     Malcolm | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 12:57 am
What the hell is wrong with the somalians living in America, Canada, England and Australia. they act exactly like the African Americans who have accomplished only the art of killing in their centuries of freedom. Instead of being just like them why dont you learn from their mistakes, and try getting a job and education. (THIS IS NOT ALL SOMALIANS JUST SOME)
C-ya |
| Maa Heee | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 06:57 am
MALCOM I COULD'NT AGREE MORE!!
BUT NOT ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE KILLERS ALSO.
MY GIRLFRIEND IS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, HER PARENTS AND OLDER BROTHER ARE THE HARDEST WORKING PPL YOU WILL EVER SEE IN YOUR LIFETIME.
NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT BUT A LOT OF OUR PPL HAVE LOST THEIR WAY--
NOWADAYS PATHETIC LIFE STYLE IS THE NORM FOR OUR PPL IN THE WEST ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM UK BECAUSE THATS WHERE AM AT!! |
| Amadeou | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 08:16 am
Folks,
I third this motion but don't you think those kids need role model. Who is the role model anyway?. Some of them even ashamed to be somali since it is somalia who turn them down. Nothing to be proud of, no one to look for inspiration, no role model what soever.then what do you expect from them?.
Amadeou |
| Rear-end | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 08:37 am
Maa Hee...i don't mean to divert the coarse of topic but how do yu go out with an african american..i can't stand da smell n da wigs on their heads....couldn't find a somali bitch?
by da way my apology in advance if yu feel offended
back to the topic...malcolm...i think da problem is da way we up bring our children..somali parents in general don't take da time to speak n befreind their kids....i personally believe if a kid has close relationships with their parent...their chances of messing up n seeking acceptance in other cultures decreases considerably. |
| reality check | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 09:14 am
malcoml....u mean as malcom x???
isn't he the one that used violence when campaigning for civil rights???
the one that believed violence was the way to get our voices heard???
he may have been a muslim but still...so dear bro...u need to practice what u preach... |
| Maa Heee | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 11:04 am
Reality check good observation.
Rear-end this one is very good looking and she eats the BARIIS with her hands, she also knows respect and how to love her man. I dont mean to be annoying but plzz stick to the subject.
Amdeou role models don't nessecirly have to be somali, as long as they are individuals who can achieved the highest possible position in their field. |
| amadeou. | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 05:17 pm
reality check,
You seem too ignorant what malcolm X stands for. You fail to make your own interpertation. With all respect sir, you seem that you bouth into white elite's idea and balck Uncle Toms propaganada. Please read the history of Malcom X and his great speeches. Malcolm X was nothing but true realistic, chrismatic and progmatic leader not just day dreamer Muther Luther king jr. You seem comlpletely ignorant about malcolm x.
Rear End.
Please brother, i am DOWN ON KNEES, don't offend hard-working and man-loving black women. I swear they are real women lacking real men. they may not mostly beautifull like somali women. but believe me they real women and root African women. Friend of mine married to one Afro-Canadian nurse. I swear if saw her how loving women she is, you would have admired her. Even this friend of mine is not good husband. yet they make good family.Just date one black girl and you will see the difference between somali women and afro-americans.
Maa hee,
i don't get it at all. are you saying role models should be necesarily somali?. then what is the point of the whole topic?. why you are refusing kids to follow dead nigazzes?. i thought we are talking about somalism here and somali kids pretending others.if that wasn't the case, then i was wrong. i was lost. And i am sorry to waste your time. amadeou. |
| Rear-end | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:43 pm
Amedeou..iam not a bro..iam a somali sis...thankx for da vote of confidence for somali women..i hope yu don't get married to one. |
| reality check | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 04:22 am
Amadeou....i'm a sis too...i respect both Martin Luther King and Malcom X...but there are certain ways to achieve things, when you want something done and a person uses violence...others will respond in the same way, trust me I have studied both men...and I know enough about both men so here is a summary about Malcoml X
Malcom X was a man who came from a difficult childhood, his mother was half black and half white, her mother was raped by her father, while his father was black. His father ( Earl Little a Baptist preacher) used to favour him out of all his brothers (3) and sisters (2) because he he had the lightest skin in his family. The KKK's threaten the Little family to move out of their house while Lousie Little was pregant with Malcoml, the moved to Michigan. There troubles did not stop there soon his mother was sent to a mental hospital by the white authorities.
