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RELIGION, SEX, AND POLITICS

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (Before Feb. 16, 2001): RELIGION, SEX, AND POLITICS
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OBIWAN

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 08:51 am
Why are people fascinated with what other people do in regards to their religion ? If I see a Muslim who drinks it does not bother me. I really don't care what another person does with their life. As long as it does not intrude on my personal rights, they can do what they like.
SERIOUSLY, I am getting fed up of hearing people who collect money trying to bail out a Somali criminal. I heard of a man who was convicted on sexual assault. All of a sudden, people began collecting money to bail him and get him a good lawyer. Word on the street is that he has had similar accusations in the past. It seems many Somalis forget that SOMALIS CAN BE CRIMINALS, PEODPHILES, etc. I say let these bastards rot in jail. If u commit a crime, u do the time.
Sex.... Somalis have a major obsession on sex. They hardly speak about it in person but 90% of postings here deal with sex. Whats wrong if a person decides to have premarital sex ? It is a matter of personal choice and no one has the right to judge them.
Politics, Somalis and politics.... Do we really have politics in Somalia ? I see what happens there as mere barbaric Civil war tit for tat fighting. WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR ????
Once it was to Overthrow Siyaad ?
DONE.
What Next ?
It seems the so called Leaders have been fighting for so long that they forgot what they were fighting for. This Qabiil business is being blown out of proportion. Does Qabiil provide education, healthcare, social services ? It does nothing to advance its members.

OBIWAN

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caydaruus

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 08:56 am
true,,,,, is my Qabiil gonna buy me home, help me out when am in trouble? they probably don't even know if i excist or not.
then why fight for the moda fuckaz.

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Basra

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 09:36 am
Obiwan loool

I have to agree with you whole heartdly.Wallahi this is pathetic.For instance in Minnesota there was a guy who killed his wife by stabbing her at the Mall of america.According to my aunt;who lives there she siad the idiot followed the girl to the mall and waited for her to come out,then he stabed her 9 TIMES.Thats not only the shocker;THEN his qabil ; 'Cuumar Maxmood of Marjeerten made a donation of a sum of 100,000.00 to get him a good lawyer.That convict idiot is now serving a sentence of 'Man slaughter' which is like a a total SHOCK and injustice.It should have been first degree murder,premeditated.The man slaughter has a minimum of 1o years but with good behavior he could be out under 6 years.I'm like totally disgusted.

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OBIWAN

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 10:31 am
Basra, a $100,000 can build in Somalia:
Three School Buildings: $20,000
6 Teachers Salaries: 7,200
Books, Supplies: 4,000
School meals: 6,000
Clean Water well: 10,000
Clinic Building: 10,000
Medical Staff Salaries: 25,000
Reserve Cash: 17,800

IMPACT ON LOCAL POPULATION: PRICELESS

The $100,000 would do wonders for the
local population. You will have saved
a whole generation of young people instead
of one sick man.

OBIWAN

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Basra

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 01:17 pm
Obiwan lool


Those economic budgets are precise.looool but i wish that money could have gone to the father and mother of the girl.I feel they needed some sort of compasation from the lost of their daughter.These somali who donated the money should have a common sense.I find it deplorable.It's a clear message that somali community is Malists (opposite of feminist).Regarding women as second class citizens.Did they ever say -"Hey can we call the victim's mother and say we are sorry?'

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Anonymous

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 02:16 pm
So?

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Anonymous

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 02:21 pm
BASRA : YOU AND YOUR AUNT BOTH OF YOU NEED TO STOP GOSSIPING AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINES.ALL YOU KNOW IS CALL EACH AND TALK TALK TALK .GOSSIP.

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Anonymous

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 02:24 pm
BASRA : YOU AND YOUR AUNT BOTH OF YOU NEED TO STOP GOSSIPING AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINES.ALL YOU KNOW IS CALL EACH AND TALK TALK TALK .GOSSIP.

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malka

Friday, February 09, 2001 - 04:43 pm
The magical formula is never discuss the following with among friends:

-sex
-politics
-religion

I guess there are no friends in this place :( ...


