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     | Tuesday, November 14, 2000 - 10:58 pm An interesting discovery .... Extremely interesting statistical data........ Word Meaning Mentioned in the Quran (No. of Times) Al-Dunya This world 115 Al-Akhira The hereafter 115 Al-Mala'ikah Angels 88 Al-Shayateen Satan 88 Al-Hayat Life 145 Al-Maout Death 145 Al-Rajul Man 24 Al-Mar'ha Women 24 Al-Shahr Month 12 Al-Yahom Day 365 Al-bahar Sea 32 Al-bar Land 13 If we add up the total words of both "sea" and "land" we get 45. Now if we do a simple calculation: 32/45 X 100% = 71.11111111% (Sea) 13/45 X 100% = 28.88888888% (Land) Above is what we know today, the percentages of Water (Sea) and Land in the world. Yet another miracle in the Quran! The Miracles of the Quran will never end. There will never be a time where mankind can fully take in the knowledge that is in this holybook. It is a miracle to all mankind, the word of God Allah S.W.T.). There is no value that one can set to the words of the creator. It is a treasure of which guides those that want to succeed in this life and the here after.
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 08:59 am US Marine Mansha,allh..may all reaward you!
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 09:19 am THE QURAN IS SOMETHING THAT MAN WILL NEVER FULLY COMPREHEND, ALTHOUGH WE ARE TRYING. THE ABOVE SHOWS YET ANOTHER MIRACLE OF THE HOLY QURAN! SO PEOPLE TURN BACK TO YOUR LORD AND REPENT BEFORE JUDGEMENT DAY.
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 09:23 am WAIT A MINUTE............USMARINE I dont dispute that The Holly Book Quran has a collection of written Miracles and a source of Superior knowledge for the faith of Islam.As that fact is established,let me say to you BULL SHITT LOL The Physiscs Mathmathics you give us here on the calculation of Land and sea relative sum is BS lol laughing out at you not with you lolol come up with an informed calculation next times with detailed facts aight? lol You can begin by finding the ratio of your brain cells.
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 12:14 pm BROTHERS THERE IS ALOT MORE TO BE DISCORVERD IN THE QURAN
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 12:15 pm BROTHERS THERE IS ALOT MORE TO BE DISCORVERD IN THE QURAN
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 01:43 pm TIME MAGAZINE!!!!!!!! WHAT THE HELL DID U JUST SAY?? UR EITHER REALLY POOR IN ENLISH, LAUGHING TOO MUCH OR CAN'T PUT UR SENTENCES IN THE CORRECT ORDER!! AM TRYN REALLY HARD TO UNDESTAND WHAT U JUST SAY.....PLZ SAY IT AGAIN, IF IT MAKES SENSE! The only thing i got there was when u said that those calculation were in math+physics....by what difference does it make? US MARINE got the knowlede or did his research under those disciplines and he GOT U MIRACLES...... !!!! IF ANYBODY HERE NEEDS TO FIND "The Ratio of their brains" ITS U BRO! Us Marine<<-------- keep up the good job bro! PEACE. moh_Luv!
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 04:45 pm us marine Where did you get this information from? Did you do the research your self?
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 05:26 pm from a muslim researchers, a friend of mine was one of the researchers.
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 05:33 pm moh luv. thanx bro. we get a lot like him in our community that is y we are living in outside our country. thanx for the defense though.
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 07:46 pm May I also add to this discussion The big Bang The Quraan says " Didn't the unbelievers see that the earth and the heavens were joined and we have separated them" The expansion of the Universe The Quraan says " we have created the earth and heavens with ayd (ability, power, might, Muraadka Allah) and we are expanding it" The Big crunch The collabse of the universe The quraan says "The day that we will fold the heavens like the folding of writing scroll, We will re-do everything like it was before, a promise upon us, we shall verily do it" A Muslim scientist has written that when the universe begins to shrink, time will go negative, Gravity will change direction and peolpe will come out of their graves. Allah who craeted time and space will carry humans to a different dimension and world. In that world, Allah will judge humans Those who have lived up to their covenant with Allah " Am I not your lord???) who have not made up their own gods, will live a perfect world calle Paradise Those who have not lived up to their covenant, will suffer in an unperfect world of pain and suffering. Thus there are two types of people around: Those who are free to do what they please now, who made their desires their god. Those who conform with their creators commands even if it is against their desires, and who will be free from pain and suffering in the life to come. Sounds simple, indeed, it is true.