He was in school until the 8th grade living with different families and when his teacher stop him from becoming a lawyer, he moved in with his sister (Boston). During his time there Malcoml became a husler, he had a white girlfriend, took drugs.
Later when he moved to New York, he worked as a pimp, drug dealer and also was a robber. A year later he was sentenced to 7 yrs ion prison for robbery. In prison Malcom became Malcolm became a follower of Elijah Muhammad, the leader of a small black cult, the "Nation of Islam". His brothers urged him to join the cult and while in prison he did. He improved his knowledge by reading an encyclopedia and the Quran. He followed the moral codes of Islam and the dietry rules....to cut a long story short he had enormous influence among black youth and in progressive intellectual circles. He travelled widely in Europe and Africa and established his Organisation of Afro-American Unity. He saw the black American struggle partly as a segment of the efforts of third world nations for human rights.
In 1964, Malcolm X went on his pilgrimage to Mecca, which is obligatory for orthodox Muslims, and there he began to consider changing his views towards integration. In Mecca, he saw that it was possible for black and white people to live in brotherhood, of which he was deeply touched. After the pilgrimage he adopted the name El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz.
The angry members of the Nation of Islam began to threaten to kill him. His home in Queens, New York, which Malcolm X shared with his wife and his six children was firebombed in early February 1965. When Malcolm X was delivering a speech in the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem on February 21, 1965, he was shot down by Black Muslims.
Malcom X was a great man, I'm not dening that, but I'm justing saying that he used violent methods and protests while King used peaceful methods and protest...something which I admire and respect about him, but Malcoml started using peaceful methods but then resorted to violence, and that's where I think he made his mistake.
And by the picking the name Malcoml, as the guy who started this topic did, and then saying how people are using violence etc...he is doing exactlly what he is complaining about...using someone who practiced violence as his role model. So dear brother Malcoml...you should practice what you preach. |
| amadeou | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 08:15 am
realit check,
While i give the credit of reading malcolm x's biography, as freelance somali historian, I give you 0% when it comes independent thinking and creativities. With all respect madam, you fell into white elite's trap. And you fail to differenciate the reality from day dreaming. Please don't ever believe what i say but just do me a favor. will you madam?. My favor is just simple. I need you to understand how the world's politics is played. white elites claim that idealist school of thought are real leaders( non violent) yet they use force in every corner of the world. you have to understand white culture is macho culture with no mercy at all. "might is right" is their slogan. they want to disarm the world yet they invent new arms everyday. they colonise the third world and preach to this third world's poor people to love their enemy--turn the other cheeck. they kill people innocent people yet teach them to take revenge is a sin and God and jesus don't like that. And anyone who raise voice will be labeled "violent".
So, yes, in the eyes of white murders, malcomx was violent man because he believed "don't start violent but if they kick you, kick back".And if that made less than the great day dreamer, Murther luther King, then rest assured madam,you and i will never-ever see things eye-to-eye. I don't believe that mother-thresea-politics and idealist school of thought have any position in this macho whiteman's culture. And that is what murthur luther King stood for. He was great when we are talking about heavens and word of God. but he was day dreamer when it comes reality. and now if you will excuse me madam, i hav "cambuulo" on the fire which is about to burn out.later.
amadeou |
| reality check | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 09:06 am
Dear Amadeou
As a typical Somali, your mind is clouded by predijism. But as a historian you should know that people's opinions differ, but unfortunately you fail to. I have respect for both MalcolmX AND Martin Luther King. Malcolm X because after all he was dealt in life he rose fought for his people and on top of that he became a muslim.
