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Lesbians sentenced to death in Somalia for unnatural behaviour.

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Somali-Psycho

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 04:21 am
Lesbians sentenced to death in
Somalia for unnatural behaviour'

MOGADISHU Two lesbians who passed themselves off as husband and wife
have been sentenced to death by a court in Somalia's northeast port city of
Bossasso, the Qaran daily newspaper reported yesterday.

The two, whose names have been withheld by the court, were convicted of
"exercising unnatural behaviour", the paper said.

The pair were tried under Somali criminal punishment law, which is loosely based
on Islamic Sharia law. Bossasso is located in Puntland, a region that declared
itself autonomous from Somalia in August 1998 and has since set up its own
administrative infrastructure. Capital sentences have rarely been carried out in
Puntland. When they are, a firing squad is used. Sapa-AFP.

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Ciiserooti

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 04:58 am
Bravo, Bravo Puntland!!!!!!!!! two thumbs up. Let this be a lesson to the faggot-wanna-be Somalis.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 05:41 am
This is a pure Lie.This only unveils your homosexual tendercies and fantasies.Go to hell fags.

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Somali-psycho

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 05:53 am
Anonymous!!! You recognise yourself???
Go to the following URL...and see it for yourself
http://www.bday.co.za/bday/content/direct/1,3523,796246-6098-0,00.html

Or just go to Djibnet.com

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Anonymous

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 06:54 am
Psycho
That paper is unreliable.Look at the length of coverage.It shows little bits of various african country news.The source is questionable.First of all there was no mention of the Name of the paper which wrote the article.There was only an infference of 'the paper reported'.Secondly,the begining of the article stated,Mogadhishu.It appeared the person writing the article even confuses Mogadhishu and Bossaso,which i believe the the inccident originated .I will make further research,you can count on me.Meanwhile puta hault of this White disease gabbage you are spreading and spoiling the name of our sisters.
The entire article has numorous unscruples.It is yet another illegal,factless internet gabbage.End Quote.

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source

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 07:21 am
The paper is the same one that published a story about a woman who ate her daughter.
Funding for tabloid type news is courtesy of the so called DKMG government.
Anything goes when people want to insult the Mighty Majeerteen.

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MJ

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 08:20 am
MAJEERTEN POWER ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!

COWARD KICK

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MAD MAC

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 09:02 am
Ahhhh I take it that you guys all think this stroy is BS.

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Somalilander

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 09:56 am
Majerteen peeps are cool, until they start thinkin they all that. So hold your horses son, and sit back. There's an easy solution to this useless argument that came from something that should have been celebrated. If this story is true, let it be a lesson for anyone deciding to bring back whack tendancies to the motherland. And if it was false, sameway, let faggots be scared for their life...Stop all this worthless arguin, there ain't even no issue...

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farhia

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 12:34 pm
man!! Everyone new that the first hoe in somalian history was majeerteen and the first lesbian in somalian history is majeerten. what the •••• is wrong with these majeerten?? they're naturally dhilooyin.
every bad thing that happens in somalia they're behind it. why are they like that?

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Anonymous

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 01:18 pm
farhia

get your hawiiya mentality back to baidabo sheedanmaye.Idiot.You are jelous of majeerten just like the people are jelous of the jews in the west.Because they have brains and they take care of their people.Stop that hate and make something out of your qabiil.
Get on with your family business bililiqo and moryaanism.You will do good.Make sure you dont come near my house i will shoot your black,pointy teeth from far.watch out.

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UNICORN

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 02:07 pm
Hi!
Here we go again, now the subject is about qabiil.Farhia sis you got some problems you need to work on them or you just wanna say something for no reason at all. As for the lesbos they should know better, such "unatural behaviour" is not accepted in our culture or relegion.
I rest my case.

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JR

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 02:07 pm
What does lesbianizm has to do with clan? We are talking about act of sexual behaviour of two individuals and the sentence they have received.

We can pick up other things to debate about in this issue but it seems like we only want to tribelize every issue or is it that we are not capable of talking about anything else.

Let us keep things civilazed and reac to what got you here first.

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jaylani

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 03:50 pm
I don't know if the story is true or not,but
if it's true JOB WELL DONE..we don't need none
of these activities in our land and people...
we're MOSLEMS did we forget that!!!!!!!
screw the gay freedom you hear in the western societies..we Moslems it's HARAM...I'm not a sheik or anything but it's commends sense!!!!!
so if you are fruit loop(gay or lesbian)stay the heck out OR you deserve what you get..plain and simple.

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MUSILIMAH

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 06:23 pm
salaam.

farhia, ur a twisted person who has some issues to solve, i mean it wasnt even said wat qabiil they were, where do u get off jumping to conclusions, and even it was mentioned, how dare u claim all majeerteen ppl r like that. i mean im sure we have whores and homosexuals from all qabiils, and i say we get rid of them all. bravo to the puntland government!!!

and anotha thing, to anonymouse who responded to farhia, ur not any betta, i mean ur a hypocrite as far as im concerned, u urself jumped to the conclusion that farhia was hawiye, did she say she was, no, then quit the act and admit u a qabiilist just like her.

i suggest u both go rot together, i mean u both have more alike than u notice.

and i agree, wat has qabiils got to do with homosexuality???

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Honesita

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 07:15 pm
Farhiya............nayaa LAAAAAX baa tahay walaahi.....just because the story says it happend in Bosaaso or puntland it dont mean they r automatically majeerteen......get ur facts straightened up...aightttt..!!!

My 'shiekh' brotha once told me that a man who is gay in the islamic shariica should DIE.....but a lesbian is NOT to die....she only gets wipped......cuz as he said when it comes to gay pple....something goes into something.....but lesbians dont got something that goes into something....if ya'll know what i mean......
So i dont think this story is real cuz simply an islamic court would know a simple thing my brotha knew about...!!! Does that make sense..?

I could imagine somaliis goin' astray in da west......but excuse moi....in Somalia..being gay.....that is just beyond imagination....4get about reality...!!!

Acuudu Bilaah...

Salaamz

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T-GIRL

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 02:27 am
Oh please people.......When will I see a day that SOMALIANS R not LYING?

Disguted
T

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Anonymous

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 03:25 am
Its True people ! Check out www.hornafrik.com
One of the ladies was a Western Woman.
Apparently, everything in MJ Land is for sale !

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Sharmaake

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 04:10 am
Another fabricated story..lol... when will people stop BS ?.... I think Qaran Newspaper decided to wage war against Puntland. You see Puntland is not Mj so get your facts together Idiots? Mj are part of the Puntland anyone who wants to insult Mj they can have a go at them so stop mixing MJ and puntland.

The story you heard was pure fabrication of Arta and their Hooligans controlled Newspapers with BBC. if you have any doubt please visit URL.WWW.SOMALITALK.COM

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Dont beleive the hype

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 04:48 am
HornAfrik = codka mooryaanta, whose sole aim is to discredit Puntland.
Recent of its stories include:
1. Invasion of monkeys in las Canod.
2. A mother eating her 13 year old daughter in Iskushuban
Ask yourselves people, why these newpapers don't write about issues that deal with development,progress, health, education and how the average Faarax and Xalimo are surviving and making ends meet?

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Amazon XX

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 05:05 am
It seems that "someone" is seriously upset at the successes in Puntland! So they make up stories- tell tales!
As for those who are looking for any chance to insult MJ- plse note that Puntland is not just MJ but a region populated by many of the DRD clans- peacefully and with prosperity. So ..... as they say- chill out and dont get so green with envy!
you too can do the same... I think? well- you have to first build order, and a system of rule and... maybe you can't do the same.... oh well... maybe one day- LOL!

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Message alert

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 06:02 am
People don't you know that IRIN and Horn Afrik are on a mission to smear, agitate and misrepresent the peace loving Daarood people in Puntland!

Beware of propoganda and the smear campaign of the mooryaan.

GARSOORAHA MAXKAMADDA BOSAASO OO BEENIYAY WARBIXIN BBC-DA IYO WARGEYSKA QARAN KALA XIGTEEN OO KU SAABSAN NAAGO ISKU GUURSADAY BOSAASO OO TOOGASHO LAGU XUKUMAY
Maxamed-deeq Cabdulqaadir
Sahan Bosaaso.
Email Maxdeeq50@hotmail.com
21 Feb. 2001

Garsooraha 1aad ee maxkamadda darajada 1aad ee magaalada Bosaaso Sh. Maxamed Cabdi Awaare ayaa beeniyay warbixin ku saabsan laba haween ah oo isku guursaday Bosaaso oo maxkamaddu ku xukuntay in la dilo.

Garsoore Awaare oo aan fiidnimadii 21ka bishan kula xiriiray gurigiisa ayaa ii xaqiijiyay in aan haba yaraatee waxaba ka jirin warkaas, isaga oo ka jawaabaya su’aal ahayd maxaa ka jira wararka sheegay in haweenka is guursaday maxkamadda la hor keenay oo aad xukunteen "Adeer arintaasi waxba kama jiraan, annagu ma arag, meel lagu hayana ma maqal, meel lagu xukumayna warkeedaba daah".

