nin nacas ah little gorila husein ceydiid doonayana inuu isku baabiyo habargedir,, lakiiin little gorila ceydiiid ,, meeshi ii abhihiis maray ayaa u danbeeysa mar dhaw |
| gabar dagaal jecel | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 04:58 pm
TO: waayo arag
Wax aad ka ogtahay maleh waayo aragnimo ina ceydiidna magaartid waxa ceyda kaa keenayana waa qaraar kuhaya kaana haya dowlada uu yahay iyo gobanimada uu u dhashay iyo waliba isagoo idika soo baro kiciyay meelahaad daganeydeen nin asalkiisu badyahay bada lee ku dhamaanaa. Marka ceyada jooji.Carabtu waxey dhahaan kuli sheyu ajaci asaliya. hadaadan carabi aqoon raadso qof kuu turjima waayo burtinle ayaad katimid. |
| sacad | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 06:19 pm
daaroood ma habergedirtii halaajisey bey hadana fara ku fiiqayaan idinka dowlada anagaa isku heysana maxaa idinka galey, cabdiqasim iyo caydiid waa hal..........raga la eryadey ee doomaha kaga baxey dalka meel cidla ah yeesan ka booteen..........................dhulkii la qeybsey intaad qaxootiga jidheen. |
| Waayo arag | Friday, October 06, 2000 - 01:33 am
cunugan little gorilla ceydiid yare isagaa xaarka u leefa daaroodka waa ninkii cabdulaahi biijo yuusuf ugu tegay isbitaalkii uu ki jiray keenya,,
si u tuugsado,,
madaxweyne cabulqaasim waa nin •••••• xalaal ah soomaali ah dadka oo dhan ay wada jecel yihiin, marka muxuuu doonayaa cunugan gas station california ku yaal ka shaqeeyn jiray maxay tahay waxa uu ku diidayo dawladan xalaasha ee inoo dhalatay,.
xuseen fadhiiid naarta alaha ka waraabsho |
| Suuban | Friday, October 06, 2000 - 04:55 am
It is very funny, Ina Caydiid supposed to represent his beloved Father, real Somali Man. I adored Caydiid he would never have allowed his son to be "Friends" with the KILLER Cisman Caato!! Cisman Caato is responsible for the murder of the great man "Gen. Cadiid". I could Hussein be part of Caatos group. Caydiid was great man and he died bringing Somalia together and supporting the Name of Somali. True and real Somali. Whatever, Happen to his son, come of boy and belief in yourself and stand tall like your father and support the new government, your father would have.
By the way I am from north somalia and have nothing to do with the South politics if you think I am supporting my clan.
Hussein if you are real Somali and belief in Somalia get away from those who are destroying the only hope that we have and stand by the new government even if you do not belief their principle, we will help you to challenge at the next round.
Love and peace
My Allah help us to reach the right path |
| gabar dagaal jecel | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 09:07 pm
To suban
Stop right their. please ESL kaaga hakusoo faragashan wax aadan khibrad u laheyn so never ever mation osman ato if it happen don't use U'r stupid ESL. as long as U talking like this way U'll never rich U'r right path. pease after all |
| SUUBAN | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 06:42 am
Dear Gabar
I have no clue what you're on about! But let me tell you this is, what I believe and how I feel about this issue of the new Somalia. I believe that Cisman Cato is responsible for the killing of the great Gen. Caydiid the only real Somali man. I also feel Caydiid would have support the only hope that you and I have today, the hope of seeing Somalia as one and country which can take care of its people. I also know that Hussein Caydiid is young ordinary Somali man, who would never feel or behave like his great father but should do him the honour of joining the hope and the rebuilding of our Nation.
This is how I feel and I at least have the courage to share with you all but what is your belief and please share with me and other readers what you say about this issue and what you would say to Hussein Caydiid as young Somali woman. Another thing, Yes Cisman Caato is responsible for the Killing of the great leader Gen. Caydiid but luckly his legecy lives today and unfortunitely his son doesn't lead or preach what his father used to otherwise he would have never supported Mr Caato.
