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Censorship is Necessary to clean this Place ........If Somalinet cares our Reputation

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (Before Mar. 13, 2001): Censorship is Necessary to clean this Place ........If Somalinet cares our Reputation
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Ice-Man

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 10:09 am
I am Amazed how many idiots are Floating this Site, Telling one another their private life style, and demanding Advice for their garbage Topics,but my problem is not Those Dumb bastards who have a nothing good to say. But Those who created this site mainly "Somalinet" cares Quantity rather than Quality, I Think Somalinet is putting our people before the world to show other people how filthy and lowdown we have became by Allowing this garbage to continue, on this Site.

I am not Asking Somalinet to preach morality but they can safe guard on this site and clean the mess that's happening here, Remember its better to have an empty house that's neat and few Allah fearing can visit,
Don't be scare that if you became very restrict you will lose Audience, don't be afraid come down harder and remove their topics those who are immoral immediately,that's the only way you can safe guard your Site.

Here is some Topics that made me wonder why Somalinet is not removing.

1. I am inlove my sister's husband.
2. Ten things I hate Somali menz.
3. cheap not so clean.
4. I don't trust my wife.
5. marcuito is Bitch.
6.who is the hottest Guy in seattle or Girl
7. To All women you can go to hell.
8. Best Actor of All time.
9. what's the best wedding you ever been to seattle.
10. The hottest girl in seatown.
11. Why Somalian guys are horrible in bed.
12. why does Bill clinton made me hot.
13. The battle of the sexiest can you handle the truth.
14. I am so curious ice-man. Sorry who ever posted I didn't liked it.
15. why African American are ugly.

The List of garbage goes really it will take the whole page to write, Here is my Question what's the relevant on This dead and counter-productive Topics to post here???? why Somalinet is Allowing this filthy to continue?? what do they gain? Please don't give me a freedom of speech crap, Freedom of speech has a responsibilities, you don't defame a whole community by not cleaning this mess, most of you don't know how many non Somalis who visit here, anyone who can access a computer can visit here and observe this mess.

Think before you post then make your own conclusion if what you are posting, worth of reading,
I used to be tolerant but have come across more and more of this type of "in your face" Trash. All my Tolerance is gone.

Later

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gadflie

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 10:28 am
What morgue did they drag you out of? You stuttering, feeble minded, colostomy eating maggot.

No wonder your butthole is crusty, you have spent too much time behind bars to even recognize what a conversation is.

Get off the bong man and get an education you putrid bag of whale excrement Only when you and your sister get a divorce will the world be spared more of your inbred genes from polluting the homo-sapien species.

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Sirrus

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 10:56 am
Gadflie.

That was uncalled for. Everybody has an opinion.

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Dogstar

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 11:22 am
Sirrus

hypocrite

Galflee too just used his right to counter the verbal exchange of strikes... would you,like him to drop his tongue and let others strike him verbaly??

If that was the case then i must object to your statement and ask you to refrain from further involvement!

Judgemental punks a55 fags trying to control the topics!!! what the hell is this freedom to preach... no it is spelt speech... brothers... it makes the difference between MAN and APE... cos apes too have opinions just that they swolled their bloody tongue while blowing one of you judges... hehehe

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Ice-Man

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 12:39 pm
Its very Ironic an education will make you a Substanceless gadfly as your name says "Gadflie" You proven my point, People like you should not be on Somalinet. ....Remember anyone can use few bad words If that makes you an Educator. :-)
Later

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Anonymous

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 12:50 pm
ice man

i have only one complain.Quit the 'Later' you keep puttin at the end of every nonsense comments you post.Ok? Thank you.

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Just a thought

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 04:17 pm
Ice Man
In any society there are bound to be people who are different either in the way they express themselves or behave. There is no real need to censor people's comments as somalinet used to do just over a year ago. We have come along way from that censorship i would not like to see more of it. It should be left to the individual to sort himself/herself up. Furthermore even though it might look as if the forums contributers have gone nuts, it should be pointed out that by and large the contributers are young and up coming who do not mean any harm. The way they express themselves is a refletion of the societies they leave in. The only problem is that those who have come of age are instead of showing the rest the right path are themselves joining the sea current.

However that said, Somalinet just as the judges ruled in a napster case should take their obligation to do house cleaning occassionally albeit to retain serious contributers who are repelled by the use of vulger language.

