     munira | Monday, January 29, 2001 - 11:37 pm
i have lived in many parts of the states as well as canada.i have seen many parents including mine(thank god my mom is nice)but anyways everywhere i went is the same story.
i have seen many shocking and unexpecting things in our cummunity,and it be honest i am hurt by it and very dissapointed.
see young beautifull ladies drinking,smoking drugs,running away from home(where else is better)
all under the age of 20.(i have seen this mostly in minneapolis)i have also seen very intelgient successfull somali women as well(not every is the same)
MEN-standing by donuts all day,talking about who they slept with last night,dating outside their race and yet they are proud of it.disrespecting their sisters just to impress other guys.(very sick)
PARENTS-refusing they're daughter to marry the person she loves because of qabil.therefore she must run away with him/her.
COUPLES-getting pregnant before marriage,then they decide to have a wedding when the lady is three months preganat.
FAMILIES-living in project housing and on walfare.i dont mind doing that until u get yourself better established.maybe till u get some education and a better job.but it's like they love it meanwhile they are undergrading themselves without knowing (or r they just fools)
Anyways my point is "what makes us different from african americans"?
we have no prospectives in life neither plans(not all of us but most of us).i understand most of us are under great depression from loosing everything including our country.some of us lost families.
but that is not an excuse to forget about our culture and religion.we have a wonderful history to which we should be very proud unlike the african americans here.
i feel ashamed when i see a beautifull somali sister with an outsider same goes for guys.actually i am hurt when i see one of my brothers in the arms of a cheap white girl.(very sad)
now days the worst thing is......our ladies are marrying an outsider and yet they are proud.
i mainly blame the guys for this.
if they werent so busy disrespecting them saying how they slept with every girl but instead showing her how much she means to him and threating her like the queen she is none of this would have happened.
ppl we need to wake up and see what is happening to us.
one person that riches out to another indivdual can make a difference.
as they all say "CHARITY STARTS FROM HOME", start with the closet person to you then u have touched the lives of million others.
i was raised to make a difference,i watched my father work so hard on helping his people.and i admired him about that,it's also what i miss most about him(he died in 1994)but watching him i learned i can make a difference.and i am sure most of u can.
however i am still wondering what happened to us....where did we go wrong?
how can we help eachother?
last but not list,our young generation is very
lost.i mean the growing up kids who are about 5 years and above.what example are we providing for them now.look at us,they are seeing their mothers calling 911 on their fathers,their older sister is going out god knows where,his causine is preganat,his anut run away with a guy who her mother forbide her to marry,his uncle is dating a white girl,his brother is an acholic,the mother is chewing khaat everynight,the father is always out not providing him with manhood guideance.
now please tell me how that little boy will be when he grows up to be 20 years old or even 18.
please be kind.
your sis
munira |
| Anonymous | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 04:13 am
dumb bitch get out of the net. |
| honeyz | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 04:20 am
ya i think you are right about somali people |
| Somali_Yankee | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 04:22 am
what you are saying are true.....i guess we are just paying the prize for evils we have done....the best thing one could do is to take care those around you....your siblings...cousins...etc....i hope somalia and somalis would change for better. |
| Hassan | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 05:09 am
Hello munira,
Let me tell you that Somalis are the same here in London, europe, and all over the world. The problem is that we have left our graet religon and ALLAH is punishing us for it. I have also lost my father when I was young, and I feel I am here to make a diffrence. Not all the young generation is lost, althought most are, there is a bunch of us who want to see our great nation the way it once was. |
| MAD MAC | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 05:27 am
Munira
Can I ask you a question. Why does it bother you when Somalis marry outside their race? As long as the person in question is happy, why do you care? My girlfriend is Thai and I'm white American and both my parents and hers fully approve of our relationship. Why should a Somali be any different, religion not withstanding. |
| Hassan | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 05:31 am
The problem is not marrying outside your race, it is marrying outside your religon or marrying someone without a religon. |
| Xamari | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 05:33 am
Somalis lost their way long time ago- we destroyed our country- now we brought our pathetic way of life to the west-
nothing has changed- same s.h.i.t- different country! |
| sulkha | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 08:48 am
Munira sis, Most of the Somalis who come to America,Europe,and Canada get culturally shocked, simply because they never left their home towns and never seen different cultures. That is y they behave the they behave in foreign countries. |
| Narsa | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 04:22 pm
This is to Mad Man
I think you are in the wrong place man if you are white American,because this discussion is only for somalis and they know the answer to this quesation. no insult
AND TO MUNIRA
HANNY I THINK THE ONLY REASON THAT SOMALIS ARE WHAT YOU SAID IS BECAUSE ALLAH IS PANESHING US FOR WHAT WE DID SO MOST OF US HAVE SUFFER AND LIVE WITH IT
MAY ALLAH GIVE YOU PEACE |
| munira | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 04:39 pm
THANKS EVERYONE FOR UR KIND RESPONSES.
