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     | Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 05:06 pm Listen young Brothers and Sisters (aged 17-28), i am not saying iam special but i feel that i can make a difference in somalia (just give me ten years to become the man i need to become). The thing that made me mad, was when a youth in school back in 1995, called me a somalian. The first thing that springed to my head was "FARAH knock this fools front lights out", but for some strange reasons i said "Why Thank you, but I know where iam from and i don't need a little white boy telling me that". Now after saying that to him, i remember him being suprised and he tried to be friends with me. My point is this, know where your from and never be afraid of anyone or anything but Allah, for there is the Hereafter. Maybe you can't see it now because your too stupid, i repeat your too stupid. There are two grantees in life 1) Death ( which can happen at any-moment in time(even after you turn off your computer). So don't go expecting tomorrow, because tomorrow may never come)and 2) Tax. I think you all know the problem that we have and i WILL suggest a solution to who ever is willing to here it. My solution is this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>\/ To creat a new somali GROUP called TSN (The Somali Nation), Which any one can join in and be part of(It dosen't matter what clan your from). Maybe this is to hard to take in but ask your self these quistions with a Yes or No answer, honestly: 1) Are you too proud of your clan and there achivements and not willing to make a simple change? 2) If someone from another clan attacked your brother who was seriesly hospitalised, would you attack another member of that clan who you and your friends see just walking down the road? 3) Are you someone who doesn't want to return to somalia and feels comfortable where he/she is rigth now? If you have answered YES to the above don't read on any further. But if your answer was NO you are welcomed to be part of TSN (The Somali Nation) my brother or sister. But Know this though it is we the young generation who can make a difference not the old men who talk politics all day with there tea and the somali mans green leafs. As for me i don't fear anyone or anything but Allah. Even if somalia dosen't change i will be prepared for the Hereafter for that is ever-lasting. So brothers and sisters give me your feed-back to let me know that there are those who think like me. My web-site address is >>>>> www.go.to/farah Peace and iam off for nowwwwwwwwwwww........
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| | Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 05:17 pm You're so charismatic farah wallahi you're and I truly admire you, my answer to all the above questions was no and I truly want to make a difference but I'm seriously going to consider joining the group, I'll sleep on it and I'll let you know tomorrow plus I'll come up with questions....it's a promise.
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| | Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 06:30 pm Lion are you somalian?DuH
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| | Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 06:11 am 28 yrs AND YOU THINK YOU HAVE ANY MORE GROWING UP TO DO. AT 15 YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILTY. GET THIS MENTALITY OUT OF YOUSELF. BEFORE I FORGET NOBODY IS LIKE YOU !!!!!!!!! FREAKAZOID. WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA ? POLICIES? ARE YOU SOME KIND OF NEW CULT? FREAKAZOID. WE ALL SOMALIS AND PROUD AND YES WE ARE ALSO PROUD OF OUR QABIIL (H/Y FOREVER). 1 ADVANTAGE OF KNOWING WHO YOUR QABIIL ARE, IS IMAGINE IF YOU NEEDE KIDNEY TRANSPLANT / MARROW. ( I CAN'T BELIEVE THERE IS AN ADVANTAGE TO HAVING A QABIIL)
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| | Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 02:39 pm Read these simple bullet points Mercutio: 1) Don't call me a freakazoid or try to use any rude comments with my name. 2) Your right about the age, maybe they should start taking responsibilities at 15 and i shouldn't have limited it to the age of 28, that may have been my mistake, but like i said iam not trying to be special. 3) Maybe you should have looked at the title agenda befor you entered this series discussion. 4) You didn't answer my question with a simple Yes Or No. 5)Iam not trying to set up a new cult, why is it to you that you should strike some who has made a suggestion that could change or nation for the better and bering unit and hope. 6)Iam not saying having a QABIL is a bad thing, it is good to know where your great, great, great grand father family was from, but i thought you new the problem, thats why i have written "I think you all know what the problem is". Didn't i say that. The problem is that there are too many leaders. Every clan has a leader which you may know of, but have you ever met or elected for your clans leader?. Do you know your clans leader or have you ever met him and if you have met him did you elect him to be your leader?. Were you given that oppertunitie?. 