I am from Somaliland and we managed to get our acts together and believe me U Hawiya are our jokes of the evening, we don't understand what your problem is anyway in general. You have the Capital city in Moqdisho, the president is Hawiye and you are the biggest clan in Somalia and if you unite you can lead the rest of Somalia and its people. What is wrong with you all? Caydiid understood that but unfortunately those who failed to understand his principles destroyed his dreams too. I would like Hussein Caydiid to sit back and endorse his Great Father's legecy and belief the real Somali Nation and fight for justice and if he does that, believe me dear he will succeed and will receive warm support from the young generation who supported Caydiid and trusted him. This is me, please tell me what you stand for and if you think making a few mistakes with your writing in a foriegn language makes you stupid then, my dear you have lot to learn.
My Allah lead us to the right path.
Nabad korkiina ha'ahaato.
Suuban |
| cartan | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 10:11 am
suuban, anigu waxaan u arkaa in eey fikrad dhiibatay , laakin gabadh dagaal jecel qabiil iyo qashin iyo jahilnimo eey la wareegeysa. gabar dagal jecel hadaad aqoon iyo wax garad tahay dadka uma gafteen. suuban inta eey ka qoreyso waa ku muujisey in aay english ku meel mari karto laakiin adigu dhowr weedhood oo english ah aa kaa soo yeedhey waaxana ka muuqda in aad aad ugu liidato luqadaas. marka indhahaaga meel kale ku eeg oo suuban dhaaf , alla ha kuu gargaaro e.
mida kale, suuban, maxay tahay waxaad ceydiid ku amaanayso, muxuu suubiyey oo wanaagsan ?
dhig soomaliyeed oo uu galay mooye wax umada uu uga tagay iyo wax aan taariikh ka heyno ma leh. hadaad UNISom dagalkii muqdisho eey ka ridey ka hadleyso taasi dhacdo ceydiid hogaan u aha ma ahayn, dad shicib ah oo soomaaliyeed baa ku halaagmay ( 10000-15ooo qof) in ka badan aa lagu diley meeshaas , ceydiidna waa dhuumanayey intaas ee halyey ma noqon karo kaasi , at least that is my opinion
wasalamu calaykum |
| Salah | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 10:42 am
Suban
You call a Great Somali man To Gen. Aidid, and I think you are out of your mind.
Gen. Aidid was responsible killing thousands of somali people and destroying once beautifull Somali city Mogadishu, then how you call him a great man. I think according to Islamic religion you shared to his sins if you justified his evil actions. And If you seeking Allahs help 1st you have to ask him forgiveness, that is best the way you can reach right path.
Salah |
| Mohamed | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 11:52 am
Nairobi (UN Integrated Regional Information Network, October 6, 2000) - Mogadishu faction leader Husayn Muhammad Farah Aydid was interviewed by IRIN when he came to Kenya for talks with President Daniel arap Moi. Aydid said he had been invited by the Kenyan president to talk about the situation in Somalia, following the election in August of the interim president, Abdiqasim Salad Hasan.
Aydid, 38 years old and a former US marine, was elected to lead the Somali National Alliance (SNA) by the Habar Gedir sub-clan - part of the of Hawiye clan, which controls Mogadishu. He came to power in 1996 after his father, General Muhammad Farah Aydid, died in a factional shoot-out in the capital. Husayn Aydid did not attend the Djibouti- hosted peace initiative, which in August culminated in the election of a 225-strong transitional national assembly and the interim president, and has said he does not recognise Abdiqasim as a national president.
QUESTION: What exactly did you talk about with President Moi?
ANSWER: Throughout, since 1994, President Moi has been involved in reconciliation efforts in Somalia, after UNOSOM [United Nations Mission in Somalia] left... We regard him as a partner, and we take his advice very closely, especially since I came to power in 1996. I consult him on steps taken regarding security between our two regions... We discussed ways in which Somalia could benefit from reconstruction and reconciliation, as well as by being made a member of the East African economic grouping, and a future Somali presence in the Commonwealth... ways of cooperating strategically to help the Somali refugees to come back to Somalia now that there has been relative peace over the last four years, and reconciliation. We also discussed what action to take at this final stage, inasmuch as the Arta process did not produce results. There is still a problem...
Q: But Kenya has recognised the new government.
A: That is something you have to ask the government of Kenya - whether they did or didn't.
Q: Well, the Kenyan government has announced its recognition, and attended the inauguration. How do you feel about its position?