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Honesita

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 04:39 pm
I dont understand why u guys r disagreein' with the brotha......
This place is becoming a JUNK.....who da hell cares who's da cutest in seattle or canada....and so what if they r good looking....ha umacaanaato...
The other thing that just makes me so damn mad is da ignorant war goin' on between ninxoon and his crew and carmel and her crew.......is it that much fun to practice the words ESL teacher didnt allow in class!!!
All da brotha suggested was for Somalinet webmaster's to control who and what posts here.....cuz we r freakin' representing somali pple......for god's sake....
Since when do somaliis have non muslims...and since when do they preach to us about thier religions....and since when did we start doubting Islam as a relgion......
So many topics that have no freakin' sense r up in this forums.....and we dont need to think 2wice about if we wanna see them or not!! If ya'll have some serious $hit u wanna talk about.....bring it on......but pls...if u aint got a life....dont punish us!!!!

I used to check whats new in the forums in class everyday.........and this white guy that sits next to me used to read with me sometimes.....but nowadayz...walaahi i'm ashamed to open it up!! Why......ya'll dont need to ask that..!!!

adios

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Sirrus

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 08:24 pm
My hat is off to you Honesita

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modey

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 12:45 am
Honesita

Kiss-My-Yo

Sister and that will sound to you what ever your mind lets it to...you ain't no saint!

Don't forget, most here are jus passing time...some of us don't live in Moqadisco central aight... surounded by a sea of blancos...

So take it easy... sinorita... bonita... chikita

noi deika...

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Mo_Luv

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 01:58 am
I agree 100% with Ic-Man. Damn its like this place has become full of garbage posting and unworthy remarks!!
I wonder who runs Somalinet? ....am askn this b'cuz these ppl obvoously dont care about the reputation of somali ppl.
Like Honestsista has said, THIS IS HOW PPL ARE JUDGING SOMALI PPL.. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'R NO MORE THAN FREAKS AS THIS SITE SUGGESTS !!
from the way i see it.... somali ppl dont appreciate no more than name calling and insults. Guyz...for those of u who aint aware of this.... this is a World Wide Web<<<< ppl across da globe access it and can easily judge for themselves what somali ppl are actually based on!
YO LISTEN UP...IF SOMALINET CREW CARE 'BOUT SOMALIZ...THEY WOULDN'T LET THIS POSTS HERE... SO I GUESS ITS UPTO US SOMALI PPL TO THINK AGAIN AND NOT POST THOZ STUPID "SPEECHES":O

this place was fun for God's sake... where did they release thez undeveloped minds from? now we have a clear proof what weed/speed can do some unlucky brain!~~
keep in mind...>>>> WHATEVER U POST HERE.... U WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IN A DAY THAT IS SURE TO COME(Doom's Day) !!

MUCH LUV TO SOMALI PEOPLE !

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Guilty

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 03:26 am
You know what , i think the somalinet are also part of this since they support some of this stupid topic's.

If they don't support they can delete but they didn't.

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Anonymous

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 03:30 am
I agree with ice-man 100% this place is full of garbage.

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A Sister

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 03:36 am
Ice Man I'm with you on this.

It's embarrassing to see what a useless lot we've painted ourselves to be - and wonder if we are truly like that and NOT the noble lot my parents talk about. What amazes me is that very few Somalis would conduct themselves like this in person in public (i.e. community get-together, at home with family, at weddings etc).

However, here where the audience is potentially the world, they loose all sense of pride, preservation, conduct and decorum hiding behind aliases and a SOMALI curtain.

This reflects poorly on the rest of us.

Like you Ice-man, I'm also wondering why it is that Somalinet have not acted on removing some ‘discussions’? what interest they gain from keeping these postings up and finally and who owns Somalinet. As like you say, it’s most DEFINITELY NOT in the best interest of SOMALIS to be portrayed negatively.

The only option open to us is to counteract these Topics with more meaningful ones and refrain from commenting on the likes that u mentioned..

In the Long run, it may mean avoiding the use of Somalinet altogether, as more and more adult and respectful individuals will choose to connect with likeminded people at new sites that cater for them (us).

A sister

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Arawello

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 03:38 am
Ice-man,

I agree with you bro.
The topics listed are very distressful, and beleave me I once lon on Somlainet in front of forieng freinds and I saw ''.....'' I cannot tell you the title.

Yes, cencorship.

Yours siter Arawello

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Anonymous

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 03:43 am
Ice man stop complimenting yourself with other names.

