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Marriage to someone outside your qabli,can it work?

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (Before Feb. 16, 2001): Marriage to someone outside your qabli,can it work?
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Just wondering

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 11:45 am
I have been told that it is not a wise thing
how do u feel bout that???And in case if it is
a girl it is harder on her famely!!!

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Anonymous

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 12:51 pm
Oh I see, the other qabils are not good enough, hmmm even though they are Somali. Hey why open it up to the whole clan, I'm sure there are some sub-clans within your clan that are not good for you too. You know what, why don't you keep it within the family, yeah marry only your paternal cousins. That way, you all have the same name and blood right? But wait what about all the retarded inbred kids you produce? Oh well I guess that's the price you pay for being a hater!

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Oday-Biiqay

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 12:55 pm
well said anonymous i have nothing to add but to tell you grow up and use your brain. As long as he is somali and is right for you nothing else should matter.

I hope you do the right thing and what is right for you.

Alaa Kariim

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Abdi

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 10:13 am
Of course it can work! It's nothing new! Also, just because you marry someone of your qabil doesn't mean this is a prescription for a perfect marriage. You may still be incompatible in alot of ways.

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Just wondering

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 12:16 pm
Okay,so why do some ppl disagree then?
see the thing is i am not raised with qabil
and that stuff,just learning it now and i am 19!
and i don't see why ppl have a problem with it,and since i was not born there,and i never been
there,i was wondering if someone can explain where
the idea comes from!

Thanks

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Drifter

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 06:52 am
I am a product of BI-Qabil, especially two that hate each other but still I won't change it for anything. I get the best of both worlds. U also learn to appreciate your people more and look beyond Qabil. There's nothing wrong with wanting to marry from your tribe but u should keep all your options open.

U never know, the grass might be greener on the other side~~~~~~

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MIHIIM

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 06:56 am
TO;

just wondering

if u haven't been raised with qabiil and u hav never seen somalia, why are u wondering if it works?????

if u have been brought up by parents that don't believe in teaching children about qabiils, u shouldn't wonder about it cuz at the end of the day, i'm sure ur parents won't mind marring some1 outside ur tribe!!!!

SOMALI IS SOMALI AND THE PPL THAT HAVE PROBLEMS BELIEVING THAT R IGNORANT AND R JUST SCARED OF WHAT THEY DONT KNOW!!!!!!!!

i'm currently with a guy outside my qabiil and i hav every faith in our relationship!!!!!

DONT BOTHER URSELF WITH MEANINGLESS QUESTIONS AND GET ON WITH THE REST OF UR LIFE!!!!!

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CANO

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 05:47 am
we r living in fantasy land i mean at the end of the day qabil will matter to our parents and to us, i'm sure there is a qabil that u would never consider marrying for me sorry but it has to be HABARYOUNIS i practically grew up in ENGLNAD the so called fish and chips.
it would be nice for us to forget about qabil and just get along but we all know that will not happen not in this universe anyway.

peace out bro/sis
write back ASAP (sorry if i have offended anyone)

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sista

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:41 am
Asalamu ALaykum
Marrying someone out side your Qabil will of course work. Unless you make it diffecult. We all are Muslims, and the most important thing to know is weather the person is good Muslim regardless what Qabil their in or what the colour of their skin is. My mother is Yameni and my father is Somali and their marriage worked out beautifully. So is not good to look at each other by the tribe your in.
P.S that's what killed our beloved country ones. So let not do it again.
Wasalam

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SOME BULLSHIT

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 07:20 am
AM HAWIYE...DON'T MARRY ME..IF U HATE DAAROOD.
LOL
AM ISAAQ...DON'T MARY ME..IF YOU HATE HAWIYE
LOL

AM DAAROOD....DON'T MARRY ME IF YOU HATE ISAAQ
LOL

AM EELAAY...DON'T MARRY ME IF YOU HATE..DIR
LOL

AM DIR...DON'T MARRY ME IF YOU HATE....SOMALIS

AM MIDGAAN...WOULD YOU MARRY ME??
AM TUMAAL ..WOULD YOU MARRY ME?
AM JAREER ....WOULD YOU MARRY ME???


BULLSHIT.....BULLSHIT......

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE SOMALIS?????

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kamal

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 01:49 pm
All of you need to go checkout this links and then think twice before you speak again!!!

Thankyou

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/

http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/isl/hadith1.html#TOC

http://cwis.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muwatta/

http://cwis.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/

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haldhaa

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 02:08 pm
salaan dhamaan qabiil ma sameynaayo micno weynaayo dookhaa adeega iyo isfahamka, midgaan maba jiri ee waa badawnimada soomaalida.

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Hibo

Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:27 pm
Just Wondering: My parents r from two different qabiils.......that r in conflict with each other......yet they have been married happily for the last 26yrs.......I don't think this life of theirs will ever change.........I am hopping u will know my answer to ur Q...It all depends on YOU two......n how u want it to work...

