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WHY DO SOMALIANS CARE SO MUCH ABOUT TRIBES, THIS IS WHAT CAUSED ALL THE PROBLEMS IN SOMALIA

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (Before Dec. 16, 2000): WHY DO SOMALIANS CARE SO MUCH ABOUT TRIBES, THIS IS WHAT CAUSED ALL THE PROBLEMS IN SOMALIA
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ACUU DU BILAAH

Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 07:21 am
I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THIS TOPIC BECAUSE EVERYWHERE I GO IN THE FORUMS PEOPLE ARE INSULTING TRIBES.

"MY TRIBE IS BETTER THAN YOURS".

IF PEOPLE DID NOT PAY SO MUCH ATTENTION TO TRIBES IN SOMALIA, NONE OF THE WARS WOULD HAVE OCCURED.

SOMALIANS CLAIM NOT TO BE RACIST, BUT IN THE WARS THEY BUTCHERED, KILLED, RAPED THEIR OWN PEOPLE AS THEY WERE OF A DIFFERENT TRIBE. WHY?

WHO CARES WHAT TRIBE YOU ARE? WE ARE ALL SOMALI'S AT THE END.

IT'S A SHAME THAT I FIND COMMENTS FROM YOUNG PEOPLE IN THESE FORUMS STILL ATTACHED TO TRIBES.

PEOPLE ALL THAT I AM SAYING IS SOMALIA CANNOT BE A BETTER NATION WHILE PEOPLE CARE MORE ABOUT TRIBES THAN OUR PEOPLE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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A VICTIM

Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 05:10 pm
COZ THEY ARE TOUGHT ABOUT TRIBES SINCE THEY ARE TWO YEARS OLD, SO IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT. ONLY THOSE WITH BRAINS LIKE YOURSELF UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS WRONG.
ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT EASY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, ONE SOLUTION COULD BE INTERMARRIAGES.

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Jawaahir

Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 01:41 am
Hi there
I think our people need more education. They got this narrow mind that won't except anything else rather what they've been told. I just pray to Allah the next generation will be more open minded about it, but for now nothing can be done bro. Let's just hope for the best!!!

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yare

Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 03:41 am
They are stupid and slow people, with no future


Just make sure your not one of them.

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DuH

Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 04:44 am
Why do somalis ......? DuH

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ACUU DU BILAAH

Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 07:06 am
DUH,
IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY?????

ANYWAY. THANKS FOR YOUR INTELLIGENT REPLIES, APART FROM DUH, WHO WROTE SOMETHING NOT EVEN WORTH MENTIONING.

I AM JUST A CONCERNED SOMALIAN SISTER.

A VICTIM,
I THOUGHT INTERMARRIAGES ALREADY OCCURED. ANYWAY WHATS UP WITH INTERMARRAIGES?
YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S BETWEEN BLACK & WHITES, IT'S REALY BETWEEN SOMALIANS AND SOMALIANS.

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DuH

Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 07:29 am
ACUUDU BILLAH

TRIBES ARE IMPORTANT.I CAN ONLY MARRY SOMEONE FROM MY OWN TRIBE.ITS NOT PRJUDICE,IT'S CHOICE.DUH

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ACUU DU BILAAH

Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 08:25 am
TO DUH,

YOU SHOULD:
DIE MOTHERF*CKERS, DIE M*THERFUCKERS,DIE MOTHERF*CKERS, DIE M*THERFUCKERS,DIE MOTHERF*CKERS, DIE M*THERFUCKERS,DIE MOTHERF*CKERS, DIE M*THERFUCKERS,

SOME ONE AS STUPID AS YOU SHOULD DIE AND MAKE WAY TO THE HOPEFULLY MORE INTELLIGENT NEW GENERATION.