":() yo, you broke you own rule 101%... check you mensioned all three things you were agains... your arguements is weaker as a result.

I wonder if you could have expressed yourself as well if you used a different name for each... give it another try???

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Honesita

Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 10:03 am
Basra.......sis i dont think somali community is malist!!! I live in Columbus Ohio......and about couple of months ago......this somali lady beat her only daughter almost to death.......she abused the girl.......i cant even type the stuff she did to her........they r so unimaginable.....but anyway.....the lady was havin' problems with her husband and so she took it out on the little girl......i honestly find it very insane for a mother to do such things to her daughter.......anyhow......she was in jail and her tribe.....Cumar Maxamud also.....collected money for her to get her a lawyer and stuff......i think she's out of jail now......

I wonder......did somaliis used to do the same thingz in somalia.........i mean if some1 killed some1.....did they go to jail or what!!??

adios

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Asha

Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 10:20 am
Basra and Honesita,

You can still get your points across without mentioning which tribe these people belong to...it's useless information, it draws people's attention to that, instead of your message.
Just a suggestion sisters. Peace.

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saadiq supporter

Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 11:40 am
Basra:

The Cumar Maxamuud to their eternal shame let the boy down. They should have smuggled the lad out of the country quick. Even 6 years in the Pen is too long. With the hundred thousand they could have bought him false passports or smuggled him to Mexico or wherever. No way I would leave a Somali person to the tender mercies of American injustice system. The boy made a mistake and should be judged by god not an American wanker of judge.

Peace on all of you

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Cooler

Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 03:40 pm
Salaam Folks

Hello Basra and Honestsis cheap Dogs you change the topic tribe issue.

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Honesita

Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 04:37 pm
Asha & Cooler.....so is to mention ppl's tribe a sin nowadayz...........i dont understand u pple walaahi!!!

I have no 'cuqdad' towards any tribe.....my moma has raised me betta than that......besides, more than half of my family r CM....the guy Basra was talkin' about is my second uncle.....and the lady in columbus is a relative.........!!!

I made a mistake......the lady i was talkin' about........she got sentensed to jail for 2 years........she's not out!!!

SadiqSupporter.............how could u say that bro..............when his family collected money for him......they should've given it to the girl's family...........crime is crime bro......no matter where u commit it.....he should've thought about it twice....imagine if the girl was ur sister....!...Islamicly......he should be judged as the rules in the country he/she lives at!! Am i right or what??

adios

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cc

Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 11:34 am
so who cares if you are somali or not

you commit a crime and you should the time
adioas

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mnpls-gaalkacyo

Monday, February 12, 2001 - 11:40 am
SAADIQ SUPPORTER & BASRA.... BRING IT ON MORE..
HATING ON US CUMAR MAHMOOD, & SPREADING THESE PROPAGANDAS....
ANYWAYS...,I LIKED HOW U SOUNDED IS SO REAL..., BUT THE TRUTH IS U STILL WAY TOO FAR TO REACH US BASRA WITH THESE CLAIMS...
DON'T HATE CUMAR MAHMOOD PPL CAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES ACTUALLY SEEN & WORKING FOR BETTERMENT IN mnPLS..
TILLL THEN CIAO HATERS.....
BYE

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Basra

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 03:48 pm
Asha

You are so right.I am sorry lool the Qabil adjective just came out without my intention.You are right the issue will be cross covered.The issue is ..where is the justice of the girl?
supporter of Saddiq

WHo is Saddiq anyway? Anyway You are not a good LAd. lol Irish somali.loool

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Moh_Luv

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 04:37 pm
another Qabil gossip at hand... boy! somali ppl and clanism... !
Basra & Honest<<<< u know there are other wayz to get the point across without actn qabilestayaal!
Look, i am CM myself and whatever has been done MNPls, i have no clue to it ( cuz i dont live there)...but by generalizing CM... u include my poor innocent soul as well...
and i have nothin to do with it!!!
yah, i do agree if that happened.. just do have taken its place>> murdered person(girl's parents) compensated and killr serve his time!
ON THE OTHR HAND.... I HAVE HAD OTHER CASES INVOLVING OTHER CLANS... BUT I DONT THINK ITS RIGHT TO JUGDE THEM ALL!!