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DrWho

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 06:24 am
Salamu ALaikum,

This issue is very consequential one, and I am glad someone has raised it. I have send an email to the administration of Somalinet notifying them what is really taking place in this ethical " use to be ethical, I suspect it is other way round now" forums. But to my surprise I have yet to receive an email from them. I think it will be quite safe for me to presuppose that they did not receive that email due to technical problem.

Anyhow, there are numerous non-Somali visitors who witness these abhorrent and ribald posts. And what does these silly and un-erudite things convey from our community?. It really peeves me off great deal.

Please let us civilise ourselves and not write whatever comes to our un-protected minds.#

And thanks to the Gen... who have raised this important point, I hope Somalinet will heed our cry of decency.

DrWho
London

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Anonymous

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 06:38 am
DrWho

Stop preaching civilisation when you dont really understand the core meaning of it.Part of being civilised is to have the freedom to express anything that comes to our minds.It is your position as a civilised person to reject or accept what you see fit to the amusement of your eyes.In other words-Hit the road jack when you see something you dont like.Censorship would only create surpression and will break the fundamental of Democracy which we have received from the Western society not the Somali Society.If you need conservative and Dictatorship lifestyle,Get back to somalia;there you will see people who have a lot in common with you.The same goes to Cave-Man.Bon Voyage to Somalia!

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Hanan

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 06:55 am
I don't think censorship is the answer, because where do you draw the line? Not everyone will agree on what is offensive. Don't get me wrong I agree wholeheartedly that a lot of garbage is posted here but guess what? That's what people are responding to. Ice man, the topics you mentioned (i.e I'm in love with my siter's husband/ cheap & clean etc) they also happen to be the boards with the highest number of postings. Now you may not like what that says about us, but that's the reality of our people. The messages, the ideas, the muck and mire of Somalinet are all representative of our people.

But I think the solution to getting rid of these messages is very simple...do not respond....
Not even to tell them to get a life or that they are stupid.I think people have figured out by now that if they start a topic about say globalization, 2 people will respond, but if they say something sensational... everyone will.

Oh and by the way, Somalinet is not a non-profit organization, they are a business and as such their #1 priority is to make money...through advertisements, so it wouldn't really be to their best interest to turn people away through censorship.

Peace

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yedom

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 01:23 pm
Perfect solution is delete everything... once every week...

So we can all bloody repeat our selves every other week...

Do i have to break everything down to pieces so you nunus can swollow???

That which is said is allowed to expand out of the mind of it's owner and be disarmed without causing any mental health to the inventor...

Wakeup this is the future of psyciatory...somanet has become a mental health institute...

..........WELCOME TO THE SHRINKS.COM.............

This place is saving the government a lot of money... :O

Talk is cheap... all anti-freedom fighters should logoff immediately and never come back again... ever heard of demand and supply... people want dirt, scum, filt... this is a launderate!!! if you have no washing go away... hehe...

You know what you guys are right, the world is watching the somali mind at work... lets put on a good show... KISS-MY-YO...i bet OPERA logs on to read "somali woman at their best"... this is not not not computing...

OOOoooooooffffffffffffffffff

Guess what i visited an ethiopian forums and they have zero activity in their bloody forumss...

They too smart... they chat and go... leaving no finger prints... it is somali style to always leave behind a calling card... and go and brag about it latter... return a week later and and start preaching the imorality of others who have followed in his/her/shehe's footsteps...

Guess what the martians are also reading...

so what?


who cares?

do you even have a country?

do you even have an image to protect?

Be like that IMAN i'm not somali... prostitutes...

Spread you a55 then cry fawl when john doe stick his walking stick up you rectum....

HORNISITA talking about her friend reading with her, so that is how it is played what else does he do while so close to you... look down your chest and measure your mellons???

Honestly some people have the nerve to speak... let alone think!!!

It is like telling someone "your breath sticks dude" when yours is sh*ty as hell...

Don't hate cos i just woffled my way through this whole speech...i don't even care about its direction or the greater implication of my statements or thus thus thus...

shut up you Puti...

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Gadfly

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 01:53 pm
Talking about mental institutions, when exactly were you released?

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moyed

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 03:22 pm
hahahahaha

i am still there...

just check the times i a min here...