7) You may be right about having a kidney transplant from another member of your clans. But consider this what are the chances of someone from your clan dieing just when you need a fresh kidney. Consider this too what if some one from another clan was dieing in front of you just when you need a fresh kidney to survive and the parents or relative of that person that was dieing in front of you said no he is not one of us he can't have the kidney. Doesn't that sound intentionaly cruel. Don't you thing this would have been avoided if we were to act as and be just one without some many leaders becuase it't leaders how make decisions for every one including your own clan. 8) Mercutio iam not trying to dis you or anything but next time you critisise any thing that i have said make sure you have reed what i have written and don't just pick the line that worst discribes my discusion. 9) The best thing you could have done was give me a suggestion not attack me like. The thing is i love every one who loves me no matter what clan your from. 10) Remeber this equation Mercutio 0 + 0 = NOTHING. But 1 + 1 = Progress. Think about that carfully. 9) Mercutio if you have reed this message please try to answer my question on a smarter level than the one befor and one more thing don't call me a freakazoid or use any rude comments with my name ever agian. This is for sweetgirl: 1) Thank you for your support and kind comments, and believe me i will give it my 100% OK. 2) I will be setting up internet portal for anyone to join us and find out every thing thats going with our countery (SOMALIA), but not right now. Hopfully same time in the near future INSHAALAH. 3) Expect me to be around this sites genral furom of somali net from now on. Once again thanx and i know now that there are those who think like me, iam not alone. This is for DUH :> 1) For your information iam somalian and next time try to answer my quistion DUH. As for me iam off for nowwwwwwwww............
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| | Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 02:41 pm The Lion, For every Somali with Good Intentions, There are 2 who want to hold him down. If u want to do something good for Somalis, just do it. Don't ask for their advise because they will wreck your agenda. The Master.
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| | Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 03:05 pm The person who started this discussion is the kind of people that we need in this world, however let me teel u this bro: our people r not ready to be unifyed and a nation, why u ask? just look at all the chat lines, there is not even one that doesnt have to talk about gabbill or tribes, if we r stiill concerned with them bullshit why u all come from somalia? yes, the next generation will make as difference, if we stop talking like animals and tribes- just take an example from the jews and how they maintain- ( know the histroy of jews before u comment on this subjects) but seriously, we have a long way to go - and yes make the president of somalia i will make every1 very happy - just to have be logical P.s please folks lets get reeal,serious and organized.
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 10:05 am the lion my answers were all no...i wanna join this TSN thing but will i get paid or anything?
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 02:46 pm This is for wisdom >>\/ The rewards of being the few who helped rebuild somalia is much greater than man made paper. Don't you want to leave a legacy for your ganeration to look up and say my great grand dad was part of that movement that helped somalia to it's two feet ?. So building that great strong fundation for somalia is like a reward it's self because your securing your kids, kids, kids future, so that history doesn't repeat it's self. If this young group grows no-body knows what we might become but Allah. This is for Master >>\/ Master your absoulutly right they will wreck my agenda, but i needed to see that there were somalia people like you who can use a great deal of there brains percentage. So i really thank you for advice and i will take it to considaration. This is for Roots >>\/ Thank you for your kind comments Roots. And your right they may talk "my tribe is this and that", but someone has to try something different and thats why iam here, to try and make a difference if i can. And i won't stop until i do. If i can even show them the Error of there ways, that will mean the start of something how knows, but iam here to try and i feel that you can also make a difference after reading your comments above. So thanx again Roots. As for me iam off for nowwwwwwwwww............