however i know allah is punishing us but he will also forgive us if we ask him to.so why dont we ask for forgiveness and rebuild ourselves.
i know coming to a new place is a shock but that is not an excuse for us to for get where we came from (bush).
still how can we help,we are so much more advanced and educated than we were back home but that doesnt seem to made us better instead worst if i may say so.
i cant write much i am at work now but i will be back to carry this on further. |
| MAD MAC | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 10:51 pm
Narsa
You know a lot of people here seem to have a problem with the concept of freedom of expression. Last I heard this was a public forums. since I am a member of the public... well you can figure out the rest.
Munira
You never did answer the question. |
| SUMMERTIME | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 08:41 am
MUNIRA
THANKS SIS FOR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT YOUR PPL.
AS U KNOW SOMALIA CIVILIZATION HAS NOT LASTED LONG ENOUGH TO SHAPE OUR PEOPLE UNIQUE CULTURE AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WEST HAS NO PREVIOUS EDUCATION. SO IT WOULDN'T BE SURPRISING TO SEE A CULTURE CHOCK NOT TO MENTION THAT SOMALIS ARE BLIND FOLLOWERS WHEN IT COMES TO NEW THINGS. BUT, YOUNG GENERATION MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF THEY HAD A SENSE OF UNITY WHICH IS LACKING SO FAR |
| abdifatah | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 11:00 am
munira i agree with everything you said sis
everything you said about somalian people are true. Here in london we have the same people u have describe in your message and people who comit worser sins. i think allah is punishing us for the crimes we have comited against our somalian brothers back in somalia so i ask allah to forgive us all and may be peace with you sister. |
| Bladiac | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 11:01 am
to anonomous:
You dumb ditch, you suppose to write: Get of the net.... Now, who is the dumb bitch. BITCH.....
to Munira:
'No insult', please that's like saying 'You cheap ass white trash get your self a life.'
How tha f!ck do you think he'll take it.
To Mad mac: Damn you polite! Do you mind me asking you; but What are you doing here anyway??
this is about the topic:
Worry about your own damn lives and then about somebody else......
comments please?...... naw naw forget that |
| Cadna | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 12:43 pm
SAY A PARAYER FOR THEM YA'LL,MAY ALL (S.W) BRING BACK THEIR SOULS CAPTURED BY SATAN.
Muniira sis it has something to do with culture shock and primitiveness but in all lets pray for their wellbeing! |
| WARYAA | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 01:09 pm
fuuuck alll y'll diickk sucking HOEZ N GAYYZ..
LEAVE MADMAN ALONE.. hes got valid point..
we are in 2001 FOOOOLLLSSSS.
WE SHOULD MIX & GET TASTE OF BEST...
LEARN SOME FUCKIIING GENETICS.... Y'LL WILL GET
WHAT I MEAN.....
WE NEED flava kids... unlike
BIG ASSSS FAT UGLY SOMALI GIRLS & FOOLISH skinny
faaraxs...
only WAY we can eliminate these is by mixing
Y'LL HEARD.,.
GOD GAVE US another chance.. |
| amatullah | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 05:18 pm
Assalamu alaykum
I think wat sistuh mirina said was rite to a extent. Somalian ppl (not all) degrated themselves by following the western culture.
Sisters as well as brother feel that dating mutil-partners just to show off is cool and will get them somewhere. Obviously they are mistaken.
Where did u culture go, and when i say "culture" i don't mean somalian culture (cause we all know it ant perfect) i mean islamic behaviour. We as muslims have been blessed with a way of life that fits in to every aspect of our life, i think its about time we started applying it.
These kufars already have many misconceptions about islam and behaving in a mannar that is unislamic only adds to it.
Be4 doing anything I stonrgly suggest u think about it and how it will affect ur deen.