Garsooruhu waa uu sii waday hadalkiisii oo waxa uu yiri "wax daran ayaa warkaas sheegay, anagana waxaa markii noogu horaysay Taleefan nalagu soo waydiiyay anagoo maxkammadda joogna su’aalo ay ka mid ahaayeen Naagihii is guursaday ma maantaad maxkamadda saaraysaan? Maxaad ku xukumaysaan iyo kuwa la mid ah, ugu danbayntiina anaga laf ahaantayadii ayaa inta shaki na galay waxaan teleefano u dirnay dhamaan saldhigyadda magaalada, si ay noogu sheegaan haddii ay hayaan wax kiis ah oo arrintaas la xiriira, iyaguna anaga ayay nala yaabeen, marka adeer arinkaasi waa been, aan waxba ka jirin oo aan sal iyo raad toona lahayn, Ilaahaw ha inagu keenin hadana waxaas iyo wax la mid ah toona" ayuuna garsoore Awaare hadalkiisii ku soo afjaray.

Sidaas oo kale waxa aan booqday inta badan saldhigyada Magaalada isla habeenkii waxaana la kulmay qaar ka mid ah madaxda danbibaarayaasha saldhigyada Bosaaso kuwaasoo dhamaantood ii sheegay in aysan haba yaraatee hayn wax war ah oo ku saabsan naagaha la sheegay in ay isku guursadeen Bosaaso, maxkamad ay u gudbiyeena aysanba jirin.

Mursal oo ahaa danbi baaraha saldhigga Biyo kulule ayaa yiri "warkaasi waxa uu ka mid yahay warar aan sal lahayn oo ay faafiyaan dad aad xumaanta u jecel".

"habeen markaan dib u dhigay, habeen labaadna uu ku soo celiyay C/shukuur Yuusuf Cali (Tifaftiraha Wargeys cusub oo dhawaan laga soo saaray Bosaaso oo la yiraahdo War ogaal), oo nooga soo warama Buntilaan ayaan sii daynay warkaas.
Tifaftire Nerro
Ugu danbayntiina waxaa ii suuro gashay in aan khadka isgaarsiinta Taleefanka ee Magaalada Muqdisho kula xiriiro Tifaftiraha Wargeyska Qaran ee ay BBC-du warkaas ka xigatay Qaasim Nerro, waxa aana waydiiyay sida uu warkaas beenta ahi ku helay, kuna faafiyay isaga oo taas ka jawaabayana waxa uu Tifaftire Nerro ku jawaabay "habeen markaan dib u dhigay, habeen labaadna uu ku soo celiyay C/shukuur Yuusuf Cali (Tifaftiraha Wargeys cusub oo dhawaan laga soo saaray Bosaaso oo la yiraahdo War ogaal), oo nooga soo warama Buntilaan ayaan sii daynay warkaas, anoo rumaystay in uu yahay xaqiiqa baahday, mana rumaysnayn in nin wariyenimo rajo qabaa uu sheegi karo been taas oo kale ah, waliba si aan u dhawro amaankiisa, maadaama warkaasi ahaa mid xasaasi ah waxaan qarinay magiciisa, laakiin hadda qarin mayno, warkana cidda aan ka helnay waa cadahay" ayuu yiri Tifaftire Nerro.

Mar uu ka jawaabayay su'aal kale oo aan ku celiyay oo ku aadanayd waxa ay haatan yeelayaan waxa uu yiri "waxaa waajib nagu ah in aan akhristayaasha qaran ka raali galino warkaas aan salka lahayn isla Beritaba, go’aanka kaas xigaana waxa ka tashan doona masuuliyiinta wargeyska si wada jir ah"

BBC-da qaybteeda ururisa wararka afafka qalaad ku baxa ee la yiraahdo BBC Monitoring Service - United Kingdom; ayaa bishan 20keedii shabakadda internet-ka dariishadda ay ku leedahay ku daabacday warkaas oo lagu turjumay afka Ingiriiska ciwaankiisuna ahaa Lesbians sentenced to death in Somalia (naago isku guursaday Soomaaliya oo dhimasho lagu xukumay) kaasoo ay ka soo xigatay sida ay ku muujisay qoraalkeeda dariishadda Internetka ee wargeyska Qaran caddadkiisii soo baxay isla 20kii bishaan.

waraysigii Sahan ay Dr. Gaagaab kala yeesheen war been ah ee sheegayay in la afduubay isaga iyo marwada madaxweynaha Buntilaan
>> Akhri halkan

AN OPEN LETTER to the BBC World Service and the BBC Somali Section Leadership
>> Check Media Watch

Appellant - Employees of the BBC Somali Service vs Defendant
>>Check Gaashaan Column

BBC Monitoring Service - United Kingdom
>>Check ft.com website

Ma aha markii ugu horeysay ee ay wakaaladaha wararka ee caalamka oo dhan laga akhristaa ama laga dhageytaa ay faafiyaan warar aan sal iyo raad toona lahayn oo naxdin, ceeb iyo niyad jab ku ah, wadaniyadda, Amniga, sharafka, diinta iyo dhaqanka dadka Soomaaliyeed, iyadoo markasta wararkaasi yihiin kuwo ay bixiyaan dad Soomaaliyeed oo mararka qaarkood u bareera sheegidda been ay la tahay in ay cid ku xumaynayaan ama ay ku riixayaan degaan amaba ay qaarkood ku raadinayaan in ay ku helaan dhaqaale iyo sharaf; tasoo dhanka kalana dhaawacyo waaweyn u geysata ilaha ay wararka siiyaan oo macaamiishoodu kala laabtaan kalsoonidii wareed ee ay ka qaadan jireen.

Sahan Information Center "Bosaaso, Buntilaan Soomaaliya

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ALI

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 06:41 am
the guy who owns Hornafrik is half majeerteen and his wife is majeerteen. there are also some majeerteen shareholders in that TV station..damn you never knew this?
have also thought about that one of the AL_BARAKAAT founders was majeerteen. another thing the new AIR SOMALIA is partly co-owned by mareehaan guy DIRIR GUULEED, so u see hawiye people in HAMAR are more advanced and accepting the daaroods that they even allow them to be living and doing business in their midst? i wonder if that could be true in PUNTLAND or even in SOMALILAND///// by the way am not hawiye....so save you assaults of me advocating!!!

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Somali-Yankee

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 07:07 am
how come all strange things happen in puntland....what's likelyhood of that many things happening in one plae.....stop the fabrication and propoganda war......and no insults to MJs.

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SIRRUS

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 08:10 am
WHAT A WASTE OF BRAIN
WHAT A WASTE OF BREATH
WHAT A WASTE OF BLOOD
WHAT A WASTE OF LIFE
I AM SO ASHAMED TO BE SOMALI, YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK. YOU TRIBALISTIC PIECE OF S.H.I.T. Where do you get off making everything CLAN BASED. MJ, AB, IS, HG, HW, DA, OG, RW, SOME TIME I THINK SOMALIS REALLY DESERVED WHAT THEY GOT FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, THATS RIGHT 20 SIAD, 10 HELL. OUR SEA IS FULL OF POISON, OUR YOUNG DAUGTHERS AND SONS ARE WERE BEATEN, PISSED UPON, SET ON FIRE, BY WHITE A.S.S.H.O.L.E CALLING THEMSELFS PIECE KEEPERS. PEOPLE DIED SEA ON SHITTY BOATS, OUR HOME IS CONTROLLED BY FAGGOTS, WHO CAN"T TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG. YOU ARE ALL HERE BEGGING THE WEST FOR FOOD AND CLOTHING.

AFTER ALL THAT YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO COME HERE AND SAY THIS QABILL IS GOOD THIS ONE IS BAD, YOU SICK DIMENTED IDIOTS, MAY ALLAH PUT THE ENTIRE RACE OF SOMALIS IN HELL, MAY YOU ALL, INCLUDING ME BURN AND ROTT THERE. GOD I LOSE MY TEMPER WHEN I SEE THE IGNORANTS SPEAK THEIR MIND. KEEP THAT CRAP TO YOURSELF, DON'T MAKE US PUKE.
PEACE

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GARYAQAN

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 08:13 am
anonymous,,,
yow, Ala maxaan kula yaabay!!!! some of your posts
sound bit intelctual and logic whereas some totally foolish....i wonder why !!! the post to farhia on 21/02/01.stands a clear example of what you are .that is a triblist ,fighting for a tribe affair. look. i'm not sayin she was a right but i think it is not a right to argue a sister in that way.what i think right is let her know what she is saying is wrong and that the topic is not a tribal form.and the other thing i wish to remind you is to spare some respect for what you are . you are not ladie.

guys, hope you all will post something nice and entertaining.........take care of each other.