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 03:05 pm This was the most intg think i read in this forums,mr lion u right about everthing u said and we have along way to go,but we can overcome our obsticals and as unifed we are stronger than divided,but to those of u who are narrow minded let the bro speak and each one of us can make adiffernce it will a pleasure for every young somali to join this. as for me am 24yrs and go college and they is no day that goes by i don't think about somali, so please this is a start if u really mean what u wrote bro and may good bless u all and somali, happy idd
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| | Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 07:00 pm Long live The lion There are those who lead and those who follow. Few of us can lead, however, not only do we need to be together but also we need to grow together. Like Ahmed yare said this is one hell of observation. The start of everything is communication and certianly this net has many people like you. I will be happy man if is topic generates not only ideas but brings together young people who are out there and individualy struggling to find solution to our problmes. Some of you may be out there designing your own strategies. Like the lion said please show up and bring you ideas. We will disect them, throw the illogical part and keep what is important. As for me, I am 28 years old social scientist, in my senoir year,double majoring in Polisci& Econ, planning to go graduate school for Economic development. I am also Islamist, I don't beleive Western crap, Very cautious about the introduction of the shariica to Somalia. There has to a qualified people to adminster it before its introduction. So The Lion what is you story? I dont care about qualification, I care about ideas. I can see you want buy house at the longest beach in Africa, leave this God forsaken country. But again it is difficult to live in peace and happiness unless your neighborhood enjoys the same. So what starts out to be building your house ends up building your country. I feel you man.
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| | Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 08:42 pm Can you tell us more about TSN, I would like to know what I am getting myself into and I do have to take permission from my parents like a good little girl you see. I answered no to all your questions and I think I might be the sort of person your looking for, practically born and raised in North America, has no sense as to how clans work, ignorant of all Somalian politics but just interested in seeing the plight of her nation flourish and abolishing all ill-fated tribal notions.
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| | Friday, December 22, 2000 - 02:35 pm This is for Durgal >>\/ You are absolutly right. If you want to know my story go to this web-site, it has all you need to know about me >> www.farah.go.to And also read the next message after this, because i will mention some thing about the current man that i am. Remember to E-mail me your E-mail address, so i can send you the official TSN web-site once it's ready, for all members to communicate on. Remember this > We will make a difference once united INSHAALAH. My E-mail address is > ( playing@postmaster.co.uk ) This is for SurReal >>\/ TSN (The Somali Nation) is a united somalia. Let me go into further details > TSN are a group who consist of vertually every somali clan (i hope) and how don't have a clan leader. Decision will be made by 11 elected members, and the peaceful thing about this group is that we will have and make no enamys because any somalian can be part of TSN (They don't have to be TSN blooded). The point is you can still be what ever your clan is but to be part of us you have to promise us you will not take orders from your clan leader (if you know him) if he tells you to go kill some one you don't know. SurReal if you have any comments on what i said before or wish to give me an idea, please do so and remember i will create the official TSN web site for any somali to be part of us whether there there in Sweden, Holland, America or anywhere. Through this web site i hope we can communicate, share ideas, grow and become really strong enough to make a great impact on so many crushed life (We are really lucky to escape from the fight for leadership). As for me iam off for nowwwwwwwww...........
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| | Friday, December 22, 2000 - 02:59 pm This is a little bit about Me (The Lion) >>\/ Iam a muslim who lives in london. Iam a university student, learning an E-Commerce Degree. Iam an inventor how loves comming up with creative and modified ideas. Iam a very hard worker, meaning when i put something on my mind, I won't stop until i get it. I don't like the somali mans green leaf drugs (jaad). And iam 18 years old. My current web site is ( www.farah.go.to ). I hope that was very informative about me. As for me iam off for nowwwwwwww..........
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| | Friday, December 22, 2000 - 03:03 pm For Any one who wants me to send them the finished web address (URL) of the official TSN web site, please E-mail your E-mail address here >>>>> ( playing@postmaster.co.uk ). And please give me some time to develope the site. As for me iam off for nowwwwwwwww...........