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| | Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 01:09 am US MARINE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS. YOU ARE ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE WHO WRITE SENSIBLE THINGS IN THIS NET. OUR SOMALI COMMUNITY NEEDS PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
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| | Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 10:53 am GO ON US MARINE FINALLY SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT OUR RELIGION. ALL THE PEOPLE DO ON THIS NET IS EITHER SAY RUDE COMMENTS OR SUBJECTS WHICH ARE OF STUPID USE THANK YOU MY BROTHER PEACE OUT!!!!!!!!!!
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| | Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 10:59 am The Qura'an is a miracle, but how were these numbers determined, and by whom?
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| | Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 11:26 am Mong lava Let me get back to you after i have calculated my brain cell's ratio.
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| | Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 12:27 pm ANONY AND FARIS. THANX BROS. U GUYS GETTING PART OF THE AJIIR(GOOD DEEDS TOO) FOR JUST SUPPORTING THE MIRACLES IN OUR HOLLY BOOK. WHO EVER THAT THINK THAT MATH WAS WRONG LAST NIGHT I WENT TO THE LIBRARY AND FOUND OUT THAT MATH IS CORRECT.
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| | Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 12:52 pm subxanalah, this is amasing and a real eye opener, may allah help us all and guide us all towards the right path....inshalah may allah accept our prays and forgive our sins. amiin.
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| | Monday, November 20, 2000 - 01:22 pm US marine can you tell me exactly why are posting Qur'aanic miracles? Are you showing how much you know or is it something else. The great irony is that the person who is posting these miracles is now serving for the great Satan, the US Army. How is that for nifaaq. Another observation. this I have to say I don't beleive US marine's statistics. What is important here is, look at the first four so-called miracles all numbers are even what that implies? This might be real reasons why this was posted. If the quraan mentions man and woman in even numbers, why aren't they equal? Similarly Aakhira and Aduunka are similar since they are counted evenly. Angels and the shaytaan. I think you get the picture here. Another question,why does US marine choose to explain when the numbers are uneven and not when they are even. Someone could argue that it was posted as an statement for those who can read. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN INTERPRET THE QUR'AAN UNLESS YOU FOLLOW THE TRADITIONAL WAY:IBN KATHIR,AL-TABARI AND SO ON. personally I would like to see where US marine got that information eventhough the sources themselves, would not change anything.
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| | Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 08:34 am TIME MAGAZINE: lol@*Mong lava*......ahaaaaa....i bet u been working on ur brain rations. U came up with a different version of my nick!!.....well done bro! Case closed!! Anybody else got QURANIC miracles to share?? Plz jot dem down.....so we can all share. Peace! Moh_Luv
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| | Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 08:51 am that's is only small part of the miracles in the Qura'an... i have a book that talks about most of the miracles that have been discovered upto now. miracles about how the mountains go undeground as high as the go over the ground...how fresh water and salt water (rivers and seas) do not mix...and the embryology...and how the bottom of the seas r very dark...and the best thing about the book is that it has diagrams and evrything else...it is good for non-believers and is also good for believers it strengthens their faith in Islam. Peoples...we shouldn't be surprised at this miracles...we know it is from God and there gonna be alot of miracles about the Qura'an that are yet to be discovered. peace my muslim brothers and sisters
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| | Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 03:13 pm us marine Mashallah!!!!
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| | Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 06:26 pm US Marine, Thanks for such a great input as well as CLEAR calculation to ofcourse normal people. Time Magazin, What a moron. Can't you distinguish between what is a joke and what isn't you idiot. Did you really expect us to laugh??
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| | Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 06:47 pm Waleed no no no no no....i expected you to cry.damn it,I failed.....hihihihihihihihihi i'm a failure..hihihihihihih .I can't even make someone cry.Oh hihihihihih.
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| | Wednesday, November 22, 2000 - 06:06 am Asalaamu Caleykum The word "Mohamed" which is pronounced "M-u-x-a-mm-e-d" in arabic contains four words in arabic "m" "x" "m" "d" (when written in arabic), is mentioned in the quran only four times, once in Ali-cimraan, once in Al-Axzaab, once in Al-fatxi, and once in suratul-Muxammed. You can see it's amazing thing only four letters and four times in the quran. On the other hand, the arabic alphabetic letters are 28 letters and the quran mentioned Sujuudu-Tilaawah half of that number, 14 places are for sujuudu tilaawah and one is for sujuudu-Shukri. There are a lot more to discover because the knowledge of mankind is limited as said in the quran. To: Durgal, I think I got your point. Men and women are indeed equal according to the law of Allah. Indeed Allah will judge everyone by their TAQWA, no women will ever be turned down because of her sex..........SUBXAANALAAH "Aleysalahu Bi-axkamil Xaakimiin" Almighty Allah created both men and women and made them eqaul in every way wheather it's Cibaadah, or Caqiidah. Allah has set certain rules for them and that's where the difference comes from. In suratul Taxriim, Allah has set example of a woman (A great woman, kana mid ah afarta haween kuwaasoo la sheego inaysan aduunyada waligood soo marin) for us the believer, yes, you and I, have to follow the footsteps of that woman, do you not know or not heard of AASIYA BIN JAXSHI, wife of Fircown. The difference is just the status of men and women according to the sharicah but according to Allah and Cibaadah, they are both eqaul but sometimes women are better than men in terms of many things. For exampled, the prophet said, whomever upbrings two young daughters (female) teaches of Islam, gives them good tarbiyah, una guuriya, Janada waxaan ku nahay sidan, labadiisa faro ayuu ishaaray. Marka waad arki kartaa, will ku daal aad u barbaari laakiin barri haduusan dil kuu keenin ayaad fiican tahay. Women have high ranks and hight levels in Islam but when it comes to taqwa, women/men are same. * Gaalada ayaa Islaamka waxay ka baratay labo wax, guurka badan iyo adoomeysiga, yacni qaniimada la helo markii jihaad la galo oo gaalo la furto laakiin waxaanu leenahay diintaa qabta waana aaminsanahay.