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Truth-hurts

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 08:30 am
Yeah I know some of you are the kind that only believe what they hear from the BBC, if you tell them anything they will ask you how come BBC did not mention it. So to you guys here is your News Bible,,,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_1183000/1183937.stm

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HISTORY_

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 10:07 am
hey....

the FIRST TWO FAGZ in somalia r MAJEERTEEN TOO. or Should i SAY DAROOD.

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fatimah

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 10:37 am
hey everyone
i think that everyone should stop saying that the two ladies were majeerteen , from the way i read it in the beginning of the story it didn't say what clan they were. These are the things that destroyed our country don't you think that we should stop talking clans, iam isaaq and i don't hate anybody all somalia people are equal to me and i think that is how we should all think!!!!!!!!!

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Ali ghedi

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 10:50 am
Appealing To All Somali's please once for all lets break and stop this ignorance assaulting our own Somali people ,no make mistake if you use these unwise,uncivilized language you not only assaulting one Community of Somalia ,You assaulting all Somali communities including yourself ,if you have problem with an individual deal with that person don't come here and use this flagrant language .please show us your courteous manners or politeness believe me we all love to hear from you ,and if you do that Once for all you helping your Somali communities and contributing right knowledge ..please wake up our beloved coutry and communities more than ever before need our positive contribution.. thank you all

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Ali ghedi

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 10:53 am
Appealing To All Somali's please once for all lets break and stop this ignorance assaulting our own Somali people ,no make mistake if you use these unwise,uncivilized language you not only assaulting one Community of Somalia ,You assaulting all Somali communities including yourself ,if you have problem with an individual deal with that person don't come here and use this flagrant language .please show us your courteous manners or politeness believe me we all love to hear from you ,and if you do that Once for all you helping your Somali communities and contributing right knowledge ..please wake up our beloved coutry and communities more than ever before need our positive contribution.. thank you all

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Hibo

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 11:32 am
Arawelo & Somali Yankee: lol... I take the two of u to be MJs.... lol.. Whenever Mjs..r mentioned... I see ur nicks....lol.. I won't argue... I respect u folks.. u guys r my abtiyos....lol.. just kidding... but I thought this was true... I read it in the Somali Newspaper... Whatever it is.. we don't want such kind of behavior in our homelands.... enough what we have to witness in the west...!.. Kill The BASTARDS....KILL THE HOMOS....KILL ALL that oppose God's ways.....Hail...to the executors!!

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Honesita

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 12:03 pm
Hiboooooooooooooo....sistah why kill the BASTARDS......it aint thier fault is it..!?!?!

Sirrus......dear....i'm tryin' to work hard on NOT burning in hell.....adigana habaar aaba gashay miyaa..!!??

N-E-ways......ya'll need to stop this tribal bullshit........is NO GOOD walaahi......isku xishooda ya'll....

Salaamz

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Xogogaal

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 12:56 pm
THE GULLIBLE WILL BE MISLED BY THE MORYAAN!

TO THE REST: IGNORE THE NONSENSE.

THERE IS A PACT AMONG BBC, IRIN, HORNAFRIK AND ANOTHER SOMALI PAPER TO INITIATE A CAMPAIGN OF PROPOGANDA IN PUNTLAND. THE INTENTION IS TO INVENT SENSATIONAL STORIES TO EMBRASS THE PEOPLE OF PUNTLAND AND GAIN SUPPORT FOR THE SO CALLED INTERIM GOVERNMENT.

TO THE PERSON CALLED "HISTORY" HAVEN'T YOU EVER BEEN TO HARGEISA AND MARKA?....THE SAN FRANSCISO OF SOMALIA. YOU NEED TO REVEIW YOUR HISTORY BOOKS.

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JAYLANI

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 01:10 pm
HIBO..I'VE SEEN YOU IN OTHER TOPICS AND I DON'T
LIKE YOUR IDEAS AND BELIEFS IN ALOT OF SH$T,BUT
YOU SAID THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH
THIS TIME!!!!!!GOOD JOB

HONISIA, ARE YOU PROMOTING HOMOSEXUALITY????????
IF YOU'RE...THEN YOU NEED ALLAH...DROP THE KEYBOARD AND WASH YOUR SELF AND GO TO THE MASJID

THE REST OF YOU ALL...STAY BUSY WITH THE "GABIIL"
SH$T...

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KISMAYO

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 02:23 pm
DACAAYADAN RAQIISKA AH EE LAGA FAAFINAYO PUNTLAND WAXAY MIDEYNEYSAA DADKA U DHASHAY PUNTLAND MARKII HAWIYE AF WAX UGA QAADI WAAYEY PUNTLAND AYUU CAAY IYO HABAAR U BADESHAY.WAA JIRAN TIHIIN EE ILAAH CAAFIMAAD WEYDIISTA.

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$OLO

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 02:41 pm
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH FUKING REFUGEEZ GET A LIFE PUNKZ

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Human-Rights advbocate

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 03:15 pm
Killers Welcome....Faggots Out.

Is this what it came to, that we are proud of our boys in slaughtering the boys of other tribes, but when it comes to sexual orientation, suddenly we attack it on cultural and religious grounds. As a Somali guy who is straight, I would rather live among guys/lesbians who are at peace with themselves than live with Somali murederers.

Wake up ignorants
Viva faggot

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Anonymous

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 03:18 pm
jaylani is a fagoot in the closet.walahi.

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Anonymous

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 05:25 pm
Wararka Maanta

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Mid ka mid ah gabdhihii isku guursaday…
Boosaaso, (Apress)- Khamiis, Feb 21, 2001
Mid ka mid ah gabdhihii dhowaan isku guursaday magaalada Boosaaso isla markaana maxkamad ku taalla magaalada Boosaaso ay ku xukuntay dil toogasho ah ayaa la sheegay in mid ka mid ah laga helay dokumenti.
Dokumentigaas ayaa la sheegay inay ku qornaayeen in mid ka mid ah gabdhahaasi ay u shaqeynaysay hay'ad ka tirsan dalka Mareykanka, waxaana la sheegay in magaceeda uu ahaa Maria Joseph oo da'deedu tahay dhowr iyo labaatan jir, gabadha kale ayaa sheegtay in gabadhaasi ay ka codsatay inay soo xera geliso ama ay u keento gabdho kale iyadoo sheegtay inay u ballan qaaday lacag fara badan, balse lacagtaasi ay gabadhaasi ku warrantay inaysan ka helin Maria. Mas'uuliyiinta waqooyi bari faahfaahin rasmi ah kama bixin xaaladda labadaasi gabdhood.

(Ayaamaha)

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Breakingnews

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 05:33 pm
Beware of propoganda and the smear campaign of the mooryaan.

GARSOORAHA MAXKAMADDA BOSAASO OO BEENIYAY WARBIXIN BBC-DA IYO WARGEYSKA QARAN KALA XIGTEEN OO KU SAABSAN NAAGO ISKU GUURSADAY BOSAASO OO TOOGASHO LAGU XUKUMAY
Maxamed-deeq Cabdulqaadir
Sahan Bosaaso.
Email Maxdeeq50@hotmail.com
21 Feb. 2001

Garsooraha 1aad ee maxkamadda darajada 1aad ee magaalada Bosaaso Sh. Maxamed Cabdi Awaare ayaa beeniyay warbixin ku saabsan laba haween ah oo isku guursaday Bosaaso oo maxkamaddu ku xukuntay in la dilo.

Garsoore Awaare oo aan fiidnimadii 21ka bishan kula xiriiray gurigiisa ayaa ii xaqiijiyay in aan haba yaraatee waxaba ka jirin warkaas, isaga oo ka jawaabaya su’aal ahayd maxaa ka jira wararka sheegay in haweenka is guursaday maxkamadda la hor keenay oo aad xukunteen "Adeer arintaasi waxba kama jiraan, annagu ma arag, meel lagu hayana ma maqal, meel lagu xukumayna warkeedaba daah".

Garsooruhu waa uu sii waday hadalkiisii oo waxa uu yiri "wax daran ayaa warkaas sheegay, anagana waxaa markii noogu horaysay Taleefan nalagu soo waydiiyay anagoo maxkammadda joogna su’aalo ay ka mid ahaayeen Naagihii is guursaday ma maantaad maxkamadda saaraysaan? Maxaad ku xukumaysaan iyo kuwa la mid ah, ugu danbayntiina anaga laf ahaantayadii ayaa inta shaki na galay waxaan teleefano u dirnay dhamaan saldhigyadda magaalada, si ay noogu sheegaan haddii ay hayaan wax kiis ah oo arrintaas la xiriira, iyaguna anaga ayay nala yaabeen, marka adeer arinkaasi waa been, aan waxba ka jirin oo aan sal iyo raad toona lahayn, Ilaahaw ha inagu keenin hadana waxaas iyo wax la mid ah toona" ayuuna garsoore Awaare hadalkiisii ku soo afjaray.