And also i see nothing wrong with marrying outside race.....but we must remember not to leave our roots which is ISLAM. The only true source of happniess u'll find in this dunya is with a fellow muslim a practising muslim or muslimah regradless of race
sorry i know there's may errors but am in a rush...
Anything good i said is from Allah swt and anything that misled u is from me and shatain.
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatulilah wa barakatu
your sister in Islam
Amatullah |
| Durgal | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 06:20 pm
Munira excellent observation.
Most people turn to someone else to lead them or help recover their problems, sometimes it is Shaykh, others it is a big brother or sister. Countries and communities are the same, they need someone to step forward to take the lead. In Somalia we had followers not leaders, and now we are paying the price. We need leaders and I will do my share to lead and help the weaker group of somalis. I am determined to advance the common cause. I feel sorry for young people, helping them is a frustrating job which makes you sick and question why you doing it. But other times you say well they are stupid, young and so what. The biggest problem these suckers have is that they don't think or reason at all. You help them they think you awe them. The sooner they are forced to reason and think for their own the better, or else they will happily be reunited with their brothers who were brought here 300 years ago. I would like to encourage all somalis to support anyone who defends the common interest. Don't watch him, step forward and support him as long as he is doing the right thing. Trust yourselves. |
| asad | Friday, February 02, 2001 - 02:00 am
to munira and other concerned ppl.
thank you for your concern sis, that was reaaly touching.
i think the families started the problem by not rising their children in a good way, i mean most of our young ones do not a role model.
TO MADMAC
the lady is expressing her feelings, as somalis we love each other, and this is our way of showing the love between us |
| kamal | Friday, February 02, 2001 - 03:04 am
:-) Asad 1st tell me what you mean by "i think the families started the problem by not rising their children in a good way" ?
Dispite the endless attempts of parents in the UK to bringup their youngones the "good way" eventually they loose the war to be the guide to their children... In the UK, US and Canada
-children wakeup to watch kafir's TV
-they go to a kafir school
-they live amoung kafirs and befriend kafir kids
-they eat in fornt of the TV
-they exist in an un-insparational society that degrades their faith.
Don't even start blaming the parents who is usualy a single mother with between 5-12kids, who may or may not even speak the language.
Before you react, take action and get ride of the TV in your house... Elliminate this nipple that is feeding the youngones poison in their on living rooms, nowadays kids have the Tv in their bedrooms...
In the UK and i am sure in other places too Jewish kids have private schools that cater to their need and i am sure they have a better success rate at achieve ther required level of "good up bringing"
:-) sorry i don't mean to be hard on you but there is a lot that even i can't address on this issue so i hope at least i highlighted something new to you...
Munira we need play a game of numbers if this satuation seems most hopeless, we need to increase the birth rate it is only logical that way we will increase the number good productive somalis... :-)Istakhfurullah
we can but hope and pray for our lost ones, may allah[swt] guide to the right path.
People eventually we must trust Allah[swt] nomatter how much parents do it will never be enough to assure our youngones will end up being rightous.
s/calaykum |
| aalg | Friday, February 02, 2001 - 04:36 am
Very intersting topic, but we have to generilsing all somalis. we know there are problems and also we know we can't solve all of them. As I see it these problems needs to be solved one by one. We know what happened to our people and country and we know people who end up in these counties you mentioned. A mother with no education, no language with many kids, what do you expect from such family? The other thing is we were all new in this parts of world so we did not have much to offer to such families. what happened some did well and got education others are still trying figure out what to do and others went the wrong way. I don't see why we complain always someting we can't do much about it. Let us do what we can do and go on with our lifes by starting one step at a time. Every body should build his/her home. When we get education and then good jobs we will be apple to better than what we are doing right now. Some one mentioned the Jews having their own schools how did they acieved by hard work. Let us not waste our energy and time by blaming each other and analysing what went wrong but let us the the right thing. What is the right?
1) Parents educating their childern ( needs lot of work and time, never give up)
2) young adults who have chance to get education getting and exelling because you have more barriers then the others.
3) After finishing your education getting good jobs and holding it( we know we move a lot).
4) Older people who can work getting jobs and holding. It is more better by having a job. This also show the young generation the value of working.
When we do these individually we can have very strong community. We will build mosques and our own school for our chlidren.
Let us strat today and waste no more time what so ever.