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| | Friday, December 22, 2000 - 08:02 pm Yes Yes Yes First B.I.G up to lion and the rest of the team. I agree 110% what you said, and I would like to join TSN. My brother some of us have greatens in them and you are one of them. The new generation will make mark that the old one did not. Since we all know that old generation have more respect for warlords and the new one should not the some path. I have no respect for the warlords that are getting money from the western countries. Peace out to My beautiful people and love for ever our Nation.
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| | Saturday, December 23, 2000 - 04:40 am To Lion. If you are serious, how come you don't have your ideas on your website? Just curious...
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| | Saturday, December 23, 2000 - 11:35 am The Lion I am sure this will be the start of new page to Somali history. I have your email and I will send you mine as soon as possible. Like I said it does not matter qualification, whether or not you have a political science degree to help your people. This is my criteria for people, first, are they sound believers? Second, are they intelligent? Third are they motivated? So far in all In all these three area you impressed me. In addition, you are an original thinker. 0+0 = 0 and 1+1= is something, think about that. I have two heroes,and they are both Muslims, on one side,eleventh century,great jurist, psychologist, original thinker, sufi master Abu-Hamid Al-Ghazali, on the other the versitile genius,the greatest muslim polemicist,an accomplished jurist, social thinker,and the greatest muslim social reformer since the prophet SWC, Sheikh Islam Taqi Din Ibn taymiyyah.
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| | Saturday, December 23, 2000 - 12:11 pm Piosonous, take a deep breath and change your outlook in life. Start with your Nick. I have seen your various comments on different subjects, you seem very perceptive man, and we need you man, we need everyone, It is your nation it is not for Lion or for me. In addition this is the start it is not the end, Does your contribution count? Think about this, how many somalis are in a position to lead? 20, 30. GET IN. You had a legitimate question and I believe I have good sense of what somalia need to do in order to be model for the rest of Africa. What one can do another can do. If the West built all these then we can build our beloved somalia. This is public forums and there is a limitation of what someone can say, thus if you are interested in for change we can swap emails.
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| | Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 10:53 am To aeloved somali's The things that really amaze me is that as a people do we even think about our children cause i belive that u don't build anation for the present but for the future,so for those of us who are in betweeen18-30 it is time to think about our grandchild and their children.Mr durgal u are very bright bro,so as lion but i u said this is the beging not the end.What we need is strong men who will start i new chapter in somali history one that is not based on tribe ,but rather that we are all created equally and we worhship allah, so please as dad always told me each and everything u wanna do first starts with u so it is our duty from now on to show that chrisma , may god bless all of and somali
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| | Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 12:52 pm HEY FOR THE RECORD BROTHER..how many people are in this tsn ...also since we're so far apart (you know...) how do you plan on meeting ..if you say chatrooms may god help you mannn..and what is it about tsn that'll help somalia rebuild into the once great nation it was *(or not)*. LET'S FACE THE FACTS my freind ....first you need sponsors second you need money to rebuild somalia alot of money and if your thinking of america to help our blackk asse's rebuild somalia your on overdose..thirdly there isn't no way (jose') that a couple of ppl in this discusion could help build a damn country kazzilions of miles away .....but here's an option >>>>>>>>>>>float back down towards earth an look around.<<<<<<  i'm not sayin that this ain't a great idea but let's start by educating ourselve's towards that goal first ...first fact ...we all are uneducated (for the most of us) secondly were all too damn lazy >>>thirdly there is no way anybody is willing to fly to where ever you are to try and get this damn tsn off it's hind ... but it was a good thought tho' .......thank you written and copywrited by "superior yet inferior".tm
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| | Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 01:04 pm i said yes to all of the questions and no i don't want to join this transexuals sexist network of yours(tsn) tsn's first opposing force ..that's me > hahah> i take great pride in crippling this thriving topic...and my name will b written down as " the great being who stopped deadly terrorist from attacking and spreadint there stupid-damental ideas... hahahhahahahahhahahahhhahaha