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Muslimsista

Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 01:53 pm
Salam all

ACUU DU BILAAH it was really good to hear wat U were saying I totally agreed with U... BUT the last message U posted I thought to myself wat is this girl thinking. What you've done was not appropriate. Your talking about fighting when U provoked one right now so wat U are trying to tell every1 is contradicting. And I hope ALLAH forgives U and the clanists for all their actions(meaning bad actions). U had me fooled. but you've showed me wat U really are with the last message.
It was told to us when some1 like Duh speaks U say PEACE and not do wat U have done.

If I've said anything that has offended anyone please forgive me and if I've said anything good its from ALLAH and anything bad is from ME.

Salamzzzz all:)

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A VICTIM

Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 11:08 pm
ACUU DU BILAAH
HEEEEEEEEEEY SISTER CALM DOWN, I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BUT YOU CAN'T CHANGE WHAT IS GOING IN A WHOLE NATION BY YOURSELF...ANGER SOLVES NOTHING! SAY: ASTAQFIRULLAAH.

ABOUT INTERMARRIAGES I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BEST SOLUTIONS TO THIS PROBLEM. IN MY CASE I CONSIDER MYSELF VERY LUCKY COZ I HAVE DAAROOD, ISAAQ AND HAWIYE RELATIVES! THOUGH I WAS BROUGHT UP AMONG DAAROOD I FEEL I BELONG TO ALL OF THESE TRIBES....

AT THE END I THINK THE EXTREME OF TRIBALISM AMONG SOMALIS DEPENDS ON HOW BAD THEY HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED WITH TRIBAL NONSENSE!

MAY ALLAH FORGIVE US, AAMIN

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us marine

Monday, December 04, 2000 - 03:45 am
it is better not even to mention that topic here, coz just 5 of you in this conversation couldn't get long what do you think of trhe who nation. DUH

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ACUU DU BILAAH

Monday, December 04, 2000 - 11:20 am
THE COMMENT I MADE TO DUH WAS A JOKE, HE GOT THE FUNNY SIDE OF IT. PLEASE DON'T FEEL UPSET.

ANYWAY, LEAVE YOUR MESSAGGES PLEASE ON HOW THIS PROBLEM COULD BE SOLVED.

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4EVER

Monday, December 04, 2000 - 12:46 pm
HI ppl,

the problem is not knowing your own tribe or knowing about other tribes. it is when you put down a person or ppl just because of their tribe.
Somalia's problems has absolutely nothing to do with tribes but has a lot to do with bad leaders the worst one being "Afwayne". The ones that are trying to rule the country right now are all his students so what do you expect form them if there teacher was corrupt they will be corrupt as well.

peace 4EVER

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ACUU DU BILAAH

Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 12:22 pm
4EVER,

YOU JUST MADE A VERY WISE COMMENT, IF I DO SAY SO.

I AGREE TOTALLY. EVERYONE WHO IS TRYING TO RUN SOMALIA NOW, HAS BEEN LINKED SOMEHOW TO AFWANE, SO WHAT CAN WE EXPECT EXCEPT MORE PROBLEMS?

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Ms

Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 02:06 am
Bro
thats some thing i have been trying to understand for about 9-10yrs and still i cant figure it out...dont stress about it......coz it aint worth getting worked up about it......

u know when some one asks u where are u from, and u say Somalia......then the ask u why are u here what they hell do u say......ooohhh can u believe it we burned down our own country....aint that so cool...or is that stupid and pathetic.

some times i am ashamed to say i am somali (dont get me wrong) our own people killing each other and destroying there own country..........and u know what's funy they did not gain anything except to be come refugees and beg other countries for food........clothes and benefits....
i cant understand and i dont think i will ever understand.....and can some body pls explain to me why why why???????? we had a beautiful country and know its all gone because we are so greedy.....just cant take that in!

if we dont stop this tribe thing......its going to happen again and again.......coz we are that greedy and ignorant.

peace out
and i pray to allah that we change for better

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DuH

Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 06:46 am
Acuudi Billah

You have to understand that Qabiil is part of us.Its like a passport,if you are Hawiiyee,there is no visa for you. DuH

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ACUU DU BILAAH

Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 10:20 am
DUH,
I REALY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TRIBES. SO YOU HAVE JUST LOST ME WITH YOUR LAST COMMENT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY TRIBES DON'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME IS IF YOU ARE SOMALIAN OR NOT.