24/7

hehe

galfly what attracts you to fawl smelling place and flytraps??? hmmm

ponder over that matey... i can't solve it!!!

hctib stnaw ot erocs eno ffo em yb gnitlusni ym ecnegilletne, og yawa nam i tnod llems!!!

teg a efil!

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Jama-Deen

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 03:49 pm
I was shocked to read some of these posts. Do you guys know that parents read these posts too. And guess what? Parents were like these wild A55es too when they were that age. :-)

It is part of the development process for one to mature but if there is balance then the young ones have a goal to reach as they develop. There is no need for censorship because these wild ones will change soon and then ask themselves ...how could I have acted so stupidly...? The good thing is that they are begining to communicate and their communication will refine with time. So have patience with some people but point out to them when they are wrong and then they will have a choice.

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SOMALINET ATTORNEY

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 07:11 pm
Hi everyone, Mmmm did you say censor? did you say Somalinet is a liability? Here's my client's argument:

1- Somalinet has done something that no one had done before by attracting somalis of all walks, backgrounds and geographical locations.

2- Because of this place, you are now interacting with one another. Again, thanks to Somalinet.

3- Because of somalinet, you have virtually hundreds of categories and thousands of topics to choose from. In my case, time @ somalinet is well spent.

4- Because of somalinet, there are many more good articles than the ones you are complaining about.

5- because of somalinet, you made online friends, some of you even made girl-friends, boyfriends and spouses. In my case I met my last 2 g-friends @ Somalinet.

6- Because of Somalinet, you are here reading my 2 cents.

I think you all owe a BIG apology and respect to somalinet. Honestly, the only problem is that many somalinet users are newbies to the net and don't know anything about net culture.

My advice to my dear client, somalinet would be to aducate our nomadic people rather than censor their opinions. Why don't you create a site called "Net Etiquette" or "From ak74 to Online Experience"

I know countless of people who badmouth somalinet and cannot stay away from it. Plz let's give credit where it is due. Some of somalinet's critics are simply jealous of its populairity.

I rest my case.

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wanaagsane

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 11:47 pm
Ice-man

bro, you raise a good point!

I decided never to comment anything on somalinet because of the under-average nature of the so-called discussions. But I feel that I have an obligation to contribute to0 your noble discussion.

Having said that, i am against the use of censorship because I am a supporter of free-speech. You may recall that censorship is one of the few reasons why somalis are scattered all over the world. This nonsence on somalinet can be partly attributed to the censorship our ppl were subjected to. If you control the free-word you will get nasty words. It is sort of backfiring.

Well, i have one suggestion and that is the "sane" should refrain from writing on somalinet ...and by doing this only cheap crap will be written...and my own humble opinion is that this site will be called "Crapnet" instead of somalinet.

To all those of you who think that they can come away with insulting others, blasphamay and use un-acceptable harrassment....keep in mind ...big brother is watching, and with today's technique you will be caght sitting in fron of your pc.

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candy-man

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 02:30 am
to iceman
i couldn't agree with you more.
but will somalinet admins take notice of what u saying
i doubt it

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MULKI

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 03:00 am
I agree with most of you, but that lawyer has a point too. You are blaming the site for some ignorant people's actions. I see this place like a kitchen knife, you can use it both ways.

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LondonBoy

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 04:24 am
Salaama calykum

It seems to me that we are foregetting simple concept here, majority of the somali ppl are muslim and may i say good muslims.

By letting ignorant ppl post masseges that they experienced or heard from the SOAP OPERAS OR TALK SHOWS, it going to put dought into other young ppl who might have weak iimaan.

Also since we are all muslims, we have to follow the Quran and the Sunnah of the prophet SAW. So this talk of freedom of speech and democracy is futile.

Alot of the borthers and sisters who responded to Ice-Man's messege, have been infiltrated by those teachers in high school that purpusfully preached to them ' anti-islam' so they developed westren KUFAR attitudes and now right pretty english thinking they are educated.

What about the AKHIRA, what have you done for it.

Brothers and sisters we should be preaching good not bad. And forbiding evil. as mentioned in ayat from the quran.

Somalinet has a unique oppurtunity to inform young somali ppl about openings in education and employment, whilst at the same time pointing out what the KUFAR attitudes are, and the bestway in this world and the hereafter is the muslim way.

We should'nt compete and follow the social problems of the KUFAR, because we have our own problems, may allah make it easy for us, AMIN.
wasalaamu calaykum

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IGNORE

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 06:13 am
How about simply ignoring all the non-sense postings.