MUCH LUV TO SOM PEEPZ!!
KEEP DIS WORLD QABIL-FREE!

moh_luv

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saadiq supporter

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 04:37 pm
Basra:

Do you who I am? Iam not Irish I am the guy you hate the most on Somalinet!!! yes that guy,

And don't call me geek,please.

Saadiq is the Killer in Minnesota I knew him in Toronto and he was a very good lad. The nicest guy. I guess the love overpowered him. So cut the guy some slack.

Honesisa:

I know the girl should be compensated but that does not mean we have to subject the kid to Amercan injustice. The two ideas are not mutually exclusive.

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Honesita

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 06:27 pm
Moh_Luv......brotha brotha brotha.....even though i dont know ya, i got so much respect 4 ya.....
But please dont missunderstand me here...i was no critisizin' CM or generalizin'....i did not mention the CM thing cuz i was tellin' ya'll to look at what they're doin'.....momma would kill me.....and i simply know betta than that.....i was just sayin' it....how can i say it........bad somaliis have influenced me i guess......and besides....who da hell am i to judge on a whole tribe.....so pls dont call me a qabyaaliste.....cuz i know i'm NOT!!!!

SaadiqSupporter......lol..........well the girl is in the care of her dady and his new wify..(who ran away recently from the guy)....dont worry about them......but worry about how that lady is gonna feel after 10 years.....when her daughter is 16 and asks her Why did u do this to me Hooyo!!!!? I wonder if she's gonna call her hooyo!!!

adios

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HAteR-GiRL

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 12:14 pm
hater girl don't like to talk about QABILL sh*t
and if i do you what is that gonna do with me
is gonna make me hate every1,Normaly i dont:O
i don't wanna do that don't make meeeeeeeeeeee


hate $ love
later peepz

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HAteR-GiRL

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 12:15 pm
hater girl don't like to talk about QABILL sh*t
and if i do you know what is that gonna do with me
is gonna make me hate every1,Normaly i dont:O
i don't wanna do that don't make meeeeeeeeeeee


hate $ love
later peepz

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Basra

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 01:18 pm
looooolXoogsade

The guy changed because of LOve? That is not Love.lol
And i dont feel like caling you geek today.lol

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UNICORN

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 01:24 pm
TO Basra!
I thought you dident know anything about qabiil,according to some story you wrote a while ago,just wondering..

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Bug

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 02:10 pm
looooooooooooooool hater gal
don't make me do that Funny,,,,,,,,,,,,lol

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Basra

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 02:46 pm
Unicorn

I really dont know.Ok maybe i know a little.But its not a huge part of my life.Every somali knows some tiny information about qabil.lol The only problem is,you should not allow your world to be engulfed in it.Do i make any sense? lool

**********


Xoogsade so you knew that killer?I noticed you said 'was' a good guy.Does the offense he commited affect your persepective of him? I'm not like a reporter or anything. loool

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Alipapa

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 02:50 pm
Obiwan,

Man! i can't agree with you more all the damn things you wrote down.

Basra,

I see you genderizing the issue. Wouldn't be just great if you would have kept your feminist agenda to yourself?.

Asha and all Omar Mohamuud out there,


True, that Basra and others could tell the story without telling the person's clan. But then again why it is bothering you when the information is true?. Do you want us to hide the true information?. Is mentioning clan taboo?. Please note you people showed us deep sickness from heart. If someone does crime and others mention his/her clan, that doesn't mean the clan of criminal is disrespected. I am sure you guys were proud if the murderer or this abusive woman would have won the lotery. you have said "oh yeah, he/she my first cousin. He she such cuteeeeee" even if he/she 15th cousin and ugliest dude among all mankind.

And Basra shouldn't backing down to your comment. there was nothing wrong with mentioning the his clan. Yes, she could have told the damn story without mentioning his damn Omar Mohamood thing. But then again, mentioning his clan makes us to believe that Basra knows what the heck she was talking about.
people stop this sickness. Couple or maniacs can't make Omar Mohamood look worse than other clans.


Alipapa

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