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| | Wednesday, November 22, 2000 - 03:48 pm <a href="http://www.islaam.com>check it out</a>
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| | Friday, November 24, 2000 - 02:04 pm cilmi Man and women are equal in spiritual world, it is only their Cibaada that makes one superior to another. In the material world, however, shariica is very clear about the role of women and man and they are not equal. Equality in the sense of Kufri world has never been entertianed by the sharia. The point of my comment to US marine's miracle was to show what his list imlpies. Man and women are not same in the material world, but since they are counted evenly according to US Marine's statistics it goes without saying that they are equal. What I am concerned is the hidden agenda of those who posted this so-called Miracles. According to Ibn tayamiyah, one of the greatest thinkers of Islam, good deeds far out-number evil deeds. In other words, there are many good things that one could do than there are bad things. And Since the so-called mircales evenly counts shaytaan and mallaa'ikta it suggests again than the two might be equal. Finally,look at aakhira and Aduunka they are evenly counted agian. What we know from the Qur'aan flatly contradicts the so-called miracles. Qur'aan in particular and Islamic religion in general stress the greatness of AAKHIRA OVER THIS WORLD,why then they are counted evenly in the so-called miracles. If Aakhira is equal to Aduun, malaa'ikta and devil are equal, and man and women are equal, then this is a direct contradiction to the basic teachings of Islam? Do you see my concern. In my opinion the intention of this carefully constructed miracles has far greater implication than the simple satistics it conveys. In addition, look the source, someone who works for the greatest enemy of Islam.
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| | Sunday, November 26, 2000 - 09:40 pm hello all. i am back from tokyo. it was long 9 days, but finally back. DURGAL i am fasting right now, i can not call bad names or anythink but i will tell you to dust your quran and see that stats if they ARE RIGHT OR WRONG. abot women and men beigh equal. danm right we RE EQUAL.spritual or not not. if u wanna see where i found it from go and find from the holly quran. why should i contradict the quran while i call myself muslim. because i am US marine as u call the great satans. pls give me a break. i am sure the more better muslims than u in the us forces. to be in the us force is not haram. i think if ur woking in the west countries u should try yto find out where ur tax goes too. if u go disney land, KFC customers , burger king , work for microsoft and if ur living in united states and paying tax u need to realise you money goes straight to israel and the u8se against muslims. anyway i will -proof u wwrong where ever you go so as i told u go and dust ur quran and read it .
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 07:17 pm US marine welcome back None of the traditional islamic jurists, the likes of thirteenth century Hanbali juri-consult Ibn taymiyyah and and eleventh century great Sufi thinker Abu- Hamid Al Ghazali have in their wildest imagination conceived a muslim serving in unbelievers Army regardless of the conditions. Isn't it normal then to question your present condition? It is one thing to transmit something it is another thing to interpret it. I'll ask you agian what does the even-numbered "miracles" say or imply? If you don't have an answer don't post it. Look people I am not a religious man but I am smart enough to know that you can't interpret the Holy Qur'aan unless you are using the tradional way Al- Tabari,Ibn Kathir and so on. These two men have spent all their lives in gathering the early Salaf's interpretation of Qur'aan and deviced a sound sunnical system of the Qur'aanic interpretation. Today they are the most respected and widely used Tafsiirs. Finally, We must not use rational tools to interpret the qur'aan such as your interpretaion of seas which becomes equal to scientific version of water compostion on earth. Are you saying the quranic version is right because it is similar to that the scientific one or the other way round, the scientific one is similar to that of qur'aan. Which one is evaluated agianst the other? Are Seas and water the same in terms of Qur'aanic definitions and Western understandings? In the end only Allah knows best. What you did may seem to you normal but it is not. So please bro be careful and evaluate your live.