THAT'S THE TRUTH!

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Moh_Luv

Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 10:52 am
ACUU DU BILLAHI:
Thanx for bringin' up this topic. I hope some of "us" here get the hang of it that..>>>>>.. " WE'R FED UP WITH THIS WHOLE TRIBALISM CRAP".
WHY CAN'T WE JUST LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS SOMALIS....INSTEAD OF SOME OTHER OUTDATED REASONS? From my view, i think this whole thing is being driven around by ignorant ppl, and i hope they get to upgrade themselves real soon.
There is no problem with anybody identifyn themselves as belongn to a certain unique ppl, but why brag around and talk about it in public, we gotta realize that somalis are somalis, no matter what tribe they belong. AND AM REALLY PROUD TO SAY THAT I LUV ALL SOM PPL, INFACT....I HAVE NEVER ASKED ANYBODY WHAT TRIBE THEY BELONG TO....REASON: WHAT AM I GONNA BENEFIT BY KNOWING???????

Actions speak louder than words bros/sistas..its upto us to get stop this silly unproductive game..and love one another!! :(
Peace!

Moh_Luv

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A V

Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 12:21 pm
EVERYONE HAS A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE PROBLEM
WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?WE NEED A SOLUTION

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LIBHAN

Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 01:50 am
I SUPPORT DUH QABIL/TRIBES ARE IMPORTANT
EVEN ME I CAN'T MARRY HAWIYEH/DAROD OR OTHER
CRAP TRIBES ICAN MARRY SOMEONE FROM MY TRIBE
WHICH IS ISAQ<>< SORRY THERE IS NO CHANCE FOR
OTHERS.

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MuslimSisTa

Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 03:29 am
Libhan:
i'm sorry to say but people like you are ignorant.
Why you ask? Because all they can think about is their tribe brother look beyond this hatered and stop hattin' upon your own. It's sad to hear that the children today have that mentality i thought we would be over that Well i thought WRONG. Their still ignorant people out their.
Allah(swt) said in the Quran:
In the Name of Allah(swt), the Compassionate, the Merciful
"O mankind ! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you." (The Holy Quran 49: 13)

So brother libhan i suggests you start learning the teachings of the Quran.

If i have offended any1 please forgive me...anything Good i have said is from ALLAH(swt) and anything Bad is from Me

Your sister in Faith Muslimsista
Salamz All:)

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LIBHAN

Friday, December 29, 2000 - 08:27 am
TO MUSLIM SISTER
I WANT TO MARRY ONE OF YOU IS IT POSSIBLE???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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N.London....

Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 04:16 am
I JUST WANA SAY THAT ALAH (SUMXANA WATACALA SAID)
THERE SHOULD BE NO TRIBES OR RACES BETWEEN MUSLIM PEOPLE.. THEY SHOULD BE ONE WITH ISLAM. HOW EVER TRBIES AND RACES EXIST ONLY FOR ONE THING AND THAT IS FOR IDENTIFYING EACH OTHER AND NOT FOR SAYING I AM BETTER THAN HE BECUASE HE IS OF THIS TRIBE. TRUE SAY OUR ELDERS ARE MORE PASSIONET ABOUT TRIBES THAN WE ARE AND WILL NEVA LET GO OF IT, BUT THATS BEACAUSE THEY REMEMBER SOME OF THE NASTY THINGZ THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO THEIR TRIBE BY OTHERS. ALL I CAN SAY IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD IS WITH US YOUNGER GENORATION WE ARE THE WAY FORWARD WE ARE THE FUTURE..SO LETS FORGIVE-----BUT NEVER FORGET... PEACE --------------ONE LOVE

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