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"Happiness is not a goal, it's a by-product" by Eleanor Roosevelt

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (Before Mar. 13, 2001): "Happiness is not a goal, it's a by-product" by Eleanor Roosevelt
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Sagittarius

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 09:37 pm
This was the most inspiring quote I've ever came across. Sometimes our mission in life is confounded as we try to achieve personal happiness along with other nobler goals that we should set for our selves so as to save humanity or further its progress!

Do you think the Gandhis, Einsteins, Keyneses, Mandelas, and many more were solely achieving personal hapiness or that of greater humanity! If that's so, then why are we so much worried about being happy before and foremost.

By-product is an economical term meaning; an additional result that's obtained when making something else. For example; In the process of refining oil there are other chemical by-products called petro-chemicals which are of lesser value than oil itself that result from the refining process,and they usually fetch some market value. So the question is, would you prefer oil or its by-product of petrochemicals?

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Basra

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 04:06 am
Sagittariuslol


Eleanor Roosevelt was a wise W-O-M-A-N,I am shocked you quoted her.
Here is another quote of hers."No one can make you feel inferior without your consent".


Also an additional quote....


"If what you are is what you want to be,thats Happiness".

by anonymous

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Madam

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 10:28 am
Saggitarius,happiness is not a goal, it is a rigoro that requires target practice me thinks :)

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sheikh cabdi sheelaweyne

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 11:26 am
magnificent people. love,and happiness are like butterflies, if you chase them ,they will run away from you ,but if you let them ,then they will sit right on your palm. the world is real, and the idea of "to pursue happiness" could lead to chaos, cuz happiness is a relative thing. even though i can't articulate my point as good as i wanted to , but i hope you get the meaning. peace and love

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Sagittarius

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 02:03 pm
Basra,

Your two quotes are very well appreciated, but be shocked no more, E.Roosevelt and her husband are my idols, they stand for quite a lot of my ideals too!

Madam,

I didn't quite get your intention! More explanation would really help.

Sheik,
Here, we meet again! You really made a lot of sense in the butterfly example. However, I would love to know how you explain this. Sometimes, butterflies are such gorgeous things, and we're much attracted to them for touching or petting them, but usually fail that since they're bristle and lose beauty in captivity, is that the same with happiness?

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Sagittarius

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 02:19 pm
i am a fool, gaalbaan waxaan ka dhigtey idol, iga raali ahaada aqayaarta.
I never meant no harm to disrespect our prophet, he is my idol.

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Sagittarius

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 02:21 pm
Even though i am christian

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Sagittarius

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 02:22 pm
and i love anal sex, really.

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sheikh cabdisheelaweyne

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 04:08 pm
if you are christian , then i , sheikh advice you to please go to the christian sites. why are you participating in the somali site. i can't believe it's you sagi, i think it's someone else pretending that it's you

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SUMMERTIME

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 04:13 pm
IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THAT THE LAST 3 POSTINGS WERE MADE BY SOMEONE ELSE.

THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING TOPIC, LIFE IS FULL OF UPS AND DOWNS AND THE MORE U APPRECIATE THAT THESE TWO ELEMENTS ARE PART OF THE LIFE THE MORE HAPPY U ARE. WHAT I AM SAYING ENJOY THE HAPPY MOMENTS AND WHEN DOWN THINK ABOUT TOMORROW AS THE SUN WILL SHINE AGAIN.

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Sagittarius

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 04:45 pm
The idiot who's posting under my name, get a life. And if you need some psychoanalysis for your abnormal behaviour just knock my door!

At least you could have posted your disgrace at one time instead of three postings and wasting someone's time! Just a freak would do that.

Thanx, Summertime

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devils_love

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 10:25 pm
Sagi :

Good topic. I am really bewildered and puzzled by what true happiness mean. I have always thought that we (humans) entertain the notion that dictates; For one to be happy all one's dreams and goals must be realised first. But isn't it the fact that we (humans) are also emotional being thus we could be happy in one minute and mad in the other or if I may ask is there an eternal happiness?. Well I don't know but am sure as hell I would want to be one.


devils_love

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Anonymous

Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 02:29 am
i've been looking for happiness for all my short life. i've been through allot of up and downs but the latter is greater.
where do i start and how can i learn to just be me?what is me or who?

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WonderS

Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 06:23 am
Guys

This a great Topic.......how can one to be complately happy? well undersand Islam and Act according to it......4 your own sake.....atleast that is where I got my inner peace from!

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Hibo

Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 08:14 am
I believe Happiness is what u want it to be.......by that I mean.. u can choose happiness through ur own terms... I am very happy person...who is very much well content with her lot in life... I don't let anything take that away from me....so Personally... happiness is my way of living... My advice..never let life dictate u... how u want it to live!!

E.Roosevelt was a very Wise woman, sagi...great topic bro...

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Sagittarius

Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 07:19 pm
First, all my answers are not based on my own personal experiences, I am not happy or unhappy, just struggling.


Summertime,

Very interesting indeed! However, in essence the quote means that we should care less if we're down (unhappy) for achieving something else worthy, because achieving that worthy unhappiness is what our goals in life should be.

Devils love,

To realise all one's dreams and goals, in reality means sacrificing a lot in life such as; going to school you forego a lot of other activities that would at least contribute to your personal cravings, and I doubt anybody would ever claim that going to school and all the stress one undergoes are equally considered happy moments. Therefore, there's no true happiness in fulfilling our dreams and goals but a true sacrifice to higher aims, which essentially are not meant to bring us happiness but what's rather referred to in phsychology as self actualization. And when we reach the self actualization stage we normally are in a position to set a role model for others. Thus, in this sense, if we succeeded in being a role model for others, we've in a way achieved a purposeful lifetime goal. Therefore in the quote of Eleanor Roosevelt, these other things that we achieve in life are the goal rather than the satisfaction we gain from self actualization.

Hibo,

I hate to disagree, but I have to! Happiness is not what one wants it to be, and if that was the case, I believe the whole world would have been happy, which goes without saying, who would want to choose unhappiness if they could avoid it! Perhaps, you're trying to say that happiness is self contentment, where one acknowledges that absolute happiness is a vain notion, thus one has to content with what one has, or in other words, we're just satisfied with the status-quo in comparison with what others have, which could sometimes be worse! Finally, what I find more interesting is the last statement, that life should't instead dictate to us. But, in reality, we most of the time are under the dictatorship and oppression of life's unfair requirements, and while we're dealing with these requirements, there's no happiness. Therefore, we shouldn't be worried about happiness at all and accept it as a by product if it comes along.

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Basra

Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 07:27 am
Hibolool wow for a moment i thought you were motivational speaker.lol

Sagitarrius,

Happiness,in my own difinition would be the ability to feel something.Good or Bad,joyful or sadful.Feel something thats the key.So if you have a challenge in life,like your mission to search for happiness,thats a challege.Thats Happiness! lool

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