Sidaas oo kale waxa aan booqday inta badan saldhigyada Magaalada isla habeenkii waxaana la kulmay qaar ka mid ah madaxda danbibaarayaasha saldhigyada Bosaaso kuwaasoo dhamaantood ii sheegay in aysan haba yaraatee hayn wax war ah oo ku saabsan naagaha la sheegay in ay isku guursadeen Bosaaso, maxkamad ay u gudbiyeena aysanba jirin.

Mursal oo ahaa danbi baaraha saldhigga Biyo kulule ayaa yiri "warkaasi waxa uu ka mid yahay warar aan sal lahayn oo ay faafiyaan dad aad xumaanta u jecel".

"habeen markaan dib u dhigay, habeen labaadna uu ku soo celiyay C/shukuur Yuusuf Cali (Tifaftiraha Wargeys cusub oo dhawaan laga soo saaray Bosaaso oo la yiraahdo War ogaal), oo nooga soo warama Buntilaan ayaan sii daynay warkaas.
Tifaftire Nerro
Ugu danbayntiina waxaa ii suuro gashay in aan khadka isgaarsiinta Taleefanka ee Magaalada Muqdisho kula xiriiro Tifaftiraha Wargeyska Qaran ee ay BBC-du warkaas ka xigatay Qaasim Nerro, waxa aana waydiiyay sida uu warkaas beenta ahi ku helay, kuna faafiyay isaga oo taas ka jawaabayana waxa uu Tifaftire Nerro ku jawaabay "habeen markaan dib u dhigay, habeen labaadna uu ku soo celiyay C/shukuur Yuusuf Cali (Tifaftiraha Wargeys cusub oo dhawaan laga soo saaray Bosaaso oo la yiraahdo War ogaal), oo nooga soo warama Buntilaan ayaan sii daynay warkaas, anoo rumaystay in uu yahay xaqiiqa baahday, mana rumaysnayn in nin wariyenimo rajo qabaa uu sheegi karo been taas oo kale ah, waliba si aan u dhawro amaankiisa, maadaama warkaasi ahaa mid xasaasi ah waxaan qarinay magiciisa, laakiin hadda qarin mayno, warkana cidda aan ka helnay waa cadahay" ayuu yiri Tifaftire Nerro.

Mar uu ka jawaabayay su'aal kale oo aan ku celiyay oo ku aadanayd waxa ay haatan yeelayaan waxa uu yiri "waxaa waajib nagu ah in aan akhristayaasha qaran ka raali galino warkaas aan salka lahayn isla Beritaba, go’aanka kaas xigaana waxa ka tashan doona masuuliyiinta wargeyska si wada jir ah"

BBC-da qaybteeda ururisa wararka afafka qalaad ku baxa ee la yiraahdo BBC Monitoring Service - United Kingdom; ayaa bishan 20keedii shabakadda internet-ka dariishadda ay ku leedahay ku daabacday warkaas oo lagu turjumay afka Ingiriiska ciwaankiisuna ahaa Lesbians sentenced to death in Somalia (naago isku guursaday Soomaaliya oo dhimasho lagu xukumay) kaasoo ay ka soo xigatay sida ay ku muujisay qoraalkeeda dariishadda Internetka ee wargeyska Qaran caddadkiisii soo baxay isla 20kii bishaan.

waraysigii Sahan ay Dr. Gaagaab kala yeesheen war been ah ee sheegayay in la afduubay isaga iyo marwada madaxweynaha Buntilaan
>> Akhri halkan

AN OPEN LETTER to the BBC World Service and the BBC Somali Section Leadership
>> Check Media Watch

Appellant - Employees of the BBC Somali Service vs Defendant
>>Check Gaashaan Column

BBC Monitoring Service - United Kingdom
>>Check ft.com website

Ma aha markii ugu horeysay ee ay wakaaladaha wararka ee caalamka oo dhan laga akhristaa ama laga dhageytaa ay faafiyaan warar aan sal iyo raad toona lahayn oo naxdin, ceeb iyo niyad jab ku ah, wadaniyadda, Amniga, sharafka, diinta iyo dhaqanka dadka Soomaaliyeed, iyadoo markasta wararkaasi yihiin kuwo ay bixiyaan dad Soomaaliyeed oo mararka qaarkood u bareera sheegidda been ay la tahay in ay cid ku xumaynayaan ama ay ku riixayaan degaan amaba ay qaarkood ku raadinayaan in ay ku helaan dhaqaale iyo sharaf; tasoo dhanka kalana dhaawacyo waaweyn u geysata ilaha ay wararka siiyaan oo macaamiishoodu kala laabtaan kalsoonidii wareed ee ay ka qaadan jireen.

Sahan Information Center "Bosaaso, Buntilaan Soomaaliya

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Anonymous

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 06:10 pm
i have this page and it really shocked me.
r these two majeerteen?
who knows them?
i think maybe they are the two lesbians...lol

http://www.sombeauty.com/

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MNman

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 08:50 pm
Well if thiz is true well done job.

I was in Puntland last NOV. I was very impressive whit their government and how they conduct their business. A lot peace and prosperity.

I don't like insulting other ppls tribe nor do I like someone insulting mine.

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CoolPoison

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 11:09 pm
Guys. BBC was cool until Yusuf Garad refreshed it, removing in the process a few old scums that used to filter what should be heard and what not! And, it is not lost on the vast majority of BBC Somali Service addicts who is doing the complaining nowadays. Surely, they wouldn't want the BBC to start seeing with one eye - again!

Meanwhile...let us enjoy the fresh aroma enemating from Bush house. Indeed, it is wonderful.

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Anonymous

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 03:12 am
Go www.somalitalk.com. if you interested the Truth

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No2Propoganda

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 05:02 am
Ten years have Mooryaan been raping, looting and sodomizing children. Never has IRIN and the news organizations it feeds talked about these issues. PEOPLE, ASK YOURSELVES WHY.

STAY TUNED FOR MORE 'HORROR STORIES' THAT THE BBC, IRIN, AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT QUOTE THEM WILL BEING RELEASING SOON. PAY ATTENTION TO THE AREAS TARGETTED FOR THESE SENSATIONAL NEWS:-
PUNTLAND AND DAAROOD.
THE MORYAAN PROPOGANDA MACHINE IS ON A MISSION TO DISINFORM AND DEFELECT ATTENTION FROM THE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS AND THE MAFIA STYLE DEALINGS OF THE 'INTERIM GOVERNMENT'

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Anonymous

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 05:26 am
YUSUF GARAAD IS fair and unbiased. he also hired a lot of HAWIYE as well of majeerteen journalists.
BBC now has many accents like XASAN XUNDUMEEY AND AHMED TAAJIR..that is progress.

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Anonymous

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 05:27 am
YUSUF GARAAD IS fair and unbiased. he also hired a lot of HAWIYE as well of majeerteen journalists.
BBC now has many accents like XASAN XUNDUMEEY AND AHMED TAAJIR..that is progress.

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KOCHIN

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:41 am
MAJERTEEN HOEEEEEEES!!!!

SOMALI SAYING GOES, IF YOU SEE DHULMAHANTE GIRL
OPEN YOUR ZIPER UP, FOR MAJERTEEN GIRLS JUST GET IT OUT...GUES WHY...THEY ARE WHOESSSS..SO IT IS NOT BIG DEAL FOR THEM ABOUT WHAT HAPENING IN THEIR HOME TODAY.... WHOEEEES

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Aro

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 08:03 am
Hibo,

Abaa This is the first time I am reading this. I do not show up for that reason. I saw the topic but did not have time to read it.

Walaalo, I am in fact Isaaq, but My lovely mother is Darrot. I am almost with the Daaroots ans was born in Mugadisho.

About the topic,
I agree with Ali Ghedi.

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checkDIZniggas

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 08:33 am
Look at this F****** NOMADS!!!!!!

The nigga is talking about "xaran stuff"...n ya fricking MJs bring "qabiil"...think twice b4 ya just open your "aboka lips"

Besides what is there to be proud of Bosaaso...I know n ya niggaz know...ain't nobody can survive there a week......while the sun is resting on your head.

If ya think Bosaaso makes up "PUNTLAND" niggas ya got that wrong.

And if one clan is better than the other "like ya guys are suggesting" ya got that wrong.

Niggas ya know who made fuckin' 'SOMALIA' A COUNTRY...free of white ppl.....along the side of that of "Sayid Abdule Xasan".......even the great warrior ......"Gurey" or the "LEFT HANDED"...

To conclude your fucking comments......"Darood ain't a nation...with out their right hand. And ya know who I am talking about.

I rest my freaking case.......peace out

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Honesita

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 08:49 am
CheckDIZniggaz......u said it all dear....word up..!!