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Abaay

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 03:16 am
walaalayaal qabillka waa wax leysku garto oo nolosheena dhan oo ku jiraa, mahaha wax aan ugu tagikarno sanado yar. hasa yeeshee hadaad jeclaatid qofkale oo qabiilkaada aheyn, wax kaa celinaayo oo islaam ah majiraan and in uu jiro ma aha.waxaan soomaalideena ku fiicanahay, in kastoo oo aan is dilney oo aan is dhacney, waxaa waaye in aan kala guursano qabiilada dhaxdooda.So nolosha ugu fiican aad ku noolaa kartaa, if the person is the right one for you....

salaamacaleykum walaalayaal....

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Rahma

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 10:02 am
Choose your partner because he is good Muslim. If your not the religious type at least pick someone with brains, a guy who is educated who can take care of his family. or go ahead and marry your cousin who has nothing to offer you.

Bye.

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Guilty

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 10:12 am
somalis and qabiil damn

I don't know wazup with somalis but they intend to be qabiil all the time.

How low can we go people.

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HY.Smooth-Operator

Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 01:33 pm
CANO male or a female???

If you're a female

Sis why on earth are you mad at the mighty HY clan?!!________-is it one guy?

Well if that is the case honey there's plenty of fine,true gent's HY heart-breakers out there just fish 1 more time and you won't be disappointed(hopefully).

If you're a bro maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan shop around get another or are you addicted to HY females???

peace be upon the peaceful&Don't hate congratulate,participate.

For everyone else there is HY

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Asma

Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 06:56 pm
Marrying someone from another qabil is really no problem afterall it is only recently that marry your cousin business has become so hot.

But yes if it helps marrying someone from another qabil too has it disadvantages specially now that there so many clans at war. You will always mourn twice once for your husbands family and then for your own family that is if your two clans are at war.

Other than that when it comes to marriage you can marry anyone so long as he is a good muslim. So to hell with the qabil business.


To: Cano

So some haberyonis guy/girl dumped you, come on sweety there are plenty of men/girls out there nothing to hate a whole qabil for what one did to you.

I am sure once you heal your heartache you will get over this temporary hatred.

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LiberalLady

Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 08:00 pm
Why are we talking about such a subject. Let's put the qabiil a side. We are Somalis, now I know we slaughter each other but the point is every qabiil did some damages. Let's move on with our lives and talk about something more meaningful.

TO SOME BULLSHIT:
Listen, u emphasise on TUMAAL AND MIDGAAN, aren't those tribes Somalis. In fact, they are the only ppl who did not wrong anybody and was wrong by everbody. So, would I marry a Migdaan, why not I mean if he is a good guy. I see ppl marrying white ppl. Isn't a Midgaan bro/sis closer to u by religion, culture, language etc. We are from the same product, let's stop putting each other down.

KEEP THE FAITH PPL.

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LiberalLady

Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 08:07 pm
Kamal:
Jizakallah walaal. I have found those web linsk very useful.
Thanks

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Burhaan

Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 09:34 pm
This is the mentality of most Somalis:

I and my Country (Somalia) hate the world
I and my Qabiil hate Somalia.
I and my subclan hate our Qabiil
I and my cousins hate our subclan
I and my family hate our cousins
I and my own brother hate each other
I hate myself

Somalis believe: Gods such as: Hawiiye, Daarod, Isaaq, Raxanweeyn, Dirr and Other minorities.

Have you ever asked to Somalis who killed, destroyed, raped, etc? Everyone is answering: not me, Allah did it ("Amar Ilaah ayeey u dhaceen" or Allah wished to happen it).

It is too painful to be a proud Somali in the 21st century.

Justwondering
Sis you can make your own deduction from what I wrote above and good luck

Burhaan

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kamal

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 03:33 am
S/calaykum

I true agree with you view Burhaan.

Burhaan I think most people have a hard time differtaiting between divine will of Allah[swt] and Freewill... myself included

Burhaan don't look for pride in your people cos i think pride is haraam..

Liberlady :) u welcome sis

Rahma i really would marry my cousin but i'm afriad of genetically inhereted weaknesses... so called inbreed defects... if there is something wrong with me then my cousin has a high chance of having it too... "genousimperfecta"... There is high blood preasure in my family and marrying a cousin would surely increase the chance of my children inhereting the responsible genes.

I do agree with the concept of just insuring that your partner be a good muslim... everything else can be worked out...

Only problem is if everyone listens what i say there will no somalis left, so there must be a line to draw somewhere

************i don't know where though**********

Perhabs i lack the intelligence to visualise something that is simple and easy to the nacked eye

I know one thing Qabiil ain't part of my life... it exists and will effect us all but it is not the problem that is destroying somali people... We the people are doing it and calling by names and labels and dressing it up in Hawiiye, Daarod, Isaaq, Raxanweeyn, Dirr and Other minorities... like these name represent different uniforms of the armed forces of the UN...

We now we just get upset when someone comes along and raises it like they just pressed a button toa nuclear warhead...