Salaaymu Alykum |
| VERBAL | Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:41 am
IN A NEIGHBORHOOD GHETTO:
VERY DIRTY SCARY PLACE.
IN A SOMALI HOUSE:
FOUR BEDROOM UPSTAIRS, LVING ROOM IN THE MAIN FLOOR AND BASEMENT DOWNSTAIRS.
PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE: ONE MOTHER; ONE FATHER;EIGHT KIDS FROM THE AGE OF 4 TO 19.
ONE TYPICAL DAY:
FATHER HAS TO O TO THE DONUT SHOP AND HE JUST GET A PHONE CALL FROM AFRICA. HIS TRIBE IS FIGHTING BETWEEN THEMSELVES. HE HAS TO SEE HIS OBUDDIES AND SHARE THE NEWS WITH THEM.
MOTHER IS ALWAYS ON THE PHONE IN HER BEDROOM. SHE GOSSIPS AND IS ORGANIZING A SHALOONGO. SHE HAS TO DECIDE WHOSE IS GONNA GET THE NEXT BIG SUM OF MONEY.
HASSAN THE OLDEST IS 19 ,A WEED SMOKING HIGH SCHOOLER, HE SKIPS CLASS REGULARY AND HE BELONGS TO SOME GANG. HE DRIVES AND OLD MUSTANG. HIS HOMMIES ARE WAITING HIM. THEY ARE SOMALI, LATINOS, VIETNAMESE, AND AFRICAN AMERICAN KIDS.
THEN COMES HANNA, SHE JUST TURNED 16 YEARS OLD, SWEET 16...YESTERDAY THEY HAD A WICKED PARTY AT THE BASEMENT. MOTHER CONTRIBUTED SOME MONEY BUT THE WHOLE THING WAGANNIZED BY HANNA, HER BEST FRIENDS MONIQUE AND SHANICE. ALL THE FINE BOYS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COME TO CHECK THIS CUTIES PARTY.
HIP HOP MUSIC, REGGEA AND ALL THAT BOOTY SHAKING WAS ALL GOOD. HANNA GETS A PRESENT FROM HER BUDDIES. THEN HER EX SHOWS UP, EVERY ONE LOOKS AT HIM WONDERING WHAT HE IS DOING THERE? HE IS FINE YOUNG THUG. HE MINGLES WITH HIS GANG. FINALLY HE GOES TO HANNA AND SAYS " HEY BOO I JUST CAME TO SAY HI, YOU KNOW, AND I AM HERE TO MAKE UP WITH U, THEN HE DIGS HIS POCKET AND VOILA A DIAMOND NECKLACE...HANNA'S FACE LIGHTS UP AND SHE GIVES HIM A SMOOTCHIE AND THANKS HIM. HE ASKS HER TO A ONE DANCE...SLOW JAM IS ON. HASSAN IS THE DJ.
H
HIBA IS 14 YEARS OLD, SHE IS BRIGHT YOUNG GIRL, SHE DOES HER HOME WORK EVERY AFTERNOON, SHE NEEDS NO HELP. SHE HELPS OTHERS WITH THEIR HOME WORK. SHE COOKS AND CLEANS THE PLACE. SHE LIKES DAWSON CREEK AND BRITNEY SPEARS, SHE WATCHES MTV ALL THE TIME.
GUULEED IS 13 YEARS OLD, HE IS WILD AND CRAZY. A VERY HYPER ACTIVE KID WHO BEATS HIS YOUNGER SIBLINGS, HE FAILS AT SCHOOL AND ALWAYS IS IN BIG TROUBLE.
HIBAAQ IS JUST 10 YEARS OLD. SHE IS GROWING UP AND SHE IS TALLER AS TALL AS HANNA. SHE IS A AVERAGE KID. SHE LIKES TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORS. HER BEST FRIEND IS KEISHA. KEISHA LIVES WITH HER GRANNIE AND SOMEWHAT SPOILED BUT SHE IS NICE TO HIBAAQ AND SHARES EVERYTHING HER MOTHER, GRAND MOTHER GIVES TO HER. SHE IS GOING WITH KEISHA TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
HUSSEIN IS JUST 8 YEARS, HE IS A HANDICAP. OTHER KIDS DO HIM ALL HE NEEDS. EVERY MORNING MISS WILLIAMS COMES WITH A SPECIAL BUS SCHOOL AND PICKS HIM UP.