Jaylani........do u understand the words coming outa my post........NO as i thought......well brotha dont ask me to go wash myself b4 u understand da hell i'm talkin' about..!! Sweet enough right..!!

ciao

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jaylani

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 09:57 am
honisita,
I still don't understand what the fu^k
you trying to say....come correct or don't
come at all

peace out

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Friday, February 23, 2001 - 10:02 am
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lonelyheart

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 12:39 pm
Oooo my lord what a mess in here.guys plz stop this qabiil thing.(lord have mercy)

let us assume the story is true.
well I believe they shouldn't be killed for many reason and I will explain to U why.(plz guys don't insult me I am just speaking of fact)

actually for me this is personal,let us talk about religion.that is what U guys are using for an excuse these days.

in Islamic religion it say "if a man see another man coming out of his house,and putting on his pants,he can not assume he slept with his wife".
the man has to have 4 witnesses b4 he could divorce his wife.

same goes for gay ppl,they cant kill someone until they have pure evidence against the ladies and someone must have witnessed them upon the act.atleast 4 pp.which I don't think they do.
its some he said/she said kind of think.

second of all when did we all over sudden become Muslims,common now let us all be honest here.
80%of Somalis all across the world don't follow their religion.

you see young ladies pregnant b4 marriage,guy committing haraam and sin,guys drinking and using drugs,woman not covering up as Allah told to them,and other words we forgot who we are and where we came from.

how about the guy who charged them with this accusations,does he pray,is he faithful to his wife,does he eat qaat and drink.
who knows right.

there are men who killed woman and children still walking around with someone"s soul in their neck.
why don't we kill them first.
why don't we all act like Muslims and obey our culture.

if U want to kill someone because of religion then act upon that religion 24/7 then U can kill someone for breaking the rules.but first think is first.

now,when it comes to human being its not right to kill someone because of their choice.everyone can choose their Owen path.whatever they decide is between him/her and Allah on judgement day.
I am not saying they are 100% right but I still belive everyone has a choice and we should let them make that choice.

before U judge anyone or any qabiil why don't U do ur part in ur religion and cultre.follow it,obey it and most of all fear Allah.

now I know most of U will disagree with me and I cant convince U to agree with me.
but again keep in mind that we are 2 different ppl and it's ok to disagree as long as U don't insult me and my qabiil.

one more thing,instead of killings those poor ladies,they should consider killing those who killed a person in cold blood murder.those are the one's who need to be killed not the ladies.

ooh and incase U don't know,there are plenty of Somali men who are gay.and I don't see anyone acting upon that.
why is it a big deal when a woman say she is lesbian.i thought men to men was worst then woman to woman.(lord have mercy)

and don't U dare say I am a lesbian,I know how some of ur minds work.
no insulting guys we are here to exchange ideas.


have faith
lonelyheart

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One Proud I

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 12:44 pm
it's a new century and u'all still live in the past. Being gay and lesbian is a part of the society which u've eagerly adopted. U all be surprise about the amount of gays and lesbian somalis...as one I'm disgusted of the somali gov and as a matter of fact if this turns out to be relevant...I'll personally submit a complaint to the "crime against humanity". I'm in way discouraging u from your violent attitude but I'm asking to at least show 'respect'towards people of different beliefs.

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MUSILIMAH.

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 02:25 pm
here we go again!!
u know i must say some somali ppl have got to be some of the stupidest ppl on earth. dont u eva learn from our mistakes of the past!!i guess not.

anywayz get lives, coz u all lost in the dark (im referring to those idiots who bring qabiil into this issue). and by the way one of the most beloved ppl to me, my grandmother, may allah give her paradise, was MJ and let me tell u she was the most amazing human being. so for u idiots who classify the goodness of ppl in terms of qabiils, screw ur heads on rite, coz it sure as hell aint working.

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Alert

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 04:28 pm
BAY CENTRE FOR CONFLICT PREVENTION (BCCP)

Kismayo City, Southern Somalia, February 23, 2001

Somali Transitional Government and Mogadishu Businessmen With Some News Media Groups Determined to Destabalising Stable Regions of Somalia

Kismayo City (southern Somalia), February 23, 2001 - Conflict Monitoring Officials of "Bay Centre for Conflict Prevention" (BCCP) have reported to the Centre's security team today that Somali Transitional Government, Mogadishu bussinesmenn, Mogadishu media, BBC Somali section, IRIN agency (Integrated Regional Information Networks) and certain Somali website groups are involved in developing news items aimed at the destabilisation of Somalia's stable regions.

According to the recent Media Monitoring Project carried out by the Centre's monitoring team, it has now become obvious that the common ground shared by Transitional Government and Mogadishu businessmen is to broaden and accelerate the pace of their economic interests in Somali civil war, and to promote Hawiye clan hegemony in the country. None of the two has a social and political agenda aimed at the promotion of national reconciliation and justice among Somalis, and improvement of Somali people's livelihoods. The Media Monitoring Project also indicates that a number of Mogadishu news media such as Qaran, internet websites like Hiiraan and Somalinet, and BBC Somali Section have become a major instrumental in helping to frame and distribute the new context within which interests of Mogadishu businessmen are perpetuated and Transitional Government's opportunistic policy is daily encouraged and mounted.

The principal intended-audience of their news release are international community, foreign News Agencies, and international aid agencies, with the view to hiding evil actions such as exploitation of public resources, confiscation of private properties and human rights abuse in Mogadishu and its surrounding.

The Media Monitoring Project has coded the coverage of the Mogadishu news media's and their partners into 8 topics, that is, business; politics; education; violence; health; human rights; arts & culture; and crime. It was found that there were more news items about human rights, crimes and violence aimed to destabilise stable regions like Puntland state of Somalia than any other issues. This did not only show the low coverage of human rights violation and of exploitation of public resources by Mogadishu businessmen in southern Somalia but also the lack of partiality in coverage of issues that concern whole society.

The Centre monitoring team has also found that the most common sources of misinformation and manipulated opinions in news reports about stable regions are drawn from two institutions, notably Mogadishu businessmen and transitional government to promote their interest and hide the negative impact of their activities on Somalia's livelihoods. BBC Somali section is principal actor in distributing the fabricated news items to its networks (both through radio and through the World BBC website). This research also states that the increase in the news coverage of BBC Somali Section's misinformation on Puntland and other stable regions was aided by Mr. Yousuf Graad Omar, the head director of BBC Somali section who is very close family-clan to the President of Transitional Government, Mr. Abdiqasim Salad. Mr Yousuf Graad has promoted his current power influence on the news release policy of BBC Somali Services by bringing considerable funds to the BBC Somali section through the sponsorship of some Somali news-reports from Somali businessmen and international agencies like Red Cross in Somalia.

Mr Graad also promoted his influence on the manipulation of news release by providing a special privilege to his clan reporters through training and employment, marginalizing other clan reporters' involvement, and establishing BBC Somali Section's relationship with Mogadishu-based-radio's. In effect, his clan reporters and his network are strengthening their manipulation of news release on Somalia, with special attention to creating social tensions in stable region like Somaliland and Puntland State of Somalia.

"Mr Graad maps out the news items, in co-operation with Dr. Jim'ala Human Rights Organisation and Mogadishu media's which in turn reports and release the news items to the International Community and international development agencies, with the aim of giving a dark picture about stable regions and of hiding evil actions in Mogadishu and its surrounding", said a Mogadshu-based reporter.

Dr. Jim'ala Human Rights Organisation, based in Mogadishu, has recently received financial grants from some international development agencies including the UN agencies, due to its claimed success in the facilitation of Somali peace process in Arta, Djibouti.

"The leadership of Mogadishu-based Human Rights organisation has actively, behind the scene, advocated for the interests of its Hawiya clan at Djibouti peace conference and it has never taken the lead in protecting the mass human rights violation by Mogadishu warlords and other rootless businessmen in Mogadishu", confirmed a reliable source. "The core activities of so-called Dr. Jim'ala Human Right Organisation are now the facilitation of social tensions and instability in stable regions of Somalia", according to a reporter in Mogadishu.

So far, the leadership of transitional government remains silence on feudal activities in southern areas and closely associates with the economic interests of certain economic-minded-groups in Mogadishu City. Mogadishu business groups have deeply benefited from the destruction of Somali nation state by forcing, expelling, moving and killing the original inhabitants of southern cities, and taking possession of every single thing there.

RELATING STORIES
. BBC and Mogadishu Tabloids
SHASNA, Feb 22, 2001

. Warbixintii Sahan Newspapers
SAHAN NEWS, Feb 21, 2001

. Questioning the fairness
Gaashaan Column, Feb 14, 2001
In the light of the found information, the BCCP urges the leadership of transitional government, its business alliance, and Media groups associated with those two institutions to desist from creating social tensions in stable regions of Somalia, and from depleting the nation's scarce economic resources.

The Centre has raised its concern and is closely continuing to monitor the situation in southern Somalia.


For more information on this report, contact the Centre. E-mail: baycentre@hotmail.com, Kismayo city, southern Somalia.