-peace
-love
-unity
-harmony
-mutual respect
-tollerance

all come so cheap let us enojoy our simillarities while we battle greater DEMONS

La illaha illallah mohamedan rasullullah

*sigh*

ama aynu isjeclaano ama waa in ayn isdeynaa

salaam

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muniir

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 02:59 pm
CANO

Love knows no qabiil sis if you're unsatisfied with one guy go for another regardless of his qabiil,it doesn't matter as long you have loving,caring heart my sweety.

I'm H/Y and am damn proud of it,I don't hate the rest of my somali bro's and sisters I love them all.

So in the future CANO pick the gentleman not his tribe.beside I was told by so many ladies that us H/Y guys have this strong magnatism,Are you sure he was an H/Y?

Anyways take it easy and move on sweetheart and I wish you the best of luck from the bottom of my heart.

Smooth operator please don't operate LOL just kidding.

Love the person not his freaking clan

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muniir

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 03:01 pm
Asma LOve ya babe

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Maydhan

Monday, February 05, 2001 - 04:46 pm
To CANO

Please sister or brother don't prejugde not all HabarYonis men/girls are bad. I know many good HabarYonis men/girls i can intreduce them to you if u want.

Allah macaak

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Asma

Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 03:38 am
To: Muniir

LOL.... I wonder why?

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Muniir

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 09:45 pm
Asma WHY!!

For being an Honest,thoughful,considerate,sensetive,fair and a lovely lady.
Merci,Mademoiselle Asma

Asma before I depart can moi get some advices from your person concerning life&love matters?!

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Raage

Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 05:32 am
Salaan all,

Hey did i hear the word H/Yoonis, hey leave Xiz Bula alone..aight..lol just kiding.

I think the Cano's Fish and Chips English is confusing if i read it right, i think she said only Habar Yoonis will do it for her, in another word she wanna marry Saciid Garxajis.

So brother..Smooth operator, have a shot.

from a Muuse Cabdale..kaza..lol later all

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3F

Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 03:48 pm
I WILL NEVER MARRY SOMEONE WHOSE IS NOT DHULBAHATE.
MY BLOOD IS DHULOOS, AND MY SON AND MY DAUGHTER INSHA ALAH THEIR BLOOD WILL BE PURE DHULOOOOOS. AND THAT IS MY FINAL ANSWER.

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AB

Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 08:25 pm
Hello ppl, may this hadith cause you to reflect:

the Messenger of Allah (saaw) said, narrated by At-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud,

"There are indeed people who boast of their dead ancestors; but in the sight of Allah they are more contemptible than the black beetle that rolls a piece of dung with its nose. Behold, Allah has removed from you the arrogance of the Time of Jahiliyyah (Ignorance) with its boast of ancestral glories. Man is but an Allah-fearing believer or an unfortunate sinner. All people are the children of Adam, and Adam was created out of dust."

Qabiilism is bad. Period!

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tanade

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 04:43 pm
I'm lelkase and I prefer to marry someone who is L.K aka L.L and I will never marry hawiya and majeerten and that is my final answer.

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Asma

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 09:03 pm
To: Muniir

Well, honestly speaking I am no expert on Life & Love matters but I will be happy to be of help if I can.

Salam.

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Guilty

Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 07:29 am
ahahaha this is funny

because you people suppose to be the future of
somali and look at this your talking about the same ••••, damn GOD HELP SOMALIA

for me i don't care what clan she is all i care is , if she is my type and what is she bringing to the table.

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Alfa

Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 06:40 pm
Tanade and 3F, lololololol... that is the remote mentality of Nomads.. Geelaleeeeeeeeeeeeey.

I am H.G. and I would marry to anybody (Black/yellow/Brown/white, muslim/non-Muslim, etc)and even to money. LOL

Guys wake up and open up your small brain, it is 21st centurry.

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FATIMAH

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 11:32 am
HEY EVERYONE
IAM ISAAQ AND IF I MARRIED ANOTHER CLAN I KNOW FOR SURE MY PARENTS WOULDN'T APPROVE OF IT,BUT IAM GONNA MARRY WHATEVER I WANT , ITIS MUCH HARDER ON GIRLS BECAUSE THE KIDS BECOME THE TRIBE OF FATHER ANYWAY IAM GOING TO MARRY SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS NOT ISAAQ, IAM SURE OF THAT, MY BOYFRIEND RIGHT NOW IS DAROOD AND I THINK IT IS WHATEVER GOD WROTE FOR YOU!!!!

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Anonymous

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 12:17 am
THE ONLY SOLUTION ON QABIL •••• IS DROP A-BOMB ON ALL QABIL IDIOTS. OR WHY NOT DO LIKE HITLER DESTROY THE ENTIRE NATION.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF BEING SOMALI WHEN THE NAME SOMALI IS ASSOCIATED WITH, HATE, MURDER AND IGNORANCE??

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dahir

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 03:59 am
I wonder if anyone cares about love,I believe you belong to where you'r heart takes you to, It could be anyone.It's you wanna marry not you'r parents.my tribe's daarood,my mum's isxaaq and my loving wife's hawiye and god knows how happy I'm.

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