Trust me you'll make all those "attention seekers" mader than they are.

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mydoe

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 06:30 am
haha they speak... why don't we just all stop posting in here...period?

Look a little exchange of insult is good for the soul...(devil in me speaks) :O... what i want to say is basically you dodow's should comeup with interesting topics that will take the attension from the bad threads... is that hard to achieve you pencil necked freaks???

You all need verbal viagra... can't get anyone contriputing to your silly threads and you wana come hand down you superiority defficience and get all of us to act inferior.... psssss i'll spare you the joy you get out of being insulted...

Lead by example you wofflers...

get out and don't contripute to bad threads...period. it is not as if anyone forces you to enter...

May be thread should all excess by invitation only??? hey only those you allow to post wil post...

Is that not? what an email is like... this is a forums... not a email... get....get...get...

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rose

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 08:14 am
i agree with ice man, there should be freedom of expression but these people are taking things too far. it's quiet sad really.

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Hate ice-man club

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 12:04 pm
Gadflie

lol@you man good point!

Ice-man

Take your stinking self out of this forums and take your filthy mother with you. How many times have i not seen you insult different clans and people?? more than hundred times faggot ass!

Ice man You are a filthy little bastard go learn what democracy means, everybody is not like your dead father siad barre, we value freedom of speech if you do not like it go join Afweyne in his grave and take your dirty grandmother with you Bitch ass nigger!!!

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NINXOON

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 12:27 pm
I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH CENSORSHIP IN A FREE SOCIETY...I THINK EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS AND VIEWS...YOU MIGHT DISAGREE BUT THAT 'S OK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO.....AFTER ALL THIS THE LAND OF THE FREE..OR IS IT?!

HONESTA
THANKS YOU FOR THE LOVE...NOW I KNOW WHO MRS.STEVENSON MY E.S.L TEACHER MEANT WHEN SHE SAID TO ME "SON GO AND GET THEM BITCHES"
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE FEELINGS ARE MUTUAL..

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cat

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 04:07 pm
some of this people should be banned from using the somalinet services for a week, that should teach them a lesson to stop the non-sense.

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Jaciir

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 06:11 pm
There is no freedom of speach on this world, its (JAAHILIYATIL QARNIll WAAXID WACI-SHIRIIN).

One the other hand Somalinet people profitting a lot of money, just by visiting alot of posters. As one here pointed out how you draw the line? what is acceptable or not?

When it comes somalian reputation on the net that is not a problem almost all forumss are filthy and disgusting as same as here.

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Hawiye

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:48 am
Ice man is motherfucker dhulbahante but he made a good point on somalinet, I have been loyal to somalinet for quite some time now and that I no longer will be, freedom of speech only applies to that speech which is approved. liberalism is revealing itself for what it truly is -fascism Death To Daarod and Death to Freedom of Speech

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SIRRUS

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 08:01 am
HERE GOES THE CLANISTIC ROLLA COASTER.
EVERYBODY FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELT
KEEP YOUR HANDS INSIDE THE CART AT ALL TIME
THIS IS GONNA BE A LONG AND BUMBY RIDE

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Anonymous

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 04:44 pm
Hawiye nacalaa ku dhalaye magaca hanooga cayaarin

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Ice-Man

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 12:03 am
Faqash oo dun ana wada kufsada. dabadeed hashiishkan ku ridaa. disposable condoms. :).

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Ice-Man

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 10:50 am
Hi. Guys It's really sad, Indeed very sad when Imposters can't debate or challenge any one's argument but anxious to pretend and disgrace other people their nick names.

Listen Idiot Ice-man wanna be, I can tell, You are growing man, act like one and behave your own good, People who come here aren't stupid like you, they can tell your disgrace words,

To.
People who responded this discussion , most of you made a good points but This forums is Hopeless really beyond any repair, Take care All.

Later

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nasrodiin

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 12:42 pm
TO ice man.

bro some how i agree your points so many comments you posted, but i have onother disagree with you pls we are free society our media are free don't forget that let ppl say what ever they want say even though is nonesense no one like to hear his dumbs or some one says you are not smart.

we all live different one another and accepted who we are so pls don't nervous and don't charge them too allah has given his chance those who behave like kufar saying what ever they say kufar eventhough he/she still beliving his religon so
watch out and ignore the selfpoorness ppl.

by nasrodiin.

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