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| | Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 01:07 pm hi oh i was "high" when i wrote this damn exstacy really is cool hahahaha •••• this is nice and you all can forget about the whole tsn bullshit i fooled yo asses ahhahahahahahhah ahahahhaha mannn more (exstacy plzzz
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| | Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 01:08 pm thank you all for joining the transexual sexist network ahahhahaha you dudes are going to love what's nextt
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| | Monday, December 25, 2000 - 05:17 pm This is to who ever is trying to use my name >>\/ 1) You are abviously not O.K in the head and don't try to use my name again. 2) You have a serious problem to attack anyone who has an idea or concept. 3) Maybe you feel threatend of change and rather you want to get brain washed by western life. 4) You have obviously missed the sign that said leave this discusion, because you are not serious enough to be here. 5) Or maybe your childhood memorys have a seriuos effect on the current life you are living. 6) Please understand your childesh behaviour is not needed in this discussion. 7) If you're going to copy my name, then remember i don't use rude or slang terminology to express my self OK!. 8) You might be sexualy depressed or you don't know what sex group you are from. 9) You have a seriuos problem with your spelling and you seem to think that the last letters of a word repeat them selfs (You might need GGLLAASSSSEESS OK!). 10) And lastly ask your self these questions (because they could help you recover)>> i) Is my brain still on ? ii) Where am i ? iii) Where am i from ? iv) Am i brain washed by my surroundings ? v) Do i care where i live in the future, if there is a future? vi) Am i a muslim, and if so do i pray 5 times a day (like a muslim person should)? Now if you can't answer those question possativly then there is no hope for you. Your kids, kids, kids, kids names will be either >John> david> harry> mathew> marry> cindy or wendy( if anyone is stupid enough to marry you). And how knows your kids, kids, kids, kids might even end up marraying JEWS. It is you who has to establish that strong fundation for later genarations to follow. This is for anyone who thought that Somali-Phsyco was me >>\/ 1) The discussion is still open and please right in your ideas and comments you wish to make (Nothing Rude). 2) TSN stands for > The Somali Nation and not transexual sexist network like that somali-phsyco said. 3) Please remember if that phsyco returns don't read or take in what ever he says because he has lost-the-plot. This is for S. Y. I >>\/ 1) Thank you for your ideas S. Y. I. 2) You look as if you want to join, but only if there are a great numbers involved already. 3) Your point on the somalia's not been educated because there is a clear example of one above. But at the same time there are those who are educated . How many people around the world do you think know what you know?. 10, 20, 40, 80, 160, 320 or maybe 10,000. You don't know how many there are do you. 4) S. Y. I i hope i can here from you again on this issue. This is for Durgal >>>\/ Thank you for your support brother, and remeber this TSN was not a joke and it will bering about a change. And thanks again brother. This is for Poisonous >>>\/ The reason why my ideas are not on by web-site is because i haven't updated that site for the last 6 month. As for me iam off for nowwwwwwww............
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| | Monday, December 25, 2000 - 05:22 pm I repeated the message above twice by accedent (sorry about that). As for me iam off for nowwwwwwww...........
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| | Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 11:09 am Ahmed Yare It takes a real man to be different from the rest and go after what is right. In other words seeing things the way they are. Some of us, you, lion, me ,and few others can see already our backs against wall, others need more time, but then agian there those who will never see it. We don't care those,in fact we should screen them out, and scort them out if you will. You are passionate man, and it is one of the characteristics of great leadership. I said to Lion and I am saying to you we need to grow as a unit, and we will if our ultimate GOAL is to help somalia. We are not going to be an idealistic group who just talk and do nothing. Ciid mubaarak brother.
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| | Saturday, December 30, 2000 - 11:00 am The Lion Ciid mubaarak, you must be busy man. How is going, did you have good Ciid? I sent couple of emails let me know if you got them. I also have some suggestion on the project,contact me.