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ABSAME

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 08:03 pm
MAN!!! THIS YUSUF GARAAD IS A HERO>>> I LOVE HIM>>>> IF HE HAS MAJEERTEENS CRYING FAULT THEN HE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT..I KNOW HE IS HAWIYE AND HE IS HABAR GHIDIR BUT THAT MEANS NOTHING COS I AM OGAADEEN AND I KNOW MAJEERTEEN PEOPLE SUCK TOO MUCH AND THEY LIKE TO COMPLAIN AND BOAST WHILE THEY ARE THE SCUM OF THE SOMALI SOCIETY. HOMOSEXUALITY WAS BROUGHT TO SOMALIA BY MAJEERTEENS AND THEIR WOMEN ARE ALL HOES..EVEN THERE IS THIS WELL KNOWN FACT NO MAJEERTEEN WOMEN GIVES BIRTH TO BASTARD...I WONDER WHY? THE OTHER THING REMEMBER BACK THEN WHEN UNISOM WAS BACK IN SOMALIA AND THE BELGIUM SOLDIERS WERE BARBECUING SOMALI KIDS IN KISMAAYO..THERE WERE MAJEERTEEN HOES AND HOMOS IN THEIR CAMPS. THEN THERE WAS THAT POPULAR BBC INTERVIEW WITH MOHAMED ABSHIR..THE MAJEERTEEN LEADER FOR AGES AND WHEN THEY ASKED HIM ABOUT THE SOMALI MAJEERTEEN MEN BEING FOUND AT THE BELGIAN CAMP PROSTITUTING ..HIS ANSWER WAS AND I QOUTE.." WAXEEY NOO QABANAYAAN AYAA KA BADAN "

DAMN..I AM DAAROOD AND I HAD TO BE ASHAMED OF CALLING MYSELF DAAROOD LIKE THEM MAJEERTEENS DO..
I DACLARE HERE THAT THE ABSAME ARE OUT OF THE CAMP OF DAAROOD OR WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE MOTHERFUCKER MAJEERTEENS OUTCAST AND TREAT THEM LIKE LOW CASTE..THEY ARE BRINGING SHAME TO US....PERIOD

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Anon

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 10:06 pm
Absame, maqnuud sodmized by amxaar and then moryan. Quoting M. Abshir out of context just because he is trying to secure the next place he will get caano borey. Keep sucking up to moryaan,and maybe u will get some.

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Anon

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 10:08 pm
Ah another idiot rejected by a MJ queen is insulting the whole tribe.

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Somali_YAnkee

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 10:24 pm
hay Hibo....i guess you get me there....lol iam not a freak though like many people in here...and i don't degrade people...i honestly defend all people that are unfairly margilanized....yeah iam Mj....my mom is from da north and granma is Hawiye....and i love all somalis...and somalis would grow out of this crab.

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BlackBeauty

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 01:33 pm
SOMALI YANKEE
Whatever U do don't call me AYEEEEYYYYYOOOOO ! :O

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Galool

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 03:49 pm
Okay

I am not from any of the clans arguing here. I can however, confirm that the story is indeed baseless.

I fail to understand this animosity towards the MJs. Now I know they are a small clan who live in the most barren and inhospitable part of the country, but they played an important role way beyond their size in both the pre and post independence Somalia. I suppose that is why they attract so much vitriol and suspicion from most Somalis.

There is also without a doubt some degree of envy at work here. Puntland is peaceful and relatively prosperous while the rest of the country(except Iidoorland) is in total chaos. Let us start learning from those of us who start managing their affairs better than us instead of falling prey to envy and petty hatred.

International bodies like the UN, EU, Arab League etc should also take notice of this instead trying to bulldoze succesful regions like Puntland out of the map, for if they try this they will doubtless lose credibility.

As for the matter of Lesbians, I find the idea quite exciting! It shows what a diverse and imaginative tribe the MJs are! So if they discover some Lesbos in the future, they should honour and value them instead of being ashamed of them!

I personally would love to watch two lesbian girls at work and any man who wouldn't is either a liar, a poof or both!

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Proffessor

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 04:13 pm
We shouldnt have to be biased against the reality for the sake of a tribe.
I am majerten, but i feel totally agitated by this reality of sentencing two human biengs to death for their sexual orientation.
In this forums, i see a lot of you protesting that this isnt the case. It is the reality.
The other day i called my mother who lives in Bosaso, and who confirmed the truth that this is happening.
You can even go to this wepsite to check it by yourself.
http://www.reliefweb.int/IRIN/cea/countrystories/somalia/20010222a.phtml

I believe in individual independence in which everyone of us has the ultimate right to choose whatever sexual orientation he/she desires.
We shouldnt have to terminate someone's life on the ground that her/his sexual inclinations are unnatural. That isnt a matter for you to judge.
Whenever we encounter certain human individuals who deviate from the norm,we shouldnt have to judge against them using religion as a justification.
I wish these sisters who are in danger the best and pray that they will be released from this terrible isolation and emminent danger.

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sheikh cabdi sheelaweyne

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 04:38 pm
hello everone. once again, there is an issue,then peole sidewind it . without resorting to tribal garbage let's seperate the facts from the fiction. if there are lesbos ,and infact this is a true incident, then execution, or any other approporiate punishment should be carried .we don't need to insult tribes. i thought this the thing of the past. i remember early ninetees people were zealous about these things. wake up it's the twenty first century. the two women in question's tribes are irrelavent in a court of law. what is the matter people. iam not trying to be an idealistic,but this is the only logical way of looking at this pressing matter. i have my prejudices, but i wouldn't let them take over my reasoning. what an interesting topic. i wish the foggots and the lesbos in my classes here in the us knew what we were debating. god bless somalia and our people . peace and love people ,and take it easy allright.

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Anonymous

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 05:15 pm
Despite all the article alledged proof of truth posted here to support that this is not hoax is infact a fact not a fiction,i still insist it is a lie, farbricated on the original agenda that targets Majeerten.This is a veiled Majeerten bashing with the pretext of created rumor or hype of Homosexuality,possibly born from individual fetishes of homosexuality and the urge to discuss it on the forumss,which clearly would enact a flow of feedback.Brothers and sisters of somali lets consider this a hoax and a lie.Somali dont have homosexuals.Thank you.I would like to thank everybody for their time on reading this.ameen

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Hibo

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 06:14 pm
Jaylaani: Gee....thnx bro... I almost had a heart attack...seeing my name next to ur nick... just wondering 'what now'...phew its a relief u r not after me.....lol...

Honestia: Sis... who do u blame for this abnormal behavior....coz... God didn't create man for man or vice versa??

Aro: lol... the same is true for me....sis.. I was only teasing u...

Somali Yankee: lol... so it seems.. u r under the leash....lol..to tell u the truth... my mom is mj.. my ayeeyo is sheeqaal.. my ayeeyo #3 is habar gidir...my aabo is qaldaan.. my aunts r ogaadeen..so as u can see... waxba kaama yareesti... xaga Somali weyn... I am one too....:O

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Darood nin la yaabey??

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 06:59 pm
It is a sad day in the history of the Somali people, once again the Majerteen in their Majeertenia-land have brought shame to the Somali people as a whole.

They have time and time again embarassed our people and our culture and it seems to be a culture of theirs, why is that???

Why can you Majerteens in Majeertenia-land just try to live by the Islamic laws????

Just look at the useless contributions to the Somali people that the Majerteens have made:

1. Iman-(who married david bowie the faggot)
2.Weris Diriye-total disgrace to somalis
3.The first lesbians in Somali history
4.Morgan(massmurderer and warcriminal)
5.majerteens betrayed their people in the war aginst Ethiopia

That was the Majerteen by themselves, but lets look at darood clan as a whole, we can then add these disgraces to the list:

1.Mad Mullah-first somali dictator(ogaden)
2.Afweyne-second somali dictator(Marexaan)
3.Ganni-warcriminal(Ogaden)
4.afxakame-1st somali male homosexual(Dhulbahante)

This clan that is called Darood always complain that other Somalis hate them but have they ever asked them selves why?? Why do we hate you, just look at your heroes they are the filthiest scum on earth and they are your heroes and now the lesbians are your quuens uf uf darood Allow ha ii dhoweyniin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Z.J

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 07:21 pm
Professor either you are a liar or your brother is a liar. I just came back from Bosaso and what has been reported is purely fabricated lies!

Ninka yaabka Darrod ku maqaan. Why don't you write about the crimes that the moryaan have been committing for the last 10 plus years. What don't u talk about the video-taped rapes, sodomy and looting that Hawiye brag about as their moment of liberation! TAAS MAXAA OO LA YAABII WEEYSA.
For your information I have seen more hawiye homesexuals than any other clan, start from Mogadishu all the way to Marka = hawiye maqnuuds

GALOOL, FINALLY OUT OF THE CLOSET. THE BIGGEST AND OLDEST MORYAAN ON THE NET. TRYING TO SUGARCOAT YOUR PREJUDICE AGAINST DAROOD AND THE MAJEERTEEN. AT LEAST BE MAN ENOUGH LIKE THE OTHERS WHEN IT COMES TO EXPRESSING YOUR REAL FEELINGS.