A: The United Nations has stated very clearly that for a government to be legally recognised it has to be in control of its territory and airspace. Somalia already has a recognised government - I mean, Somalia has already existed for over 40 years as a nation... What happened was that there was an uprising after people had suffered over 30 years of misrule... It is the policy of the struggle and the SNA, which was founded in 1992 after the removal of the regime, to have national unity, territorial integrity and political independence. This objective was initiated by the SNA, which basically has supporters throughout nine regions... We wanted reconciliation and a final central government, with everyone represented during a transitional period, so that we could eventually draft a final constitution and have a government elected through the a ballot box...
Q: You didn't go to Arta to discuss this, but instead decided to boycott the process - why?
A: We didn't boycott it. We initially welcomed the Arta process...and approved of it... but we asked to be given a chance to make recommendations on reconciliation since we were key players. We knew how the Somali problem could be solved, because we had been the leaders on the ground for the last 10 years. We were the ones who had participated or really understood the problem, or solutions, ever since UNOSOM left.
Q: There has been some confusion over your attitude to the new government. Libya reported you had signed an agreement with Abdiqasim.
A: The meeting ...was organised by the foreign ministry, minister Turayki and the great leader [Mu'ammar al-Qadhafi] over there.... We met there as group leaders. We agreed to discuss the principal points... mainly to examine differences between us and them [the participants in the Arta meeting], because they are the members of the former regime... I was representing not only the SNA but I was also basically representing and consulting with all the leaders in Puntland, as well as leaders in the Mogadishu area and throughout the country... The Arta process was not a reconciliation process, and did not resolve the differences between the various faction leaders on the ground.
Q: The Libyan government said you had signed an agreement to recognise the new government. Did they get that wrong?
A: No, no. Nothing was signed about an agreement...Abdiqasim and his group were in transit there. They came when we were also having a meeting with the leader [Al-Qadhafi]... They suggested a reconciliation. Any talks there are to be will be held in Mogadishu, or or somewhere on which all the leaders will agree. So we were just laying foundations in consultation with different IGAD [Inter- Governmental Authority on Development] and Arab League countries to provide a framework within which we can sit together and solve the problem by way of dialogue...
Q: So you are now looking forward to the new government coming to Mogadishu?
A: No, we do not recognise the government... Mogadishu is our base also, and most of the leaders are there... We will work out a framework there, within which we can sit and discuss this situation and come up with a comprehensive solution to the Somali problem in a Somali way. The [Djibouti] initiative was mismanaged and had its faults... The parliament does not represent the main factions on the ground or the main civil society on the ground.
Q: When do you expect Abdiqasim to come to Mogadishu?
A: He told me that the first step he would take would be to consult his Arta group, relay the message, and then he would come to Mogadishu. I will also consult all the leaders, and once we have a consensus he will come as soon as possible to Mogadishu...
Q: Earlier, you said you would prevent Abdiqasim from coming to Mogadishu, but now, after Libya, you expect to meet him there?
A: I never said I would prevent him. Nor did I say I would welcome him. The key is in that we will do everything possible to find a constructive way to solve the Somali problem, despite IGAD empowering this civil society initiative... We know the result was to produce members of the former regime, and members of fundamentalist groups. The main political and administrative groups on the ground were completely sidelined. There is still a problem, and as Somali leaders we have the responsibility to ensure that the 1991 process [the civil war] is not repeated.
Q: When you talk about sitting together, are you talking about all leaders - including Muhammad Ibrahim Egal of Somaliland and Abdullahi Yusuf of Puntland?
A: All - in Mogadishu, or anywhere the leaders agree to. Also, we have to decide whether we are going to have separate talks or joint talks. It all depends on the leaders and the venue, on how it evolves. These are the early stages...
Q: Abdiqasim agreed to sit in Mogadishu with all the leaders?
A: He agreed that we would meet in Mogadishu... We said we preferred Mogadishu and we agreed on that point.
Q: What position in a new government would satisfy you?
A: Really, the position is not a problem. It's the solution. There must be a comprehensive solution. The SNA point is there must be a compromise at every level because democracy requires compromise... I believe the Somalis must solve a political problem by a political solution and I do not believe that any military solution will solve our problems.
Q: But it seems that the Somali people are now desperate for a real leader. Who do you think that leader should be?
A: The leader should be any leader who enjoys confidence, has worked and represented the people and was in the struggle. [He must] demonstrate he can deliver unity, and national aspirations and dreams, which are to have a democracy, and a complete change from the misrule of the former governments. This is where we stand. We have been elected as the leader of the SNA and the leader of a larger alliance - the SNA and affiliated groups...