I admire Martin Luther King because even though people used violence against him, he still carried on with his peaceful protest and never gave up, he was a very persistant man and he never stop trying....dear brother...you have to give credit to where it is deserved.
I do not agree with the Americans, who want other countries ( Korea, Pakistan etc) to give up their necleur weapons, but do not want to do the same thing themselves, that is what is called hypocrisy. Dear brother, there is always two sides to every story...and another thing, never judge a book by it's cover. |
| Amadeou | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 12:57 pm
reality check,
so basically you are telling me a coward who can't fight back and preached "love your enemy. and if you were slaped on one cheek, turn the other cheeck" is a person suppose to be admired of nothing but his cowardice?. Look if you are not arguing for the sake of damn arguement, then you gotta be knowing there are two school of thoughts when it comes westren politics. One being Realistic school of thought. in other words conservatives.This school believe war is human nature. it is something that can't be elimnated as long as there is human being is here on the planet earth.they believe "might is right".One the other hand, there is idealist school of thought who believe that war is not natural. it is temporary stage.human can live side by side. they argue all human being reason. and peace can be reached through non-violent means.
However, in this world and all human history , what we have is realistic school of thought. And we are yet to see what idealist like murther luhter king jr preached--the ideal world. maybe we will see this dreams hereafter.I believe it is theory written in the text books and brain washed minorities and poor third world student and propogated in the Church to disarm global freedom fighters.
So please understand being a man came from third world which his native continent is raped, robbed and exploited by same people who preach "forgive your enemy"-Europeans, i can never ever be idealsit. i am belong to realistics. i do believe might is right. I can't accept westren world to put me in cage economically and metually enslaves me .I can't bought their hypocristy of "non violent is good". it is unacceptabe to me to wave the flag of mother thresa politics. i am victim and i need to get my rights back. So are you. But, i can understand if you belong to idealist school of thought where cowards are reigned and called "great leaders". But rest assured madam, you and i live two different world. I can understand you but not necesarily agreeing with e your mother-theresa politics.
My conclusion, we agree to disagree. and i am not by any means enforcing you to agree with me 0.001%. And tell you what? we shouldn't be compromising to agree each other. if you believe malcolm x was great. it is all good but i am not trading off by saying "yeah madam muther luther king was great too" just to make you happy.I don't care if you don't sleep two days and nights in a row. and equally i don't care if you loved malcolm x all of your heart. in fact, to me JR was big coward who can't defend his beaten mother and sisters. And lastly i am asking you doing me a favor. will you madam?. Please don't offend me and my people by calling "typical somali". you seem accussing me and my people "clouded with prejuiced". i have no any intention to offend you nor to call you names.
Amadeou |
| Ice-Man | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 01:14 pm
I am not your role model By charles Barkley
and I agree with him very much , Better parenting |
| Xoogsade | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 06:15 pm
Malcolm was an excellent leader and a man of immense intelligence. He eventually saw through the malevolent creed of Elijah Muhammad and adopted the true orthodox Islamic faith, renounced violence and preached the gospel of love. That was too much for the Nation of Islam thugs like Farakhan(He pretty more or less admitted that he killed Malcolm in one interview). |
| reality check | Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 05:04 am
Amadeou
Yes so we agree to disagree. I'm sorry if me calling you a typical Somali offended you, as it was not in my intetions to do so. However dear brother,let me ask you a question...how on earth do you do you expect peace to be reached using violent means? Someone uses violences and another person retailates using the same method, many innocent people will die and for what??? Nothing will be resolved using violence. If you want something...killing others, or fighting is not the way to go about it is it?
I totally agree with "humans can not live side by side without war" because that is reality, as most do not share the same belief and war is then inevitable. Living in a world with total peace is a dream...but who said dreams do not become reality...many things start of with dreams and many people accomplish them.
But anyway, you are entiled to your opinion if you believe King wasn't a great man too bad but to me he was cause he never gave up.
Xoogsade...your rigth Malcolm X was a great man. |