AMAZING THE ATTENTION PUNTLAND IS GETTING!
HAWIYE, I ORDER YOU TO BE OBSESSED WITH US; TALK ABOUT US, DISCUSS US, INSULT US, WE STILL CONSIDER YOU TO BE INFERIOR TO US. HAWIYE-MORYAN IS THE SCUM OF THE EARTH.

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Amina

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 08:03 pm
Professor liar, you are hawiye. all your writings at "rayiga dadweynaha' show it. Moryaan fooqal maoryaan.

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Sagittarius

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 08:22 pm
Reading all these different messages, I no longer know what the topic was all about! Also, I happen to notice some somalis are just eager to send someone to the guillotine! Consider if that someone you want so badly to send to their death is in fact YOU, wouldn't you want at least to get a lesser punishment for a mistake of a lifetime.


As for the matter of Somali lesbians sentenced to death, I earnestly don't believe they should deserve a capital punishment for their unscrupulous act, the fact they had abnormal sexual behaviour doesn't mean they should die because of it. Again, each and every society has its own cultural distinction and legal entity, but I wonder what is the basis for this capital punishment. When capital punishment is carried out on murderers, it's just a deterant precedant to avoid the extinction of the human race in its own hands, and still this itself is a very controversial issue, as for "eye for an eye" never resolved to stop homicide at its roots.

Let me correct some misperceptions, capital punishment is usualy executed on certain cases that transgress beyond one's self and cause harm on others such as; killing someone else or high treason in the case of compromising a whole society's integrity as is the case of espionage. Therefore, all the aforementioned views haven't given the necessary argument as to why these two ladies should face the death penalty!

Matter of fact some may base their arguments in Islamic Sharia, while unknowingly they forget that Sharia is a set of laws devised by human beings like us and seemingly referenced from holy sources, unlike the Holly book which is divine, and you'll never find anywhere in its content an indication to send someone to their death by being involved in lesbianism act (homosexuality). The only reference the Sharia legislators based their argument of stoning homosexuals was a historical narrative in the Holly Book that an ancient prehistoric tribe who engaged in similar acts were likewise punished by God. Therefore, Sharia laws like any other law can be faulty in its application at times, and needs to be revised to reflect contemporary standards such as imprisoning for minor self destructive behaviours. Moreover, in the old days there were no prison wards to contain culprits, but the only available mechanism to deter theft and other unappropriate behaviours was to cut hands or harsher punishments. However, today to carry out such horrendous punishments there need to be certain conditions available, and in the absence of these conditions, it's unjust to apply these harsh punishment laws.

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POLICEMAN

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 09:02 pm
I THING YOU GUYS ARE WRONG, I THING YOU PPL ARE LOST, LISTEN YOUR LIFES. I HOPE YOU FEEL ASHAMED,WHEN WILL U CHANGED,WHY CAN'T WE ACT LIKE CIVILS.
DON'T FOOL BE COOL!

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Honesita

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 10:28 pm
Absame.......u r a disgrase to the ogadeen pple if u think that way u lax.......wajigaa la gub.,.!!

Hibo........macaanto i think u misunderstood me like that fool up there...........when i said why kill the bastards....i meant the real bastards......kids that r born when their parents r not married......u know what i mean......it aint really thier fault its the parents fault right.........as for the lesbians.......sistah its still not fair to kill them cuz diinta ilaahay ma dhihin hala dilo...so why loo dilaa.........right..!! And i am against a gov. that rules by islam when ever they FEEL like it..........its xaraam....i'm ur aunty anyway....lol...:O

U stupid pple r full of hate.....if u had any sense u would see what hate did to ur sorry selves......wake up.,.!!

adios

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Jeego

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 07:16 am
THE DUMP-Proffessor

You are you telling us Your Queer-Mother is more trust Worthy then all the people who are Judges,Leaders and respected elders who denied this fabricated story? I think the only Queer in Bossaso must Be Your Mother and Next time you talk to her make Sure Your Queer-Mother stops Molesting poor Mooryaans who are running away from the Mooryaanland?

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Anonymous

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 08:13 am
hahhahah! I knew the majority of my somali brethren were stupid but the degree always shocks me! you people are hilarious! you don't have an individual self-respect so everything you do must be collective, you must identify with something bigger than yourselves: the clan since you are nothing when you stand alone! there's one cure to this lack of self-esteem, take a day off and use this dusty part of your body called your brain and you might grasp some of the concepts i'm outlining here! my god, such sheep: baa baaa!
hitler would have had a field day with you people!

sincerely
futebol_babe(a girl never manipulated by somalian mentality)

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Fusukh la Jahaad

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 11:42 am
I don't know if this story is fabricated and I really don't care. What I care about is that this will have a have a chilling effect on all the liberal scum-suckers who are out there like Galool and Professor after they realize the ruthless way their kind will be dealt with in the new Somalia. Let this be a warning to all the homosexuals and deviants and half-breed mongrels that might think of returning to Somalia.

YOUR LOT WILL BE A SLOW, PAINFUL DEATH.


DELDELAAD AAN DACWA LAHAYN

I expect Puntland adminstration to make a statement saying that this story is a fabrication but any homo thinking of going to Somalia better make other plans. You are duly warned Professor and Galool.

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sheikh cabdisheelaweyne

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 12:27 pm
sagitarus or what ever your nickname is , i have a question for you . are you a mufti? i doubt it bro. i myself am not in a position to give a ruling of any kind,but i believe that the country has enough jurisprudence scholars that are well qualified to make a judgment on the case , if it infact exists. your argument is leaning to the left, and this overshadows your brightness. by taking such a stand ,you are rolling a welcome mat to the fagots and lesbians. forgive me if came on too hard on you. peace n love

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Anonymous

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 01:12 pm
Nothing wrong with love between two women.It is beautiful.Every touch is a masterpiece.For men it something else.There is a bodily harm,them stick that big thing at each other is harmfull.For lesbians,it is touch and kiss and lick.you cannot get it.I am sorry for the two sisters.I hope they are ok.Long live lesbians.

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Sagittarius

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 01:27 pm
Sheik,

I hope I didn't piss you off, as I was not intending to offend anybody, but solely expressing my view!

Look, I would have certainly questioned those scholars that you mentioned, but not given that chance, I was equally questioning someone like you, who may feel that they are doing the right thing and cheering them up! Besides, I really don't condone the two ladies' act in that very conservative society, but the severity of the punishment and jubilance demonstrated over it in these forumss is of major concern to me. While, common religious sentiments among Somalis lead them to disregard any fallacies inherent in the judgement call of these religious scholars, which is quite incomprehensible, but again we see if someone indulges in adultery which is equally punishable by harsher punishment, is never carried out on anyone, at least to my knowledge! Or maybe we're arguing that there are no adultery commited in where the ladies are to be executed!

The sentencing for adultery is usualy discretionary by nature, and thus normally very hard to carry out according to Sharia. Therefore, why all in a sudden the act of lesbianism between the two laddies is open to everybody's judgement, and not discretionary as that of adultery! Are we using double standards to judge one sin to another?

No offense taken, and your anger was appreiciated.

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YUSUF_QALOOS

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 01:34 pm
sad !! again sad....let's not insult each other. if these lesbians are executed it will be a warning to the freaks who wanna go back. don't bring your filthy unnatural behavior to somalia.
about the clan bashing....? am not majeerteen nor hawiye...but i would like to see the two getting togather. i would also like to see the majeerteens doing some soul searching. they happen to be always on the spotlight and all the negativity i hear is really discouraging. i happen to know some majeerteen girls who are actually not good examples and doing some horrible things that is unislamic and immoral.
majeerteen people you have to start correcting your behaviours. the majeerteen family should be rebuilt and re-examined. you seem you loosing a lot of your kids to the infidels particulary most of your girls are quite easy to adopt to western culture. the other thing, hawiye please quit bringing all this shameful things to the forums. it's saddening. i also warn you hawiyas to stop bashing daaroods in general. that is not really constructive and it's not helping restore to our land. hawiye also stop this boastful and victorious mentality. you guys used to be more accomodating and open before. but since the civil war you are all unforgiving and you have become to be more bashful and self obsessed.
i beleive that we can all get along. so please let's come togather as people and let's all be loving people. let's tolerate each other and let's think about the future of our people. we are losing a lot of somalis. i heard there are more than 200 young somali teenagers being taught in one christian school board somewhere in USA. i have seen somali kids being adopted and fostered by infidels. i have also seen one or two somali homosexuals who are actively promoting and advocating this sick thing. (one of them is well know majeerteen guy in BOSTON) that is also sad but it's fact. so please let's start the healing process and bring back our people to the islamic circle

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SOMAL

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 01:50 pm
WAR KA SOO BAXAY GUDDIGA DHAQAN ILAALINTA IYO DHOWRIDA EDEBTA SOOMALIEED EE FADHIGOODU YAHAY MAGAALADA MUQDISHU SHIR EEY XALAY YEESHEEN WAXEEY KU SOO SAAREEN BAAQ KU SOCDA DHAMAAN DADWEYNAHA SOOMALIYEED MEEL KASTA OOY JOOGAAN.