Q: What do you think you have contributed to Somalia in the last few years?
A: As the SNA leader, I have contributed reconciliation between warring factions in Mogadishu. The SNA was very instrumental in bringing leaders together... [We also] removed the 'green line' established in 1991... We overcame that civil war and reconciled all the factions... We also succeeded in Kismayo, bringing complete peace up to the Kenyan border... I was very instrumental in the Cairo agreement and the Sodere group of 26 factions in Addis Ababa, and in bringing together exiled factions based in Addis Ababa.....
Q: But you are talking about agreements that have demonstrably failed. A: No. I cannot say they failed. Somalia was on the brink of war... We prevented that through negotiation and dialogue... We rebuilt our country.
Q: Just to make it clear what it is you feel: is it to get rid of this unrepresentative government, or to talk to it?
A: We believe in talking. If that process can bring something to the Somali peace and reconciliation it is a plus for us. Any good thing coming from the Arta process we will take. Anything that we do not see will contribute to peace, reconciliation and democracy on the ground which will not be in our national interest [we will reject]... And on the ground we have the resources, when it comes to security... The SNA controls most airports and ports, as well as most of the infrastructure in the capital. We are ready to constructively build for the sake of our unity of our nation. After all, we are Somalis, and we have to solve our problems. |
| Suban | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 01:22 pm
Ku Gabar dagaal jecel iyo Sahal,
Fadlan ogaada in Suban iyo Suuban ee labo qof kale yihiin.
My opinion of Caydiid iyo xulaafidiisa:
Mujriimiin anaan aqoon macnaha uu Qaran leyahay. |
| Suuban | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 03:25 pm
Waar heedhaha Soomali Caydiid leed haysataane bal isagii dhimaye dadyow maa tashataan. Caydiid waxa uu ahaaba ka Shub allana ha u Naxariisto, waxii uu galabsadayna waa mid uu Allahiis la hor tagayo midkeena loo ciqaabimaayo danbigii uu galay. Besides I just stated my opinion, laakiin sheekadu waxa ay joogtaa Ina Caydiid iyo waxa uu rumaysan yahay. Waxa kala oo ayjoogtaa Hawiye from all people waxa uu isu hayso. Run ahaan anagu waxa aan u aragna Hawaiye, waalaa habar gidir, walaa abgaal kuli waa Walawayn! maantana waxa sheekadii maraysaa waar Madax wayne nimo ayaa laydin seeyay, Caasimadiina waa qaadataan, soomalina idinka ayaa u badan, bal nimanyow taliya oo hogaamiya bulshada oo xaasidaka dhexdiina yaal joojiya haddii aad iska Disheen HALYAYGIINII Gen. Caydiid. Run ahaan kama uu dhiman kaliya Hawiye ee Soomaali nin wax garanayaa waa ogyahay in uu ka dhintay Soomaali wayn.
Ninka wanaagsan ee isu aalay waxa uu qabtay Caydiid, saaxiib, waxa aa ku farax sanay wax garadkaaga iyo sida aad u ixtiraamtay opinionkayga. Waxa aan tixraacay ama aan research ku sameeyay Cadiid haddaldiisee sida cajaladaha laga duubay intii uu noolaa iyo qudbadaha laga soo wariyay (interview). Aniga fikradihiisa soomaali nimo waa ay i cajabiyeen ee bal hada adna fiirso oo ila soo xiriirsii in aad igu raacdo. Tan aad leedahay Caydiid waa dhuumanayay ee bulshada Soomaliyeed ayaa ku naf wayday I agreed with you but never the less Caydiid dagaal kasta horta ayuuka gali jiray taasna waxa cadaynasa dilistii uu Cisman Caato ku dilay sababla aan ta. Bal ii soo sheeg ninka kale ee isga la midka ahaa ama ahaa hogaamiye kooxeed (warlord) oo ku dhintay dagaaladii ama isagoo u dagaalamaya wixii uu rumaysnaa. Walaa caato walaa Cali Mahdi they all survive to benefit what they denied the poor Somali people and that is peace and estibility. By the way I am Suuban not Suubane not Suban, young somali woman who appreciate and care for being Somali/lander
Alla hana waafajiyo dariiqa hagaagsan. |