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 10:35 pm durgal i think u kind of ask me a question which i did not get it . are u asking me why did i used the uneven numbers or even coz i really don't get your point of at all. if u ask me why are used the uneven numbers like sea and land then this is answer for you. i used that one coz that is what the miracle is about . the western and the quranic way are indicating the same numbers,that mean the quran existed b4 the west so we will say the western way is similiar to the quranic way. pls do not miscoat me . i am not anti islam or come here to misinterpret the quran. one more think i knew i was more religious than you
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| | Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 07:38 pm US marine Do you see the first four opposites ( AlDunya and Al- Akhira, Al-Malaa'ikata,and AL-shaytaan, Al- Hayatu and Almowt , Al-Rajul and Al- Mar'a ) numbers are same. like ( 115,115)(88,88)(145,145) (24,24). What do the numbers imply? that was my question. It seems to me right now that you have no idea what they imply. Here is where I am coming from. Since these opposite concepts are mentioned in the Qur'aan evenly someone might argue that they have equal importance.We know from the Qura'aanic and Sunni teachings that Aakhira, Malaa'ikta iney ka fadli badanyihiin aldunya and shaytaan, shariica too gives man priority in number of areas over woman. I am not arguing the truthfullness of the numbers but rather questioning any possible ill-conceived motivations and interpretations like the one I mentioned above. It seems to me now you had good intentions and if that is the case accept my apology. I was really concerned the possibilty of someone making statement,especially manipulating those even numbers. My second concern, as fellow somali and muslim, still stands, why are you serving this freak capitalistic Satan Army? Don't tell me you like it. You have responsibilty to know what islamic jurists think about your job, I mean real jurist not those who are after this world.
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 04:13 am i accept your apology first. the second i don't need just talks or what you think i need proof from the quran or the sunna which says you can not serve in the US force. who am i going into war with. i am sitting here in japan. chilling sitting in my butt, doing my ramadan peacefully so what u talking about. anyway that is i wanted to be i did it for a reason and i don't think it concern any of you. why don't you ask those who live in states and other western countries paying tax to those countries and they are pro zionist (israel). so what will u say about those. take care bro think about that first.
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 10:42 am S/Alaikum, I personally don’t subscribe to the whole idea of miracles in the Quran and we should not attach too much importance to it. The Quran is the word of God and does not have to conform to scientific findings.I f we were to use this argument ( scientific) as a point to convince the non muslims that the Quran is indeed the word of Allah it could open pan·do·ra's box. How about the countless times that Quran and science clash on issues ( e.g Darwins’ theory of evolution). More over other religions too have myths about their faiths, a Hindu doctor that we worked together once told me that science is now waking up to the benefits of “ meditation” that was mentioned in the Gita and Bhagwat ( the Hindu scriptures) thousands of years of ago and he added saying isn’t your daily prayers a form of meditation? ( Mushrik ). I was in Dire Dawa in 1993 when a story broke out that a sheep was born with the inscription ( La Ilah Ila Lau Muhamadu Rasulu Lah) on it, I went and saw it. What can I say, it could be read different by different people There is the danger that if we dig this further we could end up questioning some of the very basic tenets of Islam. The beauty of Islam and Muslims lies in the fact that we obey Allah with out questioning. We never try to understand the rationale behind many of the Islamic beliefs, after all the human head has its own limitations and can’t comprehend all that is to the Almighty. Let us leave it that way. Wa Bilaahi Towfiiq.
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 11:35 am Well it's almost time to break fast and I am in my campus, trying to read and cover some silibus from the websites, then I get the urge to see what has happened since I last peeked in. I am outraged by those who repremend us marine for taking the time to add something new to our knowledge and be in awe of our glorious Quaran, and all the hidden truths that we can not simply unmask. What does the man's job have to do with the glorious Quran. He did not in any way tell us anything personal about him, must we judge someone and find fault in their ways. Couldn't you have taken his word for it, and if you wanted further knowledge, just simply asked. I think it's sad when someone wants to share their new found marvel with their Islamic brothers and sisters and is suddenly rediculed Got to run...must pay homage to our Lord, Ramadan Kariim to you all
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 12:15 pm thanx sister surReal. good luck in your homework. ramadan kariim
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| | Friday, December 01, 2000 - 07:46 am US marine You are young. Don't to you have the responsibility to know whether something is Halaal or Haraam before you do it. And agian it is your job to clarify what the sharia thinks about your job not mine. Good luck! and remember not all the people see the crescent moon.
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