MOHAMMED IS 6 YEARS OLD, HE DOES NOT SPEAK ONE WORD OF SOMALI OTHER THAN HOOYO AND BAX. HE IS THE FIRST KID OF THIS LARGE FAMILY WHO WAS BORN HERE. THUS HE IS AUTOMATICALLY A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY. HE WATCHES CARTOONS ALL THE TIME IN THE BASEMENT WITH HIS YOUNGER SIS HODAN.
HODAN IS 4 YEARS OLD, SHE TOO WAS BORN HERE AND HAS THE SAME HOBBY AS HER OLDER BROTHER MOHAMED, THEY BOTH LIKE TO WATCH CARTOONS. SHE ALSO HAS A LARGE COLLECTIONS OF TOYS. A LOT OF BARBIE DOLLS FROM SOME CHARITY GROUP. |
| haji2001 | Friday, February 02, 2001 - 08:19 am
life is a test, most people haven't figured it out yet. its full of temptations and pushing the envelope to explore the limits. special those that have to adjust to new life were conformity is not an issue. the weakest of us fall for temptations.with regard, the rest of us must set an example. |
| abaay | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 03:40 am
salaamacaleykum, munira!!
Abaayo aad iyo aad ayaan ugu farxay markaan aqristey waxaad qortay..
inkastoon oo aan aniga daganeyn mareykanka oo aan joogo yurup. laakiim wax ay is dhaamaan majirto. Oo dhibaaooyinka idinku haysto mareykanka aan anagana nogo haysto yurup, sis.
Dhibkeena wuxuu yahay, sis nimankeena, badidoo, kuli ma kudhahaayo aad iyo aad ayey u jilicsanyihiin. Markey wadamadaan soo galeen, oo ay imaadeen inviroment oo ay aqoon, ayey is dhigteen. waa iloobeen in ay yihiin NIMAN oo laga rabo ayaka in ay kacaan, oo ay wax bartaan ama shaqeystaan ideey ilmahooda iyo xaasaskooda u sappotgareynlahaayeen.
Nagaheenana waa halaabeen oo sidii hooyo fiican u ahaan jirney ey ayakana iloobeen, oo sidee ninkeeda iyo familkeeda waxa ka dhaxdhacaa ulasocoleheed iyo sideey loving and carin wife u ahaan leheyd.
Soo it is sad, laakiin anaga hadaan isi guubaaminin soomaali majireyso, laqan majiraayo iyo diinba.
So waxaan ALLAh ka baryaayaa in uu sidaan noodhaamo oo naga soo gaaro...
Salaamacaleykum walaalayaal.. |
| Durgal | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 03:50 pm
Verbal that was sad but well written. I advise you to use your creative talents wisely. You can become a great writer, you have everything it takes. |
| layla | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 01:55 am
asalaamu calaykum to all
to waryaa &mad mac
first of all bro dont insult somali wamen like that cuz the men aint no better as they also have huge stomach's like they are nine months pregnantor something and really thin lex with fucking fat ass.
secondly by hearing what munira siad u should at least felt a little ashamed of ur self...........
ofcourse i dont agree that we shouldnt marry non somali's but it is true that we sux big time and we are the only ones without a peacful country............. can i ask u 1 q
have u ever experienced what it is like to stand infornt of the whole class and bieng asked what somalia produces and what things we export and when u didnt know what to say every single student laughted at u.........
well bro it is time u wake up and see that u r not fucking american and that u will always be poor somali man
hope u get the picture
oh to mr white wanna be mad mac dont u think u r in the wrong chennl since u r not somali
layla (17) |
| layla | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 01:55 am
asalaamu calaykum to all
to waryaa &mad mac
first of all bro dont insult somali wamen like that cuz the men aint no better as they also have huge stomach's like they are nine months pregnantor something and really thin lex with fucking fat ass.
secondly by hearing what munira siad u should at least felt a little ashamed of ur self...........
ofcourse i dont agree that we shouldnt marry non somali's but it is true that we sux big time and we are the only ones without a peacful country............. can i ask u 1 q
have u ever experienced what it is like to stand infornt of the whole class and bieng asked what somalia produces and what things we export and when u didnt know what to say every single student laughted at u.........
well bro it is time u wake up and see that u r not fucking american and that u will always be poor somali man
hope u get the picture
oh to mr white wanna be mad mac dont u think u r in the wrong chennl since u r not somali
layla (17) |