1. WAXAA LOOGU BAAQAYAA DHAMAAN WAALIDIINTA, WAAYEELKA IYO WAX GARADKA SOOMALIYEED IN LA BILAABO BARNAAMIJ CUSUB OO LAGU BARAYO CARUURTA SOOMALIYEED SHARAFTA IYO KARAAMADA DIINTA ISLAAMKA.
2. IN QOF KASTO OO SOOMALIYEED LAGU WACYI GELIYO QATARTA IYO HALSITA DHAQAMMADA FOOSHA XUN EE KA IMAANAY WADAMADA SHISHEEYAHA AH.
3. IN SI FIICAN LOOGU DIYAAR GAROOBO ISHANA LOOGU HAAYO DADKA SOOMALIYEED EE KA SOO LABANAAYA WADAMADA QURBAHA KHAASATAN KUWA YURUB IYO AQOOYIGA AMEERIKA.
4. IN DADWEYNAHA SOOMALIYEED EE QAXOOTIGA U GALAY WADAMADA SHISHEEYAHA LA GAARSIIYO DIINTA, LAGUNA SOO CELIYO JIDKII TOOSNAA EE ISLAAMKA.
5. IN QOF KASTA OO SOOMALIYEED EE KA LEEXDAY DIINTA ISLAAMKA AAN LOO OGOLAAN KU SOO NOQOSHADA WADANKA HOOYO.
6. IN DIINTA ISLAAMKA IYO AHANSHAHA SOOMALI LA KALA SAARIN

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Anonymous

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 02:04 pm
Somal:

I agree with you 100%. I think we should quarantine all people coming back from abroad( including me) and monitor them for diseases both mental and pysical and also for any moral deviance and turpitude

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Ali Ghedi

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 05:01 pm
Hello To all Somali's we need all of us to be very clear to them , those who are coming here and bluffing their sick mentality hatred . we rejected and repudiate the poison you are circling into Somali Communities , enough is enough we have enough destruction on our hands . this case if its true , its a case of two individuals who made bad choice , and they will not be accepted morally and environmental to our communities , but your case is worst ,you spreadin hatred insulting whole community for individuals act , you shame yourself . we are not paying . I don't think the community you think you belong will agree or share or even wants your representation for such narrow minded individuals , what you need guys is to open your hearts in a positive way deal the reality and the facts , all Somali's are related each other and need each other regardless the difficult time we are going through ... I pray to Allah every Single day to unite us to heal all our wounds and put peace and tranquility our beloved country Somalia ..AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaammmmiiiiin

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Ali Ghedi

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 05:09 pm
Hello To all Somali's we need all of us to be very clear to them , those who are coming here and bluffing their sick mentality hatred . we rejected and repudiate the poison you are circling into Somali Communities , enough is enough we have enough destruction on our hands . this case if its true , its a case of two individuals who made bad choice , and they will not be accepted morally and environmental to our communities , but your case is worst ,you spreadin hatred insulting whole community for individuals act , you shame yourself . we are not paying . I don't think the community you think you belong will agree or share or even wants your representation for such narrow minded individuals , what you need guys is to open your hearts in a positive way deal the reality and the facts , all Somali's are related each other and need each other regardless the difficult time we are going through ... I pray to Allah every Single day to unite us to heal all our wounds and put peace and tranquility our beloved country Somalia ..AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaammmmiiiiin ...thank you all

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sheikh cabdi sheelaweyne

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 06:09 pm
bro sagitarus i think you are a brilliant man. i am facinated with your sound reasoning. i agree with you with the fact that we are absolutly hypocritical in dealing with this situation, while murder and rape were the method of choice in the interclan feuds, in the past ten years , we are suddenly , changing our morals on an issue that is minor compared to what had happened in our beloved homeland.one thing is for sure though we need to recognize the value of the human life. one thing though is that we have to accept the judgment of a majority of sharia scholars in the case . i believe what ever punishment then these scholars see fit should be carried away , to send a message. equally we need to address other issues as well. bro, forgive me if i was a bit reactive. this is an interesting story ,but i hope it's an awekening for our lost souls. peace bro and much love

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Anonymous

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 06:13 pm
qof walboow oo dibbada ku nool ogoow inaad halis ku jirtiin. dhaqan xumo iyo diin la'aan ayaa idin haleeshay ee bal is ilaaliya oo xoog saara inaad diinta ku dheganaataan.

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Dh

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 10:48 pm
So everyone is having fun bashing MJ. all I can say is "SAKIIN LIQ"..idiots.

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Darka

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 03:58 am
Allah!
Allah!
Allah!

You know something- these moryaans will stop at nothing!
They trashed their city- and now they are looking with envy at PUNTLAND! Make up stories. Insult all you want....but you know the truth.
YOU CAN NEVER MEASURE UP.
ONCE A H.A.W.I.Y.E
ALWAYS a HAAWEEY....

War ileen ibtilo- Go fix up your towns- get your act together- You continue to butcher each other like animals with axes. What about when your "government" (dare I use the word so lightly)- sentenced your young men to life without limbs- cutting off a leg and an arm?
For what crime? Being born of the wrong tribe?
As for those posting this nonsense re: law -
Pple- Puntland will do what Puntlanders want.
Buzz off!

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EEDAN

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 07:57 am
majeerteen means in maay language..ma sheexaan , ma xishoodaan. walaahi that is the real meaning of majeerteen in af eelaay!!!

and that is the real truth majeerteen people you are like tumor to the whole somalii body! you are making us sick and killing us slowly!!! as somalis we are so kind to you! i knew others would have cut you off but luckily you have somalis who see you as their own people!

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Anonymous

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 09:24 am
Ali Gheedi,

Bro aameen. Keep the good work.

Hibo,
Lol....
too much blood. I think I am the same. I do not have Hawiye but they are my very close relatives and brother-in-laws. Good friends of mine are too Hawiye. All we need is undestanding our religion proberly. It is now that I am becoming to recognose them as Hawiye. We used to speak in english.

Honasita,
what is up sis?? I read ninxoon insulted you. keep away from them.
Aro

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Anonymous

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 09:36 am
THe Hutu Hawiye Made all up this Story Dont u know guys ! Hawaiye Hutu Hutu Hutu !!!! This is not Gonna Work every1 knows that is Fake Story! Think about something else Like !!!! Like Aydiid married Atto !! No hardFeelings :):):):):):)

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IRONMAN

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 10:29 am
NOW THAT U GROWN/U MOTHAFUCKAZ CAN'T BE WRONG/BETTER BITE YOUR TONGUE/ AND LISTEN MY SONG/NOW WILL U KNOW/
THAT BOTH DAROOD AND HAWIYE ARE NOTHING BUT A DUST/GET TO KNOW IN YOUR CHEST/THAT IF U BELIEVE IN TRIBE/IN HELL WILL U REST/.

CUMAGA!

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Hibo

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 10:34 am
HOnestia: lol... auntie... lol.. yeah auntie.. I do agree.. but when I said.. kill the bastards ... I didn't mean.. illegimate kids... I meant the homos...that is the misunderstandings originated from...sorry..auntie..:O

last Anon: Lol... that is why I don't belong to any qabiil...for that matter.. I am pure Somali...:O...lol

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JASMINE

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 05:03 pm
for ironman i wonder what u mean CUMAGA!?

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Somali-YAnkee

Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 03:22 am
Hibo....i guess we are both the reflection of somalia....i think i might substitute Abaa with Abti lol.....peace
blackbeauty..Ayeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyo wazzuplol

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Xena

Thursday, March 01, 2001 - 07:52 pm
Sirrus-I agree with you!
NO Qabil is mighty! Allah is mighty!end of story.
Somalians are so backwards it's sick. Get over it already.We all look alike, we're all from the same place, just get along!
when will we let this stupidness drop? We have wasted 10 years already.We(if my memory serves me)were the only country to enter the millennium without a government.
Any somalian with an ounce of love for his/her contry would not support this whole seperatism, let alone promote hatred against his/her fellow somalian.
In the Holy Quran god says that he has made us tribes and clans so that we may know/recognize one another-The best of us in his eyes are those who are pius.
I am ashamed to belong to a nation that is traped in the stone age.We are the barbarians of the 21st century.
If this does not apply to you: There is good in all people-even somalians.

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jamaaal4

Thursday, March 01, 2001 - 11:24 pm
honesta loool @ "something goes into something..

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