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| | Saturday, December 30, 2000 - 11:43 am To All What happened to your common senses ? let us analyse this simple statement of the main argument..(The creation of a new group called--TSn--). I am opliged to say that having visited your website and having been unable to find anything related to this new invention of yours,i feel compelled but to oppose your adventures,, 1-There are common guidelines for every organisation with regard to its activities---you ahve taken no steps in that direction nor have you put your detailed proposals forward,, 2-For every organisation ,,there are administrative core procedures to be performed on the part of its founders--what have you so far done in that direction. 3-The visions you have highlighted are too shortsighted,, 4-Have you assessed, analysed, and evaluated the present day mentality of somalis towards what you have suggested?? 5Your proposition to the ppl to join this organization finally indicates your lack of objectivity in the sense that without proper structures,guidelines,visions,policies, and etc on your part as the founder of this organization this organization might not succeed,,.. Finally, i admire your invention even though it is impractical by nature..
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| | Sunday, December 31, 2000 - 11:33 am Faisal, with all due respect get the •••• out here we already have enough people with permenant mood of resignation. Do you really care anything else other than talking. This is my email Iamdead@yahoo.com and contact me 50 years from now.
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| | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 11:40 am farah: I like to say well done for TSN,BUT, remember that night in KFC, when me, your brother, dagane, hasani, muqtar, hunchback, and mahamoud, when we were talking about starting an organization like yours and you laughed at us. Now I ask you, why the sudden change of mind? If you laughed at our ideas, why are you copying us?. So, what's next Mr copycat?. Brothers and sisters, please understand that i am not playa hating farah, i love him like my brother, but, he is copying our idea. Anyone farah, good luck with TSN, and we are here to support you. ASH
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| | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 11:12 am dear farah i agree with you 100% of what you saying but at the end of the day talk is cheap. What i would suggest is that you and the team behind this great idea is to plan a meeting for the TSN and thos who are willing to make that little bit of difference for their country that was once UNITED and exchange ideas of how we can overcome the situation and create solution. And now i ask you and who ever is reading this, do you know who is SAYID MOHAMED known as the MAD MULAH if so cindley reply
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| | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 02:40 pm dear somali brothers and sisters!!!! I think every somali youth had an idea similar to this one in their head from time to time,so lets not waste time on who invented this wonderful idea.It is true shouldent we care about our children and what we are leaving them with,do we wanna be like the indians alcoholics,crackheads and forever ignored after the whites finished with them. somebody said once :In order to destroy a certain people or a race you have to make them lose their religion, they're language or their land. We somalis got all tree so why are we making ourselves eliminated. the brother indeed has some good ideas and what's wrong with dreamers if he dreams somebody else will back him up with the action.We need to dream in order to motivate ouselves. If you close your eyes and choose to be happy and satisfied with livin in another country for ever good for you, but heey ,.. I realized that i was somali ,and forever will be the day when I got seriously beaten by a white cup and he called me for a bush women and I ended up in jail for no reason blood covering my white t-shirt and nobody gave a •••• about what I had to say.The anger you feel what you understand at times like that are undescibable. I know I'm inteligent tall and proud beutfull somali girl I dont need my children to maybe take crapp from a cup like the one I met,and I also know when I was born that everbody congrulated my mom and dad and told them Ilaahay ha ka dhigo tii dadkeeda iyo dalkeedaba wax tarta. So brother lion you have my back. p.s. Deeq ilaah baa leh danimana somali baa leeh dalkeenina weeyaan kuu dalxiis macaanda. Peace and Unity.
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| | Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 04:27 pm I am farah's brother and we share the same ideas on almost eveything. The Mad Mulah is our nations greatest hero and his name is still remembered, not just in Somali but all over the world. He took the fight to the British and other foriegn dictatorships. Did you all know that Somalia was the first country the British RAF(Royal Air Force) attacked with planes. I am proud to say that our great granfather used to supply the weapons to the Mad Mulah, and got killed for it by his cousins. PPL we need to trace back to our great history if we are to go forward.
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